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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
- camjohnson26 5y agoReveals it with a person in a suit dancing to dubstep: https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s=20 https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s...
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- LegitShady 5y agothe cringe is strong
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- qzw 5y agoFake it until you make it + Move fast and break dance = Tesla Bot (beta) release in 6 months If it ends up murdering you in your sleep, well humans commit a lot more murders than robots, so it's still safer.
- GrifMD 5y agoI assume this kind of behavior helps with the "Elon" brand surrounding his companies, but it just feels so overdone, unnecessary, and, as another person said in this thread, cringeworthy. I saw the iPod nano announcement clip this morning, where Steve Jobs has a camera zoom in on his jeans pocket, talks about how the Mini fit in you regular pocket, then pulled the Nano out of his coin pocket. It's a little silly and got a laugh, but it had a purpose. It showed how small the iPod was and felt, maybe not natural, but at least tasteful.
- tablespoon 5y ago> Reveals it with a person in a suit dancing to dubstep: https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s=20 https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s... In five years, Tesla bot version 1.0 will be a Tesla-brand gig-work slave wearing that silly robot suit. In ten years, they'll still be working on the robotic version 2.0, which they will be perpetually promising to release "next year."
- abledon 5y ago> https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s... That was hilarious, the way they gave a nod to asimo walking up stairs, the perfect cheesy dubstep music, then the cringe dance... what balls haha. If people can't laugh at this then what the hell
- kalleboo 5y agoIsn't that more the Uber playbook?
- bmitc 5y agoI said this in another comment, but how do they get away with it? People are in this very thread making serious comments like Tesla has even a thread of a chance of actually doing this… I’d love it if Boston Dynamics recreates this dance with Atlas.
- e_proxus 5y agoRisky, but maybe it would even be good PR to try to match the dance and see the robot fall over just to point out how far they actually have come in 30 years.
- elurg 5y ago> I’d love it if Boston Dynamics recreates this dance with Atlas. If Boston Dynamics can recreate the dance, why couldn't Tesla? This is a serious question, as far as I can tell it would only require time and money which Tesla does have.
- rlt 5y ago> I said this in another comment, but how do they get away with it? Because it was a joke and most people have a sense of humor?
- xnx 5y agoThis tops the Cybertruck introduction where they broke the bulletproof glass. It's hard to imagine this is not a jump-the-shark moment for Tesla.
- nickik 5y agoThe glass was not supposed to be built prove, maybe work on your listing comprehension. Also, if you throw a ball like that against a normal glass on a truck it might go threw and kill you. The Cybertruck class stopped it and would have saved your live but I guess fuck them for making a saver vehicle. And the guy in the suit was clearly a joke, unbelievable the hissy fit people are throwing over this.
- mackrevinack 5y agooh god, why bother?
- elurg 5y agoTrolling the haters.
- refulgentis 5y agoI'll pick this up in one of the million+ robotaxis nation wide on my way home from the $800 million shrine we've built in Buffalo, NY that's pumping out solar roofs by the dozen, as they rapidly spread across America. The way the Full Self Driving unit is mounted in the chest is amazing! And the demo unit is so well designed its like a mannequin!
- palad1n 5y agoThe stuff of nightmares.
- polyomino 5y agoSame day as onlyfans fold. Coincidence?
- elil17 5y agoNice concept art
- ramesh31 5y agoMaybe finish the Roadster you promised us 5 years ago first.
- guardiangod 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXz0KgNjK-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXz0KgNjK-0
- rvz 5y agoBy the time FSD is literally 'Full Self Driving' and much more safer to use than today, the Tesla bot will be ready. Until then, it is a prototype mannequin compared to the bots by Boston Dynamics. We'll see how it 'really works' soon.
- postmeta 5y agoprobably trying to lure over some boston dynamics devs with dojo perf and toolchain speed
- laurent92 5y agoIf an engineer is naive enough for that, maybe it’s Boston Dynamics who will get rid of their worst devs…
- sidibe 5y agoIf you watch the presentation it looks like something they thought of 5 minutes before the presentation. Doubt there's even a prototype. He didn't know what to say about it, just showed the slide and then when people asked questions about it he looked like he was considering everything for the first time.
