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Audacity may collect “Data necessary for law enforcement, litigation” and more
- adrianN 5y agoMaybe we should change this link to https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/ https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/
- miles 5y agoThat link would offer far less background and discussion than the reddit thread.
- floatingatoll 5y agoLinking to a Reddit thread is a lazy substitute for writing a blog post and submitting that to HN instead. This topic is serious and deserved better. One coherently presented viewpoint essay would have meant a lot more, and had a lot more impact, than this incoherent Reddit discussion.
- steanne 5y agothat also has a thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27724389 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27724389
- ozfive 5y agoWhat is going on? How is this possible? What alternate dimension is this?
- natch 5y agoSpeculation, but they could be gearing up to ruin the software by converting it to a subscription service based model.
- bickeringyokel 5y agoAudacity is great for minor tweaks and such, but I can't imagine in a million years paying a subscription for it
- ergot_vacation 5y ago1. Good people make good thing. 2. Bad people steal good thing. 3. Bad people ruin good thing while trying to make money with it. Tale as old as time.
- DNied 5y ago> 2. Bad people steal good thing. 2. Good people sell good thing to bad people.
- aspaceman 5y ago1. FUD 2. FUD 3. FUD Seriously you add crash reporting to your app and all the idiots who can't read swarm like flies. Reddit and HN actually sell your info, and they're using this for crash reporting. My head hurts so badly.
- aydwi 5y agoWhat a crass remark! First of all, learn how to talk on a public forum without coming out like a total jackass. Second, read the actual text. > Personal Data we collect > Data necessary for law enforcement, litigation and authorities’ requests (if any) They don't disclose exactly what they collect. That is the very definition of shady, and grounds enough for a privacy sensitive user to abandon the software. It's not just "crash reporting" as you proclaim. Moreover, if you think they won't sell it, I quote again from the original announcement (which, if you made the effort to read, would have saved us this conversation) > Who does Audacity share your Personal Data with? > to a potential buyer (and its agents and advisers) in connection with any proposed purchase, merger or acquisition of any part of our business, provided that we inform the buyer it must use your Personal Data only for the purposes disclosed in this Notice;
- Black101 5y agoPrivacy is becoming a thing of the past... everything you touch spies on you and report back to the Government. It is nuts... but it will only get a lot worst, before it gets better. "The Internet of Spying Things"
- Black101 5y ago> but it will only get a lot worst, before it gets better The reason for that is that 99% of people don't care about it today... but they eventually will.
- aendruk 5y agoGitHub issue: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1213 https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1213
- ralph84 5y agoEvery legitimate company will comply with court orders. What's the story here?
- speedgoose 5y agoThey don't have to collect data. It's an offline audio editor.
- IshKebab 5y agoThey do if the law forces them to. Audacity are just writing the way things are.
- whatshisface 5y agoIn which country does the law force offline applications to collect user's information?
- eyelovewe 5y agoAudacity is a GPL licensed public domain offline audio editor. There is nothing to compel such a nebulous community driven software effort to behave as you suggest. Not everything is made by companies, you know. This community software is being hijacked by a slimy corporate operator who is doing things we don’t have to accept, as such a code license means that they are not the owners of the code, we are. All that is required is a telemetry-free fork and bad publicity and removal from distros for the bad corporate actor. Ultimate Guitar are bad actors. Denounce them. They certainly are cheeky, putting something they didn’t make out with a new skin that phones home.
- Nextgrid 5y agoAudacity does not need to collect data and has successfully served its purpose for years without collecting any.
- IshKebab 5y agoIt has served its purpose with a shoddy UI. Can you blame them for wanting to improve it? Telemetry helps with that.
- peytn 5y ago> All your personal data is stored on our servers in the European Economic Area (EEA). However, we are occasionally required to share your personal data with our main office in Russia and our external counsel in the USA. Lol
- dylan604 5y agoSo, in summary, we save the data everywhere and anywhere we choose, for which ever reason necessary at the time.
- prox 5y agoI remember software was dumb. I think I like dumb software.
