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One Humanity – DOOM 2 Level

242 points by marcodiego 5y ago

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roywashere 5y ago
You might want to fix the title
- martyvis 5y ago
  Ukraine not Ukarine
mempko 5y ago
This is wonderful. I like that it's Red Cross and not for support of military aid.
- throwaway984393 5y ago
  Not to "start a whole thing" (too late) but can you elaborate on why you prefer Red Cross to military aid? I've not read many opinions on choosing one over the other.
  - tcmb 5y ago
    Red cross heals people, military kills people.
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - saiya-jin 5y ago
    Well, one just helps the civilians, the other helps with military superiority. Now the big question is, is using of weapons on aggressor something you are OK with or not? Many people are not, so its perfectly fine to help like that. It might not be directly used for killing, many barely 18 years old drafted Russian soldiers are vastly demoralized and surrendering. Having superiority helps to achieve that. That being said, I come from eastern Europe and whats happening is seen in eastern Europe as existential fight also for us down the line. Could be compared to how ie US felt during WWII with Hitler and axis. Hundreds/thousands of men are volunteering in each state to go fight in this war. These are not Ukrainians in any way, more like patriots for lack of better term. Personally, I've donated to the org directly in Kyiv which might use it for aid or for weapons, both are good with me. I would say I hope for peace, but Putin doesn't want it at all regardless of bloodshed, so let's not be naive and kick his ass instead.
- JetAlone 5y ago
  For once, the use of a red cross on the health pickup could be considered appropriate branding. It's almost redemptive. https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/video-game-red-cross-health-pack-emblem/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/video-game-red-cross-he...
xwdv 5y ago
Anybody beat it yet
- idbehold 5y ago
  Yes (not me): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqzq-GLiakY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqzq-GLiakY
- swivelmaster 5y ago
  Yup. It’s not that long of a level but it’s very well-paced and ammo and health are very judiciously rationed out.
cyberpunk 5y ago
Anyone else disappointed there's no.. ahem, 'boss' sprite? ;)
- ugh123 5y ago
  Agreed. I was expecting something a little more topical to whats going on, with the current cast of characters.
  - cyberpunk 5y ago
    Ach, it's a nice gesture. I'm guessing Romero has a bunch of these on his HDD and figured, hey, maybe it's a nice way to generate some donations. All for it. Bought one :}
    - drakythe 5y ago
      Romero released "Sigil" in 2019, which is an unofficial new act for DOOM, and I believe last year he announced he was working on a sequel using the same concept for DOOM 2, so I have very little doubt that this was created in that project and ultimately rejected for inclusion and this is his way of getting some good out of it, which is pretty awesome.
      - cyberpunk 5y ago
        SIGIL is absolutely awesome, especially with the buckethead soundtrack.. :}
        acomjean 5y ago
        > buckethead soundtrack Wait, what! I know quake had NIN doing the sounds, but if its buckethead from Praxis, I'll have to check that out.
  - adamrezich 5y ago
    I too crave outright propaganda and am disappointed whenever I find out that something is not that
skilled 5y ago
Time to break out Windows 98
- marcodiego 5y ago
  Better use FreeDOS or DOSBox.
- acomjean 5y ago
  I don’t know what state of the art is, but I ran chocolate doom on Linux and Mac to play my old doom levels. https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads sudo apt install chocolate-doom
  - chungy 5y ago
    Chocolate Doom is basically the state of the art for playing Doom exactly vanilla-style, with the low 320×200 resolution and all. GZDoom should be more preferable for "normal" people that care less about every bit of game mechanic minutiae and just want a high-resolution game. (Only caveat is that it defaults to a blurred display... need to find and change that to nearest filtering)
    - tenebrisalietum 5y ago
      The original Doom had "auto aim" - all you had to do was match an enemy's column and the hit would connect - because you were not able to look up and down in the original game. In GZDoom, you can enable freelook+mouselook, enabling 360 degrees of looking, and gameplay is balanced IMHO by disabling auto aim, requiring you to aim accurately. For extra challenge I like to disable the crosshairs. To me, most of the original levels are really not easier with this configuration so I don't feel like I'm losing the essence of the original Doom with this too much. You can also use the awesome Brutal Doom mod to enhance the gameplay - it does add lots of gory effects but gameplaywise it also gives the enemies additional attacks and makes flammable stuff a dangerous thing in the game. Also you can get GZDoom down to 320x200 resolution if you want, and it doesn't set the video mode on the latest versions so no dependency on your graphics card to support ancient hardware resolutions.
nixelpixel 5y ago
VikingCoder 5y ago
I was soooo impressed with the "Bundle For Racial Justice and Equality," and I've been curious to see if something like that would happen again for Ukraine. https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-racial-justice-and-equality https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-racial-justice-and-equality
- trollied 5y ago
  itch are putting a bundle together: https://itch.io/t/1964844/bundle-for-ukraine-call-for-submissions https://itch.io/t/1964844/bundle-for-ukraine-call-for-submis...
- drakythe 5y ago
