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"Gender inclusivity" at tech companies is really a completely different axis than "motherhood or fatherhood friendly". "Parent" is not a protected class (at le

"Gender inclusivity" at tech companies is really a completely different axis than "motherhood or fatherhood friendly". "Parent" is not a protected class (at least, not on Twitter), and it's really not the goal of any FAANG company to encourage their workers to have families. It requires much harder tradeoffs than being "gender diverse".

swiley 5y ago
> it's really not the goal of any FAANG company to encourage their workers to have families. Something that for one reason or another is more popular among younger women than men. This excludes women whether they want to admit it or not.
- biztos 5y ago
  It also seems really self-defeating. Talent attrition is a major problem at any company, and people with kids are way more likely to stick around in their nice comfy jobs, regardless of their gender.
  - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
    Yeah, this is why all the major SV companies give decent paternity/maternity even where not required by law. It's a really cheap way of getting your experienced/older employees to stick around. Having left my FAANG a few years back, the only benefit that I actually miss is the paternity (even though I never had it when I was there).
e12e 5y ago
I think one way to look at the inability/unwillingness for FAANG companies to have any reasonable parental leave policy, is that it's the kind of thing that needs to be regulated by (federal) law. Looking from Norway, it's rediculus to see companies not managing to give a year of parental leave, or something simple like on-campus child care.
- bpodgursky 5y ago
  I mean, a year of employer-paid leave is frankly ridiculous. There needs to be federal support for that kind of benefit. It's not really the parental leave policies (which are often generous). It's the environment around WFH policies and setting up viable career paths for part-time work which is lacking. Ex, if a woman wants to work 20 hours a week instead of being a full-time worker with small children, none of the FAANGs to my knowledge offer a career path that looks like that.
heavyset_go 5y ago
> "Parent" is not a protected class Many states make familial status a protected class in employment, and the FMLA also makes discriminating based on certain family-based factors illegal.

swiley 5y ago

> it's really not the goal of any FAANG company to encourage their workers to have families. Something that for one reason or another is more popular among younger women than men. This excludes women whether they want to admit it or not.

biztos 5y ago
It also seems really self-defeating. Talent attrition is a major problem at any company, and people with kids are way more likely to stick around in their nice comfy jobs, regardless of their gender.
- disgruntledphd2 5y ago
  Yeah, this is why all the major SV companies give decent paternity/maternity even where not required by law. It's a really cheap way of getting your experienced/older employees to stick around. Having left my FAANG a few years back, the only benefit that I actually miss is the paternity (even though I never had it when I was there).

e12e 5y ago

I think one way to look at the inability/unwillingness for FAANG companies to have any reasonable parental leave policy, is that it's the kind of thing that needs to be regulated by (federal) law. Looking from Norway, it's rediculus to see companies not managing to give a year of parental leave, or something simple like on-campus child care.

bpodgursky 5y ago
I mean, a year of employer-paid leave is frankly ridiculous. There needs to be federal support for that kind of benefit. It's not really the parental leave policies (which are often generous). It's the environment around WFH policies and setting up viable career paths for part-time work which is lacking. Ex, if a woman wants to work 20 hours a week instead of being a full-time worker with small children, none of the FAANGs to my knowledge offer a career path that looks like that.

heavyset_go 5y ago

> "Parent" is not a protected class Many states make familial status a protected class in employment, and the FMLA also makes discriminating based on certain family-based factors illegal.