- mackrevinack 5y agojust occasionally though :p
- rattray 5y agoThat's pretty much what I assume is true of any software I use these days, and it doesn't bother me. As long as governments need a warrant to access my data, I'm okay with their ability to do so - it's incumbent on me to be careful about the information I allow into software. Product usage telemetry and crash reports from an open source audio editing app is an obvious whitelist from me. If they start scraping the contents of my hard drive, that's another thing, but Occam's Razor doesn't indicate that motivation here.
- butwhywhyoh 5y agoThe problem is as more and more people like yourself acquiesce to this kind of surveillance, we will slowly approach the day when another version of you is fine with a government scraping your hard drive data as long as it requires a warrant to access it.
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- c618b9b695c4 5y agoThe reddit thread raises a good question I have often wondered. What is my best option for an application level firewall? I want to deny network connections by default and specifically enable who can speak to the outside world.
- miles 5y agoOpenSnitch[1] is mentioned[2] in the reddit thread and was most recently featured on HN last year[3]. [1] https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/od3h8b/audacity_may_collect_data_necessary_for_law/h3yzi8s/ https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/od3h8b/audacity_may_... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22206116 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22206116
- simcop2387 5y agoFor linux, check out firejail for isolating it.
- pmontra 5y agoI didn't know about firejail. Thanks. The gist of it is sudo apt install firejail firejail audacity I guess that the line net none in /etc/firejail/audacity.profile prevents any network connections. And man firejail for many useful functionalities.
- iliketrains 5y agoOn Windows I use henrypp/simplewall. It is lightweight UI on top of Windows Filtering Platform. My only complaint is to all the self-updating programs that keep changing its binary and I need to re-enable them periodically...
- sneak 5y agoNetlimiter on Windows, Little Snitch on macOS.
- throwawayboise 5y agoRun it under a different user and firewall that user off from network access.
- plasma 5y agoBackground: apparently Audacity was acquired, which has new owners with these changes
- ekianjo 5y agoIt's time to fork it
- userbinator 5y agoI thought Timidity would be a good name for a fork -- but it turns out that's already been taken by another, more appropriately named, audio application: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiMidity%2B%2B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiMidity%2B%2B
- aasasd 5y agoBoth HN and Reddit threads are full of name suggestions that are already snatched.
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- RedShift1 5y agoaudametropolis is available
- gentleman11 5y agoSynonyms for audacity… Balls-Studio?
- leoc 5y agoTuneFork natch.
- cblconfederate 5y agoShould be called preposterous
- Animats 5y agoYou can still download the source code and build it. Is there something that phones home in there?
- thinkingemote 5y agoYes. You need to change the source.
- hashhar 5y agoYou don't need to change anything at all. If you build from source all the telemetry, crash reporting and network features are disabled by default. If you want to disable them explicitly each of them is behind a helpfully named compile-time flag.
- matheusmoreira 5y agoTelemetry code shouldn't even be in the source code in the first place.
- aspaceman 5y agoIt's basic telemetry. This is all FUD. Like, massive FUD. It's a standard disclosure notice for when you collect any telemetry data. It's also opt-in, so it doesn't apply unless you opted in for telemtry. They're not selling you. Renderdoc also has one. We gonna throw a fit over that? The telemetry fits are really infuriating because they conflate privacy violations with perfectly reasonable behavior.
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- jim-jim-jim 5y agoAfter a decade+ of use, I somehow haven't installed Audacity on my newest laptop yet, because I've found sox surprisingly fitting for all my work. It's obviously not a full replacement (cli rather than gui) but if you just want to merge tracks, slow things down, truncate files, etc, you may find that you don't need Audacity either.
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- lillesvin 5y agoI used to use ecasound for stuff like that and simple effects and multitrack recording. I found that the simplicity changed my focus to what I was playing rather than how it sounded, and in turn it resulted in me being happier about the music I made. It may not work similarly for everyone though, but for me it made a big difference.
- noduerme 5y agoI have a wild theory here. Some Taliban guy recorded an MP3 message tagged with authorship by Audacity, and someone in the State Dept said "what do you mean we can't get his IP address?"
- sixothree 5y agoDid you misspell peaceful protester?
- unishark 5y agoFrom the notice: https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/ https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/ It looks more like they want to get basic analytics info abut users, which means legally they need this notice, and also of course the govt may come after that data. I don't know if the feds can force you to collect info about users if your software didn't already.
