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Magic Mushrooms Are Decriminalized in DC as of Today
- batmaniam 6y agoI think this is great news, and I hope other states will follow. But it's a bit troublesome that it took a wealthy executive to get this anywhere politically, even after years of safe-use research and its prevalence as medical treatments: > David Bronner, the top executive at Dr. Bronner’s soap company, helped bankroll the campaign, which had to overcome pandemic restrictions to gather signatures and get on the ballot last fall.
- hahajk 6y agoDavid Bronner has a history of pro-drug activism, including planting hemp in the DEA headquarters. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/david-bronner-cannabis-activist-of-the-year https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/david-bronner-...
- dekhn 6y agoare you sure he's a wealthy executive? and if they are, the bronners totally deserve it. Dilute dilute OK!
- Zhenya 6y agoIn case folks are wondering, it's not some german brand. Founder escaped holocaust by leaving as the nazi party rose to power -. Parents stayed behind and became victims of the third reichs death death machinery.
- throwanem 6y agoJust to mention, they aren't kidding about the "dilute" part. I'm not saying how I know, but if you won't take their word for it, you'd be well advised to take mine.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoDepends on application. Undiluted in small quantities it's an excellent shampoo/conditioner substitute.
- throwanem 6y agoReally? I'd expect it to strip out all the oils, and leave behind dry hair with more of a need for conditioner than it had going in.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoQuite the opposite! At least the one I use regularly, tea tree & hemp oil, has a moisturizing quality and leaves my hair (if it's not shaved) and my beard feeling healthier. I also only wash hair/beard twice a week (any product is harmful to hair on a daily basis).
- throwanem 6y agoInteresting! As I recall, that was the same one that motivated my advice above. Maybe something about the tea tree oil, I thought, but I was strongly disinclined to further experiment.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoIt’s entirely possible we just have very different skin/hair/body chemistry and react very differently to it! Let this be a disclaimer to anyone reading the thread above: it might affect you differently!
- vulcan01 6y ago> any product is harmful to hair on a daily basis Wait, really? I shower twice a day... is water fine? How do you keep your hair clean?
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- ElijahLynn 6y agoYeah, can't believe it took this long, considering it's potential in treating PTSD. e.g. https://www.insider.com/army-vet-with-ptsd-magic-mushrooms-prevent-substance-abuse-2020-11 https://www.insider.com/army-vet-with-ptsd-magic-mushrooms-p... https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/ https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/johns-hopkins-scientists-give-psychedelics-the-serious-treatment/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/johns-hopkins-sci...
- Alex3917 6y agoDr. Bronner’s only exists as a result of the Holocaust, so the connection isn’t exactly lost here.
- etrautmann 6y agoCan you expand on this?
- Judgmentality 6y agoThe founder's family was murdered during the holocaust, and he escaped and started the Dr. Bronner's soap company. https://www.drbronner.com/about/ourselves/the-dr-bronners-story/ https://www.drbronner.com/about/ourselves/the-dr-bronners-st...
- sologoub 6y agoLooks like the founder managed to escape Holocaust, but his relatives perished: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Bronner%27s_Magic_Soaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Bronner%27s_Magic_Soaps
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- AdamJacobMuller 6y ago> David Bronner, the top executive at Dr. Bronner’s soap company He might be a wealthy executive, but, you're going to have an extraordinarily hard time convincing me that he's anything but the exact opposite of the caricature of a "wealthy executive" Dr. Bronner’s is an amazing company with an amazing product. They also source some of their oil from a small fair trade olive producing cooperative in palestine[1] which I was fortunate enough to visit in 2019. The people there couldn't say enough about how Dr Bronners had saved their coop and the Palestinian olive industry. Amazing people all around and the smells of a olive oil factory producing fresh olive oil are burned into my brain now! [1] https://www.drbronner.com/all-one-blog/2017/05/growing-hope-holy-land/ https://www.drbronner.com/all-one-blog/2017/05/growing-hope-...
- sharkweek 6y agoBronner fan for life - they got me hooked when I found myself spending 15 minutes in the grocery store reading the entire label. IF CAP CLOGS, POKE IT! OKAY!!
- Judgmentality 6y agoCan you imagine a marketing company ever approving a label like that? And it's so distinct, effective, and memorable.