- vardump 5y ago"Doubt there's even a prototype." No kidding, as Elon said the prototype is coming next year. One year of Elon time, as we know, probably means it's coming in less than 10 years.
- taneq 5y agoSelf-driving car community: You realise FSD is literally going to require strong AI, right? Elon: Hey good point, we should use FSD tech on a humanoid robot since it's strong AI.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoWhat a joke
- ArlenBales 5y agoI look forward to this and Hyperloop in 2060.
- panick21 5y agoWhy are people so obsessed with this. I mean literally he said he was not gone work on it. He said that literally from the beginning. Yet people think 'He never build Hyperloop' is a great comeback to anything any of his companies announce anything. He didn't build the thing he said he wouldn't build. Wow, really got him with that one.
- googlryas 5y agoThat will be about the same time that the train line connecting Denver to Boulder will be finished. Started in 2003, connecting 25 miles or so.
- savrajsingh 5y agoI loved the no-frills reveal. I’m surprised it wasn’t a collaboration with Boston Dynamics. To paraphrase Elon: “We have the vision and AI so we might as well ship Optimus. Don’t worry, you can outrun it, if you can run faster than 5mph! Coming out sometime next year.” Looking fwd to it.
- Ancalagon 5y agoSeems like it would be very useful for early Spacex missions
- wrnr 5y agoCan it drive?
- throwawayboise 5y agoMore importantly can it give a good blowjob? Sex is going to be the predominant task of humanoid robots. There's no other reason for them to look human; other form factors would be more efficient for most tasks.
- wrnr 5y agoStay away from me you fucking weirdo!
- paxys 5y agoAdd it to the long list of Elon projects permanently in a state of releasing "next year".
- sixQuarks 5y agoSure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.
- clouddrover 5y agoEinstein.
- staticassertion 5y agoI can think of so many people who are radically more accomplished in vastly more interesting and important ways, it feels absurd to start listing because of how many I'd be leaving out by doing so.
- sixQuarks 5y agoname one then. I'm genuinely curious
- clouddrover 5y agoNikola Tesla.
- serf 5y agointellectual accomplishments: Einstein, Tesla, Vannevar Bush, Newton, Bohr, Maxwell, Faraday, Gallileo, Newton, Dirac, Rutherford financial accomplishments: Rockefeller, Getty, Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Mellon, Walton, Kluge, Gates, Bezos, Buffett industrial accomplishments: Ford, Edison, Gould, Morgan, Page, Brin, Zuckerberg, Branson, Allen Lots of overlap on the lists, but I decided not to doubly-list individuals -- and the lists are by no means complete, I favored recent centuries. That said, Musk is tremendously successful and awe-inspiring; this pissing contest is a miserable thing to participate in -- but I still think it's important to point out that Musk isn't the only awe-inspiring success ever.
- dartharva 5y agoWhy humanoid? That's such an inefficient and overcomplicated structure for a "menial job" home robot. This is either a PR stunt or a luxury product.
- foobiekr 5y agoOr just a fraud like most of Musk's announcements.
- pyinstallwoes 5y agoReally? How many businesses practices are codified using anything other than human-like movement? To expect anything else is the outlier. Any human doing any job in physical labor without specialized design for non-human machinery/robotics is on notice.
- nemothekid 5y ago>To expect anything else is the outlier. Any human doing any job in physical labor without specialized design for non-human machinery/robotics is on notice. In fields of high automation, like cars, production lines are almost entirely automated. Where you find areas that humans are needed isn't because our fingers are uniquely adapted to any sort of problem - it's because the problem the human solves would likely need AGI for a robot to do. I don't think anyone is anywhere close to tackling AGI.
- handmodel 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE I feel like a lot of factories are going to go in this direction. Lots of complex automation but ultimately very simple mechanisms with a strong framework to make sure nothing goes wrong.
- pyinstallwoes 5y agoWhat percentage of labor is factories? We're talking about all human physical labor.
- brikil 5y agoSo the rich are getting robots now…
- reilly3000 5y agoThis won’t be vaporware forever. Seeing the latest from Boston Dynamics makes that abundantly clear. The utility for general purpose robots is immense in difficult environments like the surface of Mars, where O2 wouldn’t be needed. I anticipate a small number of companies making the hardware, and a large, diverse workforce training, supervising, and maintaining android fleets for a variety of tasks. The legal system will have a lot of work to do, along with the general economy. It’s still far out, but not that far.