- kzrdude 5y agoTheir way of writing it is very careless, including having "litigation" and "etc" in the sentence. It sounds like they can spy on you for their own purposes (collecting evidence against you) or based on copyright (copyright litigation) or basically whatever.
- kibwen 5y agoNo, it was acquired two months ago: https://www.musictech.net/news/industry/audacity-acquired-muse-group-ultimate-guitar-musescore/ https://www.musictech.net/news/industry/audacity-acquired-mu... It's not statecraft, just capitalism.
- sundarurfriend 5y agoMentioning "capitalism" in any even slightly negative connotation is a surefire way to garner downvotes in HN. Makes sense, of course, given that the audience is mostly entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs-at-heart, emotionally attached to capitalism and hoping to gain from it.
- 29athrowaway 5y agoMuseScore has been in the same situation for a while I think. They are now owned by the same company that makes Ultimate Guitar.
- dinglejungle 5y agoYeah, judging from the MuseScore owners' behavior towards musescore-downloader, the situation with Audacity will only get worse from here. https://github.com/Xmader/musescore-downloader/issues/5 https://github.com/Xmader/musescore-downloader/issues/5 https://github.com/Xmader/musescore-downloader/issues/42#issuecomment-717531853 https://github.com/Xmader/musescore-downloader/issues/42#iss...
- mkl 5y agoKeep reading that issues/5 thread, especially the replies from Muse Group's Head of Strategy workedintheory. It doesn't explain this Audacity stuff, but the musescore-downloader response makes sense (TLDR: copyright holders forced them to add a paywall or remove non-public domain content).
- dinglejungle 5y agoThat doesn't excuse the behaviour from MuseGroup. They essentially were trying to do same thing that rights holders tried to do to youtube-dl, with (somehow) even less standing, since MuseGroup does not even represent the rights holders in this case. Fraudulent DMCA claims and scare tactics ("Information about users who use this extension on musescore.com will be shared with local police"[1]) are inexcusable regardless of how they are justified. [1] https://github.com/Xmader/musescore-downloader/issues/42#issuecomment-717531853 https://github.com/Xmader/musescore-downloader/issues/42#iss...
- mkl 5y agoAgreed on the police threats and DMCA attempt. They seem to have succeeded in getting it removed from the Chrome web store, due to its name violating MuseScore's trademark.
- speedgoose 5y agoIt's a shame to see such a great application dying like this.
- ekianjo 5y agoIn a way Audacity now really deserves its name. I would have never expected they would go that far.
- phendrenad2 5y agoSo this is all based on what privacy statement?
- throwaaskjdfh 5y ago> What would make someone think that this applies to Audacity, the program, and not Audacity, the website? Because the first full sentence of the policy at https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/ https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/ specifies that it applies to "our desktop app Audacity".
- bombcar 5y agoDoesn’t this tie in with the recent YouTube video by the guy who critiqued music composing programs? And Audacity hired him to clean up the UI which added telemetry or something?
- fl0wenol 5y agoUnfortunately, yes, as he works for the parent company. I like the guy but I didn't know about Muse Score's/UG shady history. Sad...
- fartcannon 5y agoHe's a wolf in sheep's clothing at this point.
- chillingeffect 5y agoIt's a great illustration of how celebrity is leveraged by the powerful. Muse group picked tantacrul, a celebrated figure for his strong opinions, and told him, "here's how you can do good." And he can do lots of good, but this isn't a tasty way to do it. This is using him instead of as an experienced ui consultant in music software, as a smokescreen for an exploitation of open source culminating in sending user data to Russian law enforcement.
- fartcannon 5y agoHe's still working there, so perhaps he is in support of it?
- Angius 5y agoHe was hired as the project lead to improve the UI/UX of Audacity, yes. I don't think the spyware ideas are strictly his, but he is the face of the project whether he wants it or not.
- lifeplusplus 5y agohow will forking situation play out?
- userbinator 5y agoIt's sad to see "telemetry" getting infused into everything, and disappointing that developers are happy with --- or even encouraging --- this behaviour. I think Microsoft really started the trend, before that it was just called "spyware". I have a very old version of Audacity, that I still occasionally use, and see no reason to "upgrade". Now I'm even more convinced not to.
