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Given that most software on this benchmark are basically open source linux citizens, I would say windows 11, which is basically way more functional and has way
by elzbardico 5y ago
Given that most software on this benchmark are basically open source linux citizens, I would say windows 11, which is basically way more functional and has way more features than linux did pretty well, given that we can expect that most of those software packages have probably more optimization work for linux than for windows. Not bad at all.
- Aardwolf 5y agoNot sure which features you mean, but Linux seems to have more of the features that I need myself, like having the ability to choose in what way taskbar buttons are grouped, or the ability to not get regular "system notifications" that are not related to something I'm doing or interested in, and the ability to choose when you update it
- 0134340 5y agoOn Linux, I can even move my taskbar to the top of the screen or to the side and drag & drop things to the taskbar. So now I can't have my normal screen brightness shortcut on my taskbar nor is there a way I know of to use hotkeys to launch it via command other than 3rd party like Autohotkey. I tried Windows 11 and I can't forgive MS for taking away these simple and essential features.
- Aardwolf 5y agoDepends on what desktop you install I guess. There are some that have taskbar at top of screen by default, like Gnome afaik. I'm more of a taskbar at the bottom person myself and use cinnamon.
- fwsgonzo 5y agoI have to say that I agree with this. The primary purpose of an operating system now that I passed my *rties is to get out of the way. And Linux does that really well, while Windows is doing it less and less. I'm happy that we have at least 3-4 popular operating systems still, and that this should help drive innovation. But at the same time, I feel like Linux gets all the free innovation because of its openness. And if you add all the benefits of Linux being very user-friendly (as in not spamming me with ads), then it's just going to be a better choice.
- skinnymuch 5y agoAren’t most Linux UIs largely copying or being strongly influenced by Windows? Not saying Windows has done anything special in a while. I don’t know what innovations Linux has done in the past decade either though.
- jaywalk 5y agoWhenever I fire up a Linux distro, I can never shake the feeling that the UI is just a subpar ripoff of Windows and MacOS. I can't really pinpoint anything, but it just doesn't feel as polished. And that even includes the mainstream distros like Ubuntu.
- maxk42 5y agoTry cinnamon. It's better than the current generation of Windows UIs.
- kaba0 5y agoThat’s funny because windows 11 is such a Gnome 40 copy that it hurts.
- skinnymuch 5y agoIf that is true, it’s like saying iPhone has done some copying of Android and is too funny. Still, Android dropped their entire Blackberry inspired/copied design and copied iPhone instead in 2007/2008.
- smoldesu 5y agoIt's not just true, but blatantly obvious. Compare the design language of Big Sur with GTK 3.38 which predated it, and as the other anon mentioned, Windows 11 is effectively just GNOME with Dash-to-dock enabled. Whether or not Microsoft knowingly copied it is a different argument, but I find it hard to believe that their designers weren't at least inspired by the touch-friendly, reactive desktop UIs built with GTK.
- tyingq 5y ago>Not sure which features you mean One of them is probably mmap(). Windows has something similar, but I wouldn't be surprised at some of the open source products just falling back to something slow instead of exploring options that would work well.
- rhn_mk1 5y ago> basically way more functional and has way more features than linux Uh, I don't think it works that way. If your features get in the way of your performance, you're doing it wrong. In addition, Fedora is not optimized for a particular CPU microarchitecture.
- runjake 5y agoIt does work that way. Otherwise, we’d all be running a stripped down Clear Linux kernel, BusyBox, and a few tool chains.
- rhn_mk1 5y agoI'm not sure what point you're trying to make. If performance was strictly dependent on features, as you say, then we would be running an extremely stripped down OS. But it's otherwise, and no one does it, even those who care about performance (removing excessive services notwithstanding).
- runjake 5y agoThe point is people take trade-offs for performance vs. features. Features take up some measurable amount of performance. It's a sliding scale, but everyone sits on that scale nonetheless.
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- rkido 5y agoWhat features does Windows have that Linux doesn't? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is HDR support, but that wouldn't affect these benchmark results.
- 0134340 5y agoWindows 11 has things like core isolation and "memory integrity" on by default now and that, so I've heard, can lower benchmarks by 10%-20%. Not to mention Defender running in the background constantly scanning all processes, which unfortunately can't easily be disabled.
- revolvingocelot 5y agoAds delivered via OS components, for one!
- Apofis 5y agoI wish I could downvote. On what basis do you state this: "which is basically way more functional and has way more features than linux did pretty well" ?
- refulgentis 5y agoI've been on HN for 13+ years now. I can assure you that there's a better way to get the right to downvote than pretending you don't understand at all why someone would say Windows is more usable than Linux, and not posting anything other than a quote and a wish you can downvote.
- Apofis 5y agoI suppose today's that day: I wasn't pretending, since I use all platforms.