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Notion Timeline View

311 points by AlphaWeaver 6y ago

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capableweb 6y ago
Fabulous that Notion now have Gantt charts. Only things that are missing for planning heaven now is being able to declare dependencies and timelines moving automatically on schedule change.
- janlukacs 6y ago
  Notion now has a timeline, it's not a Gantt chart :) What you said next is a Gantt chart.
  - capableweb 6y ago
    A timeline for scheduling is a Gantt chart. Dependencies wasn't part of the first versions of the Gantt charts.
    - janlukacs 6y ago
      We were both obviously talking about the modern definition of the Gantt Chart, not the paper version invented pre ww1.
iKlsR 6y ago
Notions needs basic analytics, if I share a page I'd like to see the amount of hits it gets at least.
- grinnick 6y ago
  You can hack the embed blocks to get basic analytics: https://apption.co/apps/2 https://apption.co/apps/2
- Spivak 6y ago
  Your best bet for that at the moment is to use one of the unofficial Notion APIs and write an article-to-static-HTML converter and host it on your own site. https://presstige.io/ https://presstige.io/ is an IRL implementation of the idea.
- carolus4 6y ago
  I've seen reference to https://super.so/ https://super.so/ used for this also.
- shanecleveland 6y ago
  Very basic, but easy solution: https://timelinetool.app/notion/event https://timelinetool.app/notion/event
lordleft 6y ago
Notion is a great tool and I recommend it as a solid "all-around" personal-wiki / notetaking tool. That being said, the fact that it's electron-based means it's not always as snappy as I'd like it to be when I want to quickly capture a thought -- sometimes the "page" has to reload, even when I'm using the desktop app. I also notice that like slack, it suffers from the same in-line text formatting woes, which can be infuriating if you're trying to escape out of a code block or something. Still, it's a good tool, and this is a neat feature I'm excited to try.
- aidos 6y ago
  I find the same. For my workflows the performance gets in the way. I saw another similar tool the other day by the same guys that did Linear (which I love) that looked awesome. If we weren’t deeply embedded with Notion now I’d give it a try. https://www.getoutline.com/ https://www.getoutline.com/
  - nsriv 6y ago
    Was curious about Linear, assuming you meant https://linear.app/ https://linear.app/ ?
    - aidos 6y ago
      Indeed. We switched to it a few months back and I couldn’t be happier. The interface is lovely, especially for a power user. Performance is killer. We actually had a call with them about their architecture and borrowed some ideas for our own product.
- baron816 6y ago
  Always a complaint about Electron on here. Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations.
  - testnew2 6y ago
opdahl 6y ago
This is such a phenomenal update! I’ve been waiting for this feature for ages. Our company uses Notion for managing objectives in a hierachical structure that all need to be looked at in different timeframes. Our Campaigns are measured in years, missions in months, projects in weeks, milestone in days and tasks hours. Being able to easily change the granualirity of the timeline views make it so we can actually use it for all levels of our system. Now if only Notion could add the option on adding requirements/logic to parameters I will have very little I feel I can’t do in Notion.
alexh1 6y ago
Anyone have insight into how they built this? Custom Gantt solution or you think they bought one? There are no good and free JS gantt libraries, but many, many paid ones. I've been trying to find a good one for Portabella (https://portabella.io https://portabella.io) as they're an essential part of project management platforms, but no luck yet.
- jitl 6y ago
  We build this ourselves. It's React with little in the way of 3rd-party "magic".
- daltonlp 6y ago
  You're right, there are no good and free JS libraries for gantt charts (or even timelines). It is a non-trivial problem domain. I know, because I helped build a product (https://peachyplan.com https://peachyplan.com) much like Notion's timeline view :) The notion team did a phenomenal job. This is one of the best timeline views I've seen, and I've looked at hundreds.
- ConcernedCoder 6y ago
  we use https://www.bryntum.com/ https://www.bryntum.com/
- the_arun 6y ago
  We use smartsheets. It has Gantt chart
- uyt 6y ago
  I also needed something similar but instead of a lack of libraries, I actually remember seeing an overwhelming amount of choices. There are 200+ libraries with the word gantt in it: https://www.npmjs.com/search?q=gantt&ranking=popularity https://www.npmjs.com/search?q=gantt&ranking=popularity. And a lot more if you also include calendar timelines like https://github.com/namespace-ee/react-calendar-timeline https://github.com/namespace-ee/react-calendar-timeline. Did you evaluate them and consider all of them to be bad? I ended up building my own because everything looked too flexible for my use case. I only needed basic layout/time tick marks and zoom/pan.
dmix 6y ago
That's some great web design. Both in the app screenshots and the guide/marketing website.
krono 6y ago
I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.
- alexh1 6y ago
  Take a look at Portabella (https://portabella.io https://portabella.io), we're not feature complete with Notion but making serious progress!
  - scrollaway 6y ago
    I don't see a way to self host it. Are you willing to consider it? It seems like you're targeting a particular niche and not having it open source or self hostable seems like a mistake.