- enumjorge 5y ago> I think Microsoft really started the trend, before that it was just called "spyware". I thought Google was the one that popularized the whole “data-driven decision making”?
- userbinator 5y agoTrue that Google was doing it on its sites before MS, but there's an implicit sense of that being more acceptable because it's a remote site and not software which should otherwise have no use for a network connection phoning home.
- newscracker 5y agoThe audacity of it! (pun intended) Fork it, call it Audacious and be done with it. There’s no reason for an offline application to collect data “necessary for law enforcement”. We’re already in an age where software is increasingly tilting towards becoming SaaS. We don’t need offline applications to behave as if they’re online or SaaS ones. If this is only about telemetry or analytics, make it an opt-in choice on first run. I wasn’t aware that Audacity had been acquired by The Muse Group recently. [1] I don’t think this will go well for users when private interests and concerns conflict with public ones. The next obvious question would be about equivalent alternatives that are free and open source. [1]: https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/business/audacity-acquired-by-muse-group https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/business/audacity-acquired-b...
- steanne 5y agothat'll cause some confusion: https://audacious-media-player.org/ https://audacious-media-player.org/
- bhrgunatha 5y agoMaybe a musical synonym of Audacity, like Pluck.
- jraph 5y ago> The audacity of it! (pun intended) Fork it, call it Audacious and be done with it. Already taken by an audio related project: https://audacious-media-player.org/ https://audacious-media-player.org/ I have used it for a long time. To my surprise, it is still alive and seems to have evolved a bit seeing the screenshot and it looks good, I think I'll look into it.
- martinkunev 5y agoThere already is software called audacious. Apparently it's called Tenacity now.
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- Animats 5y agoAudacity now has quite a bit of networking code. Some of the more interesting parts involve something called "Sentry". Code for that went in 26 days ago.[1] I'm not sure when this runs, but there is code here [2] to read the contents of the URL https://sentry.io/get-cli/ https://sentry.io/get-cli/ and feed it into the bash shell. Whomever controls that URL can download anything they want. This supposedly is for crash reporting. Whether this is a security problem I will leave to others. [1] https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/97914403f61cfebf6f3c87d084dc1a5e5d5eac7d/libraries/lib-sentry-reporting/SentryRequestBuilder.cpp https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/97914403f61cfebf6f... [2] https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/2e0e3b4162c8e4ab3dab1f0ca0494b0acf024e8e/scripts/ci/upload_debug_symbols.sh https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/2e0e3b4162c8e4ab3d...
- javajosh 5y agoYou beat me to it! But I doubt Sentry is the vector - it's a generally legitimate service that helps software devs track failures in the wild without the users having to report anything - I've worked with it for single page web applications. Of course, it could be abused to track anything. The right short-term thing to do is deny it networking access with LittleSnitch (mac) or the equivalent, while buying time to produce a privacy-preserving fork. FWIW, I don't think Sentry is appropriate for this kind of application. OSS should have opt-in error reporting only. It would also be a good opportunity for the fork to factor out the UI into something like Electron, because the Audacity UI has always been pretty bad, IMHO. (I suspect the biggest obstacle to producing a viable fork will be fights over which pun to use as a replacement name.)
- sneak 5y agoIt's not legitimate because it happens without the consent of the user. It transmits their data without ever asking them if they want to be spied on.
- iakov 5y agoIt's not Sentry's job to ask users for consent, but the software developers. If you want to be mad - be mad at the people who are doing the truly shitty things with your data, not at the legitimate vendor.
- ergot_vacation 5y agoIs this going to be Freenet in software form? The first bit of fuckery with FN wasn't enough to drive most people away. Nor the second even. But it KEPT HAPPENING, over and over, and eventually critical mass was hit. You'd think after the last time the Audacity vultures would have learned their lesson, but of course they don't care. It's just another thing destroy in the vague hope of making money. Audacity should have no online components. NONE. And as such, no such notice should be needed.
- nerdponx 5y agoWhat happened with Freenet?
- mavhc 5y agoIt changed its name and the servers it runs on
- mkl 5y agoThat's Freenode, which it seems is what the GP comment is thinking of. Freenet is unrelated.
