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Why are they wannabes? I don't understand why you would insult people who are trying to put out a product but failing.

judge2020 5y ago
There's a lot of low-quality Unity games on Steam, largely because they automated the new game system so that all it takes to publish a game is paying $100. There are some legitimate game designers putting in effort, but some 'publishers' have hundreds of these games and are often just copies of each other but with different assets.
- squeaky-clean 5y ago
  For anyone doubting how simple this is, you can buy entirely pre-made games and template games in the Unity Asset Store for anywhere from $25-$500 depending on how polished the asset is.
  - moepstar 5y ago
    ...and then, something like this [0] happens: 1) create overpromising marketing campaign/kickstarter for a MMO 2) slap together some random assets 3) ??? 4) receive VC 5) profit.. [0] https://www.pcgamer.com/dreamworld-infinite-world-mmo-kickstarter-fiasco/ https://www.pcgamer.com/dreamworld-infinite-world-mmo-kickst...
    - ethbr0 5y ago
      Isn't this just the game version of (1) start a new fashion "label", (2) buy Facebook ads, (3) drop ship from China when / if you get actual oorders?
cenophor 5y ago
They are wannabes because it makes the author of the parent comment feels better. Anyone who isn't objectively the best at something is probably automatically a wannabe. So at the end of the day it's just a wannabe calling everyone else wannabe. Don't waste time on understanding people like that.
- ehnto 5y ago
  That's a mentality that broods on the internet and it's so counter-productive, you see it in all kinds of groups. Your car only producing 400hp not 1000hp? Lame. Not deadlifting 300kg? Not good enough. Not making 6 figures? Why even work! I think it's because what tends to get 'promoted' on the internet is exceptional situations, I think people can get caught up in the thought that exceptionalism is all that's good enough. Spend enough time in real communities though and you realise that the world is full of people having a blast just doing their best, and that there are a million different ways to enjoy and be successful at different hobbies/careers.
  - simonjgreen 5y ago
    It's called elitism, and by far one of the most toxic elements of the tech community imho
    - ethbr0 5y ago
      Elitism is a problem, but so is egalitarianism. Just because we all tried, doesn't mean we should all be rewarded and congratulated for trying. Results matter. So, balance somewhere between the two is best.
- pbhjpbhj 5y ago
  I don't think that's a reasonable analysis. Wannabes want to achieve notoriety but aren't prepared to, or can't, do what it takes to get there. A subjective analysis clearly shows they're not going to "make it" - and if they did some introspection they would realise it too. That's a wannabe, and the World does seem to be chock-full of wannabes. Some people just want to make great games, don't care about getting famous, etc.; they're not wannabes. Some people want to do a job, get paid; they're not wannabes. Some want to be famous and rich, and have the chops to go with it; they're not wannabes. @Karsteki, I don't think it's intended as an insult, it's more "being realistic, most people making games won't succeed because 'everyone' wants to succeed and most don't really have what it takes".
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Aeolun 5y ago
It’s when the product is so bad that any objective observer would skip it. Like, I get that those people believe they’re delivering the next divine gift, but…
georgeecollins 5y ago
I don't think of "wannabe" as a particularly savage insult. I wannabe a beautiful singer, but I am not. How about dreamers?
- cenophor 5y ago
  The fact that you avoided using "wannabe" as a noun to describe yourself in that contrived example says a lot.

judge2020 5y ago

There's a lot of low-quality Unity games on Steam, largely because they automated the new game system so that all it takes to publish a game is paying $100. There are some legitimate game designers putting in effort, but some 'publishers' have hundreds of these games and are often just copies of each other but with different assets.

squeaky-clean 5y ago
For anyone doubting how simple this is, you can buy entirely pre-made games and template games in the Unity Asset Store for anywhere from $25-$500 depending on how polished the asset is.
- moepstar 5y ago
  ...and then, something like this [0] happens: 1) create overpromising marketing campaign/kickstarter for a MMO 2) slap together some random assets 3) ??? 4) receive VC 5) profit.. [0] https://www.pcgamer.com/dreamworld-infinite-world-mmo-kickstarter-fiasco/ https://www.pcgamer.com/dreamworld-infinite-world-mmo-kickst...
  - ethbr0 5y ago
    Isn't this just the game version of (1) start a new fashion "label", (2) buy Facebook ads, (3) drop ship from China when / if you get actual oorders?

cenophor 5y ago

They are wannabes because it makes the author of the parent comment feels better. Anyone who isn't objectively the best at something is probably automatically a wannabe. So at the end of the day it's just a wannabe calling everyone else wannabe. Don't waste time on understanding people like that.

ehnto 5y ago
That's a mentality that broods on the internet and it's so counter-productive, you see it in all kinds of groups. Your car only producing 400hp not 1000hp? Lame. Not deadlifting 300kg? Not good enough. Not making 6 figures? Why even work! I think it's because what tends to get 'promoted' on the internet is exceptional situations, I think people can get caught up in the thought that exceptionalism is all that's good enough. Spend enough time in real communities though and you realise that the world is full of people having a blast just doing their best, and that there are a million different ways to enjoy and be successful at different hobbies/careers.
- simonjgreen 5y ago
  It's called elitism, and by far one of the most toxic elements of the tech community imho
  - ethbr0 5y ago
    Elitism is a problem, but so is egalitarianism. Just because we all tried, doesn't mean we should all be rewarded and congratulated for trying. Results matter. So, balance somewhere between the two is best.
pbhjpbhj 5y ago
I don't think that's a reasonable analysis. Wannabes want to achieve notoriety but aren't prepared to, or can't, do what it takes to get there. A subjective analysis clearly shows they're not going to "make it" - and if they did some introspection they would realise it too. That's a wannabe, and the World does seem to be chock-full of wannabes. Some people just want to make great games, don't care about getting famous, etc.; they're not wannabes. Some people want to do a job, get paid; they're not wannabes. Some want to be famous and rich, and have the chops to go with it; they're not wannabes. @Karsteki, I don't think it's intended as an insult, it's more "being realistic, most people making games won't succeed because 'everyone' wants to succeed and most don't really have what it takes".
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Aeolun 5y ago

It’s when the product is so bad that any objective observer would skip it. Like, I get that those people believe they’re delivering the next divine gift, but…

georgeecollins 5y ago

I don't think of "wannabe" as a particularly savage insult. I wannabe a beautiful singer, but I am not. How about dreamers?

cenophor 5y ago
The fact that you avoided using "wannabe" as a noun to describe yourself in that contrived example says a lot.