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Last year I remember something similar happening but it was 100% confirmed to only apply to folks who are ineligible to monetize due to not having enough views

by nickjj 5y ago

Last year I remember something similar happening but it was 100% confirmed to only apply to folks who are ineligible to monetize due to not having enough views or subscribers to be in the partnership program so in that case you were making $0 anyways. But it's not clear if this new TOS change affects everyone or only folks not eligible for their partnership program. For example if you're a channel creator who could monetize but chooses to hit no, will YouTube be able to run ads on your videos now? It sounds like a yes based on the TOS wording since it doesn't explicitly mention a type of creator and includes "your" (which is a blanket statement to include everyone). This sounds like it'll affect me directly. I have 12k subs and I've chosen not to run ads on any of my videos because I'd rather someone watch my videos without interrupt even if that means losing out on ad revenue. But moving forward it sounds like I'll enable ads on my videos because if YouTube is going to potentially run ads on them them I might as well benefit from it too. As someone most likely affected by this I'm not really upset at YouTube over it. Hosting and streaming video isn't cheap. Sure I'd prefer not to have ads forced upon watchers of my content but at the same time I can't blame Google for wanting to make money off a platform we're all benefiting from. I've learned so much over the years from various YouTube videos and that mostly comes down to having easy access to find high quality videos. How upset would you be if ads started to appear on a channel that never ran ads? Would you stop watching videos on that channel or do you just run ad blocker anyways?

ALittleLight 5y ago
I have YouTube premium/red/whatever and don't see ads. The natural state of YouTube is unbearable due to the profusion of ads. People watching YouTube either have high tolerance for ads or a method to avoid them.
- saas_sam 5y ago
  One very effective method to avoid ads is to pay for the premium service. $10/month for far more content than any other streaming video service. Can not imagine trying to watch YouTube with ads.
  - jsilence 5y ago
    Another very effective way is to use an adblocker like uBlock origin.
    - saas_sam 5y ago
      Personally I feel that the engineers at YouTube are doing a good job for me and I would like to reward them for that.
      - sofixa 5y ago
        Not to mention the people that worked to create the videos. Both them and the engineers deserve to eat.
        Scoundreller 5y ago
        Well, not anymore for the small publishers. Now they’re subsidizing the big publishers.
        mbirth 5y ago
        Unpopular opinion, but one might argue YouTube was a better place when people did videos out of passion and not to become an "influencer" and get money.
        mardifoufs 5y ago
        That's still the case though. YT is probably the only platform where you can be successful doing very niche without having to sell out or churn out influencer tier content for outreach. The revenue stream is embedded, the audience is huge and channels can be pretty well siloed (as opposed to say, reddit where you can have a niche community either get easily overrun, crossposted etc). Actually the only time I've had "influencer/Drama" type of content was when I chose to watch it, otherwise YouTube is still pretty good at not pushing content you just don't watch at all to your recommendations (Even though the recommendation system is overall awful and I can't believe an army of engineers have actually been working on it for a decade, but I digress)
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  I go a step further and use uBlock Origin to hide all the obnoxious recommendation spam overlays and video thumbnails on the right-hand side of the screen. Except for the one that is on the up-next in auto-play. It's wonderful.
bonzini 5y ago
If interstitial ads (with the profits going to Google) started to appear in the middle of videos I would probably stop using YouTube for everything that requires some concentration to follow. Right now I only subscribe to channels that have ads only at the beginning or the end, but for now that is a choice that creators can make.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  This has already started to happen.
- jabroni_salad 5y ago
  The barrier for that recently lowered from 10m to 8m so expect to see more of them.
  - BitwiseFool 5y ago
    On the bright side, we'll get shorter videos with less padding and fluff to make the 10 minute mark. I guess that's a small consolation prize.
    - falcolas 5y ago
      The blame for that lays with Google as well, since short videos are not present in the most effective discovery channels.
  - bonzini 5y ago
    Some creators only use one interstitial ad per monetized videos independent of the length. However if YouTube added more of them to pad their coffers, that would be quite different.
toper-centage 5y ago
I remember that years ago Bender, the 3D editor, had tutorials on YouTube without ads, but due to the volume of views they were forced to enable adsot sure if that has since changed
- mbirth 5y ago
  They've set up a PeerTube instance and moved their content there: https://video.blender.org/ https://video.blender.org/
everdrive 5y ago
>How upset would you be if ads started to appear on a channel that never ran ads? Would you stop watching videos on that channel or do you just run ad blocker anyways? I would never be upset, but I may stop watching the channel. One thing I've noticed, at least in a few anecdotal cases, is that the format of a channel often changes when they begin seriously to monetize. This is often not necessarily bad, in any objective sense, but nonetheless changes the character of the channel. If you were in love with the channel before, you might say that the channel has become worse. Others might say that the channel has been improved. Regardless how it lands for you, it seems clear that channels without any pressure to monetize do produce somewhat different content than channels with pressure to monetize.