- inakarmacoma 6y agoWell, memorable might be a bit debatable. It would make one impressive slam poetry performance to memorize. Distinctive, though, for sure.
- sharkweek 6y agoIt's such beautiful organic (* rimshot *) branding
- TylerE 6y agoI can actually. There was a whole fad of anti-marketing marketing for a while. Burt's Bees pushed that hard for a long time (and they are actually VERY corporate...there is a docu basically all about how the actual Burt got screwed in the whole deal)
- de6u99er 6y agoI remember vaguely New Yeqrs eve 2000 in Amsterdam. I want to spare you the details. What I actually wanted to say is, that MMs are not allowed for sale any more in Amsterdam. Thinking again of Y2K, I would suggest to not allow them to be sold to drunk customers.
- brokenmachine 6y agoAny English-language descriptions of the incident and reactions?
- driton 6y agoI am unsure if this is the incident that they are referring to, however a teenager died in 2007 after jumping off a bridge while under influence[0]. As per the article, that was the catalyst for getting hallucinogenic mushrooms banned. 0: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dutch-mushroom-idUSTRE4AR32R20081128 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dutch-mushroom-idUSTRE4AR...
- brokenmachine 6y agoThanks. Imagine the outrage if alcohol caused the death of a single person... Oh, wait. In my high school someone literally did get drunk and die from jumping off a bridge. Astonishingly Australia didn't ban beer after that.
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- pdamoc 6y agoTim Ferriss is responsible for a large amount of studies on the effect of psilocybin on depression. I think he invested something like $2M in research.
- nuker 6y ago> I think this is great news Should we add heroin there too? I mean, whats the red line? Or there should not be any? For medical uses it can be prescribed, by doctor.
- andrewxdiamond 6y ago> after years of safe-use research and its prevalence as medical treatments
- nuker 6y agoYep, doctors can prescribe it, with fixed quantity/time.
- andrewxdiamond 6y ago“Safe use” being the important term. It refers to the lack of any lethal or physically damaging effects, as proven by numerous studies. No one has ever died from psilocybin. Heroin is not at all safe, as you are aware. It is perfectly capable of killing.
- heroprotagonist 6y agoI think we definitely need a new approach to dealing with drugs and addiction. We spend a ridiculous amount on incarceration, per inmate. Federally it's above $37k per year as of 2018 [1], and states averaged over $33k in 2015 [2]. That's excluding the cost of policing the drug war, lost taxation on illicit goods, state-funded medical and wage impact of addiction, or the lost consumer impact to the economy of those incarcerated or under addiction. Ultimately drug addiction is a health and social issue. Treating it as a criminal issue has not significantly helped the problem. We can hamper black markets through legalization and regulation while reducing significant costs across a wide array of categories. But I don't think we should simply legalize and be done with it, as that'd be dangerous. We need to shift the money we're already ineffectually spending. Put it into research, therapy, and the infrastructure surrounding regulation. Maybe mandated counseling to the addicted, once supply is more effectively monitored and controlled. We need to focus on positive outcomes for individuals. Incarceration generally only pushes people into a spiral of continued negative outcomes. [1] https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/11/19/2019-24942/annual-determination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration-fee-coif https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/11/19/2019-24... [2] https://www.vera.org/publications/price-of-prisons-2015-state-spending-trends/price-of-prisons-2015-state-spending-trends/price-of-prisons-2015-state-spending-trends-prison-spending https://www.vera.org/publications/price-of-prisons-2015-stat...
- mgarfias 6y agoI still dunno where to get some here in Oregon.
- f430 6y agoI see. In Vancouver it's literally just a click away all online. It's illegal but no enforcement is taken.
- spaetzleesser 6y agoIt's quite easy and a lot of fun to grow them yourself. I think growing yourself also gives you a better connection to the mushrooms.
- pugworthy 6y agoKind of odd isn't it - I mean to have something so available but not.
