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Programming machines to make the trip and then seeding with human life seems to be the best answer to distance.
by nekoashide 4y ago
Programming machines to make the trip and then seeding with human life seems to be the best answer to distance.
- TheBigSalad 4y agoFor what reason would we want people physically close to this thing?
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- dsQTbR7Y5mRHnZv 4y agothey've probably already done that to us here on earth
- scohesc 4y agoThat would be so interesting - could be many a sci-fi stories created on that premise. Some mechanical robot/starship storing frozen embryos for 100 years to be released on a far-away exoplanet, the starship taking care of them while they grow up and learn how to live on this new world - the beginnings of a new civilization - a technological adam and eve of sorts.
- 1ko 4y agoRaised by wolves
- z3c0 4y agoAnd Interstellar
- lhuser123 4y agoI am Mother https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Mother https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Mother
- killyourcar 4y agoAnd 2001 Nights.
- Larrikin 4y agoBut hopefully the story would actually be interesting
- prox 4y agoWe can’t do lightspeed with the best tech available, so it’s more like 300-400 years probably.
- ryandrake 4y agoDon't have to go light speed, thanks to relativity. If we could achieve and sustain even 1G acceleration, live humans could make the 100LY trip in approx. 9 years (spaceship time). You could leave, visit the planet, and come back only 18 years older and tell the next-next-next-next-next generation all about it. EDIT: To be fair, 1G over 100LY will result in a maximum speed around 0.9998c so I guess you would have to approximately approach light speed for this trip.
- hoosieree 4y agoMo' acceleration, mo' trolley problems. Go on vacation; come back; everyone's dead.
- bergenty 4y agoAlright, alright, alright.
- euroderf 4y agoBetter stock up on antimatter.
- Melatonic 4y agoIs this really how time dilation works?
- 7thaccount 4y agoSpeed through space + Time adds up to the speed of light or something like that (not a physicist). So as you get closer and closer to the speed of light, your motion through time (from your point of view) slows tremendously. So a few years to you, could be centuries to outside observers. Source: some Kip Thorne lectures I saw like 15 years ago.
- elliekelly 4y agoYou might enjoy the short story collection Children of the New World[1] by Alexander Weinstein. One of the stories, Saying Goodbye to Yang, was recently made into a movie called After Yang[2] staring Colin Farrell. The movie has a super-catchy opening credit sequence.[3] [1]https://app.thestorygraph.com/books/31cd88d8-d8d3-4414-b38c-d4d76dc4f7f9 https://app.thestorygraph.com/books/31cd88d8-d8d3-4414-b38c-... [2]https://boxd.it/lx5a https://boxd.it/lx5a [3]https://twitter.com/A24/status/1499114323314151425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499114323314151425%7Ctwgr%5E964b404722b3d92d8c335ce0160f6079b9122cc6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdecider.com%2F2022%2F03%2F07%2Fafter-yang-opening-credits-dance-scene%2F https://twitter.com/A24/status/1499114323314151425?ref_src=t...
- blywi 4y agoThe best exploration of this theme that I have read, was an East German SF novel from the former GDR. Unfortunately, as far as I know, it has never been translated into English. Here is a very short synopsis on the authors website in English: https://steinmuller.de/en/sf-literatur/science-fiction-buecher/andymon https://steinmuller.de/en/sf-literatur/science-fiction-buech...
- OkayPhysicist 4y agoI feel like the reverse situation kinda writes itself as a sci-fi horror short story: You've got people living their every day lives, when a probe from space lands and starts producing aliens. At first it's treated as a strange curiosity, but with time the aliens begin to make inroads conquering the planet. Ending twist: the aliens are humans, and the "people" were aliens!
- jra_samba 4y ago"And All The Stars, A Stage", by James Blish.
- throw-ru-938 4y agoTangentially related: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3936 https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3936.
- boxed 4y agohttp://localroger.com/k5host/pitv.html http://localroger.com/k5host/pitv.html is my favorite take on this
- bergenty 4y agoWe’ll never get governments to approve and fund this. Elon/Bill if you’re reading this you have to do this going rogue. Make it happen. Send human life out to a hundred different planets!
