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A friend once said “There’s all these studies about how bad sitting is for you. Now there are even studies about how bad standing desks are for you. Nobody ev
by zoba 6y ago
A friend once said “There’s all these studies about how bad sitting is for you. Now there are even studies about how bad standing desks are for you. Nobody ever says anything bad about laying down so I just try to do that as much as possible.”
I still laugh. Perhaps true in part though.
- diegocg 6y agoThe worst potential consequence of laying down is that your back muscles would become weaker. This is one of the reasons why sitting harms your back, and with laying down it would be even worse. Unless it's combined with some exercise it could be a really bad idea.
- bamboozled 6y agoI use a backless chair, called “The swooper”, imo it’s the best of both worlds. Sitting and standing. You can bounce aroundd on it which is fun too as the seat is mounted on a spring like a pogo stick. Apparently this bouncing helps keep the joints lubricated.
- Spacetoaster 6y agoHow long are you using it for every day? I also own that chair, but i find it uncomfortable for longer periods of time and tend switch to a chair with a backrest after ~1h
- bamboozled 6y agoHello, Some days I actually sit on it for 8-10 hours (I hate to admit it). I do take breaks and it can become fatiguing so occasionally, I feel like having a slouch so I go lie on the floor or use a regular chair (with decent posture) for a break. Probably what this chair has done for me the most is make sitting with bad posture feel noticeably strange and unnatural. There must also be something to be said for the fact that there is a “ramp up” time. I don’t think I have a stronger back from using this chair alone, although I guess I do have a less damaged and atrophied one. I do remember a time when it felt like certain muscles were getting stronger. I vaguely remember it taking a few months to become comfortable. It’s worth mentioning that I do a fair bit of weight training too and that I’ve had the chair for about 8 years.
- OJFord 6y agoDo you mean 'Swopper', the stool with a single astable leg? (Just for the benefit of anyone interested and trying to search for it :))
- bamboozled 6y agoSorry, I have this one: http://www.swopperusa.com/swopper-classic-high/ http://www.swopperusa.com/swopper-classic-high/
- melling 6y agoAre there good exercises for your back to offset sitting? Body weight exercises would be ideal.
- mtalantikite 6y agoLocust pose from yoga is phenomenal for back strength. Edit: You probably also should focus on core work too. Try some forearm planks to start.
- nafey 6y agoDid you mean Lotus position?
- mtalantikite 6y agoNope, Padmasana isn’t a back strengthening pose, although a strong core is necessary to maintain it for a typical meditation session. Salabhasana (locust pose) is great for the entire back side of the body.
- faichai 6y agoNot body weight, but deadlifts are a good counteraction. Glutes, lower back and upper back all come into play.
- bluedino 6y agoI would like some sort of setup like this when I throw my back out. I usually can’t do anything except lay in bed for 2-3 days and am pretty much useless. But I could at least do some work while I’m not sleeping.
- vlasev 6y agoI can confirm. I've mostly been working from my bed during these Covid times, and once I started going to the gym I was astonished by just how weak my back was, as opposed to my upper body or legs. But thankfully, it's building back up nicely.
- andreareina 6y agoIME it's not sitting or standing or lying down that's injurious, it's not moving. My pain to a large extent went away when I stopped staying so still. Now I change my posture on the regular, from leaning against the backrest to sitting away from it to taking little breaks to pace around a bit. Similarly, I used to get eye strain from all the screen time. Until I moved to an office with a view and I found myself staring out whenever I would zone out to think. Now I'm working from home and don't have the same inducement to look out and my eyes have started bothering me again. I try to observe 20-20-20 (every 20 minutes spend 20 seconds looking at something 20 feet away) but it's not quite the same.
- asdff 6y agoI think it's pretty healthy to get up and go walk to a window to stare out of it for a spell. I've been trying to take short walks around my block throughout the day to prevent any soreness or posture issues, as well. I didn't realize it, but back before the pandemic I was walking probably 5 miles a day at least commuting and walking around work, plus a dozen or so flights of stairs.