- mgarfias 6y agoI’m a recluse, I live in the country and hardly ever leave the house. It’d probably be different if I lived in pdx
- Moodles 6y agoI’ve taken mushrooms quite a few times. With a light dose, it’s just been mild, being silly and giggling at colors and nature. Pleasant, but just kind of a fun drug honestly. With a moderate dose, you tend to be introspective and consider your own life and relationships in different ways. Feels like therapy to be honest. Hard work. Emotionally draining. There’s usually a lesson at the end. Overall it is good for me and makes me a better, more empathetic person. With higher doses in a so-called bad trip, it’s sometimes been just extremely confusing and not at all fun, to the extent that I’d forget my own name or what I’ve taken and basically just all memories. It’s very frustrating to be in that state, constantly trying not to fly away but not able to ground yourself. It’s a little disturbing, but not horrific. I think the reason for this is that I am afraid to lose my ego, or die, and I would actually benefit from a slightly higher dose so I'm unable to resist. With really high doses though, it’s been a truly beautiful, enlightening experience. I still think of it sometimes. It’s very difficult to really explain in words, but it feels like kind of extreme empathy with all life. Buddhists would call it going egoless. I just felt very at peace: we all live, we all die, and it’s all okay. I’m not particularly religious or spiritual at all but that experience really changed me. It feels like life is in all these different forms, and you just happen to be one particular variation of it, but you could easily be any other living thing, so you just feel love and empathy for all life. And you know it’s finite and you’re not afraid of death. I would still attempt to avoid death, but I was just at peace with it if it was inevitable. Also, when you come back to reality you’re utterly, utterly convinced that you’ve experienced something profound, possibly, despite all your rationality, there’s a message form god inside this mushroom. It's so strange coming back, because you have to repiece together your life: "I am... a human... I live in a city called San Francisco... I am an engineer...". It’s almost like the mushroom is laughing at you: “good luck going back to your normal life now.” You’re left with “wow? That was that?!” It’s annoying honestly, because I’m not religious at all and I know it sounds crazy to even say that out loud. Of course, that feeling does slowly fade away like a distance dream or memory. I think in general mushrooms strip away your individual sense of self and zoom out your perspective, which is why with a small dose you consider your relationships and with a larger dose you can sometimes get scared because you lose your sense of self but you're still trying to cling on. But with an even larger dose (obviously it's not necessarily the dose, but it's a rough correlation) you blast through even further, and the distinction between you and everything else melts away, which is a truly profound spiritual experience. In all cases though, seeing fractals and cool stuff is very unimportant. A great story it reminds me of is “The Egg” by Andy Weir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI
- mooneater 6y ago“Unite the whole Human Race! For we’re All-One or None! … Exceptions eternally? Absolute None!” --Dr. Bronner's philosophy in his soap labels
- sneak 6y agoReminder: Possession of psilocybin or psilocybin-containing substances such as magic mushrooms remain a felony in all 50 US states, just like possession of marijuana. They may not be enforcing it, but it's still a federal felony, and they are free to (as well as within their legal rights to) enforce it at any time, for any arbitrary reason. If you choose to openly commit US federal felonies, you should be aware that it is entirely legal for the US to choose to enforce those laws against you on the basis of entirely unrelated reasons: race, political alignment, sexual orientation, gender identity, hair color, words on your t-shirt, protected expression, articles published, opinions expressed at a conference, investigative journalism, et c. They would be entirely within their rights to seek and obtain a search warrant for your property: your office, your residence, including all computers and data, as a result of your open violation of federal law. (They oftentimes after a search warrant keep all hardware that contains any data whatsoever for months or years, and even getting it back at all can entail a months-long, five figure legal battle that you'll have to pay for up front.) The reasons the AUSA chose you to prosecute will not be relevant to the trial, which will concern itself only with whether or not you possessed a schedule 1 substance, which is (again) a felony that may carry jail time. When you choose to ignore US federal controlled substance laws due to state or regional decriminalization efforts, you effectively waive your 1A, 2A, and 4A civil rights.
- wavefunction 6y agoSounds very scary. fnord
- elil17 6y agoThat’s not quite true about medical cannabis (totally true about psilocybin and recreational though) - the Rohrabacher–Farr amendment (which has been upheld by courts) prevents the US from prosecuting medical cannabis users. I also don’t really get what you mean by saying that you waive your 1a and 4a rights (2a of course is pretty clear cut, although I’d say you’re being denied your rights more than that you’ve waived them)
- sneak 6y agoIf you openly commit a federal felony that is widely unenforced, the state can choose to enforce it against you on the basis of the content of your protected expression, journalism, or religion, meaning that you don't actually have freedom of expression/press/religion in practice. This happened to Rover Ver; he did time in federal prison for criticizing excessively violent federal agents during a talk he gave at a conference. Other agents from that agency present at his conference talk were pissed off and found some unrelated legitimate violations of federal law to have him charged under. If you are openly committing federal felonies this won't even take them the 24h it took them in Roger's case. Same with 4A: if they want to toss your house or rob you of all your computers and all of your backups, and you've openly admitted to possession of schedule 1 things, a search warrant on that basis alone is a foregone conclusion, as it is obvious you are breaking the law.
