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How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?
- aequitas 6y ago> The father of the first user, who while everyone was discussing, went to the shop and bought the cheapest lightbulb. Of course it doesn't end there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0 (lightbulb scene from Malcolm in the Middle).
- csunbird 6y agoI think the term for that is "Shaving the Yak" https://seths.blog/2005/03/dont_shave_that/ https://seths.blog/2005/03/dont_shave_that/ (I am not associated with this site)
- spzb 6y agoI’m going to work that into every conversation I can now. My workplace is theoretically involved in supplying IT functions to a university but mainly seems to employ an army of yak shavers.
- 495636483 6y agoI like the term "Yak shaving", however the story told was quite anticlimactic. Yak at a zoo? Really? Why not go all the way to Tibet. (Acknowledging the exclusive western perspective here. I fail to think of an analogy for the west...) There is an opportunity missed pointing out the ignored complexity of related implied conditionals (like flying across the globe), which were consequently not exploded onto the described stack. That is, within the narrative. Missed, because the scope of conditional complexity is pretty much arbitrary (point in the reader's resonance); "importance" is mostly a matter of subjective perception merely experienced as rational thoughts. Every egosyntonic thought is experienced as rational. Internal task prioritization is part of executive functioning and e.g. broken in ADHD (everything feels important). However, it's perceived as consistent with the internal model of reality and not foreign (aka egosyntonic; "rational") no matter the expression and functional applicability. There is the problem. It's not a question of better thinking or simple rules for analysing a problem, it's a problem asking for an hypervisor, who cares about time management/energy expenditure, not reasonability. For some people an instance can be internalized, or even just works out-of-the-box; for others it needs to be externalized.
- fbeans 6y ago"Shaving the Yak" is great. However I often think of the MITM video when in these situations; and personally refer to it as "Hal's Tangent" which has a kind of philosophical/mathematics feel to it.
- Chris2048 6y agoI'm not sure if that's really yak shaving. Usually it means having to fix thing A to fix thing B. But in Hals case he simply discovers other problems and gets distracted, e.g. He could still change the bulb before he fixes the shelf.
- diamondo25 6y agoBut have you tried turning off and on the power for at least 5 minutes? There is a known bug that happens with some vendors causing malfunction of the bus, losing power or bricking your device. /s
- 4778468d 6y agoWhy is GNU/Linux still a thing? What’s the GNU bit of Linux?
- enriquto 6y agoYes, the name is a bit cumbersome. I simply call my operating system "GNU", no need to specify the kernel. Paired with a neat interface (black xterm on a solid black background without panel nor window decorations), people walk confusedly by my computer and ask: what's that wicked system of yours? And I say: "That's the GNU operating system, man!" It never ceases to cause a stir.
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- david_draco 6y agoOnly almost everything of the programs (ls, grep, bash, gcc, etc). Linux is just the kernel. Stallman lead development of most of the shell environment you use today.
- galkk 6y agoGiven that the kernel will/could expect to work without the programs, more or less, why it isn't Linux/GNU then. Linux is a kernel, the rest are just a programs.
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- tetris11 6y ago...and 1 user who asks for the bulb to remain broken as it was previously casting light on their poorly optimised code.
- ducktective 6y agohttps://xkcd.com/1172/ https://xkcd.com/1172/
- FrankSansC 6y ago> 1 to remind everyone that the right name is GNU/Lightbulb it still cracks me up everytime I read it :D
- sjtindell 6y agoThis part got me. Would also add 1 user to say light is free as in speech and 1 to argue it’s free as in beer.
- mynameismonkey 6y agoOr maybe, 1 to argue light is free as in wave _and_ free as in particle.
- aidenn0 6y agoI always wanted to port a BSD userspace to Linux just so I could counter-correct someone who corrects me to GNU/Linux.
- Qub3d 6y agoBusybox or Toybox should cover that :D
- segfaultbuserr 6y agoAlpine Linux already does it, musl + busybox. Not BSD though. Nowadays I use "GNU/Linux" vs "Linux" to distinguish between an ordinary Linux distro (which comes with gcc, glibcs, coreutils, and all the other tools you expect) vs a minimum or embedded distro or system (OpenWrt, Android, Alpine, etc).