    - alex_portabella 6y ago
      No way right now. I do think that self hosting takes away most benefits we provide. Hopefully open source soon!
      - acjohnson55 6y ago
        What are the benefits that would be lost?
        alex_portabella 6y ago
        Well the primary benefit of Portabella is end-to-end encryption. The reason for e2ee is so you don't have to trust the provider. If you're hosting stuff yourself why wouldn't you trust your own infra? As long as you've got a TLS connection to and from your servers + encryption at rest, client side encryption gives no particular benefits.
  - krono 6y ago
FirstLvR 6y ago
still no 2FA? or encryption? Notion is amazing, but lack of security/privacy options for me
- thom 6y ago
  You can technically hook it up to SAML and so enforce 2FA elsewhere but I assume that'd be absurd levels of overkill for most people.
xrisk 6y ago
My only problem with Notion seems to be that it doesn’t play well at all with SEO. Google doesn’t index my blog which is hosted on Notion; presumably because it’s all rendered client-side.
Lazare 6y ago
I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow, at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certainly understand why they'd choose the tech stack they did... ...but I'll stick with Joplin. :)
- thom 6y ago
  As someone who wants to replace a bunch of stuff in Jira with Notion I have never really perceived performance problems, but I guess it isn't the snappiest.
  - crooked-v 6y ago
    Jira is so awful that almost anything is faster than it anyway.
- chpmrc 6y ago
  I've been waiting for their apps to be snappier and have better offline support for almost 2 years. I'm so glad to have found Joplin. It also supports E2E encryption so damn well. Support for plugins was also recently added and that's a big plus.
- eropple 6y ago
  First time I've seen Joplin--can it handle multiple users partying on the same pages at the same time? EDIT: apparently not, according to [ https://joplinapp.org/conflict/ https://joplinapp.org/conflict/ ] -- that's a bummer, it rules it out for my use cases :/ I really don't think a filesystem-based sync mechanism works great for a collaborative tool, which is much of the value of Notion to me. It seems really cool for single-user, never-shared stuff, though.
- jeromenerf 6y ago
  Notion is indeed slow. Slack is slow. Google drive is slow. Trello is slow. Some local/native alternatives can be snappier. Speed and snappiness don’t always come together, but when they do, there is no going back to something even a little slower or less reactive. That’s why I don’t test nor try new hardware until I actually need more than what I have. It’s too strong to resist ;)
Closi 6y ago
Any plan to add dependencies? It seems to be missing from lots of platforms that have this sort of view.
niels_bom 6y ago
I’ve been using Notion quite a lot the last 1.5 years at work and I’ve got similar gripes as others have already written about. My major wish, and this has been on their roadmap for a while now: an API. Question: how many of y’all use Notion in the desktop client version (which seems a bit faster) vs. in the browser where you can have multiple tabd open?
- AlphaWeaver 6y ago
  API going into closed beta before the end of the year, IIRC
  - niels_bom 6y ago
    That’s good news, new for me, thanks.
- wrcwill 6y ago
  For me notion is much faster in browser than on the desktop client for some reason. Scrolling in some tables is butter smooth in firefox and super laggy on desktop (chrome sits between both) on my 2014 mbp. I initially thought i would prefer tabs, but I find it faster to alt-tab between the browser and the desktop client when working with both, so its unfortunate that it's laggy sometimes.
tomasreimers 6y ago
Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a: * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner * Blogging/publishing platform * Internal wiki * Note-taking app One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing features without a coherent narrative of how they grow the company's placement and who their target user is. Previous companies which have done this (e.g. Evernote) grow really quickly with a lot of user-love and then stagnated in growth without a clear sense of what to do next. With all that said, I'm a happy notion user, so maybe they're onto something... I wonder if internally they have that sense of direction (e.g. they want to compete head-on with Monday) and, if so, how scoped it is (e.g. do they want to replace ALL internal tools / do they think that's tractable)?
- tmpz22 6y ago
  They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and product. But they have one path through their self-imposed blizzard and the footprints leading the way are clearly marked "Evernote".
  - tomasreimers 6y ago
    Yes, and I believe a lot of startup advice is to do one thing well (serving a specific market) before trying to branch out. Or are you saying they're trying to throws things at a wall to see what sticks with enterprise customers?
    - tmpz22 6y ago
      On paper they've already done the whole MVP/product-fit phase and are using the money to fast-forward into $100m-$1B ARR territory. This thread is talking about a relatively minor update as part of that phase, and leading people to point out the various flaws in their product with the corollary that they aren't really worth $100m-$1b territory in the first place. Then again who knows, surveymonkey is an example of a company that nobody thought would "get there" and yet they did.
stevenalowe 6y ago