- Kwpolska 5y agoThat's not an accurate representation of the freenode situation: freenode was taken over, the old staff disagreed with the decisions of the new owner and left to create Libera.Chat, and then the new ownership started banning people and taking over channels for talking about Libera, changed the server software, effectively deleted the nickname database, and is producing really delusional messaging, such as https://freenode.com/news/introducing-irc https://freenode.com/news/introducing-irc .
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- andrius4669 5y agos/freenet/freenode/
- WesolyKubeczek 5y agoSo, we have been promised much-awaited UX improvements, but what we get is what amounts to be spyware of one form or other. Not cool, Muse group, not cool at all. You’ve got to give some before you collect any.
- progre 5y agoThe way to UX improvements apperently involves forking WxWidgets.
- WesolyKubeczek 5y agoThen this is what they should be focusing on. Although, for example, to clean up excessive modals with a lonely OK button that annoy you after every operation, you don’t need to fork wxWidgets, and you need exactly zero telemetry to know it’s annoying.
- TonyTrapp 5y agoAudacity was already using its own wxWidgets fork before the acquisition.
- hashhar 5y agoThere is a lot of flamebait on HN these days. People just regurgitate talking points they see elsewhere without any context. In this case the wxWidgets fork has existed for a very-very long time and has nothing to do with the acquisition.
- aspaceman 5y agoLots of non-technical fud. It's actually really funny because you get to see how poor everyone's technical literacy is. They pretend to be ,very, smart. But then claim a bash script part of the build is selling your soul to Russia or something.
- koide 5y agoOne point I rarely find when something like this happens is the question of why was the software sold. It's likely that if, for example, people had a culture of giving to OSS developers the acquisition may have not happened or even made economic sense. It's easy to say "bad companies, let's fork!", but who's going to maintain it in the long run?
- gentleman11 5y agoSome commenters in the GitHub thread have pointed out that this license requires audacity to ban people 13 or under from using the app for privacy/consent reasons. This means that it’s not usable for education now, and also that audacity is in violation of the gpl. However, as the copyright owners, does that matter? How does that work?
- userbinator 5y agoYou can still use the older versions, from before they did that.
- IshKebab 5y agoI don't think they are the copyright owners unless Audacity had a copyright assignment agreement which seems unlikely.
- burundi_coffee 5y agoYes, there is, check out their Github discussion page! There was a lot of resentment because of their CLA (rightfully so).
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- BeFlatXIII 5y agoWhat’s stopping a public school district from straight-up ignoring that bit of the license agreement and using it in their classrooms anyway? Who will enforce that clause?
- stjohnswarts 5y agoIt's just to cover their butts if it comes up in court. License agreements are extremely weak and often not worth the bits they're displayed with.
- Igelau 5y ago> audacity is in violation of the gpl. However, as the copyright owners, does that matter? How does that work? IANAL, but the license is something the rightsholder distributes so that others know what they can and can't do with a copyrighted work. It doesn't apply to the rightsholder past putting down to paper what they can't get litigious at you for. (EDIT: reading the GitHub thread, it seems a bit more complicated than that due to outside contributions back to Audacity still being GPL) GPL still applies to the last version it was distributed with. > license requires audacity to ban people 13 or under from using the app for privacy/consent reasons I don't know about today's youth, but I know in my generation we did a fair bit of checking boxes that said we were 18+ when we weren't.
- nkssy 5y agoFor me, I just need the audio equivalent of notepad or nano. A simple editor with the basics. For those playing along at home, be aware that sox has a typosquatting link on their own page to http://sorceforge.net/ http://sorceforge.net/ (The U was missing in both the text and actual URL so make of that what you will). People are apparently selling Audacity in what are basically just re-skins then expecting the original project to provide support. This is likely one trigger for all the monetisation paths going on. The arguments around "its gpl so its ok" start getting a bit weak when the for-profit offerings are probably just thin layered re-skins. I think people need to learn ethics. Just because its legal doesn't make it right.
- nkssy 5y agoWhy was this downvoted to -1? Why was this deemed inappropriate?