- qzw 5y agoWould you say this will come out before or after level 5 autonomous vehicles?
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- judge2020 5y agoA future of actual autonomous robots, a la I, Robot, is probably further away that self-driving cars.
- chairhairair 5y ago…probably?
- Clewza313 5y agoBoth are technologies we've expected to have for quite a while, yet here were are, still waiting for anything that's not just a tech demo.
- autoexec 5y agoIndustrial use will certainly happen. Personal use not so much though. By the time robots are feasible you'd be crazy to have one in your home. Like all new tech these days robots will be leveraged against you at every opportunity. They'll be constantly recording audio and video and reporting the events and contents of your household to companies and to the state. Maybe the legal changes will happen eventually to prevent that, but I expect Americans will have general purpose robots long before our laws do anything meaningful about surveillance capitalism and the erosion of our Fourth Amendment rights
- Fordec 5y agoGetting some real season 2 Westworld secret underground lab robot vibes of this. I think it's all the white.
- adabae 5y agoTesla 201x -> LiDAR sucks. Humans don't use LiDAR to drive. Tesla 202x -> Yo guys, look at this vector map we've created with 8 cams and a PS4. But forget about this, you know what ROBOT, LOOK AT THIS ROBOT NOT THE 7K YOU'VE SPENT ON FSD, LOOK AT THIS ROBOT IS FANTASTIC. LOOK HOW THE ROBOT DANCES. ROBOT.
- jes5199 5y agoI think it’s an intentional distraction. The vector map stuff is a reply to last week’s news cycle where the FTC and the NHTSA are both probing the safety of the self-driving systems, but the robot announcement is to make sure no one discusses the “gosh we made the AI better” claims.
- llsf 5y agoThis event was planned way before the recent probing. This was an event to inspire and recruit bright minds. I doubt it has anything to do with FTC or NHTSA, or even Tesla owners. It was not to announce a new version of the FSD. It was job fair.
- jes5199 5y agoit can have more than one purpose
- arriu 5y agoLots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?
- rpmisms 5y agoProbably not today, but Elon has a Jobs-level Reality Distortion Field. It'll happen.
- ksec 5y agoThe answer to your question depends on whether you think level 5 autonomous vehicles is remotely possibly today or if it is a decade away.
- greenbeans1991 5y agohmm kinda there can be more randomness and chaos in driving. Depends on the initial application for the Tesla bot
- adabae 5y agoWhat do you mean, the robot or FSD?
- adabae 5y agoThe robot clearly not. And FSD yes, but they need to recognize the system will never be level 5. Basically as a company you don't want to be responsible of system failures.
- loceng 5y agoHave you seen the Boston Dynanics videos? If Tesla can do even minor improvement, say with how they do the joints or packaging it better - deciding different constraints to use as guidelines - then it doesn't seem too far fetched; price point will be another factor.
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- narrator 5y agoThe new frontier these days seems to be machine designed to manipulate human emotions. Oh look, it has an animatronic face, so it's a person! Let's consent to a sybil attack against humanity because we can't distinguish a bunch of plastic from a person.
- Causality1 5y agoFrom a market dominance perspective this is brilliant. Before now Tesla could only sell FSD that doesn't work to Tesla owners. Now they can sell FSD that doesn't work to people with any kind of car.
- CommieBobDole 5y agoMusk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like iterative design for rockets), to capture markets that were ripe for disruption because they were controlled by a few large players who had no real incentive to improve. Problems like level 5 self-driving and humanoid robots, in contrast, are different. We don't see these things because they are hard problems that require basic technological breakthroughs that may not yet exist. Self-driving is one of those things that's relatively easy to get 95% of the way to, but that last 5% is nearly impossible. And useful humanoid robots are probably a generation or two away from being possible; there are just all sorts of fundamental issues like energy storage, object manipulation, locomotion, etc, that are all so far beyond the current state-of-the-art that they're almost science fiction. I don't see this happening in any useful form in the next 5-10 years.
- zippy5 5y agoHe replaced his marketing department with a R&D department. It really doesn’t have to work, just keep the believers believing.
