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The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.
by xyzal 5y ago
The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.
- paulcarroty 5y agoNot too lost 'cause you can run Linux on M1.
- amelius 5y agoUntil the manufacturer decides otherwise.
- ricardobeat 5y agoLike every other system since UEFI came out a decade ago. Do you use a Librem phone/laptop yourself?
- Nullabillity 5y agoMost other manufacturers aren't in the business of pushing their own OS.
- lijogdfljk 5y agoFwiw, Apple's incentive seems to be hardware from the outside more than Software, imo. They tend to sell the hardware by the software for a lot of people, but given that they're so concerned with keeping their software on their hardware i suspect they don't have much reason to push their software over your software. What would concern me is if we see a big revenue stream from their software. Then i'd question them not wanting Linux on their machines. But imo you already gave them what they want when you buy an M1. I don't see a reason why they care beyond that.
- amelius 5y agoAre you kidding? After getting a taste of the revenue-potential of software in the App Store, it is inevitable that Apple wants more of it. In fact, I predict that Apple will at one point start selling software as a subscription, like SaaS. Other OSes don't fit in that model.
- lijogdfljk 5y agoI'm not. Because for years Apple didn't want it's OS anywhere but on it's hardware. The day apple wants it's OS anywhere it can get it, because it brings in money independent of just it's hardware is the day i actually believe Apple cares about the software revenue. Right now Apple's software is hardware locked. Google by comparison cares much more about the software side than Apple, imo.
- Someone 5y ago> I predict that Apple will at one point start selling software as a subscription That’s not a difficult prediction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Arcade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Arcade: “Apple Arcade is a video game subscription service offered by Apple Inc. It is available through a dedicated tab of the App Store on devices running iOS 13, tvOS 13, iPadOS 13, and macOS Catalina or later. The service launched on September 19, 2019 after being announced in March 2019” They also have “hardware as a service”. https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program: “The easiest way to upgrade to the latest iPhone. Get a new iPhone every year AppleCare+ coverage included Works with your carrier Starting from $35.33/month”
- wobbly_bush 5y agoThis is a 2017 article[1] about how Tim Cook pushed Apple to get more revenue from software services. Recent articles this year add to say that Apple has been successful in this area. So perhaps the image of Apple being mainly a hardware company is outdated. [1] https://www.applemust.com/apples-50b-services-target-just-isnt-ambitious-enough/ https://www.applemust.com/apples-50b-services-target-just-is...
- spiderice 5y agoThen once the manufacturer makes that decision, switch. Honestly this comment is just nonsense.. Apple has always allowed other OSes on Mac. When that changes, buy a new computer.
- Nullabillity 5y agoThe iPhone came out 14 years ago, and still doesn't allow switching OS. What more do you need?
- atty 5y agoThe iPhone and the Mac are different platforms, developed at different times, for different purposes and different markets with different design philosophies. I don’t see a logical connection between the iPhone being bootlocked and the Mac necessarily following suite.
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- yyyk 5y agoThe selling point of Macs is the Apple ecosystem and UX. If you avoid Apple, what's the point of M1? Linux on equivalent AMDs is cheaper and more compatible.
- bayindirh 5y ago> If you avoid Apple, what's the point of M1? - (Potentially) programmable top notch security chip with no overhead encryption - Fanless (Air), cool running, fast processor with very low power consumption - All metal body - Top notch HiDPI screen with color accuracy. - Top notch sensors - Excellent, illuminated keyboard - Big trackpad with pressure sensitivity and taptic engine - Excellent battery life - Excellent battery endurance - Very high sound quality, good speakers, good mics. - High quality webcam - Light for its class - WiFi with plenty of antennas, MIMO support and all modern standards, incl. forward facing ones. Need more?
- Filligree 5y ago- No jank at all. The most comfortable-to-use laptop I’ve ever had, desktop latency wise. - The ability to use nix-darwin for configuration management. It may be incomplete, but there’s no Windows equivalent. - Higher single thread performance than any other device.
- yyyk 5y agoNearly all the HW items have equivalent or superiour replacements, and a fair amount are dependent on the Apple ecosystem. Without Apple's ecosystem it's a good system but overpriced, and that's before you run into Linux compatibility problems. For example, take the monitor - there are monitors with higher refresh rates or more resolution (Retina does 'only' 6K). Also, Mac OS colour processing has no good equivalent elsewhere, so you won't see as much benefit from Apple's monitor without Mac OS.
