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Netlify raises $105M and acquires OneGraph
- nathias 5y agonice, just don't turn into baddies now please
- amelius 5y agoOften, the whole idea of investors is to make a pile of money that is big enough to corner a market. It has little to do with fair competition.
- robbiemitchell 5y agoLove Netlify. Have to migrate soon because we need a visual CMS for marketing to edit the site more visually and "Netlify CMS" is not nearly as mature as Netlify itself, or competitors like CloudCannon. Netlify: please make the CMS a first-class citizen so we can keep projects on you!
- roofwellhams 5y agoWe used it for 50 websites with pages from 10 to 50k pages per website and for bigger websites this Netlify cms + Gatsby was pretty bad in terms of build performance and editing. Ended up building something custom.
- sgallant 5y agoI love NetlifyCMS but it sounds like you may be interested in what we're doing at tina.io. Contact me if you'd like a quick demo scott[at]tina.io
- djbusby 5y agoWow! Very nice, real-time preview is rad. Link to save you a click https://tina.io/ https://tina.io/
- harrisreynolds 5y agoStrongly agree. I created an awesome integration between Netlify and our no-code platform WeBase [1] to solve this exact problem. I believe Netlify could grow even more if they embraced some form of "no-code" website editing in their offering or directly partnered with us. But what do I know? I am just sitting here watching Webflow gobble up this market! :-) Congrats to the Netlify guys on this raise! Maybe we should apply for their new investment program. [1] https://www.webase.com https://www.webase.com
- _fool 5y ago(I work for netlify). You are aware that any headless CMS works well with netlify, right? (even some less headless ones, but these are easy): Contentful, Sanity, Ghost, Forestry? Our CMS is an open source project that is community maintained these days, not managed by us :)
- creinhardt 5y agoThank you for the list! For anyone interested, apparently Forestry is going to eventually be sunset in favor of Tina, but seems to be built by the same team: https://twitter.com/forestryio/status/1386274017187975168 https://twitter.com/forestryio/status/1386274017187975168 NetlifyCMS has worked well for me, but I think Tina is what i'm going to try next. It's a good time for headless CMS options, so many to choose from!
- deltron3030 5y agoYou can use WordPress with a full site editing enabled theme providing the visual builder, and host a static version on Netlify. Check this out: https://lokl.dev/ https://lokl.dev/
- pwdisswordfish9 5y agoI tried to publish a very simple static site with Netlify not that long ago (post COVID lockdowns). Just several (~4) plain text (unminified) JS, CSS, and HTML files. There was also a .git directory pointing to a non-GitHub remote, not that it should matter, since I wasn't trying to use Netlify for builds. I just wanted it to do a straightforward deployment on par with FTPing your work to a dumb host. Turns out, this did matter. The Netlify CLI was so thoroughly confused by the presence of this .git subdirectory that it failed hard. Not even a cryptic error or stack trace, the process just up and terminated. It took some poking around before I realized that what the trigger was. The utter failure to handle what seemed to me to be a straightforward, "hello world" sort of use case did not inspire confidence.
- ramanujank 5y agoCongratulations to the Netlify team! They have a wonderful product and have managed to capture the imagination of the JavaScript universe!
- lvl100 5y agoGood for them! I am surprised Amazon hadn’t purchase them by now. I really think Netlify can do something incredible if they can offer an e-commerce solution (Stripe/Square/EasyPost/Shippo) that can compete with Shopify. And probably why Vercel is moving in this direction.
- buro9 5y agoOr Cloudflare
- BossingAround 5y agoBig cloud providers (and esp. Amazon) can likely build a better service within ±6 months if they wanted to, so I don't think it makes much sense for Amazon/Google/Microsoft to buy Netlify. As a side note, Github already does a more than competent Netlify competitor for static webpages.
- biggestlou 5y agoCalling GitHub a competitor for static sites seems like a real stretch
- gk1 5y agoAnd how long will it take them to acquire 1M+ users? Sometimes “building” isn’t the hardest part.
- cblconfederate 5y agoBeen waiting for years for startups to start paying users to join
- lvl100 5y agoTo be fair, any of the big tech monopolies can replicate anything out in the marketplace today for less than $100M.