- dkersten 6y agoI used to commute to a city from which I live about an hour by train away. I worked from home a lot, but would travel there a lot too and every day I did, I easily walked over 10km each day, since I walked to and from the train station on both sides and in the city I'd walk everywhere too if I was going anywhere for lunch or after work, so it added up very quickly. With covid, I haven't been since early this year and I definitely miss all the walking. I try to go for walks here, but when I went to work there, it was an unconscious thing that I just did without thinking, while here its a decision I have to consciously make, which makes it a lot harder.
- djeiasbsbo 6y agoI am aware of this which is why I have always wanted one of those standing table treadmill combinations. I'm just not sure that I could actually work and concentrate while running... maybe if the table somehow compensated for the shaking caused by running on the treadmill. Or maybe one could use a VR headset instead of a regular display.
- amelius 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_atrophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_atrophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_ulcer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_ulcer
- mchanson 6y agoContent warning at that Pressure Ulcer click. Its rough and probably NSFW.
- hombre_fatal 6y agoWhile sitting or laying at a desk all day, you'd have to try very very hard to get a bed sore from doing it, wincing through quite a bit of pain and itching and discomfort to remain seated. There's a reason the guy in the image is like 90+ years old and either suffers from immobility and/or nerve issues. Anyone more healthy than that would feel the need to squirm and get up long before one would form. Also, the way we sit in a chair isn't exactly activating any muscles over just laying down or reclining in a La-z-boy. For that reason I do like the idea of sitting on one of those inflatable yoga balls when I'm not standing. I bet you could burn an extra 200 calories a day just incidentally bouncing as you ponder HN.
- refurb 6y agoWhy is this downvoted? It’s accurate - healthy, mobile-able individuals don’t get pressure ulcers. You’ll shift your weight and move around enough to avoid any damage. It’s folks who are bedridden and don’t have the ability to move themselves around that get pressure ulcers. Combine that with poor circulation and potential nerve damage (diabetes) and it’s not hard to do. A health 35 year old? You’d have to force yourself to get a pressure ulcer.
- C1sc0cat 6y agocough bed sores
- Analemma_ 6y agoIt is kind of true. Humans are only bipedal thanks to some fairly recent evolutionary hacks, and not all the bugs have been worked out yet. It's totally possible for both sitting and standing to be bad for you.
- tqi 6y ago"The best position is the next position"
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoWhen I had my spine surgery and was bed-ridden I scoured the web for such a setup which will help me use a laptop in bed without moving my neck and wasn't able to find anything practical. I've now come to the conclusion that low latency video glasses/headset connected as external display to the laptop/smartphone is a better solution for that problem as it doesn't require any of these contraptions; But I'm still in search of one[1]. [1]https://needgap.com/problems/16-wearable-low-latency-display-for-computers-display-wearables https://needgap.com/problems/16-wearable-low-latency-display...
- abdullahkhalids 6y agoPoint a projector at your ceiling.
- jedberg 6y agoThere is a company that is solving that! https://immersedvr.com https://immersedvr.com Disclaimer: I'm an investor in Immersed, but I invested because I loved the product!
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoThanks I think I've seen that, unfortunately I suffer from extreme simulation sickness, can't even play Minecraft and hence I'm exploring non-VR direct display glasses. But, those who have no issues with VR might indeed find immersedvr useful.
- vanusa 6y agoThe point is: having another fundamental class of postures available - in this case "lying" (in addition to sitting and standing) - increases our flexibility (and potential for respite) by approximately 33 percent. For people suffering from severe RSI -- especially those for whom essentially any amount of sitting in one class (say "sitting"), even in difference positions within that class -- becomes unbearable for more than an hour or so -- then this 33 percent can be of significant impact. Also - for some people standing just doesn't work (for more than very short intervals). So in fact the lying option provides significantly more respite potential (50 percent).
- Shivetya 6y agomy favorite feature of my standing desk is being able to have the exact height I need at any time which mostly does not involve standing
- coldtea 6y ago>Nobody ever says anything bad about laying dow Google "pressure ulcer" / "bedsore".