- kyriakos 4y agoOr possibly long hibernation could allow adults to travel too.
- metalliqaz 4y agoI have thought about this a lot. I have said for a long time that human space exploration doesn't make any sense to me. Space is so hostile to our life in general it seems that only purpose-built machines make any sense for the job. But of course for the preservation of our species, we would want to be able to send the "seeds" of our ecosystem to other places. But then, if we have progressed to that level of technology, where we can send cells or even just DNA with the machines to be cultivated far away in the distant future... would we even bother? Would we even consider ourselves distinct from the machines by then? Honestly I'm not sure. It could very well be that we consider our creations to be our "children", so to speak. Destined to inherit the universe as we pass gradually into the dust from from which we came. It seems inevitable if we eventually crack AGI or artificial consciousness.
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- koheripbal 4y agoI think the AI will find little reason to take us with them to the stars.
- semi-extrinsic 4y agoI don't understand people who say things like this. If we invented AGI tomorrow, how would it achieve domination over us humans? It is like Voltaire, Rousseau, Locke, Milton, Hobbes, Rawls never even existed and we don't have any sort of coherent understanding of political philosophy and how power is gained and enacted at the consent of the governed. I also find that discussions of interstellar travel tend to conveniently ignore the fact that a society that develops to the point where this is feasible, must necessarily also have developed to the point of a fully post-growth economy, which leads to fundamental questions of why that society (or parts of it) would seek to undertake interstellar travel at all. It's a boring answer, sure, but many facts of life are quite boring.
- cityofdelusion 4y ago
- cstever 4y agoI have enjoyed reading "The Songs of Distant Earth" by Arthur C. Clarke which talks about seed ships and the culture rise from that. It's an interesting read.
- koheripbal 4y agoThe seeds of humanity won't be humanity at all, but the AI.
- skrebbel 4y agoI’m imagining a spaceship landing at a deserted planet millions of years in the future and then just sitting there, generating pictures of cities in the sky and Mona Lisa on a surfboard.
- bpodgursky 4y agoKind of a fun hybrid where AI is clearly dominant in an established solar system, but it ends up being impossible to miniaturize the enormous supply chain necessary to fabricate microprocessors, so to colonize a new solar system it actually ends up being necessary to send self-replicating carbon-based humans who will then bootstrap the industrial supply chain necessary for AGI. (repeat ad infinitum for the rest of the galaxy, humans live only on the frontier)
- phh 4y agoWho came first? The AGI or the human?
- ianmcgowan 4y agoI'd buy that book!
- antifa 4y agoI think we'll figure out how to give your brain access to something like an AMD Ryzen long before we figure how to make a processor into an AI or make one that's concious.
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- koheripbal 4y agoIt is a bit of hubris for us to think that we are the ones to travel the stars and not the AI we create. The "robots" will have little incentive to seed humans when they get there.
- whatshisface 4y agoFortunately my blender doesn't need an incentive to grind fruit, only a hundred and twenty volts.
- bumby 4y agoAh, but what makes you confident humans (or any other animal) isn't likewise acting deterministically with just a veiled illusion of free-will and incentive?
- freedomben 4y agoYour question sounds like a troll, but it's actually a fascinating one. Reminds me so much of reading Descartes and essentially asking, "How do I know I'm not asleep and dreaming?"
- bumby 4y agoSorry if it came across that way, it definitely wasn't the intent! I think Sam Harris has some pretty fascinating and accessible discussions on the topic. There's also some interesting neuroscience work that seems to conflict with the common notions of free-will.
- freedomben 4y agooh yeah, totally agree Sam Harris on this is really awesome. I also love Robert Sapolsky's stuff. He's got several great videos on Youtube and his books are awesome as well.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
- bilsbie 4y agoWho would raise them?
- Centmo 4y agoThe robot from I Am Mother
- xwdv 4y agoI doubt this. We seem very hesitant to seed any world with any kind of life, even going through great lengths to ensure no errant bacteria get carried on a rover or something. If we were serious about spreading life, we could loaded up some rockets with basic organisms and throw them onto whatever worlds we want to seed, and then a few million years of evolution should take care of the rest.
- joedevon 4y agoTIL we can use seeds to create hu-mans. So cool!