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Nvidia LHR Lock Officially Cracked Bringing Full Crypto Mining Speeds
- galkk 4y agoCould it be a result of nvidia leak?
- skunkworker 4y agoThat's what the comments on /r/nvidia are thinking. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/uke679/latest_nicehash_release_implements_full_removal/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/uke679/latest_niceh... But apparently does not apply to the 3080 12gb and 3050 as they have a different LHR lock.
- 7speter 4y agoDoes the 3050 have a lhr lock or is it just useless at mining?
- bloodyplonker22 4y agoit's beyond useless at mining for the price.
- prox 4y agoWhat will this do for graphics cards prices? They were just coming down.
- arcticbull 4y agoNothing for now, crypto isn't exactly crushing it. Hopefully that continues and we can put this episode behind us.
- 7speter 4y agoPrices have stalled for about a month for the midrange at least… might be vendors watching where eth goes (it’s been stuck between 2700and 3k) and the Hong Kong shutdown…
- dncornholio 4y ago3070 Ti 50 euro's up since this morning.. it was 750, back to 800 now.
- 7speter 4y agoUgh... the 3070 has been mia in the US and the only thing you can get are those dreadful (imo) 3070ti's that use something like 50 more watts than the vanilla 3070 for only 7% more performance.
- pjerem 4y agoCould it create a gap between NVidia and AMD GPU prices ? It could be a win-win for both of the actors and for gamers (not for humanity’s future but at least we could have some games)
- Moru 4y agoCan forget about only fans cooling your rig though, if ambient temperatures will be around 50 C there won't be enough cold air to cool your GPU I'm affraid :-)
- imtringued 4y agoI would be more worried about how we are going to cool our nuclear reactors.
- porker 4y agoI'm hoping not much, because after two years relying on my aged iGPU I am so ready to get back to a beefier graphics card.
- MrBuddyCasino 4y agoThe next generation of graphics cards is around the corner, with a pretty substantial performance improvement expected. Only buy a card now if you really, really have to - everyone else should just wait until Ada etc. Intel's new lineup that is launching right now might also relieve some pressure from the market, at least in the low-end.
- torginus 4y agoIf history's any record, this will be another paper launch, meaning unless you are extremely good at snatching up the limited stock, you won't get your hands on a next-gen GPU for a good while.
- WithinReason 4y agoNvidia pre-booked large capacity from TSMC for this launch, and hopefully AMD did too.
- MrBuddyCasino 4y agoThis implies that Ampère was a paper launch, which it wasn't. Compared to the previous generation, they delivered more units. It all got snatched up by the crypto miners directly at the factory. Since crypto prices are falling and ETH moves to POS, the situation might reverse substantially. According to Jon Peddie Research, the combined number of desktop GPUs sold by AMD & NVidia: Q3/2019 ~10,5 M Q4/2019 ~11,8 M Q1/2020 ~9,5 M Q2/2020 ~10,1 M Q3/2020 11,5 M Q4/2020 11,0 M Q1/2021 11,8 M Q2/2021 11,47 M Q3/2021 12,72 M
- WithinReason 4y agoAMD doesn't have a limiter and they have been falling in tandem: https://www.3dcenter.org/dateien/abbildungen/AMD-nVidia-Retail-Price-Trend-2021-2022-v7.png https://www.3dcenter.org/dateien/abbildungen/AMD-nVidia-Reta... Correlation with ETH price (in yellow) was high previously but now it's low
- torginus 4y agoAfaik the best predictor for ETH hashrate is memory bandwidth. AMD's latest generation of GPUs actually employs a large on-die cache combined with slower memory compared to the 5000 series (and the NVIDIA 30 series), resulting in a naturally lower hashrate.
- pjerem 4y agoWhen you think about it : a company selling computing power deliberately restrain its product’s computing power just to avoid running out-of-stock because somehow people discovered they can sell some database entry created by wasting the most precious and vital resource we can gather in limited supply (energy) from sources that are changing our only planet to a cooking oven. What a time to be alive. I’m really amazed at how we as a species are so impressively intelligent but also so mindblowingly dumb at the same time. But I’m not surprised : if you look at our species history : we were and are always just fighting our own stupidity.
- DSingularity 4y agoWhat a cynical take.
- gjvc 4y agoAccurate, though.
- DSingularity 4y agoYeah.. unfortunately.
- xvector 4y agoCrypto miners are not even a drop in the ocean when it comes to the fucked-up things that humanity does. The average person causes far more harm and literally millions of times more pain and suffering through their dietary choices alone than crypto miners ever could [1]. And we don't even get a trustless financial system out of it. Crypto miners are just easy to hate because it's an excellent opportunity for people to point the finger at someone else without introspecting on the fact that they are no better. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_p...
- sascha_sl 4y agoAh yeah sure, people running warehouses full of GPUs and reviving local coal power plants for their energy supply are doing less harm than than someone eating too much beef. Unlike meat consumption, mining doesn't map neatly onto the entire population. It's a rich few that can even buy this much compute power. Bitcoin is 137 TW/h/yr Etherium is 112 TW/h/yr (thanks for pointing out me messing up units) Those are both mid sized countries by now.
- bob1029 4y agoI've given up all hope that more GPU is the answer to more fun. These days I spend my free time at a cabin in the woods, hand crafting a software rasterizer in protest of all of this bullshit. Developers still don't realize how powerful that CPU is. Especially now in 2022... We were playing quake on a single thread with clock rates measured in hundreds of megahertz. How much faster is an AMD Rome system compared to the best you could buy in the mid 90s? Just do some linear extrapolation with those figures.
- tetris11 4y agoI still marvel at how powerful pure JavaScript in the browser is. I'm not even talking EMCAScript with its classes and other syntactic junk, just pure JS free of any bells and whistles or bloated frameworks or opinionated design strategies. Its ability to manipulate the DOM, including SVGs, in real-time, fully-introspectable, just blows my mind away.
- bob1029 4y agoYou can also get a canvas to draw like butter these days. Gaming monitor refresh rate territory. With proper use of requestAnimationFrame I see 144 fps on my PC.
- jhanschoo 4y ago> We were playing quake on a single thread with clock rates measured in hundreds of megahertz. How much faster is an AMD Rome system compared to the best you could buy in the mid 90s? Modern games are also have much more detail in their textures, many more particles, and much higher screen resolution; not to mention physics and visual effects. No. of transistors may have risen exponentially, but aspects of games have increased exponentially and quadratically as well.
- bob1029 4y agoAgreed - but again, fun certainly has not increased by these same rates. Let's try this a different way: Is it possible there is some gameplay concept that is so engaging that even technical caveats like a 640x480 resolution would not severely impact the enjoyment of most players? What is the actual limit of this stuff if you flip the equation around? How much janky bullshit can a substantial portion of your target market put up with for the sake of fun in 2022?
- thunkshift1 4y agoPerfectly timed news release.. just when their stock is taking a massive beating