  There are a couple of Bundles on Itch.io's bundle page, but there is a larger one in the works https://www.pcgamesn.com/itch-io-bundle-for-ukraine https://www.pcgamesn.com/itch-io-bundle-for-ukraine -- According to this article the creators are hoping to push it out for availability on the 7th. Meanwhile, not for Ukraine, but trans rights in Texas, there is an absolutely phenomenal TTRPG bundle: https://itch.io/b/1308/ttrpgs-for-trans-rights-in-texas https://itch.io/b/1308/ttrpgs-for-trans-rights-in-texas
  - brunoqc 5y ago
    Not a jab at them, but I'm not looking forward to the state of the war on the 7th.
- coolso 5y ago
  Hopefully someone will create a "Bundle to Reimburse Small Businesses, Property Owners, Ordinary People, Firefighters, and Law Enforcement Harmed by All the Riots". An estimated $2B in property damages alone, not to mention all of the injuries to both regular citizens and law enforcement [0]. All for a guy who just wanted to drive on public roads high on meth and fenty. :/ [0]: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/study_in_contrasts_rcis_new_dataset_on_jan_6_and_the_black_lives_matter_riots_791200.html https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/...
saiya-jin 5y ago
In world progressively more and more fractured thanx to rather successful psy-ops by Kremlin and similar dictatorships (plus let's not forget Trump helped a bit in this)... its so heartwarming to see a lot of humanity joining efforts and trying to help for a good cause. They say society is (among others) defined by a common enemy, and well Mr P fits the role perfectly. Europe wasn't this united since fall of iron curtain (again Russia, there seems to be some sort of pattern here). The official news from Russia seems like from alternate universe, so surreal. They were always like that, but now its dialed to 11 and a bit more. Proposal from murderer and politician Andrej Lugovoj for forced military service in Donbas for any protesting. Very russian approach...
- mempko 5y ago
  Their reality really is different. But we should be careful to recognize we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story. The truth is some combined version of both realities and the hidden untold realities of people living on both sides of the conflict. What's happening now isn't as simple as Russia bad, Ukraine and West good. That's a story told to children.
  - justin66 5y ago
    > we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story You're clearly bad at quantifying this stuff, and you're also trivializing the problems of a society and a press where journalists are routinely assassinated for reporting truthfully about their government. If you look at a list like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_... and think "oh yeah, just like the United States" you are very, very confused about what is going on in the world.
  - criddell 5y ago
    What are some positive aspects of Russia invading Ukraine?
    - 5y ago
zbowling 5y ago
I used to make doom levels back in 1996 using a WAD editor I got off a shareware CD that had 100 different programs on it. Lots them all.
prvc 5y ago
Does this violate the original DOOM license, which prohibits selling modifications?
- hagbarddenstore 5y ago
  Pretty sure Romero knows the license for his own game...
  - prvc 5y ago
    He may have written that specific provision, if I recall correctly, all the same though...
    - flatiron 5y ago
      When he was fired from ID he was able to use the quake engine (and any future engine which he wound up using quake 2 for daikatana).
- nikanj 5y ago
  I don’t think ID would sue Romero
  - prvc 5y ago
    They sued Carmack.
    - some-guy 5y ago
      Bethesda sued Carmack, not ID Edit: also that was a much different issue around intellectual property ownership, I don't think even Microsoft / Bethesda will sue over soliciting donations
- pimlottc 5y ago
  If that’s actually a problem, they could call it a free download with donation.
jvolkman 5y ago
I don't know what it is about the original DOOM games, but I just haven't felt the same joy playing any more modern shooters. Maybe it's the experience created by Doomguy's ridiculous running speed, or the sheer number of stupid monsters, or just nostalgia.
- rvba 5y ago
  It is thr dynamism. Also Doom had monstet infighting, that seems to exist mostly in other ID games and engines based on their games (half life has this great AI).
  - jvolkman 5y ago
    Yeah, dynamism describes it well.
- ixtli 5y ago
  I think it’s nostalgia but that’s not necessarily bad. Yeah, it’s true that magically music stops being good the minute you get your emotions under control as a young adult but again I think that time is to be cherished. Just be wary of letting people manipulate your nostalgia.
  - leetcodesucks 5y ago
    No it’s actually anhedonia caused by cumulative damage to the brain through having orgasms and this can be reversed and your emotions and sense of love regained
    - ixtli 5y ago
      Eh I assure you I am extremely motivated and have no issue finding pleasure in things ;)
- scotty79 5y ago
  Try Doom Eternal on a decent CPU/GPU. It's fast and it's fun. Although I don't like the slow parts with 3d platforming.
aidenn0 5y ago
The screenshots look way higher resolution than 320x200; anyone know what's up with that?
- nvllsvm 5y ago
  It was likely taken in a source port such as GZDoom. https://zdoom.org/ https://zdoom.org/
- qbasic_forever 5y ago
  There are dozens of Doom engine ports going back to the late 90s when the code was open sourced. Most of them support modern high resolutions graphics.
augstein 5y ago
Nice! :-)
Slashbot2 5y ago
WithinReason 5y ago
If you're looking for the old school experience, I got it working with Crispy Doom as: ./crispy-doom.exe -iwad ./DOOM2.WAD -file ./one-humanity.wad Latest Crispy Doom build is here: https://latest.chocolate-doom.org/ https://latest.chocolate-doom.org/

