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I followed a link from this to another article and Jesus Christ. > I’ve been nursing a serious prolapse injury from one shoot for Legal Porno. It was supposed

• ilaksh 5y ago
  If that second article is not fabricated then I believe the producers of that should be in jail. Forcing someone to do something that will injure them or they won't get paid anything, after lying about it. I'm sure the whole industry is horrible but this seems pretty clearcut and high profile.
• ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  >if you need a local anaesthetic, it somewhat implies that you're doing dangerous stuff. It explains why porn is mostly made in low income regions like Eastern Europe and South-East Asia. Lots of desperate people trying to get by who will get into dangerous activities trying to make ends meet. Although the economy is now much better than it was in the 90's, even today in my Eastern European college town, the university campuses are full of adverts for "modelling agencies" that are basically fronts for bating young women into the porn industry. Back in the 90's to the 00's, human trafficking here was rampant, with pimp gangs baiting young women from poor villages under the lie that they will work in hospitality in Western Europe to send money back home, but instead, taking their passports away, and sending them to forced prostitution in Western Europe, under punishments of beatings if they try to tell anyone or escape.
  • robinsoh 5y ago
    > It explains why porn is mostly made in low income regions like Eastern Europe and South-East Asia. Citation needed. Your claim doesn't match commonly reported data. --- The global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share of global internet pornography, Two thirds of all U.S porn sites are hosted in California with the country hosting a total of 4.2 million domains containing porn. ---
    • ClumsyPilot 5y ago
      "global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share " Where something is produced and where the money goes are two totally different questions
    • cute_boi 5y ago
      The porn he is mentioning are toxic porn, not the normal porn, so you can't compare it like this.
      • robinsoh 5y ago
        I don't see that conditional made in his claim. I'm asking for data to support his claim, if such data does not exist than it indicates the claim is unlikely to be valid. Would you like to clarify your meaning of "normal porn" and "toxic porn", and what data exists to support your claim?
        • StevePerkins 5y ago
          As with any social or morality based topic, people drift back and forth between wide and narrow scopes. People tend to use the most extreme and narrow scope to establish a point, and then casually shift to create the impression of that point applying to the wider scope. Most of this thread boils down to "partial-birth abortion as an argument against the RU486 abortion pill" level reasoning.
    • soneil 5y ago
      I think you're focussing on the wrong metric. This would be like saying that phones aren't made with slave labour because the companies are in california. There's a disconnect between where the models come from, and where the money goes.
• rbanffy 5y ago
  I think that when you need a local anaesthetic, it may no longer be sex, but other form of performance art. Also, when you need to state your porn is legal, I kind of think it may be the case it shouldn't really be.
  • transforming 5y ago
    > I think that when you need a local anaesthetic Many sexually active adults, even gubernatorial candidates and wealth businesspersons, enjoy "chemsex" - how is this any different? Perhaps we shouldn't pre-judge others and kink shame before we've walked a mile in their heels.
    • EdwardDiego 5y ago
      Did you read the link I posted? I don't think the women they were quoting were kink-shaming themselves.
    • AlecSchueler 5y ago
      They're not doing it because it's their kink, they're doing it because their employer has made them do it. Not every criticism of something in the sex industry has to be "kink shaming" and to reduce everything to that is harmful and detrimental to serious discourse.
  • belorn 5y ago
    If someone need to take pain medication in order to get money something is distinctly wrong.
    • andrewinardeer 5y ago
      Football and other professional sportspersons regularly take pain meds on game days.
      • wiseowise 5y ago
        Technically, their point still stands.
• agumonkey 5y ago
  As a kid I watched VHS, then CD-ROMs, then DVDs, then internet .. then I grew up and saw sex/people differently. It pains me that porn is so prevalent. I'm no religious by culture nor personal views, but to me it's somehow stomping on the sacred (in the sense of very important emotions/bonds). It pains me twice to see how barbaric it goes.
