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New Upcoming Telegram Premium Features
- unsupp0rted 4y agoVoice to Text transcription is worth it in itself. I hate when people send me voice messages: it's slightly less effort for them in exchange for much more annoyance and wasted time for me.
- baisq 4y agoThere are bots like @transcriber_bot that fix this.
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- mgbmtl 4y agoMy VoIP provider offers this (voip.ms) and I love it. I rarely listen to voicemail anymore (not that I get many, but say, some voicemail from kids school, or a client who didn't get the memo not to call me). And less errors because I'm always distracted when listening to voicemail (what a waste of time).
- henriquecm8 4y agoI wish whatsapp had this feature, some clients seem to only send audio messages, it's terrible when I want to get some information, then I have to check a few audio to find what I want, instead of searching for a keyword.
- cabirum 4y agoOr: an option to turn off support for audio messages. Disabling the send audio message button.
- slig 4y agoI believe everyone would disable (even those who insist in sending voice messages) and the feature would die.
- cabirum 4y agoIf a (mis)feature gets disabled by many users, it gets removed from the app. With time, apps accumulate features and get bloated. This actually is a mechanism to allow cleaning up features users so not want.
- slig 4y agoThat'd be great, but I'm sure there are some "metrics" that would not benefit from disabling the audio feature.
- machiaweliczny 4y agoIs this text-transcription working offline? Or it's sending everything to the servers?
- raybb 4y agoI remember for a brief moment when facebook messenger had this feature. It was awesome! IIRC they took it away because it turned out they had some humans listening to some of the messages to help with transcription and that got them some bad press.
- brnt 4y agoI apparently exist in a parallel universe: never received any. My partner does sometimes, it's really befuddling why anyone would do that. I suppose they can't dictate messages.
- giords 4y ago> Changes in WhatsApp’s privacy policy had directed users to use Telegram. This is quite ironic. Telegram managed to sell itself as a more private Whatsapp while in reality it is WAY worse in this area. Amazing and sad.
- juanani 4y ago
- brobinson 4y agoThis might kill that sentiment entirely if it turns out to be true and not a LARP: https://twitter.com/adyingnobody/status/1534021154674966529 https://twitter.com/adyingnobody/status/1534021154674966529
- RektBoy 4y agoLooks like fun times, nice.
- mgbmtl 4y agoBoth are equally bad, for different reasons. As a user, one might be more worried of having their identity tied to their Facebook account (and therefore advertising/tracking), than about their government spying on them. Having worked with people in totalitarian countries, it's surprising how much protesting people can do in plain sight. Until the regime decides they went too far, and it won't matter what proofs or chats they have on their devices, they'll just randomly arrest a bunch of people and release them after a week of horrible prison conditions. It's usually good enough to scare everyone. I use Signal 95% of the time, but I understand the appeal of Telegram. The UX is better, it allows pseudonyms, has huge communities in group chats. In a sense, it feels more private than Signal because of the pseudonyms. And for people in non-Western countries, well, Telegram might seem like the only option.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agosignal and telegram are a no brainer when it comes to totalitarian regimes. i live in Kashmir which has historically and continues to hunt down dissidents with agility. i cannot imagine being tied to my "mobile number" when the government has that data by law, tying a telegram/signal account to it is a gone case by that point. people who go with signal call it "better whatsapp without facebook tracking" but just like telegram, its Achilles heel is mobile number requirement. matrix has that from the start so its better in that respect. sure, matrix does not have "social graph" out of the box but in a "totalitarian regime", that is precisely what you want. besides, you can set up your own matrix server, something whatsapp/telegram/signal simply cannot do so its 100% more secure in that sense
- marban 4y agoJoin up to 1000 channels Not sure if I would want that life.
- theyeenzbeanz 4y agoThe moment they shove in tracker stuff, it’s goodbye telegram. Non premium users don’t seem to really get stumped by this at least, but still sad to see after them promising “free forever”.
- wejick 4y agoI think this kind of premium feature is to make sure that the basic services will be free forever. Many people arguably will prefer this approach that allows them to fund the services to go live further.
- dncornholio 4y agoI love Telegram. Their desktop client is just a million times better than WhatsApp. Everything business I do with Telegram. Everything personal goes through WhatsApp. Privacy, encryption, tracking etc. I don't care about. All the messengers suck in this perspective..
- rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago>Privacy, encryption, tracking etc. I don't care about. All the messengers suck in this perspective.. How is Signal not far better, here?
- enedil 4y agoYou need to give away your contacts in order to chat with anyone.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 4y agohttps://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007061452-Does-Signal-send-my-number-to-my-contacts- https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007061452-Do...
- ephbit 4y agoOnly just the word "Premium" in the title confirms my (totally unfounded because I didn't read much about nor try it) scepticism towards Telegram. I have an automatic aversion against the principle of two class services where the provider can over time tighten the screws and urge more people towards their premium offer. I'd prefer a service that just has one package an everyone pays the same. It's more transparent and cannot as easily be misused in obscure ways to game more profit out of its customers.
- brink 4y agoRunning servers and developing apps isn't free. I'd rather they sell their premium service to some users than sell data.
