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U-Haul Growth Index: Florida Has 10 of Top U.S. Growth Cities
- gbpz321 5y ago
- cozzyd 5y agoIt's almost as if people go there to retire or something.
- dijonman2 5y agoFL also has no lockdowns
- digianarchist 5y agoAnd no state income tax.
- dontcare007 5y agoAnd no mask/Vax mandates.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoAnd a desperate need for monoclonal antibodies.
- parkingrift 5y agoNo less so than any other state right now. NY and NYC is home to Covid authoritarianism and it’s achieved absolutely nothing. The numbers don’t lie.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoFlorida wants an outsized "donation" of monoclonal antibodies compared to other states to make up for their lesser emphasis on masking, vaccination, and social distancing. Typical conservative "I want to do what I want, and you will be responsible for the consequences!" behavior.
- parkingrift 5y agoIs out outsized compared to their population or to their need? Why would Florida need more than any other state? New York actually has the most cases by a huge margin.
- gyc 5y agoI live in SF and I'm not aware of there being any lockdowns here in the city either.
- cozzyd 5y agoYeah, no place in the US has had lockdowns in a long time, though I suppose to an antivaxxer, a vaccination requirement to do certain activities may have the appearance of a lockdown. Or indoor mask requirements may appear to be a lockdown to someone allergic to caring about others. Regardless, if antisocial people want to GTFO and go to Florida, I'm all for it (with apologies to Floridians).
- dijonman2 5y agoEveryone who wants to be vaccinated has already already got it. Some don’t: and it doesn’t mean they don’t care about others.
- frozenport 5y agoDo they think getting vaccinated is hurting themselves or others? Appears that a 1 in a million chance of a hurting themselves is prevent them from protecting others.
- bunfunton 5y agoI wouldn’t call them that. In fact living in LA (not for long) I would consider all the fearful people living here to be the antisocial ones. Terrified at every new covid development. Locking themselves inside.
- cozzyd 5y agoI think we're using different meanings of the word antisocial.
- bingohbangoh 5y agoHaving spent significant time in Florida this year, masks and any covid restrictions have been gone for a while there. By contrast, all my new year’s plans in NYC got cancelled, mask mandates exist for gyms and a lot of other places, vaccine mandates exist everywhere, and many many shows have been cancelled. While I understand many (most?) HNers would consider this positive (“look, people acted of their own accord!”), those tired of covid 19 restrictions, fears, and whatever else you want to call it, have looked at Florida with envy. Lockdowns has become a catch all term for this. I need to restate that many might agree with these restrictions so much so that it’s not a big deal to them but it’s not nothing and might even be significant for others.
- black_13 5y ago
- killingtime74 5y agoThe census bureau also publishes information: https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/geographic-mobility/historic.html https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/geograph...
- UncleOxidant 5y agoLots of boomers retiring and moving to FL?
- mrlonglong 5y agoWhat's going to happen if the sea rises up?!
- hiptobecubic 5y agoWe will sell our houses to people who don't believe in it.
- unabirra 5y agoThe same thing that will happen if it raises on LA/Bay Area.
- oversocialized 5y agoPeople are fleeing the lockdowns on the coasts. Also, Pelosi and Obama just bought ocean front/an island for 10s of millions, so even they don't believe the seas rising is a threat anytime soon.
- gyc 5y agoFalse: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/30/fact-check-false-claim-pelosi-bought-25-m-house-florida/8754667002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/30/fac...
- dontcare007 5y ago
- netizen-936824 5y agoIs Florida not on a coast?
- cascom 5y agois self moving a good indicator? wouldn't it only represent a limited segment of the market?
- president 5y agoFor comparison, 2019 and 2020 results. Seems Florida was also #1 in 2019 (Tennessee was #1 in 2020): https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/U-Haul-Names-Top-Growth-States-Of-2019-Florida-Is-New-No-1-19965/ https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/U-Haul-Names-Top-Growth... https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/2020-Migration-Trends-U-Haul-Ranks-50-States-By-Migration-Growth-22746/ https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/2020-Migration-Trends-U...
- jdhn 5y agoI'm surprised Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater didn't make it in there. I guess people moving there are either using other companies trucks to move in, or are just hiring people to move them in.
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- rootsudo 5y agoAnd that's good too - don't need more people here. It's so different from what it used to be, especially the beaches. It's sad.
- sprite 5y agoHow is the tech scene in Tampa? I’m really considering moving there from Atlanta as I feel the crime is getting out of control here.
- jdhn 5y agoI honestly don't know, but I've never heard it talked about as a tech hub unlike how Miami is being talked about.
- throwawaysea 5y agoI’ve heard anecdotally of remote workers moving to places like Florida due to tax policies. That makes sense to me, since it isn’t clear what the high taxes of CA actually get you. Other politically-similar states like WA are also raising taxes - in their case it is illegal to levy a graduated income tax per state law, but they’re nevertheless trying to do so and hoping the courts rule in the state’s favor (https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/capital-gains-income-tax-quotes-who-said-it https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/capital...). Then there’s also the mandate-oriented approach to COVID in many states, which removes individual agency and replaces it with authoritarian approaches. Then there’s huge surges in crime (shoplifting, catalytic converter theft, burglaries, etc) brought on by defunding and soft-on-crime restorative justice policies. Add it all up, and it really does feel like many states are practicing hostile governance under the banners of being progressive or following the science or whatever. Florida is not for me, but I can see its attractiveness - good weather, low taxes, higher liberty, and handling basic governance like crime. I’m not surprised that many are seeking out something like it.
- the_only_law 5y ago> good weather For a couple months maybe. I’m free up in the south and most of the year is miserable for me in FL.
- 14u2c 5y ago> Then there’s also the mandate-oriented approach to COVID in many states, which removes individual agency and replaces it with authoritarian approaches. Ah yes another person who equates a basic courtesy, wearing a mask, with authoritarianism. Or are you referring to lockdowns that have not existed anywhere for 1.5 years? Im finding it increasingly difficulty to entertain any viewpoint of those that lack basic empathy and understanding of common good.
- parkingrift 5y agoYou will enjoy the common good, by force if required!
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- chiph 5y agoIf you want to see if a pair of cities are net gainers or net losers of population, you can use their site to compare them since U-Haul uses dynamic pricing based on demand and availability. Oakland CA to Dallas TX is $7013 for a 26' truck. The reverse move is only $850
- the_only_law 5y agoI suppose at the very least this is good news if I decide to take my career out west.
- mythrwy 5y agoI wonder if there is opportunity in driving the trucks back? $6000 seems like it would be worth a 2 day road trip.
- tuan 5y agoI'm surprised to see Madison, WI in 5th place. What's attracting people to Madison ? I assume it's not the weather, is the job market booming there ?
- marpstar 5y agoI'm an hour-ish from Madison. My guess would be that it has got a good nightlife scene for its size, a public research university, lots of healthcare jobs, relatively low crime, Midwest-nice neighbors, not far from Chicago/Minneapolis if you're wanting to visit a bigger city, access to Amtrak in addition to air travel. Edit: and it's got a low cost of living...
- cozzyd 5y agoStudents? Or Epic doesn't pay for relo?