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- rococode 5y agoI feel people said the same thing about him for SpaceX and Tesla back when he was just the wacky PayPal guy. Remember SpaceX's first launch was in 2006 (before the iPhone existed!) and it's only started getting really serious traction in the past 5 years. Elon's no stranger to things that don't have any "useful form" for well over a decade. I'm quite certain he's aware of the realistic timelines, and he sells a different story in the press for the sake of fundraising and PR. I think he's really got figured it out tbh - as long as he expects the technology to exist at some point, the fact that he's parked a big chunk of cash in the idea gives him an advantage. It's like he's reserved a spot for his company to exist when the tech exists. His team doesn't necessarily have to be the one actually making breakthrough innovations in order to be in a good position to reap the advantages of said innovations.
- numpad0 5y agoPics or it didn’t happen
- csmeder 5y agoIt is interesting that many of the top comments are as dismissive as: “No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame,” When you look at Tesla’s talent in: AI + motors + batteries + manufacturing I can’t believe how negative and dismissive the comments are. Can we not have some appreciation for what Tesla HAS achieved vs only focusing on missed ship dates? The part that I think is going over peoples head is that for so many jobs a robot can be as error prone as FSD is currently today and still be safe to replace a human. You wouldn’t want the robot to control a fork lift but it could replace many jobs in a factory with out creating major risk. The flaw with full self driving right now is not that it doesn’t work sometimes. Rather it needs to work 99.999999% of the time. This isn’t true for many 5 mile an hour jobs. If they can get the robot to complete a job correctly 99% of the time, at the right price that robot will be printing money for the company that owns it.
- throwawayboise 5y agoIf my robot folds my laundry correctly for 99 days and on the 100th day shreds my wardrobe, I don't think that will print money (at least not for very long).
- csmeder 5y agoFrom what I’ve seen FSD makes minor mistakes that at high speeds lead to danger or death. I can’t see a minor mistake in folding laundry leading to the laundry being shredded. Musk said the robots would not be strong (only can lift 5lbs). So unless the robot picked up scissors it couldn’t shred the laundry. Unless I’m missing something?
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- natch 5y agoFSD has not been rolled out yet, so you’re attributing to FSD some errors that are actually made by humans. Yeah maybe these humans were confused by marketing to think it was FSD, just as you think it was FSD, but that doesn’t make it FSD.
- cryptoegorophy 5y agoThis man is living every child’s dream. Imagine being a billionaire and thinking what you could do with all that money? Create a space travel company? Why not. Create a FAST electric car company? Why not. Boring company? Sounds boring but why not. Some people may not like him for his behavior or marketing tactics but hey, they officially spend $0 on marketing. Glad to see this in my lifetime.
- r3tardd3stroyer 5y agoShut the fuck up you stupid fucking retard. "Every child's dream?" FUCK YOU. There are still children out there starving to death, and your stupid ass thinks they dream about trains? They dream about eating, fuckfaced retard. Suck my fucking Johnson, bitch. And then suck Elon's, 105 IQ consumerist moron.
- r3tardd3stroyer 5y ago>DUUUURHRHHRUUUUHHHHHH I BET EVERY SINGLE LITTLE KID DREAMS ABOUT BORING COMPANIES BECAUSE I THINK EVERY KID IS LIKE ME WHEN I WAS A KID, SOME STUPID FUCK WHO READS IRONMAN COMIC BOOKS HURRRDURRR. I THINK EVERY SINGLE LITTLE GIRL READS IRONMAN LIKE I DID, I THINK THEY RELATE TO MY DREAMS FOR SOME STUPID FUCK REASON. >OH NO WAIT, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT. I'M EVEN WORSE. I'M AN EVIL FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT WHO THINKS THOSE KIDS ARE OF NO CONSEQUENCE SO I PRETEND THEY DON'T EVEN EXIST. SOMEONE SHOULD PUT A HOT BULLET IN MY FUCKING USELESS CONSUMER BRAIN.
- tablespoon 5y ago> Tesla announced that it is actually going to make a humanoid robot, called Tesla Bot, and it will be able to grab your groceries for you and perform other menial tasks. So, if this anything like Elon Musk's "full self driving" promises, Tesla's actually going to deliver wheeled robot that pushes the cart behind you while you do the grocery shopping, and occasionally knocks over a endcap display.
