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By Springtime (in 45-60 days) we'll be at the one year mark, fatigued by masks, rules, shutdowns, and authoritarians, in general. The news will be tedious abou

By Springtime (in 45-60 days) we'll be at the one year mark, fatigued by masks, rules, shutdowns, and authoritarians, in general. The news will be tedious about how many are being vaccinated (it will be a lot) -- and, the weather will turn warmer. Then, many/most will say _fuck it_, I'm taking my life back. I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it.

HarryHirsch 6y ago
I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it Are you into apocalypses? There's the British quick-spreading strain, and there are the Brazilian and South African variants that the vaccine does not offer good protection against. I predict that COVID will be like Picardy Fever, not like the Spanish Flu - there will be outbreaks every few years here and there.
- artificialLimbs 6y ago
  Gotta watch out for those 99% survival rate apocalypses. They'll getcha.
- meddlepal 6y ago
  The apocalypse scenario is unlikely with the population having some resistance to the virus after vaccination even if new variants possibly render the vaccine less effective. We obviously do not have enough data yet to understand the vaccine's efficacy against these new strains but a lot of scientists are saying it will be "good enough" while we work on vaccines to handle the variants. If this thing can basically be treated no differently than the common cold once vaccinated by most people and in the outliers something a little worse there will be no popular support to continue draconian lock down measures. The goal is to stop the bleeding. The patient is on the floor right now and haemorrhaging liters blood. We want to stabilize the patient and let them get on with their life as quickly as possible. We cannot let perfect be the enemy of "Good Enough" here.
  - midasuni 6y ago
    Agreed. Hospital overflows is the main issue - and we know that things are far worse in winter than in summer. Come May things will be heading back to normal, and hospital collapse won’t be the concern it was this year come next October due to widespread vaccination. At least in the west, global logistics of vaccination seem to have collapsed. We need to, as a species, get on top of vaccine rollout for next time. It’s delayed at the moment because we didn’t make enough vials over summer FFS.
- wernercd 6y ago
  > there's strains And? The world doesn't end when new strains of the cold or the flu happen. Every year. As it's happened for as long as there have been humans. Humans have "eradicated"... Polio? Because it's rather serious? What else have we eradicated? COVID is here to stay.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    Global eradication of diseases is very hard, because there are lots of areas that don’t have much money or government capacity to dedicate to disease control. Developed countries have brought quite a few diseases to near-extinction within their borders; tuberculosis is the obvious comparison, given the similarity in symptoms, transmissibility, and vaccine efficacy.
    - giantDinosaur 6y ago
      You'd be surprised with respect to tuberculosis. We use a vaccine developed 100 years ago, a vaccine which actually doesn't really work in adults (and immunity from the vaccine gets lost by adulthood), and antibiotic resistant strains are only becoming more prevalent. https://theconversation.com/tuberculosis-kills-as-many-people-each-year-as-covid-19-its-time-we-found-a-better-vaccine-151590 https://theconversation.com/tuberculosis-kills-as-many-peopl...
  - graeme 6y ago
    Smallpox. Polio isn’t actually eradicated but almost is. However, in the US a lot of diseases were eradicated locally. Malaria used to be endemic, and tuberculosis. There’s also a list here: Diptheria, Mump, Measles, Rubella Some have made small comebacks due to anti-vaxxer sentiment, but eradication certainly isn’t some impossible goal. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/6-diseases-the-u-s-eliminated-thanks-to-vaccines.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/6-diseases-the...
monadic3 6y ago
Haha fuck all of us who can't access the vaccine, I guess. I'm trying to imagine celebrating the spread of a virus because it makes your life mildly more convenient and it makes my stomach turn.
T-hawk 6y ago
I said "fuck it, I'm taking my life back" months ago. And then I realized how little that is possible. How are you going to protest your way into a concert that isn't performing? How are you going to demand your way into a university that isn't teaching? How are you going to riot your way into a Disneyland that isn't running? How are you going to force your way into a sports stadium that isn't playing? How are you going to disobey your way onto a cruise ship that isn't sailing? We are much more at the whim of our authoritarian overlords destroying everything joyful in life than we ever realized. We are no longer ever allowed to make personal risk management decisions.
- hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
  Sorry if your government cares more about your peers’ health than your entertainment values. Thoughts and prayers.
  - deathgrips 6y ago
    Why are you scared? Just wear a mask :)
  - loveistheanswer 6y ago
    It clearly doesn't though. Obesity and heart disease have been killing far more people in the US than covid and yet Mcdonalds and Coke advertisements are everywhere inbetween television entertainment. Also note obesity/heart disease are among the greatest risk factors of poor health outcomes for covid. Why is there little to no mention of eating healthy and exercising in the government's health guidelines to combat this threat? There are countless other examples of bureaucrats caring more about money and power than public health - while putting on the appearance of caring for public health. See also: the war on drugs.
    - hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
      Overeating and poor exercise only hurts yourself. The difference is that you going to a concert, contracting corona and passing it around our household/workplace may kill somebody completely unrelated to the initial risk vector, how would you feel if your neighbour eating McDonald’s directly affected your health?