it's... a gantt chart without the dependency lines?
olso 6y ago
Still waiting for a way to apply a filter over "Relations" field We have a field called related tasks. We would like to filter related based on status field (Done/Todo). Without creating additional linked database views inside a page
keyle 6y ago
Cool, so it's Microsoft Projects with emojis. /s
- russellbeattie 6y ago
  Exactly my first thought! 20+ years ago I had to write a bunch of VBScript that would generate Project files from Lotus Notes and Access data. (Ahh. Enterprise software at it's best!) Timeline graphs are one of those things that look pretty in presos, loved by some execs and completely inaccurate the second they're created.
greatgib 6y ago
Wouhou, a "new type of database"... But I guess that kind of marketing should work on morons that never heard of Gantt charts
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  The different table types in notion are called databases. It's not trying to make out they've invented timelines.
- hazz99 6y ago
  In Notion, data is stored in generic "database" form, which is basically a table. Different views –– like kanban boards, calendar views, and gantt charts –– are layered on top. A "new type of database" means that they've added another type of database layer to Notion. It is a perfectly reasonable way to phrase it. Congrats to the Notion team, you've made a phenomenal product! There's some incredible product sense inside your company.
fmakunbound 6y ago
With Slack, Discord, Spotify, Postman and Code I don’t think I’d have room for another excruciatingly slow/sluggish Electron app on this 2014 MBP with its mere 16GB of RAM
sethgecko 6y ago
I see a lot of nice recommendation for note taking apps, but for me the 2 biggest features that I need are 1. No vendor lock in. I can’t lose access to my notes because of random account bans or the company going under or w/e. Also plain markdown, no nonsense proprietary formats. 2. Platform independence, I work across mac/windows/ios on home and work. So I ended up using a git repo with markdown files. I use Noteable and Typora on mac/win. No need to import/export anything they both work with plain markdown files on the fs with tags as markdown front matter (I sync manually with git). For mobile I use GitJournal which basically has the same features and it can automatically sync with a git repo.
- another_kel 6y ago
  You might like obsidian. It’s a note taking app that’s markdown based and saves files in a local folder. Allows you to do cool linking between pages and stuff. Even has the auto push to github plug-in. Only disadvantage is that unlike typora wysiwyg functionality isn’t implemented yet.
- siscia 6y ago
  I was going through the same process and I ended up creating https://nostashapp.com https://nostashapp.com It features fast search and a very fast interface. It is going to stay forever up because it contains my own notes. Export to HTML or Markdown is coming. You can support the application through patreon if you like or use it for free. Open to any kind of feedback.
optemization 6y ago
it's a long awaited update for the Notion community. Beyond the timeline view, they introduced the ability to hide database properties in card view, so that doesn't obstruct content, which btw, adding content to a database record in a vertical UI is one of the best Notion features, so they made it so much nicer. just like any new Notion features, there are bells and whistles so, i went ahead and carefully broke them down in today's blog post: https://optemization.com/timeline-view-notion https://optemization.com/timeline-view-notion
CathedralBorrow 6y ago
Like many others here I've tried more or less all of the productivity services and only one of them has actually stuck: Discord. I made a server called Diary, accessible only by me, and I have a few different channels like work-log, life-log, d&d session notes, joke ideas, etc. I also feed all screenshots I take into a channel, and set up a chrome extension that sends whatever page I'm on to the web-log channel as a link.
- sagark1992 6y ago
  Wow I too have a personal discord channel where I add ideas, bookmarks, journal etc. in separate channel. What I like about discord is the full text search - its super fast. Is your chrome extension public, really interested in it.
  - CathedralBorrow 6y ago
    Yep! https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/discord-link-sender/eomemhkkpegienlgknkpfimmombfjooc https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/discord-link-sende... You just set up a bot on your server, and give the extension the URL the first time you activate/click it. Edit: To be clear, it activates on user action, i.e. it doesn't send all my history to the channel. I did try that for a while but it just made a lot of noise that I never combed through. This one suits me much better; just right click and send to discord.
zerubeus 6y ago
Notion have a big performance problem in mobile especially with Android, the app takes more than 10s to start its just killing the user experience. The app design and functionality are really good, but the performance issues are killing the product. And I just can't keep up with the poor file uploading system, every time I move a file position in a document I just end up loosing the file. Any suggestions for a good note taking app other than notion?
grimborg 6y ago
If the Notion timeline view had more granularity (hours and not just days), it would become a great tool to plan novel scenes! (I’m using Aeon Timeline for now, but it’s clunky and doesn’t get any updates. I’d switch to Notion in a heartbeat!)