- cblconfederate 5y agoSo where can i download the binary without that spying code? I m sure it exists somewhere this is unacceptable for gpl software
- CookieMon 5y agoThe deal to be acquired by Muse Group was announced 30 April, and "Muse Group was formed just a few days prior to the Audacity announcement, on 26 April" The latest release "Audacity-3.0.2" tag on github is 14th April, as is the date that the Windows 3.0.2 installer was signed. So the current latest release predates the announcement and formation of Muse Group. The privacy notice was updated 2nd July. We don't know if that's when the new clause was added, however issue #1213 on github suggests that it was. But I've not looked at the code, so don't know what telemetry was already in place before the project was acquired. Anyone?
- Uupis 5y agoIt looks like 3.0.2 tag is fine. Sentry seems to have been added in June: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/commit/cb1f8b6c34b0ae20ed1a423093344798e5a5a20f https://github.com/audacity/audacity/commit/cb1f8b6c34b0ae20... Besides, can such a privacy policy even apply retro-actively?
- 0x_rs 5y agoDoes not seem very much in line with their response at the time of "basic telemetry" addition [0], or at least that's my impression. Telemetry can be useful, but can also be the first step towards something much worse that we could see with this project now. Is this data worth their image and Audacity's longstanding fame as a reliable, no-fuss program? [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/n6kxm8/psa_audacity_pr_to_add_telemetry_sharing_user/gx91j70/ https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/n6kxm8/psa_aud...
- eyelovewe 5y agoThe bad actor in question has a known history of smash and grab “audacity” with copyright and guitar tablature, Ultimate Guitar. It sounds like some of the historically aggrieved parties need to get together and do something about these trolls
- bronlund 5y agoRIP Audacity
- aceArtGmbH 5y agoNice: telemetry, CLA and now data collection •`_´• Soon it will be a closed source data collecting SaaS solution
- DavidPiper 5y agoFrom a quick look at the Github releases page and the acquisition articles, it looks like Audacity 3.0.0 and 2.4.2 are the most recent versions of Audacity people can fork / download from before the acquisition. Sounds like there are already other forks on their way though.
- mercora 5y agoit might be a bit offtopic but there is a somewhat easy solution to isolate networking for some applications if needed; sudo ip netns add lonly sudo ip netns exec lonly sudo -u $USER -i this should start an interactive shell session with isolated networking, the shell will only see a separate loopback interface without further ado. anything started like this will share the same isolated network environment but you can add and use as many separate network namespaces as needed... https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/ip-netns.8.html https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/ip-netns.8.html
- Hello71 5y agothere's an easier way that doesn't require root and also doesn't break your environment variables: unshare -Ucn program
- mercora 5y agohuh, for some reason i did not know about this utility but it really looks like a better approach. i feel a bit unsure if running in a new user namespace could break things in subtle ways somehow though. however, it works without user namespace separation too. the cgroup namespace separation is required on my machine to make it work without root for some reason yet unknown to me.
- jfrunyon 5y agoIt already doesn't require root, nor does it necessarily break your environment variables.
- cs2733 5y agoThere are so many apps nowadays. I recently moved from linux to mac and was looking for an alternative to Audacity - it turns out the audio editing portion of Da Vinci Resolve does what I need just fine. In case someone wonders - I moved to mac because of the macbook air m1. It's modern powerful hardware and silent, which is great for creative work. Previously I was on an HP business laptop from 2013 :-P
- daemonhunter 5y agoWhat was the last good version available for download? Gotta give the new fork developers time to get off the ground.
- crodjer 5y agoIs disabling the internet access to the application not a viable short term solution? We can't remove it yet as it is required in an ongoing project. I am currently denying access to the application via: flatpak override --unshare=network org.audacityteam.Audacity
- crodjer 5y agoI was analyzing the network traffic for the app (as i use a self hosted AdGuard Home), but couldn't find which domain it wants. I figured blocking all internet should be fine as Audacity works perfectly fine offline.
- huachimingo 5y agoTime to use the open source alternatives, like MhWaveEdit.
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- kaimorid 5y agoI agree with news cracker, and I would like to know what open source options are available aside from this that would run in a Linux environment.... googling
- gebt 5y agoAudacity was friend of mine for many years. It's a fucking huge loss. To turn on the light, we can create a robot to remove data collectors from the main upstream to release free versions automatically.