HarryHirsch 6y ago

I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it Are you into apocalypses? There's the British quick-spreading strain, and there are the Brazilian and South African variants that the vaccine does not offer good protection against. I predict that COVID will be like Picardy Fever, not like the Spanish Flu - there will be outbreaks every few years here and there.

artificialLimbs 6y ago
Gotta watch out for those 99% survival rate apocalypses. They'll getcha.
meddlepal 6y ago
The apocalypse scenario is unlikely with the population having some resistance to the virus after vaccination even if new variants possibly render the vaccine less effective. We obviously do not have enough data yet to understand the vaccine's efficacy against these new strains but a lot of scientists are saying it will be "good enough" while we work on vaccines to handle the variants. If this thing can basically be treated no differently than the common cold once vaccinated by most people and in the outliers something a little worse there will be no popular support to continue draconian lock down measures. The goal is to stop the bleeding. The patient is on the floor right now and haemorrhaging liters blood. We want to stabilize the patient and let them get on with their life as quickly as possible. We cannot let perfect be the enemy of "Good Enough" here.
- midasuni 6y ago
  Agreed. Hospital overflows is the main issue - and we know that things are far worse in winter than in summer. Come May things will be heading back to normal, and hospital collapse won’t be the concern it was this year come next October due to widespread vaccination. At least in the west, global logistics of vaccination seem to have collapsed. We need to, as a species, get on top of vaccine rollout for next time. It’s delayed at the moment because we didn’t make enough vials over summer FFS.
wernercd 6y ago
> there's strains And? The world doesn't end when new strains of the cold or the flu happen. Every year. As it's happened for as long as there have been humans. Humans have "eradicated"... Polio? Because it's rather serious? What else have we eradicated? COVID is here to stay.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  Global eradication of diseases is very hard, because there are lots of areas that don’t have much money or government capacity to dedicate to disease control. Developed countries have brought quite a few diseases to near-extinction within their borders; tuberculosis is the obvious comparison, given the similarity in symptoms, transmissibility, and vaccine efficacy.
  - giantDinosaur 6y ago
    You'd be surprised with respect to tuberculosis. We use a vaccine developed 100 years ago, a vaccine which actually doesn't really work in adults (and immunity from the vaccine gets lost by adulthood), and antibiotic resistant strains are only becoming more prevalent. https://theconversation.com/tuberculosis-kills-as-many-people-each-year-as-covid-19-its-time-we-found-a-better-vaccine-151590 https://theconversation.com/tuberculosis-kills-as-many-peopl...
- graeme 6y ago
  Smallpox. Polio isn’t actually eradicated but almost is. However, in the US a lot of diseases were eradicated locally. Malaria used to be endemic, and tuberculosis. There’s also a list here: Diptheria, Mump, Measles, Rubella Some have made small comebacks due to anti-vaxxer sentiment, but eradication certainly isn’t some impossible goal. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/6-diseases-the-u-s-eliminated-thanks-to-vaccines.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/6-diseases-the...

monadic3 6y ago

Haha fuck all of us who can't access the vaccine, I guess. I'm trying to imagine celebrating the spread of a virus because it makes your life mildly more convenient and it makes my stomach turn.

T-hawk 6y ago

I said "fuck it, I'm taking my life back" months ago. And then I realized how little that is possible. How are you going to protest your way into a concert that isn't performing? How are you going to demand your way into a university that isn't teaching? How are you going to riot your way into a Disneyland that isn't running? How are you going to force your way into a sports stadium that isn't playing? How are you going to disobey your way onto a cruise ship that isn't sailing? We are much more at the whim of our authoritarian overlords destroying everything joyful in life than we ever realized. We are no longer ever allowed to make personal risk management decisions.

hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
Sorry if your government cares more about your peers’ health than your entertainment values. Thoughts and prayers.
- deathgrips 6y ago
  Why are you scared? Just wear a mask :)
- loveistheanswer 6y ago
  It clearly doesn't though. Obesity and heart disease have been killing far more people in the US than covid and yet Mcdonalds and Coke advertisements are everywhere inbetween television entertainment. Also note obesity/heart disease are among the greatest risk factors of poor health outcomes for covid. Why is there little to no mention of eating healthy and exercising in the government's health guidelines to combat this threat? There are countless other examples of bureaucrats caring more about money and power than public health - while putting on the appearance of caring for public health. See also: the war on drugs.
  - hsbauauvhabzb 6y ago
    Overeating and poor exercise only hurts yourself. The difference is that you going to a concert, contracting corona and passing it around our household/workplace may kill somebody completely unrelated to the initial risk vector, how would you feel if your neighbour eating McDonald’s directly affected your health?