- ajconway 5y agoM1 is nearly a year old now, and the replacement (M1X, M2?) is rumored to be released in a couple of months. So far no other SoC has been able to come close to even the current-gen M1 in terms of performance + efficiency, with a remarkable x86 emulation on top. On the software side, Apple has the unique position to force every developer who cares about their user base to rebuild their stuff for a completely different CPU architecture. M1-based products are anything but overpriced. The Air’s price is comparable to modern flagship smartphones.
- Chazprime 5y agoFYI: M1 Macs can run Linux.
- wayneftw 5y agoDo you?
- smcl 5y ago"People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people" - Super Hans :)
- modernerd 5y agoWhat do you recommend instead?
- marderfarker2 5y agoCurrent generation of desktop/laptop processors are plenty powerful. I’m unconvinced they cannot fulfil today’s computing needs.
- quenix 5y agoAs an M1 owner, M1 just does it better for mobile computing purposes. There is no denying this.
- bantunes 5y agoYou know, there was a time when people stopped buying cheap shirts made in English factories that employed kids. They were good shirts, too. Is it worth it, though? Is being "better for mobile computing purposes" worth all of this, and whatever else will come next - which we know is just a matter of time, because no one cares enough to stop buying from them?
- gjulianm 5y agoThis is a moot point unless you always verify and check all hardware and software that you use, including communications devices.
- marderfarker2 5y agoI don’t think that’s his point. The point is Apple made a laptop that did away technologies that allow PC ecosystem/choices we see today. The M1 MacBook feels like an iPhone, but sized as a laptop.
- gjulianm 5y agoAFAIK, the M1 is an ARM laptop and the Linux kernel already supports it. I also assume that it won't be too long until we see Bootcamp for M1 Macs. So I don't think that M1 or Intel changes anything in that regard.
- shawnz 5y agoI recently bought an M1 (my first and only Apple product so far). Anecdotally, I only bought it knowing that it can execute arbitrary code without restrictions, unlike iOS. If they decide to change that then you can be sure I won't be purchasing any future models.
- lallysingh 5y agoImportantly, it runs iOS games, which has otherwise been a weak point in the macos ecosystem.
- biztos 5y agoI bought the M1 Air and yes, it feels like an iPhone, but sized as a retro-ish laptop and able to run a dev stack which Apple still won't let me do on my plenty powerful enough iPad.
- fsflover 5y agoYou don't need to verify everything yourself. You can verify any small part and rely on the community to verify the rest. Or pay someone to verify. However, for all that you need verifiability, which Apple lacks.
- eecc 5y agoSo, it’s not that other platforms are any better! Are you sure intel, AMD, Arm or windows TPM aren’t snitching on you? Do we need to make our own silicon from ingot? There’s no technological solution to this problem, only social and legislative.
- xattt 5y agoIs this the real reason why there is the Windows 11 x64 silicon cut-off?
- fsflover 5y agohttps://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor
- GeekyBear 5y agoHave people already forgotten that Microsoft implemented the tech to routinely scan your cloud storage a decade ago? >The system that scans cloud drives for illegal images was created by Microsoft and Dartmouth College and donated to NCMEC. The organization creates signatures of the worst known images of child pornography, approximately 16,000 files at present. These file signatures are given to service providers who then try to match them to user files in order to prevent further distribution of the images themselves, a Microsoft spokesperson told NBC News. (Microsoft implemented image-matching technology in its own services, such as Bing and SkyDrive.) https://www.nbcnews.com/technolog/your-cloud-drive-really-private-not-according-fine-print-1c8881731 https://www.nbcnews.com/technolog/your-cloud-drive-really-pr... Didn't the Windows 10 TOS extend that scanning to local storage as well?
- neycoda 5y agoI'm OK with software generating signatures from cloud drive images to eliminate child porn pictures and catch pedophiles.
- AlexandrB 5y agoYou should read the rest of the linked Twitter thread, because the issue is that if the hash algorithm has a collision vulnerability, any image could be manipulated to show up as "child porn" to the scanner.
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- Razengan 5y agoThe fact that you think people waiting for Intel and Windows 11 are any better off makes me think the same.