- jdc 6y ago2 to claim the bulb is working as intended and blast the user for doing it wrong
- ngcc_hk 6y ago1 said it is ok to use the new light bulb but 350 said no because it is under gpl 3.0 1 said the whole thing using electricity is no good to earth and start to use solar based light system instead, and his web site on how to do got 10,000 comments in HN for commenting not the light bulb, but his using python static site.
- l0b0 6y ago1 to post how the user has only themselves to blame because they didn't build the lightbulb from the instructions released today. The same user to repeat the above every day OP responds until OP gives up.
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- peterburkimsher 6y ago2 to summon a daemon in the dark. 4 to resign from their positions as leaders of the mailing list, blaming the daemon for their stress. Half the community to insist that daemons are against their philosophy. The other half to argue that it's an improvement on the old days when they had to bash rocks together to start a fire to have light. One to accidentally try connecting the new lightbulb to a pipe, before realising it doesn't accept stdin. A vocal 10% of the community to insist that dark mode is better. A system tester to insist that the room is still light during working hours. Credit where due: https://devhumor.com/media/it-jobs-explained-with-a-broken-lightbulb https://devhumor.com/media/it-jobs-explained-with-a-broken-l... (There's more where this is coming from. If you want to help me write a book for ages 5-7 entitled "ed and the awk", I have a first draft and would enjoy sharing it).
- rich_sasha 6y ago50 users saying the lightbulb at their house is working, so it must be a configuration error. Suggest looking at the output of lgtconfig -v to debug.
- jankotek 6y agoNot so funny with modern IoT, maybe firmware upgrade is needed or restart wireless router :)
- yetihehe 6y agoAfter debugging configuration error for last 7 days, where even logs didn't help because manufacturer decided to use reference clock from different pin which was not documented officially to be able to do this - moder IoT sucks, because chip manufacturers release documentation as confidential and then firmware is implemented by hardware guys. As a programmer who can design some simple digital circuits, I could very mean things about HW guys doing SW/Fw, but I can see how much my HW skills suck and how funny my designs look from the other side.
- jankotek 6y agoIn IoT only one person is needed to change a light bulb. But it will take 7 days of soldering, debuging and reverse engineering :)
- drran 6y agoClean room reverse engineering requires two.
- clankyclanker 6y agoDon’t forget the lawyer required to vet the process.
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- MaxBarraclough 6y ago> The Free Software Foundation claims no copyright on this joke. Perfect! That strikes me as the real punchline ;-P
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- dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago> 1 former GNU/Linux user who still frequents the forum, to suggest to install an Apple iBulb, which has a fresh and innovating design and it costs $250. Well, in this particular case the reality got funnier than the joke.
- pmontra 6y agoAnecdotally 1 if I do it offline. The internet sinks productivity.
- DonHopkins 6y agoQ: How many Northern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Hella!!! Q: How many Southern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Totally!!! https://escholarship.org/uc/item/6492j904 https://escholarship.org/uc/item/6492j904 Hella Nor Cal or Totally So Cal?: The Perceptual Dialectology of California Mary Bucholtz, Nancy Bermudez, Victor Fung, Lisa Edwards and Rosalva Vargas. Journal of English Linguistics 2007; 35; 325. DOI: 10.1177/0075424207307780 Abstract This study provides the first detailed account of perceptual dialectology within California (as well as one of the first accounts of perceptual dialectology within any single state). Quantitative analysis of a map-labeling task carried out in Southern California reveals that California’s most salient linguistic boundary is between the northern and southern regions of the state. Whereas studies of the perceptual dialectology of the United States as a whole have focused almost exclusively on regional dialect differences, respondents associated particular regions of California less with distinctive dialects than with differences in language (English versus Spanish), slang use, and social groups. The diverse socio linguistic situation of California is reflected in the emphasis both on highly salient social groups thought to be stereotypical of California by residents and nonresidents alike (e.g., surfers) and on groups that, though prominent in the cultural landscape of the state, remain largely unrecognized by outsiders (e.g., hicks).