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- Nition 5y agoI, too, can make a slide with a concept for a functional humanoid robot on it.
- bmitc 5y agoThis is a complete joke of a company and CEO. How do they get away with it?
- sidcool 5y agoLet's see. By building the best electric cars? And running a sustainable automotive business? Sending autonomous rockets to the space station? With humans!! Reducing cost of electric cars and rockets drastically? On and on and on.
- bmitc 5y agoTesla has nothing to do with rockets, so that’s all irrelevant. Tesla does not make the best electric vehicles. I doubt they’re sustainable in the future with more and more competition onboarding. For example, other car manufacturers rev their models every couple of years or so across dozens of models across several geographic regions. Tesla is clearly not able to do that with their existing three models. I guess we’ll see.
- sidcool 5y agoThere is still no car that closely challenges 2012 Model S. Tesla has a production problem not a demand problem.
- HWR_14 5y ago> here is still no car that closely challenges 2012 Model S. Tesla has a production problem not a demand problem. Early gen products are often overbuilt to the point that no future products, from any manufacturer, can ever compete. Early on, it has to work. A decade later and engineer #3451 has eliminated another $0.10/unit by making all the washers 0.05mm thinner which according to the analysis of real world conditions gathered since launch means that it still lasts the 5 years it's supposed to. The 2012 Model S had infinite free electricity at Superchargers, for instance.
- lom 5y agoIs it just me that’s completely creeped out by how it looks? It’s supposed to be humanoid but yet it’s missing all facial features and the black head with completely white body doesn’t make it any better. Not to mention that I feel super uncomfortable near any cameras that are connected to Musk (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/02/27/tesla-sentry-mode/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/02/27/tesla-s...)
- shirro 5y agoI guess the difference between me and a billionaire is I don't try and turn all my dumb ideas into products. Eventually if you throw enough crazy ideas out there and refine them I guess some of them work. I am still awestruck at the stuff SpaceX does. Probably anyone can luck into a bit of success but continued success paradoxically requires a willingness to fail spectacularly. I think this one can be added to the hyperloop, solar tiles and full self driving but what would I know.
- himaraya 5y agoMusk is a great engineer & salesman, less so a researcher.
- natch 5y agoJust looking at one angle here, among other things, this puts other car companies on notice that if they don’t support full self driving, Tesla will supply bots that can do it. Not this year, not next year, maybe not even in five years, but eventually. That puts the pressure on for the other auto companies to either spend R&D money to compete, or prepare a budget for licensing from someone (not necessarily Tesla) but either way it’s dragging the industry forward. It also can be a valuable product in its own right which will only get more in demand as human drivers start to be forbidden or heavily taxed on some roads for safety reasons. That’s not even mentioning the non driving applications. But just for driving there is a lot of legacy hardware that will still be in use for years, and a humanoid form is what they were designed for. BTW before anyone thinks they will point out some irony, Elon has stated he’s not against the use of petroleum products in many cases. Anyway legacy vehicles are a reality. And they will need safe drivers. I did say there are other uses. This post just focuses on one use case, I do realize.
- gigatexal 5y agoIsn’t this sort of the plot to I,Robot? I, Robot https://g.co/kgs/j8QkAf https://g.co/kgs/j8QkAf
- natch 5y agoHe said they won’t be strong. They won’t have to be strong to lift stuff on Mars…
- sschueller 5y agoAt what point are people going to realize Elon is peddling vaporware to keep afloat? What's next? cold fusion?
- tenpies 5y agoIt's amazing, isn't it? Somehow the dancer in the robot unitard wasn't an "emperor has no clothes" moment, or more aptly a "Nikola pushing a truck down a hill" moment. That's on top of the news that the Cybertruck just got delayed. Again. We're approaching the two year mark of Tesla taking deposits for a product that they don't even have a final design for.
- bhauer 5y ago> Somehow the dancer in the robot unitard wasn't an "emperor has no clothes" moment You can't be serious with this line of thinking. In case you missed it, here's the key difference between the dancer and the Nikola One being rolled down a hill: The dancer was a silly joke (Elon even said "unlike Dojo, that wasn't real") and Nikola One being rolled down a hill was a phony demonstration. Trevor Milton didn't wrap the video saying, "Haha, just kidding." You might not resonate with the particular sense of humor that has someone come out and dance, but that's a matter of taste. The fact is, it was intended as a joke.