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capableweb 6y ago

Fabulous that Notion now have Gantt charts. Only things that are missing for planning heaven now is being able to declare dependencies and timelines moving automatically on schedule change.

janlukacs 6y ago
Notion now has a timeline, it's not a Gantt chart :) What you said next is a Gantt chart.
- capableweb 6y ago
  A timeline for scheduling is a Gantt chart. Dependencies wasn't part of the first versions of the Gantt charts.
  - janlukacs 6y ago
    We were both obviously talking about the modern definition of the Gantt Chart, not the paper version invented pre ww1.

iKlsR 6y ago

Notions needs basic analytics, if I share a page I'd like to see the amount of hits it gets at least.

grinnick 6y ago
You can hack the embed blocks to get basic analytics: https://apption.co/apps/2 https://apption.co/apps/2
Spivak 6y ago
Your best bet for that at the moment is to use one of the unofficial Notion APIs and write an article-to-static-HTML converter and host it on your own site. https://presstige.io/ https://presstige.io/ is an IRL implementation of the idea.
carolus4 6y ago
I've seen reference to https://super.so/ https://super.so/ used for this also.
shanecleveland 6y ago
Very basic, but easy solution: https://timelinetool.app/notion/event https://timelinetool.app/notion/event

lordleft 6y ago

Notion is a great tool and I recommend it as a solid "all-around" personal-wiki / notetaking tool. That being said, the fact that it's electron-based means it's not always as snappy as I'd like it to be when I want to quickly capture a thought -- sometimes the "page" has to reload, even when I'm using the desktop app. I also notice that like slack, it suffers from the same in-line text formatting woes, which can be infuriating if you're trying to escape out of a code block or something. Still, it's a good tool, and this is a neat feature I'm excited to try.