242 points by marcodiego 5y ago

deleted 5y ago

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roywashere 5y ago

You might want to fix the title

martyvis 5y ago
Ukraine not Ukarine

mempko 5y ago

This is wonderful. I like that it's Red Cross and not for support of military aid.

throwaway984393 5y ago
Not to "start a whole thing" (too late) but can you elaborate on why you prefer Red Cross to military aid? I've not read many opinions on choosing one over the other.
- tcmb 5y ago
  Red cross heals people, military kills people.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- saiya-jin 5y ago
  Well, one just helps the civilians, the other helps with military superiority. Now the big question is, is using of weapons on aggressor something you are OK with or not? Many people are not, so its perfectly fine to help like that. It might not be directly used for killing, many barely 18 years old drafted Russian soldiers are vastly demoralized and surrendering. Having superiority helps to achieve that. That being said, I come from eastern Europe and whats happening is seen in eastern Europe as existential fight also for us down the line. Could be compared to how ie US felt during WWII with Hitler and axis. Hundreds/thousands of men are volunteering in each state to go fight in this war. These are not Ukrainians in any way, more like patriots for lack of better term. Personally, I've donated to the org directly in Kyiv which might use it for aid or for weapons, both are good with me. I would say I hope for peace, but Putin doesn't want it at all regardless of bloodshed, so let's not be naive and kick his ass instead.
JetAlone 5y ago
For once, the use of a red cross on the health pickup could be considered appropriate branding. It's almost redemptive. https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/video-game-red-cross-health-pack-emblem/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/video-game-red-cross-he...

xwdv 5y ago

Anybody beat it yet

idbehold 5y ago
Yes (not me): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqzq-GLiakY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqzq-GLiakY
swivelmaster 5y ago
Yup. It’s not that long of a level but it’s very well-paced and ammo and health are very judiciously rationed out.