by nickjj 5y ago

ALittleLight 5y ago

I have YouTube premium/red/whatever and don't see ads. The natural state of YouTube is unbearable due to the profusion of ads. People watching YouTube either have high tolerance for ads or a method to avoid them.

saas_sam 5y ago
One very effective method to avoid ads is to pay for the premium service. $10/month for far more content than any other streaming video service. Can not imagine trying to watch YouTube with ads.
- jsilence 5y ago
  Another very effective way is to use an adblocker like uBlock origin.
  - saas_sam 5y ago
    Personally I feel that the engineers at YouTube are doing a good job for me and I would like to reward them for that.
    - sofixa 5y ago
      Not to mention the people that worked to create the videos. Both them and the engineers deserve to eat.
      - Scoundreller 5y ago
        Well, not anymore for the small publishers. Now they’re subsidizing the big publishers.
      - mbirth 5y ago
        Unpopular opinion, but one might argue YouTube was a better place when people did videos out of passion and not to become an "influencer" and get money.
        mardifoufs 5y ago
        That's still the case though. YT is probably the only platform where you can be successful doing very niche without having to sell out or churn out influencer tier content for outreach. The revenue stream is embedded, the audience is huge and channels can be pretty well siloed (as opposed to say, reddit where you can have a niche community either get easily overrun, crossposted etc). Actually the only time I've had "influencer/Drama" type of content was when I chose to watch it, otherwise YouTube is still pretty good at not pushing content you just don't watch at all to your recommendations (Even though the recommendation system is overall awful and I can't believe an army of engineers have actually been working on it for a decade, but I digress)
BitwiseFool 5y ago
I go a step further and use uBlock Origin to hide all the obnoxious recommendation spam overlays and video thumbnails on the right-hand side of the screen. Except for the one that is on the up-next in auto-play. It's wonderful.

bonzini 5y ago

If interstitial ads (with the profits going to Google) started to appear in the middle of videos I would probably stop using YouTube for everything that requires some concentration to follow. Right now I only subscribe to channels that have ads only at the beginning or the end, but for now that is a choice that creators can make.

josephcsible 5y ago
This has already started to happen.
jabroni_salad 5y ago
The barrier for that recently lowered from 10m to 8m so expect to see more of them.
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  On the bright side, we'll get shorter videos with less padding and fluff to make the 10 minute mark. I guess that's a small consolation prize.
  - falcolas 5y ago
    The blame for that lays with Google as well, since short videos are not present in the most effective discovery channels.
- bonzini 5y ago
  Some creators only use one interstitial ad per monetized videos independent of the length. However if YouTube added more of them to pad their coffers, that would be quite different.

toper-centage 5y ago

I remember that years ago Bender, the 3D editor, had tutorials on YouTube without ads, but due to the volume of views they were forced to enable adsot sure if that has since changed

mbirth 5y ago
They've set up a PeerTube instance and moved their content there: https://video.blender.org/ https://video.blender.org/

everdrive 5y ago

>How upset would you be if ads started to appear on a channel that never ran ads? Would you stop watching videos on that channel or do you just run ad blocker anyways? I would never be upset, but I may stop watching the channel. One thing I've noticed, at least in a few anecdotal cases, is that the format of a channel often changes when they begin seriously to monetize. This is often not necessarily bad, in any objective sense, but nonetheless changes the character of the channel. If you were in love with the channel before, you might say that the channel has become worse. Others might say that the channel has been improved. Regardless how it lands for you, it seems clear that channels without any pressure to monetize do produce somewhat different content than channels with pressure to monetize.