- geocrasher 6y agoIn conversation recently, I told somebody "I'm from Southern California. This means I talk fast and say 'man' and 'dude' a lot."
- alejohausner 6y agoCalifornians don't screw in lightbulbs. They screw in hot tubs. (this joke is dated, I know)
- boogies 6y agoAll of `fortune -m Californian` is worth reading (and probably mostly dated). (riddles) % Q: How many Californians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Five. One to screw in the light bulb and four to share the experience. (Actually, Californians don't screw in light bulbs, they screw in hot tubs.) Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Three. One to screw in the light bulb and two to fend off all those Californians trying to share the experience. % Q: How many mathematicians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: One. He gives it to six Californians, thereby reducing the problem to the earlier joke. % (ethnic) % Hear about the Californian terrorist that tried to blow up a bus? Burned his lips on the exhaust pipe. % To a Californian, a person must prove himself criminally insane before he is allowed to drive a taxi in New York. For New York cabbies, honesty and stopping at red lights are both optional. -- From "East vs. West: The War Between the Coasts % To a Californian, all New Yorkers are cold; even in heat they rarely go above fifty-eight degrees. If you collapse on a street in New York, plan to spend a few days there. -- From "East vs. West: The War Between the Coasts % To a New Yorker, all Californians are blond, even the blacks. There are, in fact, whole neighborhoods that are zoned only for blond people. The only way to tell the difference between California and Sweden is that the Swedes speak better English." -- From "East vs. West: The War Between the Coasts
- Havoc 6y agoYes but is the lightbulb the streaming/rolling version? If so totally unusable. Basically Satan. —hn yesterday
- lightbulbjim 6y agoOne more is required to complain about top posting.
- kchr 6y agoWhat? > One more is required to complain about top posting.
- zoobab 6y agoThis was my introduction for the FOSDEM IOT devroom: https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/iotwelcome/ https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/iotwelcome/ https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/986006653605687296 https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/986006653605687296 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onZ4KMM94yI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onZ4KMM94yI
- rozab 6y agoThat slide is just shocking. Freddie Mercury? It's like this sketch but real life https://youtu.be/y8OnoxKotPQ https://youtu.be/y8OnoxKotPQ
- bombcar 6y agoWhat's scary is Hue bulbs are some of the MORE performant of the IoT stuff I have - and work when offline. That second part is the key - so much stuff is designed "cloud first" and that introduces lots of delays and errors when the Internet isn't working perfectly.
- aequitas 6y agoOr simply deny to work without an internet connection, like Chromecast, even though you just want to stream local content when your internet is down.
- Jaruzel 6y agoYup, If you are prepared to crank out some JSON to your Hue hub, you can 100% control them offline. I do this via scripts for my Hue based outside lights. My Hue Hub is blocked from accessing the internet too.
- anoncow 6y agoLost it at LaTeX.
- nergal 6y ago* 50 users continued the discussion on Hacker News
- jayp1418 6y agoA. One. And then let one GNU user call BSD user to change a bulb.
- imgabe 6y agoWith enough eyeballs light bulbs are unnecessary.
- Zenst 6y agoMost of the time the light bulb changes owners(usually landfill) and dictates when that is done.
- elisharobinson 6y agoHN has its issues but its got its moments aswell.
- fierarul 6y agoAnd... Why aren't there community done bulbs or printers or cars? The pinnacle of technology is mostly free and open source. Yet, I don't see this in any other industry sector. So... is tech ahead of the curve of the most idealistic one?
- taffer 6y agoLight bulbs and cars have significant marginal costs that software does not have. Some types of software (operating systems, DB, browsers) also have a network or platform effect, so people actually have an incentive to get other people to use or even improve their software.
- fierarul 6y agoEven so, geek themselves are a pretty nice market. Would you not buy an open source printer? I know I hate HP after the last one died just after warranty ended and they have no spare parts whatsoever. Same with other things. I would buy those things. And if they really are good they can become a mass market product. Yet, we only get a phone or something and that's it.
- segfaultbuserr 6y agoMy answer would be: The cost of distributing or running a software package is almost zero, same is not true for hardware, followed by an argument of how hardware manufacturing depends on the economics of scale, unlike software. However, I soon realized your question is much deeper. It is not "Would you not buy an open source printer?", but "If you can buy an open source phone, would you not buy a printer?" - I think it's a good thought-provoking question. I'm not sure about the answer yet.