aidos 6y ago
I find the same. For my workflows the performance gets in the way. I saw another similar tool the other day by the same guys that did Linear (which I love) that looked awesome. If we weren’t deeply embedded with Notion now I’d give it a try. https://www.getoutline.com/ https://www.getoutline.com/
- nsriv 6y ago
  Was curious about Linear, assuming you meant https://linear.app/ https://linear.app/ ?
  - aidos 6y ago
    Indeed. We switched to it a few months back and I couldn’t be happier. The interface is lovely, especially for a power user. Performance is killer. We actually had a call with them about their architecture and borrowed some ideas for our own product.
baron816 6y ago
Always a complaint about Electron on here. Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations.
- testnew2 6y ago

opdahl 6y ago

This is such a phenomenal update! I’ve been waiting for this feature for ages. Our company uses Notion for managing objectives in a hierachical structure that all need to be looked at in different timeframes. Our Campaigns are measured in years, missions in months, projects in weeks, milestone in days and tasks hours. Being able to easily change the granualirity of the timeline views make it so we can actually use it for all levels of our system. Now if only Notion could add the option on adding requirements/logic to parameters I will have very little I feel I can’t do in Notion.

alexh1 6y ago

Anyone have insight into how they built this? Custom Gantt solution or you think they bought one? There are no good and free JS gantt libraries, but many, many paid ones. I've been trying to find a good one for Portabella (https://portabella.io https://portabella.io) as they're an essential part of project management platforms, but no luck yet.

jitl 6y ago
We build this ourselves. It's React with little in the way of 3rd-party "magic".
daltonlp 6y ago
You're right, there are no good and free JS libraries for gantt charts (or even timelines). It is a non-trivial problem domain. I know, because I helped build a product (https://peachyplan.com https://peachyplan.com) much like Notion's timeline view :) The notion team did a phenomenal job. This is one of the best timeline views I've seen, and I've looked at hundreds.
ConcernedCoder 6y ago
we use https://www.bryntum.com/ https://www.bryntum.com/
the_arun 6y ago
We use smartsheets. It has Gantt chart
uyt 6y ago
I also needed something similar but instead of a lack of libraries, I actually remember seeing an overwhelming amount of choices. There are 200+ libraries with the word gantt in it: https://www.npmjs.com/search?q=gantt&ranking=popularity https://www.npmjs.com/search?q=gantt&ranking=popularity. And a lot more if you also include calendar timelines like https://github.com/namespace-ee/react-calendar-timeline https://github.com/namespace-ee/react-calendar-timeline. Did you evaluate them and consider all of them to be bad? I ended up building my own because everything looked too flexible for my use case. I only needed basic layout/time tick marks and zoom/pan.

dmix 6y ago

That's some great web design. Both in the app screenshots and the guide/marketing website.

krono 6y ago

I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.

alexh1 6y ago
Take a look at Portabella (https://portabella.io https://portabella.io), we're not feature complete with Notion but making serious progress!
- scrollaway 6y ago
  I don't see a way to self host it. Are you willing to consider it? It seems like you're targeting a particular niche and not having it open source or self hostable seems like a mistake.
  - alex_portabella 6y ago
    No way right now. I do think that self hosting takes away most benefits we provide. Hopefully open source soon!
    - acjohnson55 6y ago
      What are the benefits that would be lost?
      - alex_portabella 6y ago
        Well the primary benefit of Portabella is end-to-end encryption. The reason for e2ee is so you don't have to trust the provider. If you're hosting stuff yourself why wouldn't you trust your own infra? As long as you've got a TLS connection to and from your servers + encryption at rest, client side encryption gives no particular benefits.
- krono 6y ago

FirstLvR 6y ago

still no 2FA? or encryption? Notion is amazing, but lack of security/privacy options for me

thom 6y ago
You can technically hook it up to SAML and so enforce 2FA elsewhere but I assume that'd be absurd levels of overkill for most people.

xrisk 6y ago

My only problem with Notion seems to be that it doesn’t play well at all with SEO. Google doesn’t index my blog which is hosted on Notion; presumably because it’s all rendered client-side.

