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Honestly, I find discord super frustrating. Can't have multiple chats open at the same time, can't close the right rail, etc. It's UX is subpar in almost every

Honestly, I find discord super frustrating. Can't have multiple chats open at the same time, can't close the right rail, etc. It's UX is subpar in almost every way that matters to me. I use it because _everyone_ uses it, not because I want to.

Rd6n6 5y ago
In indie game dev, everyone’s on discord and so are your extremely-important potential players. Whether you enjoy discord or dislike it, you’re going to be on there. It has really strong networks effects
tsjq 5y ago
discord is maha complicated UX. close to nightmare
mech422 5y ago
I'm no fan of discord or Slack...but the fact that companies are using slack, and the slack 'threading' is sooo bad, drive me bonkers...
jokoon 5y ago
The top problem I have with discord is that you cannot have a list of favorite channels. I really prefer IRC.
jonshariat 5y ago
Ditto, feels fast and has a lot of features but to me the UX is very confusing.
- SilverRed 5y ago
  Discord is somewhat of a power user UI. They cater to people who are in 10+ large communities and use lots of the features provided. It's not the simplest tool if all you want to do is PM a friend or two.
- agumonkey 5y ago
  everytime I open an irc client I feel lighter.. something about the discord web client is so dreadful. the android app focuses more on notifications and quick switches.. a bit better somehow.
- mvanaltvorst 5y ago
  Personally, I find that Discord feels extremely bloated compared to almost any other program on my computer. Probably has to do with the fact that Discord has still not released a native ARM version of its client for the Apple M1. Nearly a year after its release there really is no excuse for any Electron application to stick to x86_64+Rosetta 2. Discord is literally the only x86 application that is still installed on my MacBook Pro M1.
  - judge2020 5y ago
    Discord recently downgraded from 64-bit to 32-bit on Windows as well, I imagine there were issues with the interconnects with other, native parts of Discord like screen-sharing that were easily 'solved' by only distributing 32 bit binaries.
herodoturtle 5y ago
I second this. Find the UI very confusing. Perhaps I'm just old; but damn, my intuition in using discord's interface constantly lets me down.
derefr 5y ago
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- ibraheemdev 5y ago
  > There are alternate Discord clients, and — unlike Slack — Discord doesn't try to actively prevent people from writing alternate clients against their API. Yes, they do. https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless: > Hey, so I know this is somewhat of a bummer, but I got banned because of ToS violation today. This seemed to be connected to creating a new PM channel via the /users/@me endpoint. As that's basically a confirmation for what we've believed would never be enforced, I decided to not work on the cordless project anymore. I'll be taking down cordless in package managers in hope that no new users will install it anymore without knowing the risks. I believe that if you manage to build it yourself, you've probably read the README and are aware of the risks. I'll keep the repository up, but might archive it at some point. And yes, you'll still be able to use existing binaries for as long as discord doesn't introduce any more breaking changes. However, be aware that the risk of getting a ban will only get higher with time! https://github.com/atlx/discord-term https://github.com/atlx/discord-term: > Disclaimer: So-called "self-bots" are against Discord's Terms of Service and therefore discouraged. I am not responsible for any loss or restriction whatsoever caused by using self-bots or this software. That being said, there's no one stopping you from risking using an account, so go head!
- masklinn 5y ago
  > There are alternate Discord clients, and — unlike Slack — Discord doesn't try to actively prevent people from writing alternate clients against their API. It's again TOS and people have copped bans for using alternate clients.
- sa1 5y ago
  https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248?lang=en https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248?lang=...
  - gunapologist99 5y ago
    For reference, this tweet from @discord says: "All 3rd party apps or client modifiers are against our ToS, and the use of them can result in your account being disabled. I don't recommend using them."
Operyl 5y ago
Going to be the dissenting voice here and say I find the UI usable, and have no major gripes. The Member List can be hidden by the user icon to the left of the search field, and there's a convenient "Compact mode" to make things more dense information wise.
Kaze404 5y ago
I can't think of many reasons Discord "ate the whole market" besides smart marketing, honestly. It does audio rooms incredibly well, but everything else (even their developer support team) is just terrible.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 5y ago
  The audio quality of discord is incredibly bad when I compare it to teamspeak3 (opus music 10)
- porb121 5y ago
  uh, how about the fact that vent/mumble/Skype were all awful?
  - Kaze404 5y ago
    I don't see how that's relevant? I don't even prefer those over Discord, but I don't think it's enough of an improvement to warrant the market share it has now.
    - SilverRed 5y ago
      So what do you think happened? That people were manipulated in to using discord? Or that they don't know what the alternatives are? Everyone I have spoken to loves discord and thinks it is one of the best programs they have. It's only a select group of hacker news style users who complain about minute details the average person does not care about. I know it's hard for most people on this site to understand but the average user has very different priorities. Being able to create a "server" with the click of a button is worth more than every other issue listed in this thread. Having to pay or self host to create a group is a total non starter in 2021.
      - Kaze404 5y ago
        What I think happened, as someone who's been using Discord daily since 2015, is that they came up with a slightly better product than the alternatives, spent enough in marketing (to gamers specifically) to convince investors that it was a platform worth investing in, and only then slowly started improving their faulty software. To say people were manipulated into using Discord is obviously not true, but it's also disingenuous to deny the massive amount of marketing Discord pushed back when it first started, not only in advertisement but just branding in general. I'm not going to address the latter part of your comment because I don't understand what you're trying to say. I'm of the belief that I'm allowed to voice the legitimate issues I have with the software that impact not only myself and other developers but users in general.
masklinn 5y ago
Samesies. It's not bad per se but there's plenty of crap in there. The shortcuts situation is absolutely dreadful for one, I don't understand how gamers can cope with it: * there are all of 5 actions you can bind to custom shortcuts * discord defines dozens of built-in shortcuts you can not rebind or disable, if any of those conflicts with something you need you better hope the OS has a way of overriding it Large chatrooms as well, the moderation tools seem rather limited, maybe it's better for administrators but as a user all you can do is block someone and you still have to see that they're posting comments. It' incredibly frustrating. Then the linking and jumping to old message works half the time, maybe, search is absolute dogshit, and I've rarely seen a less reliable @-autocompletion, half the time I have to find old messages of the person I'm trying to ping before discord remembers they exist and lets me actually @ them. And I don’t think support actually exists. You just post into the black hole that are tte support forum thing.
- xmprt 5y ago
  Slack sold for approximately $30B and it has a lot of the same limitations (or maybe I'm just missing something extremely simple). I think Discord is doing pretty great job all things considered. By focusing on gamers, they unintuitively created a great product for casual and business users.
CoryAlexMartin 5y ago
You may enjoy Ripcord if you're not happy with Discord's UI. I've been using it for a few months, and it's made Discord enjoyable to use. I do have to open the official client whenever I do voice calls though, because there's currently an issue that can cause incoming audio to sound terrible. But for text chat, it's great. https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ https://cancel.fm/ripcord/
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  It would help if discord would stop threatening to ban people for using third party clients.
  - ThatMedicIsASpy 5y ago
    I've ditched the client for web only with custom css. Also allows me to block every kind of tracking (opened programs). I only use it as a chat client and still run a TS3 server because discords audio is just garbage
    - weikju 5y ago
      Would it be possible to share this custom CSS please? Also, what tracking/how are you stopping it?

