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DeepCreamPy- Decensoring Hentai with Deep Neural Networks (2018)
- mmiliauskas 5y agoNow we know what HN faps to..
- toxik 5y agoThis is three years old, why is this being reposted now?
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- jameswhite1994 5y ago
- fork-bomber 5y ago'Vagina' is not anatomically correct in the context of the description within the github text. 'Vulva' would be more appropriate. Vagina is the internal passage onwards from the vulva and terminating at the cervix. The vagina wouldn’t be visible under normal circumstances, the vulva would.
- unbanned 5y agoYou significantly underestimate the sexual depravity of your average deep learning enthusiast. Vagina may full well be visible.
- fork-bomber 5y agoPossibly. But not in the average case surely
- textcortex 5y agoFinally something that deeplearning is useful for..
- GekkePrutser 5y agoI never understood why Japanese porn is so popular with all the sexy bits pixelated. I haven't seen much of it but it reminded me of the covers of 80s porn magazines with big stars over everything. Not sure why they do it either but I read here it's the law there. Weird.
- dormento 5y agoAFAIK it is part of some legal requirement, and the political inertia is against change in this case. Imagine yourself as a hypothetical japanese politician/lawmaker. You most likely don't want to be know as "that guy who fought for uncensoring private parts in adult media".
- gaze 5y agoImagine putting this on your resume.
- delusional 5y agoI think the tone of the interview is going to depend heavily on the first impression. A well rounded person with good personal hygiene would make this seem like a fun and weird project. If the person is a total misfit neckbeard, it's going to be less fun and quirky, and more worrying.
- vmception 5y agoThen you immediately pass the culture fit test
- DaftDank 5y agoPlot twist: He's applying at Pornhub next, and this gets him instantly hired.
- luckman212 5y agoOut of curiosity, how many Pornhub'ers are also here on HN? (I mean employees, not users haha)
- marnett 5y agoI believe the company is referred to as MindGeek.
- amitport 5y agoThe company is mindgeek and AFAIKT they outsource (/ use subcontracts / off the shelves tools) in most of their operations.
- smoe 5y agoThey do have a lot of open positions in SRE and development, from the job descriptions it doesn’t sound like just outsourcing. https://www.mindgeek.com/careers/ https://www.mindgeek.com/careers/ They do a pretty good job at never mentioning anything related to porn. So I guess in most cases it won’t be a problem on someone’s cv
- cs702 5y agoA new front in the long-running battle between censors and those who oppose censorship. The use of deep neural networks for this purpose seems inevitable, in hindsight. We live in interesting times.
- marderfarker2 5y agoHow do you recover information that is not there? Best you can do is guess what’s supposed to be there. That’s why I hate watching 4K AI “enhanced” historical films, it is akin to rewriting history.
- mayapugai 5y agoLong story short, these algorithms aren't recovering information that was lost. They reconstruct the images by guessing what should've been there. So, you're not violating any information theoretic concept. But this means the guesses can be incorrect, although the likelihood of that happening can be greatly reduced with good training data.
- feanaro 5y agoI never heard of this before. What kind of enhancing does the AI do?
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- Jhsto 5y agoIt tries to predict patterns from blurry shots. It might introduce artifacts that were never there: some drawings I upscaled turned distant woods into houses. You can see why this might be bad when viewing something for historical accuracy. See e.g., https://www.topazlabs.com https://www.topazlabs.com and https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x
- feanaro 5y ago
- vmception 5y agoOnly works with color images, so that’s basically limited to fanart and explicit covers, and not the actually manga pages where the censoring appears Very limited utility Love the pun in the title
- mrtweetyhack 5y ago
- Mumps 5y ago> very limited utility Easily one of the funniest things I've read on HN; as if decensoring _any_ hentai isn't already a hilariously limited use case.
- can16358p 5y agoI think the name of the library deserves an award on its own.
- throwaway_bdcp 5y ago
- hwers 5y agoHardly subtle
- schleck8 5y agoThere is also DeepThroat, the speech synthesis architecture name of 15.ai (was added later on after someone recommended it on twitter)
- rg111 5y agoNah, that award goes to this project (Hent-AI)- https://github.com/natethegreate/hent-AI https://github.com/natethegreate/hent-AI
- oneepic 5y agoNot to start a war, but Hent-AI is pretty basic by comparison IMO.
- dilap 5y agoHere are all of the double-meanings / associations I can find in the DeepCreamPy name: DeepCream sounds like deep dream, the AI technique To cream is slang for to ejaculatw Thus, "deep cream" would be to ejaculate "deeply". In general, "deep" is a richly evocative word in the context of sex. "CreamPy" sounds like "cream pie," a type of pies, the pastry. Pies themselves also have a sexual connotation, due to the widely popular and influential sex comedy "American Pie" (it gave us the word MILF, for example).