- panick21 5y agoMan, you really lake a sense of humor. I was literally a joke. Comparing that to a scam is the dumbest thing I have read in these comments. > That's on top of the news that the Cybertruck just got delayed. A major industrial project got delayed by a few month. Instantly call the police. And this was the first delay btw. > We're approaching the two year mark of Tesla taking deposits for a product that they don't even have a final design for. So what? The money is there, you can instantly have it back. It is quite common practice for many companies both in the car and in other industries. I literally have books, games, computer hardware on order, some already paid for that will not arrive for a long time. I literally have a kickstarter comic book that is delayed 4 years and yet I don't want my money back. This product will be production constraint for a while, if you want it early, you have to reserve your spot for 100$, that doesn't seem outrage in the least.
- rich_sasha 5y agoHow about they teach the robot to drive a car, and you can use that to drive your Tesla? Better still also buy the full self-driving thing so that the robot has an easier job.
- jtthe13 5y agoAt this stage electrek is nothing more than a glorified Tesla fan site. Tesla would announce a new genetically engineered, AI-powered cow breed, and Fred Lambert would find a way to have it all make sense.
- rasz 5y agoHard not to when you virtually own $500K in Tesla supercars provided Tesla doesnt go out of business before releasing them. https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/tesla-roadster-free-killed-referral-program/ https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/tesla-roadster-free-killed-re...
- unityByFreedom 5y agoTesla's announcements leave me with a sinking feeling we won't see anything for at least 5 years after they're announced, if ever. I miss Jobs and his iPod, iPhone, and nano announcements. Those were huge and they were available within months after the presentation.
- joakleaf 5y agoIf Musk was really serious about this, he would start with smaller steps: 0) Finish the tentacle charging robot they demoed in 2015 (roll out to superchargers) 1) Build delivery robot on wheels using FSD (like the Starship Technology's robots). These could be used on hospitals, possibly warehouses, pizza delivery, cleaning streets, painting lanes on roads, ... 2) Build dog-like robot, like Boston Dynamics's spot with a "hand". ... 3+n) Try to build humanoid robot. Each smaller step would provide Tesla with the experiences needed to take the next step, as well as an actual sellable product. This is what a sane CEO would do. I get that Honda and Boston Dynamics have humanoid robots, but they've worked on them for 30 years, and they are not talking about selling them as a generic product. Musk is not serious about this. Just like the boring company (see Las Vegas Loop as example), he is selling a _sci-fi dream_ to people either as a distraction, to pump the share price, to attract new talent, or to brand himself, Tesla and the other Musk-companies. As a shareholder, this actually makes me quite concerned about the sanity of the leadership, the distraction it will cause internally in Tesla, and about the fact that they are starting R&D into something new, while there is still plenty of other more reachable products, they have presented but still haven't delivered. Tesla is a vulnerable company, and they are losing focus. The worst part is, I suspect that he will (need to) present an even more impossible thing in 2022/2023 to keep the hype-train rolling. Now, where is that charging robot that actually looked like it worked in 2015?
- lumens 5y agoFlipped around, but potentially the same takeaways: Turns out building a true FSD car is almost as hard as a humanoid robot. They've already got a Boston Dynamic's-like robot dog internally, but it sucks at getting around a parking lot. i.e. set your expectations of the arrival of true FSD on the car to whenever you think Tesla can actually deliver this robot.
- _ph_ 5y agoI think you are right. The gating part in both applications is, whether you can create an AI which is "good enough" to get a real understanding of the environment.
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- supperburg 5y agoI haven’t seen a single substantive comment in this entire thread. Way too much emotion. Why would he announce this robot if it’s real? If his intention was to turn this into a real product, what purpose is there to announcing it before he’s started? Even if he were just lying to generate hype, wouldn’t it make more sense to make a prototype and show short clips of its parts moving and actuating? There doesn’t seem to be any scenario where the announcement alone has any justification. Especially when he’s being criticized all the time for these announcements.