Rd6n6 5y ago

In indie game dev, everyone’s on discord and so are your extremely-important potential players. Whether you enjoy discord or dislike it, you’re going to be on there. It has really strong networks effects

tsjq 5y ago

discord is maha complicated UX. close to nightmare

mech422 5y ago

I'm no fan of discord or Slack...but the fact that companies are using slack, and the slack 'threading' is sooo bad, drive me bonkers...

jokoon 5y ago

The top problem I have with discord is that you cannot have a list of favorite channels. I really prefer IRC.

jonshariat 5y ago

Ditto, feels fast and has a lot of features but to me the UX is very confusing.

SilverRed 5y ago
Discord is somewhat of a power user UI. They cater to people who are in 10+ large communities and use lots of the features provided. It's not the simplest tool if all you want to do is PM a friend or two.
agumonkey 5y ago
everytime I open an irc client I feel lighter.. something about the discord web client is so dreadful. the android app focuses more on notifications and quick switches.. a bit better somehow.
mvanaltvorst 5y ago
Personally, I find that Discord feels extremely bloated compared to almost any other program on my computer. Probably has to do with the fact that Discord has still not released a native ARM version of its client for the Apple M1. Nearly a year after its release there really is no excuse for any Electron application to stick to x86_64+Rosetta 2. Discord is literally the only x86 application that is still installed on my MacBook Pro M1.
- judge2020 5y ago
  Discord recently downgraded from 64-bit to 32-bit on Windows as well, I imagine there were issues with the interconnects with other, native parts of Discord like screen-sharing that were easily 'solved' by only distributing 32 bit binaries.

herodoturtle 5y ago

I second this. Find the UI very confusing. Perhaps I'm just old; but damn, my intuition in using discord's interface constantly lets me down.