- BTCOG 5y ago
- bgeeek 5y agoBut that name. Ugh.
- hooande 5y agothis name is too much. there's a difference between cute and vulgar. no star
- marginalia_nu 5y agoTo be fair, it's a pretty vulgar application.
- goldcd 5y agoshrugs Not to my taste, but you've got to admire somebody so pissed off with pixelation, they've created a project.. I was disappointed at the issues - I'd anticipated there being amusing complaints.
- computerfriend 5y agoIt's not my thing, but I personally find censorship much more vulgar.
- monkeybutton 5y agoHow popular are the censorship laws in Japan? Is it like cannabis where the majority is in favor of legalization but politicians are beholden to a vocal minority? The whole thing seems so dated in the age of the internet. Anyone in Japan can easily access uncensored porn from anywhere else in the world on their phone now. What's the point?
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- makeitdouble 5y agoAm not super versed in the question, but would wager it’s a matter of who’s willing to go fight the status quo to change the law. Contrary to cannabis, there’s no strong science behind decensoring, nor obvious medical use. The field is already under heavy attacks in a lot of fronts, there would be better battles to fight than this one.
- monkeybutton 5y agoI would argue that using science to prove cannabis/uncensored nips has benefits as an argument in favor of legalization is wrong. One should not start from the position of a thing being illegal and demanding others to argue for its legalization. The correct approach is to start from the position of a thing being legal, and arguing for it being illegal using science. So, has anyone proven using science that censorship has benefits? Reduces porn addiction? Reduces abuse?
- kodah 5y agoMuch of our free speech (and porn laws) are thanks to Larry Flynt. His case rather than being argued through "science" or statistics was argued via innate rights. Whether it's "good" or "bad" is none of society's business, and his case was about establishing the bar where society is allowed to care from a legal perspective. Also worth mentioning that he lost his ability to walk over that case.
- Invictus0 5y ago(2018)
- politelemon 5y ago> The user colors cencored regions green in an image editing program like GIMP or Photoshop. A neural network fills in the censored regions. This will have limited use as it would require highly motivated individuals with enough time to go through their collections. Speculation, also probably won't work with alien/creature hentai of the green skin variety.
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- nomdep 5y agoIt does NOT work with: - Censorship of nipples ... What? Useless!
- wiradikusuma 5y agoI heard hentai pictures don't censor nipples, only penises and vaginas. Haven't seen it myself, of course.
- micromacrofoot 5y agoyou don't need to even go as deep as hentai, you see it in anime (Ghost in the Shell is one prominent example)... it's fairly common to see nipples and a complete lack of genitalia
- toyg 5y agoThey used to censor nipples too, and then at some point they just didn't. I guess the Japanese government relaxed their guidelines a bit - after all, they've now recognized that manga and anime are effectively their Hollywood, and are very busy promoting them around the globe. I expect at some point they will quietly drop prosecutions of uncensored drawings altogether.
- criley2 5y agoThis project was deleted by the original author 9 months ago after they were doxxed/compromised potentially in relation to this project. This repo is a copy. The paypal donate link in the readme still goes to the original authors paypal lol.
- ramesh31 5y ago
- yoyohello13 5y agoPlenty of women enjoy Hentai.
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- mdni007 5y agoWhat a strange thing to say. Do you even know any women? Women watch porn and hentai too.
- wiseowise 5y agoOh yeah, because only men watch porn and hentai.
- ramesh31 5y ago>Oh yeah, because only men watch porn and hentai. Nope. But what is the breakdown, 70/30 at best? There's nothing wrong with watching porn. It's just that having a casual "frat house" culture like this where people feel fine sharing these things in a supposedly professional environment inevitably leads to women being ostracized or alienated. The majority who disagree get labelled as boring or buzzkills and are excluded from the group, while the minority who go along are held up as examples to make them feel bad (we're not misogynistic! look!) like you pointed out.
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- jptech 5y agoNot the latest on censorship. Couple of months ago someone was arrested for decensoring porn and putting it on their website.[1] With Deepfake and all the latest GANs, anyone can probably do it with an acceptable quality. It's just that the sale and distribution of such material will remain illegal in Japan for the forseeable future. [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgdq87/deepfakes-japan-arrest-japanese-porn https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgdq87/deepfakes-japan-arres...