- ephbit 4y agoI should have made more clear that I'm absolutely pro paying for the service. So much so that it makes me suspicious that Telegram has been free so long. I don't use gmail, I paid for my IM app, ... and I sure try to avoid services that pay for themselves by selling my data. I just see the distinction between normal and premium as some lever they can push more in the future to generate more revenue. Let's just wait and see how it'll work out.
- kaba0 4y agoIt has been running completely free for users for years on end, and the only thing changing now is some minor convenience features in exchange for a subscription. For regular users basically everything will remain the same.
- pph 4y agoThe issue I see with that is that messengers (platforms) have a strong network effect - it becomes useful to you if you can reach your contacts there. Making it paid creates an inconvenience even if the price extremely low, if you don't even know if your friends are on there (= if it's useful to you) even more so. If your target group is worldwide you need regional pricing (and payment methods) to not exclude economically disadvantaged regions. And even then it might have selective effects towards people who can afford the service more easily. For a case study of a paid messenger see Threema, though it is probably difficult to measure the impact of its payment model on its success.
- aosmith 4y agoAnd still no spell check...
- tandr 4y agoWhat platform are you on, sorry? On android my keyboard takes care of it. On windows - spell check is also enabled in the input box area.
- pyrryh 4y agoCan be enabled on Linux as well
- stereoradonc 4y agoIts available on the web versions as well (in addition to the Android/iOS and the desktop apps).
- dgellow 4y ago> Unique Badge and Reactions, Special Stickers and more Yes, finally! That’s the good move to make the company sustainable. Let me pay for esthetic and goodies!
- vezycash 4y agoI simply want to appear offline permanently. And my 'last seen' to be whatever I set it to. Gimme these two and I'll pay $1 per year.
- Aloha 4y agoGood! I'd be happy to pay a small amount monthly for the service, its made my life as a furry and event planner much less complex, the ability to be able to quickly spin up a group chat with interested parties makes planning all manner of things easier.
- NackerHughes 4y agoWhat advantages does Telegram offer over other chat services that provide the ability to quickly spin up a group chat (e.g. discord, facebook messenger, whatsapp (I think), twitter, i.e. pretty much every chat service that people use these days)? I use Telegram among others but see its feature set as pretty much identical to all others. Just yet another chat app I have to lug around because of the 1 or 2 people who use it exclusively.
- enedil 4y agoThere are quite a few: - free large file upload (max 2GB), - native (non-electron) app for all the desktop platforms, - custom stickers (and not so limited as reactions on Discord, anybody can use any sticker set anywhere) - nice bot api (discord offers quite good experience as well) - works well when on shaggy mobile network. Doesn't send duplicate messages/etc (Messenger does) - doesn't censor messages. I'm free to send link to any website, upload any file type (again, looking at you, messenger) - you can quickly summarize different media shared in a given conversation, view all photos, movies, files, URLs, etc - search actually finds stuff (looking at you again, messenger) - you can be logged in on any number of devices (phew, WhatsApp) Probably there are more. I'm so happy that most of my friends switched.
- Aloha 4y ago* Low barrier to entry - Its easy to get people onboarded to, and it doesnt require another identity service (like facebook). * Native Client Support - all of their clients are OS native, and perform quite well compared to their peers. * Desktop and Mobile Parity - the desktop and mobile clients are equal quality, and functionality, which means it works just as well on my desktop as it does on my phone.
- egorfine 4y agoShut up and take my money: I will be subscribing instantly. (I want none of the features; supporting the software I love is a right thing to do)
- saos 4y agoIf Telegram was E2EE by default then they have a stream of new subscribers. I am happt pay for it service anyways. Has the best UX/UI. Whats just ended up copying some features...
- j16sdiz 4y agoIf Telegram have E2EE by default, it won't have fully synced history. This would be much less useful.
- leodriesch 4y agoCould you explain why you think that would be the case?
- anunay03 4y agoWell It isn't necessarily impossible, but Multi-Device encryption can get complicated. It all depends on how things are done, one way to approach e2e with multiple devices is, each device gets it's own key, and the sender encrypts the text to all the keys. (Or usually uses a symmetric session key, that is encrypted and sent). However what do you do when a new device joins in? Someone needs to rekey all the messages for the new device. Another way to approach this might be share the encryption keys across all devices, and make adding a new device basically sharing that key. This obviously comes with it's own set of disadvantages. And in the end, what do you do if someone loses all their devices? The encryption keys are just lost. I guess telegram just doesn't want to deal with that, which is kinda sad since it's a really good app and multi device encryption support would just sell me on the app.
- ojura 4y agoThe search function could not be done server side and would be trash. See Keybase. When I want to look up what I said to someone 5 years ago, fast search is priceless.
- fold3 4y agoI don't know how the ads model can be sustainable, so far I only get baiting ads about shitcoins. It's great that it is not targeted and text only, I hope it will remain that way but I feel like it won't. I hope they will manage to keep telegram great and not become the next tumblr/myspace whatever, because as a social media platform I actually quite enjoy it: Minimal censorship, seems to attract very diverse kind of people, It is fast and run on everything (like a decade old smartphone on sailfish OS)