derefr 5y ago

ibraheemdev 5y ago
> There are alternate Discord clients, and — unlike Slack — Discord doesn't try to actively prevent people from writing alternate clients against their API. Yes, they do. https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless: > Hey, so I know this is somewhat of a bummer, but I got banned because of ToS violation today. This seemed to be connected to creating a new PM channel via the /users/@me endpoint. As that's basically a confirmation for what we've believed would never be enforced, I decided to not work on the cordless project anymore. I'll be taking down cordless in package managers in hope that no new users will install it anymore without knowing the risks. I believe that if you manage to build it yourself, you've probably read the README and are aware of the risks. I'll keep the repository up, but might archive it at some point. And yes, you'll still be able to use existing binaries for as long as discord doesn't introduce any more breaking changes. However, be aware that the risk of getting a ban will only get higher with time! https://github.com/atlx/discord-term https://github.com/atlx/discord-term: > Disclaimer: So-called "self-bots" are against Discord's Terms of Service and therefore discouraged. I am not responsible for any loss or restriction whatsoever caused by using self-bots or this software. That being said, there's no one stopping you from risking using an account, so go head!
masklinn 5y ago
> There are alternate Discord clients, and — unlike Slack — Discord doesn't try to actively prevent people from writing alternate clients against their API. It's again TOS and people have copped bans for using alternate clients.
sa1 5y ago
https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248?lang=en https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248?lang=...
- gunapologist99 5y ago
  For reference, this tweet from @discord says: "All 3rd party apps or client modifiers are against our ToS, and the use of them can result in your account being disabled. I don't recommend using them."

Operyl 5y ago

Going to be the dissenting voice here and say I find the UI usable, and have no major gripes. The Member List can be hidden by the user icon to the left of the search field, and there's a convenient "Compact mode" to make things more dense information wise.

Kaze404 5y ago

I can't think of many reasons Discord "ate the whole market" besides smart marketing, honestly. It does audio rooms incredibly well, but everything else (even their developer support team) is just terrible.

ThatMedicIsASpy 5y ago
The audio quality of discord is incredibly bad when I compare it to teamspeak3 (opus music 10)
porb121 5y ago
uh, how about the fact that vent/mumble/Skype were all awful?
- Kaze404 5y ago
  I don't see how that's relevant? I don't even prefer those over Discord, but I don't think it's enough of an improvement to warrant the market share it has now.
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    So what do you think happened? That people were manipulated in to using discord? Or that they don't know what the alternatives are? Everyone I have spoken to loves discord and thinks it is one of the best programs they have. It's only a select group of hacker news style users who complain about minute details the average person does not care about. I know it's hard for most people on this site to understand but the average user has very different priorities. Being able to create a "server" with the click of a button is worth more than every other issue listed in this thread. Having to pay or self host to create a group is a total non starter in 2021.
    - Kaze404 5y ago
      What I think happened, as someone who's been using Discord daily since 2015, is that they came up with a slightly better product than the alternatives, spent enough in marketing (to gamers specifically) to convince investors that it was a platform worth investing in, and only then slowly started improving their faulty software. To say people were manipulated into using Discord is obviously not true, but it's also disingenuous to deny the massive amount of marketing Discord pushed back when it first started, not only in advertisement but just branding in general. I'm not going to address the latter part of your comment because I don't understand what you're trying to say. I'm of the belief that I'm allowed to voice the legitimate issues I have with the software that impact not only myself and other developers but users in general.

masklinn 5y ago

Samesies. It's not bad per se but there's plenty of crap in there. The shortcuts situation is absolutely dreadful for one, I don't understand how gamers can cope with it: * there are all of 5 actions you can bind to custom shortcuts * discord defines dozens of built-in shortcuts you can not rebind or disable, if any of those conflicts with something you need you better hope the OS has a way of overriding it Large chatrooms as well, the moderation tools seem rather limited, maybe it's better for administrators but as a user all you can do is block someone and you still have to see that they're posting comments. It' incredibly frustrating. Then the linking and jumping to old message works half the time, maybe, search is absolute dogshit, and I've rarely seen a less reliable @-autocompletion, half the time I have to find old messages of the person I'm trying to ping before discord remembers they exist and lets me actually @ them. And I don’t think support actually exists. You just post into the black hole that are tte support forum thing.

xmprt 5y ago
Slack sold for approximately $30B and it has a lot of the same limitations (or maybe I'm just missing something extremely simple). I think Discord is doing pretty great job all things considered. By focusing on gamers, they unintuitively created a great product for casual and business users.

CoryAlexMartin 5y ago

You may enjoy Ripcord if you're not happy with Discord's UI. I've been using it for a few months, and it's made Discord enjoyable to use. I do have to open the official client whenever I do voice calls though, because there's currently an issue that can cause incoming audio to sound terrible. But for text chat, it's great. https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ https://cancel.fm/ripcord/

Dylan16807 5y ago
It would help if discord would stop threatening to ban people for using third party clients.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 5y ago
  I've ditched the client for web only with custom css. Also allows me to block every kind of tracking (opened programs). I only use it as a chat client and still run a TS3 server because discords audio is just garbage
  - weikju 5y ago
    Would it be possible to share this custom CSS please? Also, what tracking/how are you stopping it?