- hnrodey 6y agoPsychedelics are a different game. I’m still not sure if I’m for or against these movements. Nonetheless, I think anyone who wants to vote on the issues around psychedelics should have to first go through a bad trip. There’s nothing I can write that can allow you to fully understand what it means to have a good trip, or a bad one. I repeat, you’re playing a different game with this stuff. edit: lol downvotes edit2: The best advice I ever received about tripping is that "the trip always ends".
- anm89 6y agoWhat does that have to do with whether we should incarcerate people in small metal cages for possession?
- vmception 6y agoWhich is why recreationally regulated is a more desirable outcome than decriminalized. At the bare minimum this stuff needs the whole supply chain to be stable for consumer protection. Decriminalized doesn't do that.
- TaylorAlexander 6y agoFor real. It’s amazing what legalization has done for the marijuana market in California. I don’t use concentrates but it does seem reassuring that their production is highly regulated here. The packages you buy have all kinds of labels with testing information. It really feels like you know what you’re getting. Compared to unregulated purchases where a concentrate can be some brown or yellow goo and you don’t truly know what you’re getting. I’m not normally in favor of state control and I’d like to see California relax some control here over time, but for a new product on the market it is kind of reassuring seeing the chain of testing and reporting that seems to be required here.
- vmception 6y agoYeah I'm sure dispensary licensing, county-level prohibitions, as well as growers licensing is all sorts of messed up. Every state seems to be caught in some kind of greedy protectionist cronyism in that regard, and this won't be fixed unless the federal government legalizes. States are also not equipped to have an FDA level of review to create studies. But outside of the west-coast, a lot of states seem to have less-blanked recreational legalization, like they legalize some molecular compounds while prohibiting others and certain strains. Would definitely like to see standardization and just simply treating this stuff as any drug that comes with normal disclaimers and lists of side effects. I just hate all the anecdotes right now.
- marakv2 6y agoEvery change in America requires someone wealthy. If your poor or not white, your voice has no traction. This is from an outsider, but after all those months of BLM protests, what changed?
- dundercoder 6y agoI would argue that functionally the US behaves more like a plutocracy, in which money matters an order of magnitude more than race or any other factor.
- astrange 6y agoThis was somewhat true 10 years ago (maybe even 5) but if you pay attention to things recently the moneyed interests have been 1. left-wing (because of Actblue and Bernie fans donating $25) 2. losing (Steyer, Bloomberg, every non-Trumpist Republican) or 3. both (Bernie, Amy McGrath). The guy who just won the presidency had the worst fundraising and spent the least. What actually happens in the US is that rural and elderly middle-class voters control everything, and they mostly want entertaining culture war and no policy changes. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/david-shor-cancel-culture-2020-election-theory-polls.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/david-shor-cancel-cu... Democratic donors are more left-wing than voters: https://twitter.com/dbroockman/status/1254924463952388097 https://twitter.com/dbroockman/status/1254924463952388097
- dillondoyle 6y agoto be fair issues/petitioned amendments are very much money pays. It's pretty expensive to get signatures to get on ballot. Lots of states have rules like getting _% in each local HD or whatever. And then the money spent on persuasion. Uber recently in CA comes to mind. Kind of beautiful in its blunt honesty; a legal method for corporations having a good chance of changing the law specifically how they want without having to deal with those pesky lawmakers. Of course citizens can do it too! We got decriminalized mushrooms here in denver because of it!
- Covzire 6y agoPersonally I don't believe any naturally occurring plant, animal or fungi should be on schedule 1.
- OscarCunningham 6y agoThe description 'natural' is debatable, since things can be bred to increase their potency.
- elwell 6y agoDoes ricin count as natural?
- freshpots 6y agoRicin is not a plant. It is a chemical produced by the Castor Bean plant which is widely grown in gardens.
