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Wasn't the No-Fly list originally just for terrorism? Once again... expanding scope.
by voidfunc 5y ago
Wasn't the No-Fly list originally just for terrorism? Once again... expanding scope.
- bmitc 5y agoDomestic terrorism is a thing.
- senectus1 5y ago
- chii 5y agoterrorists and misbehaving citizens are different - the citizen isn't doing it for a political purpose, while terrorists are. it's better to have a separate category for such citizens - nuisance passengers - and allow the airline to charge extra if you're on the list...or pay to get off it.
- heavyset_go 5y ago> terrorists and misbehaving citizens are different - the citizen isn't doing it for a political purpose, while terrorists are. There are plenty of US citizens that are motivated by politics to be violent on planes and either not care about hurting others, or deliberately hurt others.
- senectus1 5y agodefinitely agreed. in the US in particular
- voidfunc 5y agoThat's not the point. We gave the government power for a very specific reason, and now that power is being overextended for a use it was never intended.
- yeuxardents 5y agoIncluding journalists and thorns in the side of govt. Well documented, but not promulgated by mass media.
- bushbaba 5y agoWelcome to why many have expressed concerns on covid vaccine mandates.
- dataflow 5y agoExcept vaccine mandates are nothing new?
- salawat 5y agoNeither is abuse of powers implemented in the heat or passions of a crisis... Yet nevertheless, both still persist.
- ipaddr 5y agoBut they are. I don't remember not being able to go somewhere and eat or work in government. Never has anyone asked or mandated a vaccine for employment for any place I've worked. You can't fly, take a train without them. That's new.. very new.
- kelseyfrog 5y agoWhat an interesting perspective. I've never heard about people who determine the validity of laws based on their ability to remember them. How did you arrive at this way of thinking?
- dataflow 5y agoWhat about all this? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/08/states-have-mandated-vaccinations-since-long-before-covid-19/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/08/states-have...
- zekrioca 5y agoI don’t even understand your metrics
- chii 5y agothis is why you cannot expand power without giving a time limit to it - emergency powers are meant for emergencies only. An emergency must have an end, otherwise it's not an emergency!
- nostromo 5y agoMy state (Washington) just hit its 700th day of the state of emergency as declared by the governor. This gives him the ability to do just about anything, so he's refusing to let it go. Welcome to day 701 of 14 days to flatten the curve!
- voidfunc 5y agoAt some point the courts are going to have to step in on these things.
- bpodgursky 5y agoIn some states the legislatures are... but not all.
- FireBeyond 5y ago
- reilly3000 5y agoAnd what tyrannical machinations has your ‘King Inslee’ wrought upon you?
- nostrebored 5y agoIs this a joke? Because he has certainly used the power granted to him.
- reilly3000 5y agoI see he has used the powers, I genuinely want to understand people who think that he has abused them. I’m easily able to get the idea that excessive executive power is dangerous. I’m struggling to see his particular policies have overreached, outside of the bounds of managing COVID-19 effectively. I pay close attention to infection numbers and the effect of policy on them, and I’m pleased to be in a state that’s been in the 40’s/50 in infections and deaths. If executive power is run amok I would be worried about cronyism, corruption, punishing political adversaries, and using state powers to inflict violence. I want to know if that is happening without me knowing it. I perceive that right-wing persecution fantasy has been overindulged here, and has dismissed the reality of the pandemic. Teach me.
- notreallyserio 5y agoAccording to the article Delta is asking for a new list, and a list of people convicted of crimes and not merely suspected or something. It's pretty different than the terrorism no-fly list.