- nickik 5y agoIt was quite clear, they are trying to recruit people. The 'announced' it because they want people to show up who help them build it.
- tunnuz 5y agoThat would pave the way for a Mars colony, wouldn’t it? A world built for humans, by humanoids.
- alex_munroe 5y agoWhat's with all the cynicism and negativity in this thread? Jeff Bezos launches a rocket - it's not impressive enough of a technological breakthrough for people who watch and judge from the sidelines. Jeff Bezos isn't using his money right. Elon Musk spends his money taking moonshots and succeeding a lot of the time, announces that he's working on an extremely exciting science-fiction-level technology - it's not realistic enough, he's sure to fail this time. It's like there's 1% of people who are trying to take advantage of the amazing time we're living in, working hard, often succeeding, making things and getting things done. And everyone else just watches, judges, complains, and tries to score some points by dismissing the achievements of others. Surely if THEY had the intelligence and discipline to spend decades building businesses and make billions of dollars, THEY would have spent all that hypothetical money better. What does a person have to do to impress you people? What happened to the culture of respecting and encouraging human achievement in America, to optimism about the future?
- lottin 5y agoPersonally, it's the overselling of half-baked ideas what I find annoying. I admire Musk for his entrepreneurship but at the same time I don't appreciate being treated as an idiot.
- nickik 5y agoBecause they want to recruit people for a robot they want to build, you feel like you are treated like an idiot?
- nabla9 5y agoClassic Musk. Full Autonomous driving is not in horizon, but Tesla can repurpose tooling, hardware and some software they designed. Every time trouble ahead, do something completely new. Overpromise and underdeliver. No, it will not do shopping for you like he promises in the presentation. Musk had a plan to fully robotize Tesla factories and it failed miserably and set Tesla back on their goals for several years. Making humanoid robot that can work in uncontrolled environment is task even harder.
- hughrr 5y agoI can’t wait for Tesla Bot to veer off the path with my shopping and fall in a river.
- rmst 5y agoClassic Musk hiring technique: 1) announce overambitious, relatable, unoriginal goal (e.g. human settlement on Mars) 2) present vague, relatable, unoriginal strategy (e.g. reusable rockets) 3) hire people 4) actually have them work on more incremental stuff (e.g. launch provider services) 5) profit
- funny_falcon 5y agoComputer is too large. They definitely should license Apple M1 (M1x, M2) for this robot.
- qaq 5y agoWonder why Musk did not buy Boston Dynamics
- sixstringtheory 5y agoI have no knowledge of what kind of logic is used in their FSD code, but I don't see how they can derive much of a motion planning algorithm for a humanoid robot from it. Does a car have to deal with self-collision (accidentally hitting yourself in the face with your hand) or singularities (aka "gimbal lock"/"wrist flip")? Does motion planning for a nonholonomic system like a car easily translate into a holonomic system like the human body (maybe it's easier to go in one direction vs the other, like holo->nonholo or vice-versa)?
- machiaweliczny 5y agoWorld perception is what they are solving, control is already mostly solved and can be bought (see Boston Dynamics).
- stathibus 5y agoHaha no it isn't
- Erwin 5y agoThis announcement is going to cause a lot of headaches for recruiters -- "no, not THAT kind of android!"
- jollybean 5y agoI will take on any wagers that this this thing will not be walking around making gin and tonics in 16 months or 5 years. And neither will he have L5 self driving cars. Surely, he knows it. So then you have to ask why is he knowingly duping? I bet he feels he can get away wit some BS as long as there's some actual product traction. Like the successful launch of a super-heavy or whatever gives him leeway to make a little fib.
- FartyMcFarter 5y ago> So then you have to ask why is he knowingly duping? Because it makes him richer.
- matthewfelgate 5y agoWTF
- IncRnd 5y agoWho thinks this will happen before cars can drive themselves?
- naveen99 5y agoIs it too much to ask for a humanoid robot to play ping pong with nunchucks as well as Bruce Lee ? Or as good as Tim with paddles ? https://youtu.be/SncapPrTusA https://youtu.be/SncapPrTusA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tIIJME8-au8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tIIJME8-au8 Or is this the best we can do in my lifetime : robotic soccer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bam9WzQbtfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bam9WzQbtfM