- Covzire 6y agoNote I didn't say "should be completely unscheduled". Schedule 1 is extremely strict to the point of making medical research virtually impossible. We've known there are major medical benefits to many substances on schedule 1 for decades now, yet the government definition still declares them the opposite, which at the very least is a lie.
- _0qft 6y agoI would only take them for therapeutic purposes. I'm already on anti depressants. I'm really not convinced mushrooms would genuinely help. Psychiatrists are really not fan of those things, they are considered neurotoxic. It's weird how often people talk about those drugs. They are still studying them to treat some specific things like PTSD, alcoholism... Yet here, people seem to believe it can treat other things as well. I'm sorry but I would rather let professionals do their work. If you're into recreative drugs, fine, but don't advocate for drugs under a scientific premise and pretend it's a cure for other things. That's not how science works.
- arunc 6y agoSince you mentioned anti-depressants, I would recommend listening to this podcast by Dr. Caroline Leaf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4DeCV31YY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4DeCV31YY Hope this helps someone.
- pixel_tracing 6y agoThis is extremely inappropriate, some people need the medication or else will end up making bad life decisions resulting in dire consequences for them.
- _0qft 6y agoShe is not a physician, she had phd in psychology or other soft sciences. I have no trouble with this, but this sounds like another one of those life coachs. Ew.
- KuiN 6y agoWow, so I can drop the regimen of drugs my psychiatry team have developed over the course of a decade that made me able to function despite my extremely complex mental health needs. All I have to do is train myself to think thoughts that alter the gravitational field in my brain which will change my brain's immune system and I'll no longer be affected by fake disease? I'm sure some of her many books will help me. Actively harmful psuedo-science crap. I'm astonished to see this being peddled on Hacker News. You should be disgusted with yourself.
- ceceron 6y agoI won't pretend to be an expert in the matter and, therefore, I won't share any opinion whether magic mushrooms should be legal or not. What bothers me is the way people argue about such problems. The common argument goes like this: --- 1) alcohol is as bad (worse than?) as X 2) alcohol is legal therefore per analogiam: 3) X should be legal. --- I'm fine with this reasoning, but one could also reverse the argument: --- 1') X is bad as alcohol 2') X is illegal therefore per analogiam: 3') alcohol should be illegal. --- Both stances are consistent and depend on other views. I believe the discussion should rather focus on the role of the law in the public life. Maybe "everything should be legal", but with some age clauses / agreement of a medical doctor? Maybe the law should be replaced with other measures? What really saddens me though is when people advertise recreational use of possibly dangerous substances. It applies to all kinds of recreational drugs. There always will be person claiming that X solves problems/takes your conscience to next level/cure COVID/whatever. In case somebody attacks their stance, saying there is no valid research on the topic (but rather other way around), they will tell you of a conspiracy in the research community/government funding/whatever. Even if there is such a conspiracy, it doesn't validate the argument. Please don't advice people to take drugs (or drink alcohol BTW), even if they work for you.
- JacobSuperslav 6y agonot advising just sharing my opinion that it's super refreshing to get out of reality using LSD/shrooms once every 2-3 months. Been doing this for years and noticing much less side effects than with alcohol/cigarettes. everybody is different though.
- o_p 6y agoAh but you forgot the key premise: Alcohol cannot be illegal
- maccard 6y agoThe problem with the reverse argument is that that cat is out of the bag now. We've tried banning alcohol in the west, and it's not gone down too well in the past.
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- octocop 6y agoPsychedelics should be ingested by people who search for it. It should not be possible to take it accidentally.
- renewiltord 6y agoWe do forget that medicine is a 20th century science. Even for most of the 1900s, doctors were performing wholly unscientific and unethical things. They still barely know anything. Medical science with proper epistemology is young, perhaps younger than the advent of modern computer science. So there's lots of stuff that's just grandfathered. And because very little modern medicine has the ambition to try real novelty, we never retest the grandfathered taboos.
- RugnirViking 6y agodebateably, doctors still perform unscientific and unethic things to this day. See: electroshock therapy (basically our new form of lobotomy). Deliberately causing brain damage to "fix" mental illness, with almost certain loss of memory, and ability to form new memories. Or the creeping use of of chiropractors for things other than back pain, despite evidence of it's potential for harm. Or mandatory insertion of IUDs in china to control the birth rate. I am sure other therapies too, in time will be found to be extremely poor, especially in psychology and psychotherapy, where trials are extremely complicated , and common medicines have awful issues and <50% effecacy (see: antidepressants having permanent side effects even after cessation of treatment)
- Metacelsus 6y agoAs I understand it, electroshock therapy is never performed without consent and has special restrictions to make absolutely sure of this. Patients are anesthetized during the procedure to avoid pain. Yes it has side effects, but it is a last resort for treatment of severe depression that would otherwise ruin the patient's life.