- amelius 6y agoBut at least they own their light bulb.
- johnchristopher 6y ago> 350 to ask the previous user what God is he talking about, and that if he has scientific proofs of His existence. Oh, this is where HN gets on the topic.
- scoutt 6y ago1 to tell the user to file a super extensive bugzilla ticket backtracking all the history of the light bulb like on/off frequency, usage, etc. 1 who says they should rewire the entire house electrical wiring in Rust. 1 who says that more light bulbs can be found in the usual place: a drawer called /etc, or /usr, or /usr/local/, or /opt, or...
- swiley 6y ago1 from the lamp maintenance company to say that this doesn't violate the lamp specifications and close the ticket.
- Ygg2 6y ago> 1 who says they should rewire the entire house electrical wiring in Rust. 1 person who will protest against Rust and will write it in PHP. 666 people suffering the bulb.php that when turned on or off will consult a ten thousand entry long list of stuff that might happen.
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- chirag64 6y ago> 1 person who will protest against Rust and will write it in PHP. 1 person who will protest against PHP and will write it in Node.js, bringing a hundred miles of wire along with it
- mattlondon 6y agoObligatory: 5 to say RTFM.
- noisy_boy 6y ago1 user who says "I have a perfect solution for this that's been working perfectly for me and fixed all my lightbulb issues, I'll share later" only to never post again...
- noisy_boy 6y ago1 user to suggest running the bulb in the cloud and call it "lightning" 1 user to swear by bulb-as-a-service or BaaS
- Jaruzel 6y agoLight-as-a-service could work... where you outsource all your light switches to an AWS lambda function, and turn them on/off via a subscription based "AI Powered Easy To Use App!" AI powered of course in that it knows when you've entered and exited a room, unlike dumb humans who have problems with this... or something.
- saalweachter 6y agoThis is actually sounding like a perfect startup proposal. The startup puts a full suite of smart bulbs/switches in your house for free, and then charges you a monthly subscription fee (flat fee + a per-candela-second rate). Sure, there's a large up-front cost for the startup followed by a long amortization period before you start actually making money, but that's what VC is for.
- Jaruzel 6y agoWhat's the URL for YC funding again ? XD
- whatshisface 6y agoThe cloud-based light-as-a-service product is called "The Sun." It is prone to frequent outages but they are almost always resolved within 24 hours.
- the_af 6y agoI don't trust the Sun or light-as-a-service, I want to live completely self-sustained without relying on external light sources whose terms of use may or may not change next year. Sure, the Sun is free now, but that will change once they figure out how to monetize it.
- sabon 6y ago1298. The article doesn't answer how many, so I've counted. It takes 1298 GNU/Linux users to change a light bulb. Including the father of the first user, excluding the 6 that complained, and then complained again (they're counted only once). And also, assuming there's no overlap between all the groups, which is probably unrealistic.
- makeworld 6y agoSo it takes 1299 then, if we include you.
- darkwater 6y ago1301, to be more precise.
- torcete 6y agoIncluding you, and now me saying that it should be 1300, but with my answer it is in fact 1301 :D
- read_if_gay_ 6y agoNo, GGP didn't count himself, GP pointed that out and also did count himself, so 1301 was correct, but now we're at 1303.
- saalweachter 6y agoPoint of clarification: is the father of the first user actually a GNU/Linux user?
- risson 6y agoWell he also uses the GNU/Lightbulb, so that's a yes
- arderary 6y ago1 to suggest replacing the lightbulb with systemd-lightd
- lights0123 6y agoIncorporate https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB into systemd when
- lrossi 6y agoAfter which you have to follow the straightforward systemd service troubleshooting procedure: systemctl is-system-running systemctl list-units systemctl list-units -t service --all systemctl list-units --state failed systemctl is-failed light.service systemctl status light.service systemctl show light.service journalctl -u light.service systemctl restart light.service journalctl -u light.service systemctl stop light.service SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug /lib/systemd/systemd-lightd journalctl -u light.service reboot systemctl --force reboot echo r > /proc/sysrq-trigger echo e > /proc/sysrq-trigger echo i > /proc/sysrq-trigger echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger echo u > /proc/sysrq-trigger echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
- majewsky 6y agoYour shell must be very resilient if you manage to issue commands after SysRq+I.
