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> Shall we fix the roads that we drive on with our own dime too? That's an interesting suggestion given how horrific US infrastructure is. If only they actuall

> Shall we fix the roads that we drive on with our own dime too? That's an interesting suggestion given how horrific US infrastructure is. If only they actually fixed the roads we drive on with the trillions of dimes they already take from us. Let's start with the fact that roads and infrastructure haven't been getting fixed properly for the past 20 to 30 years now despite a massive government expansion in spending and overall size since ~1999. Nearing $8 trillion in total government spending and they can't give us nice infrastructure or fix basic things like roads. California is supposedly awash in a tax revenue surplus of epic scale, and yet their roads and infrastructure are horrific, akin to developing nation conditions across Los Angeles as a matter of routine the past 10-15 years. edit: the downvotes are amusing, given how absolutely atrocious US infrastructure is, and given there is probably nobody left on this planet that doesn't know how bad it is. Every single person reading this knows how bad it is and how poor of a job the US has done at allocating its tax revenue the past several decades. It has been discussed endlessly here on HN for a decade or more, and now I point out that fact of reality and it's unpopular; un huh, sure.

nradov 5y ago
Is the infrastructure in California really atrocious? It doesn't seem so bad compared to many other countries I've visited. Some of the roads that get a lot of heavy truck traffic are a little rough. We haven't had any bridges collapse lately.
Daishiman 5y ago
You get the downvotes when you compare California's infrastructure to the Third World. Sure, Germany and the Netherlands have excellent infra. Do you know what's "third world" infrastructure like? It's not having potable water. It's cities of 50K people with mostly dirt roads. It's highways with potholes literally bigger than mortar craters.
- medium_burrito 5y ago
  Much of the US infrastructure is complete shit. Sure, it's not Somalia, but the fact we are even having the comparison is ridiculous. We do have rolling blackout on occasion. We do have non potable water on occasion. We have completely fucked up roads and failing bridges. We don't have underground powerlines in most places.
aaalexxjjamess 5y ago
The shoddy state of US infrastructure does not condemn the entire system of taxation into the dustbin of history. Perhaps it condemns the US's way of taxation, which I agree with.

nradov 5y ago

Is the infrastructure in California really atrocious? It doesn't seem so bad compared to many other countries I've visited. Some of the roads that get a lot of heavy truck traffic are a little rough. We haven't had any bridges collapse lately.

Daishiman 5y ago

You get the downvotes when you compare California's infrastructure to the Third World. Sure, Germany and the Netherlands have excellent infra. Do you know what's "third world" infrastructure like? It's not having potable water. It's cities of 50K people with mostly dirt roads. It's highways with potholes literally bigger than mortar craters.

medium_burrito 5y ago
Much of the US infrastructure is complete shit. Sure, it's not Somalia, but the fact we are even having the comparison is ridiculous. We do have rolling blackout on occasion. We do have non potable water on occasion. We have completely fucked up roads and failing bridges. We don't have underground powerlines in most places.

aaalexxjjamess 5y ago

The shoddy state of US infrastructure does not condemn the entire system of taxation into the dustbin of history. Perhaps it condemns the US's way of taxation, which I agree with.