- sergiotapia 5y agobullshit - AWS has existed for years and their UI is atrocious. Netlify's UI meanwhile is delightful to use and predictable. You can get something up and running in no time flat, even without Netlify experience.
- jokethrowaway 5y agoBetween Netlify, Vercel and bigger providers like Cloudflare and AWS, there are plenty of companies trying to own static websites. After R2, I have a feeling Cloudflare will come up with a competitor soon and swallow the entire market.
- kevinak 5y agoLooks like they just did, some 40 minutes ago: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-pages-goes-full-stack/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-pages-goes-full-stack...
- kmf 5y agoPages has actually been GA since April of this year[1] - since then, we've released support for deploy hooks, redirect/custom header files, GitLab support, and as you mentioned above, a Workers function integration. We have a really excellent team building Pages, and we still think there's a lot of unexplored territory around Pages/Jamstack and how it interacts with serverless and edge functions. Exciting times! [1]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-pages-ga/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-pages-ga/
- user3113 5y agothere is one more similar product https://www.stormkit.io/ https://www.stormkit.io/ .They seem to be smaller bootstrapped company
- listless 5y agoI’m with you here. CloudFlare’s speed and downright mastery of the CDN is miles ahead of everyone else (I work for one of the clouds), their workers are insanely good and the speed at which they add genuinely brilliant features is astonishing. They are a full cloud now. Netlify and Vercel are outstanding solutions. But they are not a cloud and I don’t see viability beyond acquisition. Lots of developers using free stuff is great, but only if you can monetize it. Cloudflare has been around a long time, has proven they can monetize and seem to be the emerging “developer cloud” leader. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NET/financials/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NET/financials/
- danielvaughn 5y agoI use Netlify exclusively for all my personal projects. It literally takes like 2 minutes to stand up a site with automated deployments from github. For that alone it's wonderful. I think they're doing serverless functions now - haven't touched them but interested to see what they do there.
- cvhashim 5y agoSame. Perfect tool for me.
- ascorbic 5y ago(I work at Netlify) The most exciting thing in this announcement for me is the $1 million committed to open source project sponsorship. More companies that rely on OSS should use some of their funding like this.
- ghuntley 5y agoGeoff here from Gitpod. I agree. > Gitpod has created an open-source sustainability fund and allocated an initial amount of USD 30,000 towards securing our open-source supply chain by paying open-source maintainers. I often wonder what the future would look like if these high achievers that our digital society is built upon were empowered to become independent artists. If just one of those people can help more people better understand a technology or improve the developer experience for an entire ecosystem what is the worth/value of that and why isn’t our industry doing that yet? https://www.gitpod.io/blog/gitpod-open-source-sustainability-fund https://www.gitpod.io/blog/gitpod-open-source-sustainability...
- iamgopal 5y agoHow about co-operative like structure for open source ?
- pistoriusp 5y agoTotally agree! I think open-source will be a viable career path in the next few years. One where you don't have to join a company to get paid, but can rather pave your own way. Of course, you now have investors and you have to keep them happy, but you don't have to give up your autonomy entirely.
- SNosTrAnDbLe 5y ago
- SnowingXIV 5y agoYears ago I applied to Netlify and went through a pretty lengthy interview process and at the very end it was between me and one other guy. He got it. Now I'm really bummed I missed out. Hats off to him though. Really happy for Netlify's success, still use them for many projects/clients.
- latchkey 5y agoWhy not try again?
- semitones 5y agoThe equity one would receive now pales in comparison to the equity you'd receive as an early engineer.
- latchkey 5y ago> Years ago You missed the subtle comment. I was replying to the fact that the OP had years to try to find a job at that company. If they really wanted to work there and they had been that close in the interview process, another round would have likely gotten them in. This is a common issue that I've seen in the tech world over the years. People fail one time and never try again.
- SnowingXIV 5y agoHonestly, I still did want to work there and they said they would reach out next time a position opened up but this never happened or got lost in the shuffle. I probably should have taken it upon myself to reach out to them and that's a failure on my part for sure.