  • jdrc 5y ago
    just because you view it like that doesnt mean there arent people who are kinky/exhibitionists etc, and the 'barbarity' of it is kind of part of the appeal
    • agumonkey 5y ago
      you're right but i find it misplaced used to erotism
  • tomc1985 5y ago
    A lot of people don't (and in my opinion, shouldn't) conflate such a primal activity as "sacred". Is it really a good idea to put sex up on a pedestal? How much strife and suffering have we as a species created for ourselves because of our attitudes and jealousies about sex? Do you know how many people out there resent the amount of control that society tries to maintain over sexual expression and activity?
    • slibhb 5y ago
      > A lot of people don't (and in my opinion, shouldn't) conflate such a primal activity as "sacred". Is it really a good idea to put sex up on a pedestal? It's one of the best ideas people have ever come up with. > Do you know how many people out there resent the amount of control that society tries to maintain over sexual expression and activity? A small but increasingly loud minority. The vast majority of people benefit from social strictures and taboos surrounding sex.
      • tomc1985 5y ago
• wiseowise 5y ago
  > Then the bits about applying lidocaine to anuses to help them get through the shoot... I'm gobsmacked... if you need a local anaesthetic, it somewhat implies that you're doing dangerous stuff. In this case it's no different from any professional sport.
  • vixen99 5y ago
    Is it different? Maybe on this topic we could hear the opinion of someone who knows what they're talking about namely a proctologist.
  • endtime 5y ago
    Yes, my favorite part of a golf tournament is the anal lidocaine application.
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• rasz 5y ago
  Anal, gangbangs, humiliation and other hardcore scenes pay extra. Significantly better money than normal scenes. Take Lana Rhoades for example, an "outspoken critic of the adult industry" with numerous anal gangbangs and humiliation scenes under her belt: "One of the worst... honestly, I feel like I'm in denial sometimes and I can't accept some of the things that I've done. "There was one thing that, ya know, I tried talking to a therapist about before something that I had to do for a scene that was really rough for me. "Basically, this guy had a bowl and he, like, gagged me until I threw up into it and he, like, pissed in the bowl, and during the scene he asked me to drink it, and I didn't know how to say no. "It was one of the most disgusting, foul scenes." It was so traumatic .... Lena decided to go back two more times to do more humiliation scenes with same producer. $$$$
  • scandox 5y ago
    All that proves is that people who are messed up struggle to change their lives. The idea that someone is doing those things to make a fortune is daft. Porn is a machine that turns drug addicts into money. It's objectively bad as far as I'm concerned.
    • rasz 5y ago
      Certainly not fortune, but fame, adoration, good living, future without actual work. Rich husband, influencer career, etc. Drug addicts dont last in porn.
      • johannes1234321 5y ago
        > Drug addicts dont last in porn. The producers know. And swap them out. As long there is somebody else, who can be abused by the same promises.
      • pennaMan 5y ago
        >future without actual work Did you read TFA that goes in explicit details of the amount of actual work involved in porn?
• TacticalCoder 5y ago
  > Then the bits about applying lidocaine to anuses to help them get through the shoot... I'm gobsmacked... Unrelated to TFA but Lidocaine gel works incredibly well on aphthae / canker sore / mouth ulcer. If anyone here is sometimes getting crazy because of one of these... (not a medical advice though).
• hef19898 5y ago
  That is maybe a tangent, I do think so this story deserves some context. A conservative, church backed organisatin (Edit: in Germany I have to add) promoting youth protection in the internet is currently pushing all kind of funny things against pron sites. Including limiting access, in a way that amounts to censoship. The adult film industry is here to stay. It is profiting, as is sex work in general, from desperation and weakness (by no means to tue extend that is being pushed so). That means sex workers, regardless of the details, should be protected. Accusations of assault, sexual abuse and rape should be taken serious. In short, make it legal and regulate it. Enforce the rules, protect the actors. If the abusive assholes forcing actors to produce extreme videos, should be of the internet. And that pressure is social and psychological. It builds up, I see parallels to abusive relationships.