- rg111 5y agoA man was very recently arrested for decesoring pixeleted Japanese porn with Deep Learning ("AI"). Man Arrested for Uncensoring Japanese Porn With AI in First Deepfake Case - Vice (https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgdq87/deepfakes-japan-arrest-japanese-porn https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgdq87/deepfakes-japan-arres...) Note: This is not hentai, but real-life porn. Whenever I see news like this- I feel like there are a lot of work that can be done in Porn with AI. There are several low-hanging fruits that can be very easily solved. I don't know why no one is working on them. I guess it would be difficult for people to say that they do AI at PornHub, and it will be hard for people to find work afterwards. Not to mention the ethical implications even when the humans involved fully agree to everything.
- netcan 5y ago>> a lot of work that can be done in Porn with AI. I think that "can be" is probably and "is being." Porn generally, has a historical tendency to be a pioneering adopter of media technology. A substantial chunk of early commercial photography was pornographic. Early films. Early ecommerce. Streaming video. Porn is currently the most developed/active niche in VR filmmaking. I would even consider renaissance portraiture a part of the pattern. In any case, most of "deepfake" that exists currently besides demonstration is pornographic.
- Barrin92 5y agoads and payment as well. One of the first uses of real-time online credit card transactions was payment for the Pamela Anderson / Tommy Lee sex tape.
- rg111 5y agoI also think the same. Many things are possible with the AI technology that we have today, right at this very moment that can be used to do things are the most wild things. Some of it would be illegal, some of it would be unethical. Good things are possible, too. There was a repo on GitHub that contained the JDK environment variables (IIRC) to identify and box Uighurs from CC camera footage. The news made the headlines. The getting out part was not really intended, I guess. So, imagine- what other wild things are out there in non-public repos. "AI" is a very bad name, and often seen as synonymous to AGI. And people are either afraid or excited about it. Because much of the public facing content is focused on beyond-human AI. I guess this is because it is easy to get fundings, and there are private propaganda Machines running? But there are so much that can be done today. Right now. Good things, too. If there are people willing to do it, and people willing to fund it, things are getting done. AI weaponry is among this. I believe many things are being done that are far away from the public information. Let me give you an example. If there is a drone, I guess, it is not hard for mechanical engineers to rig a machine gun to it. Or with $$$ of defence funding, maybe a drone designed to host a machine gun. Then all you need is basically a cheap webcam and a Raspberry Pi to detect any motion, store the coordinates and aim and trigger the gun. When you have an enemy line, you deploy it behind that, and get done with it. I am sure multiple countries have this today. And this example is among the lowest-hanging fruits of AI weaponry.
- tmp65535 5y agoHere is the first (?) application of deep learning to improve the pornography experience, an Android app called Melondream published in early 2017: http://driftwheeler.com http://driftwheeler.com Surprisingly, almost 5 years after being published, this app still serves thousands of user sessions per day. That rate continues to slowly grow. Except for its user interface, the whole app (client and server) was written in Go (https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/mobile/cmd/gomobile https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/mobile/cmd/gomobile). It uses densenet feature vectors (https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.06993 https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.06993) to allow "touch-to-search" (ha!) with a fractional norm distance metric (https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.23.7409&rep=rep1&type=pdf https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.23...). Citation: Discriminative Unsupervised Feature Learning with Exemplar Convolutional Neural Networks (https://arxiv.org/abs/1406.6909 https://arxiv.org/abs/1406.6909).
- vmception 5y agoHow does it improve the pornography experience? The description and examples on that website don't make it obvious. The Register article linked seems to help but I really didn't get that from the landing page or example video. edit: now I understand, it is a continuous slideshow of erotica, and you can tap any part of the image to be taken down a path of similar images. that's kind of cool. I thought it would have had something to do with decensoring, but nevermind. Does BlueStacks work on an Apple Silicon machine? I don't have an android device.
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- scubbo 5y agoAh, I remember the terrible coworker who shared this in work-chat within a week or so of being hired. Somehow he stuck around for a couple of years despite continued terribleness (of both the "HR-related" and the "actually-doing-his-job-badly" flavours), then went to Facebook. Good riddance.
- 0x0nyandesu 5y agoThe funny part is everyone I've ever known to be into sex, porn, kink, etc has been not the one doing the sexual harassment in an organization but rather the ones calling out bad behavior.
- thewarrior 5y agoBecause they understand consent a lot better.
- scubbo 5y agoThat tracks here. From later conversations with him, he was not actually a hentai enthusiast nor particularly kinky, but was just sharing it "for teh lulz" - whereas I later ran into another coworker that had expressed concern about his behaviour at a kink club. (There's so shame attached to being unkinky - nothing wrong with being vanilla! Just presenting this as further evidence supporting your position that enthusiasm for kink is generally positively correlated with responsibility and awareness of how your behaviour affects others)
- Subsentient 5y agoJust like the heretics are usually the most deeply principled.
- swayvil 5y agoDoesn't work with nipples or anuses. Is it just a matter of what the NN is trained for?