- nathanaldensr 5y agoThe "we'll reach out to you" is almost never true in practice. It's just a nice way of saying "goodbye."
- mxstbr 5y agoThe OneGraph acquisition is huge news for the GraphQL community! Netlify betting on GraphQL being a core piece of the JAMStack ecosystem for the foreseeable future is incredible. Can't wait to see how this evolves Netlify's product direction — just imagine what they could do with OneGraph's tech …
- marban 5y agoBack in the days it was a tie between Netlify and surge.sh but it's safe to say that we have a winner.
- dreyfan 5y agoIt’s bewildering to me how Netlify, Vercel, Cloudflare and others have convinced the modern crop of developers this approach is fundamentally different than CDN caching and that “serverless” somehow doesn’t qualify as backend.
- rglover 5y agoConvenience blinds.
- dreyfan 5y agoYeah I suppose? I think the “git push and it’s magically live” aspect is great. I just wish modern devs understood how the web actually functions so that understanding is transferable instead of thinking it’s all magic.
- rglover 5y agoUnless they have a personal desire to do so, they won't. Most developers are driven by what others are doing and if everyone is building on Netlify and using Cloudflare Workers, they'll just do that and assume they understand. This will inevitably end with a whole lot of people not having a clue how to do what they think they know how to do when these companies go poof (or are swallowed by private equity).
- nostrebored 5y agoIf they go poof, competitors will take their space. People have decided managed services are worth the cost. Building them is not inordinately complicated. There will always be contenders.
- rglover 5y agoIf there are people who understand how to build the replacement. This is a degenerative spiral. I'll be wrong for ten years and then all of a sudden? There's no one around to Superman in and save the day.
- hasmanean 5y agoI first thought it said “Netflix raises $105 million” and thought…that’s funny.
- swyx 5y agoRelated news and media - techcrunch https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/17/netlify-snags-105m-series-d-to-fuel-jamstack-focused-web-development/?tpcc=tcplustwitter https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/17/netlify-snags-105m-series-... - BVP https://www.bvp.com/news/why-netlify-is-the-architecture-for-the-next-generation-of-web-development https://www.bvp.com/news/why-netlify-is-the-architecture-for... - Onegraph https://www.onegraph.com/blog/post/9/onegraph-is-joining-netlify https://www.onegraph.com/blog/post/9/onegraph-is-joining-net... - the new API Auth demo https://www.netlify.com/blog/2021/11/17/first-look-announcing-api-authentication-on-netlify/ https://www.netlify.com/blog/2021/11/17/first-look-announcin...
- kaishiro 5y agoOne marked downside of all of this growth is that Netlify's paid support products have really deteriorated. If you need a support response in less than 48 hours, your only recourse is to saddle up for their full $2000/mth enterprise support plan. Otherwise, a regular paid account has access to email support which generally has ~48 hour turnaround. This has bit us several times in the past year - generally only when we've hit a wall that we can't reconcile ourselves (redirects failing to properly shadow, custom domains that need to be manually verified/released, SSL certs that fail to auto provision) and require manual intervention from Netlify. Since each support response requires another 48 hour wait we've had tickets take well over a week to reach full resolution. Don't get me wrong, we're big fans of Netlify, and we're excited to see them succeed in this space - they would also still be my first recommendation for any hobbyist looking to host a static site. But I no longer believe they're a tenable solution for hosting anything client related or critical unless you can afford the 24k/year for an SLA. I sure do miss the days when we could hop on livechat with Mathias and Chris and have them kick the servers to fix the certbot!
- dang 5y agoRelated ongoing thread: Netlify Drop - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29254405 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29254405 - Nov 2021 (86 comments)
- v1g1l4nt3 5y agoBig fan of Netlify and also their director of developer experience, Cassidy Williams. She's able to distill "life as a developer" accurately into memes. 'Tis a gift. Her twitter with best memes: https://twitter.com/cassidoo https://twitter.com/cassidoo Recent interview: https://srcgr.ph/cassidy-williams https://srcgr.ph/cassidy-williams
- cassidoo 5y agoThank you so much! Really kind of you to say :)