- undebuggable 6y agoOne can say it's old as the real problems started with the multicolor remote controlled LED lightbulbs.
- MR4D 6y agoTwo. One to change it. A second to tell the world that they are “GNU/Linux” lightbulb changers, not “Linux” lightbulb changers.
- segfaultbuserr 6y agoIt's more like... The first to buy one and change it. The second to tell the world that because it was him who repeatedly complained that the lightbulb should be changed, and he did help to grab a non-contact voltage detector and ladder while the first was working on it, hence they should be called "GNU/Linux" lightbulb changers, not "Linux" lightbulb changers, despite him not being the one who actually changed it.
- geocrasher 6y agoOnly slightly worse than Amateur Radio guys having discussions about antennae!
- cheaprentalyeti 6y agoI remember back in the old days there was a whole stack of this sort of joke. It started with "How many electrical engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?" "We'll fix the problem in software!" "How many software engineers does it take to change..." All the way through to "How many Microsoft executives does it take to change a lightbulb?" "Darkness. The new standard from Microsoft!" Bonus points for those who could work in a reference to Joseph Lucas, founder of Lucas Electric, aka The Prince of Darkness....
- balabaster 6y ago"Darkness. The new standard from Microsoft!" Thanks, you owe me a new keyboard... and incidentally, a new cup of tea :D
- jaclaz 6y agoJFYI (next time): https://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/s/spilling_drink_on_computer_keyboard.asp https://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/s/spilling_drink_on_c... And - for the record - with darkness Barney may start playing peekaboo on his own: http://web.archive.org/web/20030220095843/http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=172653 http://web.archive.org/web/20030220095843/http://support.mic...
- Jaruzel 6y ago"Darkness. The new standard from Microsoft!" TBH, this line is more likely to said by Apple these days.
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- darkwater 6y agoThat was a fun joke when it was originally posted (2013 according to Internet Archive) but today some them are actually real things with smart homes and smart bulbs, different vendors, different protocols etc etc
- cheese_van 6y agoIt's obvious from all the complaints that the lightbulb is contrary to Linux philosophy, and the project should be forked.
- whalesalad 6y agoOne to tell you to use arch. One to tell you arch is not necessary and Ubuntu works great. One to tell you that why not just use Debian, because it's the original pure form of Ubuntu? Then a FreeBSD hacker will come in and tell us about the manual pages. Soemone from a crypt in a dark forest of Germany will come out and ask us our thoughts on Open SUSE. The macOS user in the back meanwhile has already changed the bulb and is doing other things now. (fwiw I have appreciation for virtually all operating systems this is just meant to be a joke)
- dsr_ 6y agoOn Apple computers since 2017, there are no user-replaceable bulbs. Bring it in to the Genius Bar where it will either be swapped out under warranty in about 20 minutes, or, if out of warranty, will be handled for slightly less than the price of a new MacBook. Microsoft users have seventeen thousand lightbulbs to choose from. The free ones come with malware. The cheap ones vary in quality. The expensive ones come with no warrant of functionality, and all of them come with EULAs too long for any two lawyers to decipher identically.
- thrwerwe234234 6y agoYes, but with a mac you need to buy Apple Certified light bulbs, or else you'll be locked out of your house.
- salawat 6y agoThe Slacker will look on forlornly from amongst his binders full of printed out Slackbuilds, and a lonely dot matrix printer.
- akalsz 6y agoSee also: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/funnies.html#idp50162168 https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/funnies.html#idp501...
- lodi 6y ago> 1 noob to suggest to install a Microsoft lightbulb. > 300 to say that a Microsoft lightbulb would turn blue and that you'd had to reboot continuously to get back to normal. Love it.
- nineplay 6y ago1 to say this lightbulb has already been changed and point to a question about lighthouses that is 5 years old 1 to say "how to change a lightbulb" is a matter of opinion and therefore not up to the standards of the list. 1 to say "I changed it" and not say how.