Lazare 6y ago

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow, at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certainly understand why they'd choose the tech stack they did... ...but I'll stick with Joplin. :)

thom 6y ago
As someone who wants to replace a bunch of stuff in Jira with Notion I have never really perceived performance problems, but I guess it isn't the snappiest.
- crooked-v 6y ago
  Jira is so awful that almost anything is faster than it anyway.
chpmrc 6y ago
I've been waiting for their apps to be snappier and have better offline support for almost 2 years. I'm so glad to have found Joplin. It also supports E2E encryption so damn well. Support for plugins was also recently added and that's a big plus.
eropple 6y ago
First time I've seen Joplin--can it handle multiple users partying on the same pages at the same time? EDIT: apparently not, according to [ https://joplinapp.org/conflict/ https://joplinapp.org/conflict/ ] -- that's a bummer, it rules it out for my use cases :/ I really don't think a filesystem-based sync mechanism works great for a collaborative tool, which is much of the value of Notion to me. It seems really cool for single-user, never-shared stuff, though.
jeromenerf 6y ago
Notion is indeed slow. Slack is slow. Google drive is slow. Trello is slow. Some local/native alternatives can be snappier. Speed and snappiness don’t always come together, but when they do, there is no going back to something even a little slower or less reactive. That’s why I don’t test nor try new hardware until I actually need more than what I have. It’s too strong to resist ;)

Closi 6y ago

Any plan to add dependencies? It seems to be missing from lots of platforms that have this sort of view.

niels_bom 6y ago

I’ve been using Notion quite a lot the last 1.5 years at work and I’ve got similar gripes as others have already written about. My major wish, and this has been on their roadmap for a while now: an API. Question: how many of y’all use Notion in the desktop client version (which seems a bit faster) vs. in the browser where you can have multiple tabd open?

AlphaWeaver 6y ago
API going into closed beta before the end of the year, IIRC
- niels_bom 6y ago
  That’s good news, new for me, thanks.
wrcwill 6y ago
For me notion is much faster in browser than on the desktop client for some reason. Scrolling in some tables is butter smooth in firefox and super laggy on desktop (chrome sits between both) on my 2014 mbp. I initially thought i would prefer tabs, but I find it faster to alt-tab between the browser and the desktop client when working with both, so its unfortunate that it's laggy sometimes.

tomasreimers 6y ago

Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a: * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner * Blogging/publishing platform * Internal wiki * Note-taking app One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing features without a coherent narrative of how they grow the company's placement and who their target user is. Previous companies which have done this (e.g. Evernote) grow really quickly with a lot of user-love and then stagnated in growth without a clear sense of what to do next. With all that said, I'm a happy notion user, so maybe they're onto something... I wonder if internally they have that sense of direction (e.g. they want to compete head-on with Monday) and, if so, how scoped it is (e.g. do they want to replace ALL internal tools / do they think that's tractable)?

tmpz22 6y ago
They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and product. But they have one path through their self-imposed blizzard and the footprints leading the way are clearly marked "Evernote".
- tomasreimers 6y ago
  Yes, and I believe a lot of startup advice is to do one thing well (serving a specific market) before trying to branch out. Or are you saying they're trying to throws things at a wall to see what sticks with enterprise customers?
  - tmpz22 6y ago
    On paper they've already done the whole MVP/product-fit phase and are using the money to fast-forward into $100m-$1B ARR territory. This thread is talking about a relatively minor update as part of that phase, and leading people to point out the various flaws in their product with the corollary that they aren't really worth $100m-$1b territory in the first place. Then again who knows, surveymonkey is an example of a company that nobody thought would "get there" and yet they did.

stevenalowe 6y ago

it's... a gantt chart without the dependency lines?

olso 6y ago

Still waiting for a way to apply a filter over "Relations" field We have a field called related tasks. We would like to filter related based on status field (Done/Todo). Without creating additional linked database views inside a page

keyle 6y ago

Cool, so it's Microsoft Projects with emojis. /s

russellbeattie 6y ago
Exactly my first thought! 20+ years ago I had to write a bunch of VBScript that would generate Project files from Lotus Notes and Access data. (Ahh. Enterprise software at it's best!) Timeline graphs are one of those things that look pretty in presos, loved by some execs and completely inaccurate the second they're created.