cyberpunk 5y ago

Anyone else disappointed there's no.. ahem, 'boss' sprite? ;)

ugh123 5y ago
Agreed. I was expecting something a little more topical to whats going on, with the current cast of characters.
- cyberpunk 5y ago
  Ach, it's a nice gesture. I'm guessing Romero has a bunch of these on his HDD and figured, hey, maybe it's a nice way to generate some donations. All for it. Bought one :}
  - drakythe 5y ago
    Romero released "Sigil" in 2019, which is an unofficial new act for DOOM, and I believe last year he announced he was working on a sequel using the same concept for DOOM 2, so I have very little doubt that this was created in that project and ultimately rejected for inclusion and this is his way of getting some good out of it, which is pretty awesome.
    - cyberpunk 5y ago
      SIGIL is absolutely awesome, especially with the buckethead soundtrack.. :}
      - acomjean 5y ago
        > buckethead soundtrack Wait, what! I know quake had NIN doing the sounds, but if its buckethead from Praxis, I'll have to check that out.
- adamrezich 5y ago
  I too crave outright propaganda and am disappointed whenever I find out that something is not that

skilled 5y ago

Time to break out Windows 98

marcodiego 5y ago
Better use FreeDOS or DOSBox.
acomjean 5y ago
I don’t know what state of the art is, but I ran chocolate doom on Linux and Mac to play my old doom levels. https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads sudo apt install chocolate-doom
- chungy 5y ago
  Chocolate Doom is basically the state of the art for playing Doom exactly vanilla-style, with the low 320×200 resolution and all. GZDoom should be more preferable for "normal" people that care less about every bit of game mechanic minutiae and just want a high-resolution game. (Only caveat is that it defaults to a blurred display... need to find and change that to nearest filtering)
  - tenebrisalietum 5y ago
    The original Doom had "auto aim" - all you had to do was match an enemy's column and the hit would connect - because you were not able to look up and down in the original game. In GZDoom, you can enable freelook+mouselook, enabling 360 degrees of looking, and gameplay is balanced IMHO by disabling auto aim, requiring you to aim accurately. For extra challenge I like to disable the crosshairs. To me, most of the original levels are really not easier with this configuration so I don't feel like I'm losing the essence of the original Doom with this too much. You can also use the awesome Brutal Doom mod to enhance the gameplay - it does add lots of gory effects but gameplaywise it also gives the enemies additional attacks and makes flammable stuff a dangerous thing in the game. Also you can get GZDoom down to 320x200 resolution if you want, and it doesn't set the video mode on the latest versions so no dependency on your graphics card to support ancient hardware resolutions.

nixelpixel 5y ago

VikingCoder 5y ago

I was soooo impressed with the "Bundle For Racial Justice and Equality," and I've been curious to see if something like that would happen again for Ukraine. https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-racial-justice-and-equality https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-racial-justice-and-equality

trollied 5y ago
itch are putting a bundle together: https://itch.io/t/1964844/bundle-for-ukraine-call-for-submissions https://itch.io/t/1964844/bundle-for-ukraine-call-for-submis...
drakythe 5y ago
There are a couple of Bundles on Itch.io's bundle page, but there is a larger one in the works https://www.pcgamesn.com/itch-io-bundle-for-ukraine https://www.pcgamesn.com/itch-io-bundle-for-ukraine -- According to this article the creators are hoping to push it out for availability on the 7th. Meanwhile, not for Ukraine, but trans rights in Texas, there is an absolutely phenomenal TTRPG bundle: https://itch.io/b/1308/ttrpgs-for-trans-rights-in-texas https://itch.io/b/1308/ttrpgs-for-trans-rights-in-texas
- brunoqc 5y ago
  Not a jab at them, but I'm not looking forward to the state of the war on the 7th.
coolso 5y ago
Hopefully someone will create a "Bundle to Reimburse Small Businesses, Property Owners, Ordinary People, Firefighters, and Law Enforcement Harmed by All the Riots". An estimated $2B in property damages alone, not to mention all of the injuries to both regular citizens and law enforcement [0]. All for a guy who just wanted to drive on public roads high on meth and fenty. :/ [0]: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/study_in_contrasts_rcis_new_dataset_on_jan_6_and_the_black_lives_matter_riots_791200.html https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/09/09/...

