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Maker of ATM bombing tutorials blew himself up – European authorities
- Aeolun 5y agoHe who lives by the sword… Anyway, it’s crazy that there are so many ATM attacks there when the number of ATMs is already so low…
- Broken_Hippo 5y agoThat last bit isn't really an issue. I only use one a few times a year and I can still reliably find an ATM and if not, can always ask at a gas station. It isn't like banks have cash anyways - at least not here.
- dylan604 5y agoWith the ubiquitous use of credit/debit/gift cards used as payment, and now digital payments being used/accepted, ATMs are the modern day pay phone. In true dystopian fashion, cash is heading towards one of those signals of illegal activity.
- yladiz 5y agoThis is definitely not the case in parts of Europe, including Germany. More places are accepting card but it’s nowhere near ubiquity.
- sigmaprimus 5y agoDuring the construction boom in Vancouver, they were stealing backhoes and front end loaders and using them to rip the machines right out of the bank walls.
- samizdis 5y agoSimilar crimes in the UK: Cash machine thefts: What is going on? [April 2019] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47872288 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47872288
- MonkeyClub 5y ago> During the construction boom Nice one! :)
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoThat aeems like a mych safe strategy
- Scoundreller 5y agoThere was an Ontario/Quebec crew that was breaking into shopping malls at night with acetylene torches to cut into the ATMs: https://youtu.be/eerQydNx-WU?t=43 https://youtu.be/eerQydNx-WU?t=43
- imgabe 5y agoMaybe not the best tutorial to follow.
- surfingdino 5y agoStill a real banger...
- GravitasFailure 5y agoI wonder if the manual he was following was written by this guy? https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/world/middleeast/suicide-bomb-instructor-accidentally-kills-iraqi-pupils.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/world/middleeast/suicide-...
- fxtentacle 5y agoWe live in a weird world where blowing up money containers to get the money inside will only net you a meager $2mio over 15 ATMs while getting people to click on your scam crypto IPO link can easily net you $20mio in an hour.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> weird world where blowing up money containers…will only net you a meager $2mio…while getting people to click on your scam crypto IPO link can easily net you $20mio Why is that weird? Local versus global distribution; plentiful versus scarce skill requirements; and experienced versus naïve adversaries.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago"plentiful versus scarce skill requirements" You think promoting a shitcoin requires more skills than blowing things up without blowing yourself up?
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> You think promoting a shitcoin requires more skills than blowing things up without blowing yourself up? More or less skill is irrelevant. There are more people who can blow up an ATM (or be trivially trained to) and collect the cash from it than there are who could do similarly for a cryptocurrency scam. (Few, if anyone, make $20mm simply tweeting promotions for other peoples’ coins.)
- kybernetyk 5y agoIf it’s so easy why aren’t you making $20 million an hour then?
- corndoge 5y agoWho said it was easy? FFS read what is being written instead of going for the epic cheap shot
- surfingdino 5y agoThat's one Skillshare course we're not going to see...
- debarshri 5y agoProbably somewhere in the darknet, there is a skillshare replica for crimes.
- surfingdino 5y agoPossibly. Unfortunately, nobody's going to see that movie since all effort went into special effects.
- dylan604 5y agoWhich is why all hacker shows dramatically use fake screens and what not and/or covered over with montages to speed things along. Real hacking is boring as fuck.
- w4rh4wk5 5y agoDamn, we could have at least learned what not to do. ^^
- debarshri 5y agoThey mention they were training in utrecht. Last year, I saw a couple of guys at 3.00am at my street (twijnstraat) drive in a moped blow up a door of a graphics studio and steal all the digital equipments, Macs, etc. One of the guys had a industrial hammer with him. It was like a clockwork, came at dot at 3.00am in and out in 5 minutes. I still think this city is quite safe. But incidents like these happen quite often city center. I hope it is one of those guys.
- atatatat 5y agoI don't want to live in a region where my neighbors just watch me get robbed...
- rewma 5y ago> I don't want to live in a region where my neighbors just watch me get robbed... What do you expect a neighbor to do regarding a violent gang that blows up a door, takes 5min to do its thing, and proceeds to vanish in the night? Personally, I take way more than 5min to get up the bed.
- lazide 5y agoI think some folks have this romantic ideal of going out with a double barrel shotgun, making an obnoxiously loud cocking noise (que movie clip), and upon seeing them, the bad guys flee and they get a medal and the keys to the city. Which hey, maybe somewhere? But yes, it is not the most likely outcome, or frankly a good idea to try, even if legal in your particular jurisdiction. Ideally response is either 1) it’s defended enough it’s not worth their time, or 2) evidence is recorded enough the perpetrators can be identified, then folks track them down and arrest them when they aren’t prepared for resistance and on guard and there is less of a chance of someone getting shot or blown up in a fight. Because that is a incredible amount of paperwork.
- whimsicalism 5y agoThe amount this is romanticized seems to correlate with the gender breakdown of the website and the prominence of libertarian impulses.
- heipei 5y agoLet me be the one to say "good". These gangs have been responsible for dozens of detonated ATMs in the region where I live (Germany, close to the Dutch and Belgian border). I don't believe anyone has been seriously injured yet, but many of these ATMs are embedded in ground floor stores, with the rest of the building being apartments. These heists will have the shop completely bombed out, and sometimes will leave the rest of the house uninhabitable, so it's easy to imagine what it might do to an inadvertent bystander.
- nivenkos 5y agoEven more incentive to end cash.
- tiborsaas 5y agoYup, this clearly demonstrates that cash is dangerous.
- noefingway 5y agoHas he been nominated for a Darwin Award yet?
- MeteorMarc 5y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards
- marcosdumay 5y agoIf you consider "bomb maker explodes himself" as exceptional, just do a search and you will be overwhelmed. I imagine it become news because that one person was exceptionally annoying. I still didn't understand why people here found it interesting.
- dylan604 5y ago>I still didn't understand why people here found it interesting. I would suggest this is a serious lack of imagination on your part rather than the rest of the HN viewers being flawed.
- marcosdumay 5y agoWell, I was reading the comments to find out. But there are only jokes, people celebrating the happening, and a somewhat interesting thread from people that didn't know that crooks explode ATMs everywhere. And now it's out of the frontpage already. So, no, I don't think I was lacking imagination.
- _hilro 5y agoHmmm, seems like there's more to this story and the group involved that we're not yet hearing.
- echopurity 5y agoYeah, not much info in there. HN is full of uncurious capitalists like "muh ATMs!"
- f00zz 5y agoATMs getting blown up is a pretty common occurrence here in Brazil, didn't know it was a thing in Europe as well.
- wikidani 5y agoIn Uruguay happened for a few months too! I thought it was local to us as well. How weird
- EL_Loco 5y agoI live in Brazil, and here we often think that this kind of stuff doesn't happen in Europe, or is very, very rare. Reading the comments here about Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, I'm reminded that it isn't so.