greatgib 6y ago

Wouhou, a "new type of database"... But I guess that kind of marketing should work on morons that never heard of Gantt charts

breakfastduck 6y ago
The different table types in notion are called databases. It's not trying to make out they've invented timelines.
hazz99 6y ago
In Notion, data is stored in generic "database" form, which is basically a table. Different views –– like kanban boards, calendar views, and gantt charts –– are layered on top. A "new type of database" means that they've added another type of database layer to Notion. It is a perfectly reasonable way to phrase it. Congrats to the Notion team, you've made a phenomenal product! There's some incredible product sense inside your company.

fmakunbound 6y ago

With Slack, Discord, Spotify, Postman and Code I don’t think I’d have room for another excruciatingly slow/sluggish Electron app on this 2014 MBP with its mere 16GB of RAM

sethgecko 6y ago

I see a lot of nice recommendation for note taking apps, but for me the 2 biggest features that I need are 1. No vendor lock in. I can’t lose access to my notes because of random account bans or the company going under or w/e. Also plain markdown, no nonsense proprietary formats. 2. Platform independence, I work across mac/windows/ios on home and work. So I ended up using a git repo with markdown files. I use Noteable and Typora on mac/win. No need to import/export anything they both work with plain markdown files on the fs with tags as markdown front matter (I sync manually with git). For mobile I use GitJournal which basically has the same features and it can automatically sync with a git repo.

another_kel 6y ago
You might like obsidian. It’s a note taking app that’s markdown based and saves files in a local folder. Allows you to do cool linking between pages and stuff. Even has the auto push to github plug-in. Only disadvantage is that unlike typora wysiwyg functionality isn’t implemented yet.
siscia 6y ago
I was going through the same process and I ended up creating https://nostashapp.com https://nostashapp.com It features fast search and a very fast interface. It is going to stay forever up because it contains my own notes. Export to HTML or Markdown is coming. You can support the application through patreon if you like or use it for free. Open to any kind of feedback.

optemization 6y ago

it's a long awaited update for the Notion community. Beyond the timeline view, they introduced the ability to hide database properties in card view, so that doesn't obstruct content, which btw, adding content to a database record in a vertical UI is one of the best Notion features, so they made it so much nicer. just like any new Notion features, there are bells and whistles so, i went ahead and carefully broke them down in today's blog post: https://optemization.com/timeline-view-notion https://optemization.com/timeline-view-notion

CathedralBorrow 6y ago

Like many others here I've tried more or less all of the productivity services and only one of them has actually stuck: Discord. I made a server called Diary, accessible only by me, and I have a few different channels like work-log, life-log, d&d session notes, joke ideas, etc. I also feed all screenshots I take into a channel, and set up a chrome extension that sends whatever page I'm on to the web-log channel as a link.

sagark1992 6y ago
Wow I too have a personal discord channel where I add ideas, bookmarks, journal etc. in separate channel. What I like about discord is the full text search - its super fast. Is your chrome extension public, really interested in it.
- CathedralBorrow 6y ago
  Yep! https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/discord-link-sender/eomemhkkpegienlgknkpfimmombfjooc https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/discord-link-sende... You just set up a bot on your server, and give the extension the URL the first time you activate/click it. Edit: To be clear, it activates on user action, i.e. it doesn't send all my history to the channel. I did try that for a while but it just made a lot of noise that I never combed through. This one suits me much better; just right click and send to discord.

zerubeus 6y ago

Notion have a big performance problem in mobile especially with Android, the app takes more than 10s to start its just killing the user experience. The app design and functionality are really good, but the performance issues are killing the product. And I just can't keep up with the poor file uploading system, every time I move a file position in a document I just end up loosing the file. Any suggestions for a good note taking app other than notion?

grimborg 6y ago

If the Notion timeline view had more granularity (hours and not just days), it would become a great tool to plan novel scenes! (I’m using Aeon Timeline for now, but it’s clunky and doesn’t get any updates. I’d switch to Notion in a heartbeat!)