- DataGata 6y agoI don't see why you're lumping in IUDs with electroshock therapy and chiropractors? Sure, the CCP is awful and has awful policies, but IUDs are strong indicators of a healthy healthcare system elsewhere.
- joquarky 6y ago> Or the creeping use of of chiropractors for things other than back pain, despite evidence of it's potential for harm. Any grey market solutions will become more ubiquitous as standard health care costs continue to skyrocket. I would expect to see more of this.
- gnzoidberg 6y agoSoo... where do I get some?
- cyberlab 6y agoMagic Mushrooms were legal in Ireland[0] for a brief stint, then someone jumped over a balcony and died from the fall after taking them, presumably after experiencing a really bad trip. It could happen again in DC. Someone just gets the set and setting wrong and decides they can't take the mental turmoil and ends their life. [0] https://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/how-tragedy-led-family-to-crusade-for-ban-on-magic-mushrooms-26408051.html https://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/how-tragedy-led-...
- __s 6y agoWhile we're at it can we ban alcohol on account of one person having gotten into a deadly car accident under the influence? If we're keeping this to balcony incidents, I had to be pulled from being half way over a 16th floor balcony a decade ago after making some drunk rant I hardly remember Let's also ban chess on account of Urii Eliseev Maybe we should just ban balconies
- CapmCrackaWaka 6y agoAlcohol is a bad example to compare vices too. It is definitely a very dangerous substance, nobody argues that, but it is so ingrained in many countries cultures that outlawing it would be political suicide. In fact, it was already attempted in America, we saw how that went. Prohibition didn't fail because alcohol is actually a 'safe' substance, it failed because it is addictive and people wanted it back. Allowing other substances to gain this status should be done with _extreme_ consideration. Disclaimer: I think psychedelic's do have valid medicinal uses, but I have also had a very bad mushroom trip before, I know what they can do to your brain. My personality was forever changed.
- __s 6y agoI don't think making drugs illegal has really made their availability difficult, but I went to a highschool where drugs were pretty readily available if that's what someone was looking for. So to me it looks like tax income & supply chain regulation being left on the table
- eli 6y agoI support the move but the headline is kind of misleading. The ballot initiative was limited to directing the police chief to make these crimes the "lowest priority" but they are still just as illegal as before and carry the same penalties. I'm not even sure this directive is binding. As the mayor (who did not particularly support the measure) pointed out, it's not like this was a high priority to begin with. A proper decriminalization or perhaps even legalization would have passed, but DC citizens lack the same rights over their own local laws that any other American living in a state would enjoy. DC deserves statehood.
- fennecfoxen 6y ago> DC deserves statehood. The state is named Maryland; it's called "retrocession." It already happened before, with the Virginia side of DC. What? This is no good? Well, some people prefer the naked power-grab version, I suppose.
- eli 6y agoWell, among other problems with that idea: neither DC nor Maryland wants it and there is no mechanism to force Maryland to alter its borders against its will. It is not a power grab to give the citizens of DC the same rights as other Americans, it is correcting an injustice. If your concern is about DC then having too much power, I'd encourage you to look at the actual plan which preserves a core federal district that includes Congress and the Mall.
- fennecfoxen 6y agoHow noble, selfless, righteous and pure, for the political party which has just taken power with the narrowest of margins to suddenly take interest in "correcting an injustice" in a manner that secures additional power! Puerto Rico statehood will certainly be next; then, perhaps we can demand justice for cities like, say, Austin, on the premise that their citizens' representation is diluted by sharing senators with the rest of Texas. Don't worry, we know what it's about <3
- bamboozled 6y agoWhy on earth were mushrooms ever made illegal in the first place?
- gverrilla 6y agoWho lobbied for this? Churches? I heard there's a lot of booming psychedelic churches on US.
- Fjolsvith 6y agoDC is so screwed. https://theamericanstatesassembly.net/notice https://theamericanstatesassembly.net/notice