- noncoml 6y ago1 user to bring up the topic of systemd, out of the blue, and complain about the decision to switch to it and ask to reconsider.
- neilv 6y agoThere was a related thread internal at CSAIL, a few/several years ago, in which, IIRC, a professor wrote lightbulb-changing story as criticism of things RMS was advocating, and then I couldn't resist writing a response story that turned that around. RMS asked me to post it somewhere, so he could link to it, but the other person's post was important for context and effect. (Also, I was trying to move away from too much open source and societal issues involvement, to move back into a commercial dotcoms/startup track, and there was a danger of getting typecast by associations.)
- strictnein 6y ago5 to say "Can't duplicate. My lightbulb works just fine."
- risson 6y ago7 users advise to turn off IPv6
- grawprog 6y agoThe lightbulb never gets changed. It's still there buried under layers and layers of improvements meant to work around the limitations of the dead lighbulb including several other partially finished lightbulbs and an array of mirrors to try and cast some light around the room. The last time someone tried to go in and actually remove the lightbulb, they were lost and never returned. Legends say they're still there trying to wrestle the bulb out from underneath everything.
- hazeii 6y agoWe don't need to change it. Just work together and it'll come back on. After all, "many hands make light work."
- miguelmota 6y agoIt's missing the 1 guy that slips in "I use arch btw"
- IgorPartola 6y agoThat last part... so this is a real incident that happened to me: I am originally from Ukraine. I came to the US a long time ago but was in Ukraine as a teenager. My father and his father also live in the US. One day my father asked me to come over and help him finish building his fence so I did. When I got there the two of them were working on it and it turned out that my help would consist of driving them to Home Depot with my slightly larger than my father’s car to bring some wooden planks and hardware back. So the three of us go and pick out the planks (that could have probably easily fit into my father’s car but whatever) and then we hit a crisis: they needed to pick a gate latch as the final bit of hardware. We go to the correct aisle and the two of them start looking for the correct kind of latch. My grandfather who was born in a small village not too much prior to WWII immediately goes to the very end of the section and picks up the cheapest latch that costs $0.49 and says “this is clearly the best choice.” My father goes next to him and picks out a $0.79 latch that is 30 cents nicer and says “I don’t want a cheap latch. I want this fence and gate to look nice.” My grandfather counters with “this is just a latch. Who cares how nice it is?” My father counters with “this is my fence and I don’t want to be embarrassed about how it looks. Quality matters.” My grandfather responds with something like “it’s not the latch that matters it’s how you build it.” They went on like this for about 15 minutes. Eventually I came up and grabbed a $1.19 latch and said “how about I just buy you this one and we can get out of here?” to which both of them responded with “you can’t do that. You don’t know what you are talking about.” To which I said “it’s my money and this thing costs so little that why would it matter?” My grandfather countered with “then you are clearly not good with money, spending too dollar on something like a latch. They are all the same, so why pay more?” This is when a Home Depot employee approached us to ask if we needed any help and was told by my father that no we were all set and we found the latch we needed (the one he was holding). The employee walked away clearly knowing we were far from all set but also knowing full well that this was a family matter. After 15 more minutes my father put his foot down and went to the checkout and bought the $0.79 latch. The ride home was very tense and silent though my grandfather did help him install the latch when we got back. I am still not sure what the moral of the story is but since then I have been fortunate enough to not need to advice anyone on gate latch choices.
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- filmgirlcw 6y agoThere was no light bulb.
- yongjik 6y agoHmm... we still need that one guy saying light bulbs are an outdated housing paradigm and no longer supported on GNOME3, fifty people asking "Well, fine, how do I see stuff at night then?", a cricket and a tumbleweed, one more guy saying "Well screw it, I'm installing KDE!", another poor girl finding out her light bulb's closed-source firmware doesn't work with her home wiring, and one Linus Torvalds to throw a middle finger at the light bulb's maker.
- kalium-xyz 6y agoAnd 168 to comment on it years later on hacker news.
- ece 6y agoHey, look, it's a GNU joke.