saiya-jin 5y ago

In world progressively more and more fractured thanx to rather successful psy-ops by Kremlin and similar dictatorships (plus let's not forget Trump helped a bit in this)... its so heartwarming to see a lot of humanity joining efforts and trying to help for a good cause. They say society is (among others) defined by a common enemy, and well Mr P fits the role perfectly. Europe wasn't this united since fall of iron curtain (again Russia, there seems to be some sort of pattern here). The official news from Russia seems like from alternate universe, so surreal. They were always like that, but now its dialed to 11 and a bit more. Proposal from murderer and politician Andrej Lugovoj for forced military service in Donbas for any protesting. Very russian approach...

mempko 5y ago
Their reality really is different. But we should be careful to recognize we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story. The truth is some combined version of both realities and the hidden untold realities of people living on both sides of the conflict. What's happening now isn't as simple as Russia bad, Ukraine and West good. That's a story told to children.
- justin66 5y ago
  > we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story You're clearly bad at quantifying this stuff, and you're also trivializing the problems of a society and a press where journalists are routinely assassinated for reporting truthfully about their government. If you look at a list like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_... and think "oh yeah, just like the United States" you are very, very confused about what is going on in the world.
- criddell 5y ago
  What are some positive aspects of Russia invading Ukraine?
  - 5y ago

zbowling 5y ago

I used to make doom levels back in 1996 using a WAD editor I got off a shareware CD that had 100 different programs on it. Lots them all.

prvc 5y ago

Does this violate the original DOOM license, which prohibits selling modifications?

hagbarddenstore 5y ago
Pretty sure Romero knows the license for his own game...
- prvc 5y ago
  He may have written that specific provision, if I recall correctly, all the same though...
  - flatiron 5y ago
    When he was fired from ID he was able to use the quake engine (and any future engine which he wound up using quake 2 for daikatana).
nikanj 5y ago
I don’t think ID would sue Romero
- prvc 5y ago
  They sued Carmack.
  - some-guy 5y ago
    Bethesda sued Carmack, not ID Edit: also that was a much different issue around intellectual property ownership, I don't think even Microsoft / Bethesda will sue over soliciting donations
pimlottc 5y ago
If that’s actually a problem, they could call it a free download with donation.

jvolkman 5y ago

I don't know what it is about the original DOOM games, but I just haven't felt the same joy playing any more modern shooters. Maybe it's the experience created by Doomguy's ridiculous running speed, or the sheer number of stupid monsters, or just nostalgia.

rvba 5y ago
It is thr dynamism. Also Doom had monstet infighting, that seems to exist mostly in other ID games and engines based on their games (half life has this great AI).
- jvolkman 5y ago
  Yeah, dynamism describes it well.
ixtli 5y ago
I think it’s nostalgia but that’s not necessarily bad. Yeah, it’s true that magically music stops being good the minute you get your emotions under control as a young adult but again I think that time is to be cherished. Just be wary of letting people manipulate your nostalgia.
- leetcodesucks 5y ago
  No it’s actually anhedonia caused by cumulative damage to the brain through having orgasms and this can be reversed and your emotions and sense of love regained
  - ixtli 5y ago
    Eh I assure you I am extremely motivated and have no issue finding pleasure in things ;)
scotty79 5y ago
Try Doom Eternal on a decent CPU/GPU. It's fast and it's fun. Although I don't like the slow parts with 3d platforming.

aidenn0 5y ago

The screenshots look way higher resolution than 320x200; anyone know what's up with that?

nvllsvm 5y ago
It was likely taken in a source port such as GZDoom. https://zdoom.org/ https://zdoom.org/
qbasic_forever 5y ago
There are dozens of Doom engine ports going back to the late 90s when the code was open sourced. Most of them support modern high resolutions graphics.

augstein 5y ago

Nice! :-)

Slashbot2 5y ago

WithinReason 5y ago

If you're looking for the old school experience, I got it working with Crispy Doom as: ./crispy-doom.exe -iwad ./DOOM2.WAD -file ./one-humanity.wad Latest Crispy Doom build is here: https://latest.chocolate-doom.org/ https://latest.chocolate-doom.org/