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The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows wh
by Geezus_42 6y ago
The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.
- tesseract 6y agoDo you really think controlling your local desktop is an API feature that web browsers should provide to web apps?
- infogulch 6y agoStated "Should local desktop control API be widely available to web apps and be commonly used?", the answer is surely no. "Should local desktop control be a feature that can be enabled through web browsers for users who choose to use it with certain sites?" Eh, this is not so clear. What if by some magical turn of events Zoom decided on a drunken whim that user privacy is very important, and strongly encouraged use of web over desktop, should they just axe that feature? Back in reality, Zoom couldn't even consider that course of action until the web supports it. Maybe do it by requiring users to install an extension that's granted remote desktop permission for a particular site. Which would at least allow the extension to be reviewed and audited.
- CydeWeys 6y agoChrome Remote Desktop does it (requires a browser extension though I think).
- londons_explore 6y agoAnd the browser extension runs a native .exe file behind the scenes...
- Alupis 6y agoFor remote support, you may want to look into a more purpose-built system, such as TeamViewer or LogMeIn Rescue.
- basch 6y agoIf youre ok trusting smaller companies, AeroAdmin is a working alternative. https://www.aeroadmin.com/ https://www.aeroadmin.com/
- RandomBacon 6y agoLast time I spoke with TeamViewer, they still wouldn't admit they were hacked. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826431 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826431 (TeamViewer denies hack after PCs hijacked, PayPal accounts drained)
- JamesSwift 6y agoYep, switched my parents off TeamViewer after that and have blacklisted it personally.
- Alupis 6y agoThat hack would have required the persistent login features to be installed on the target computers. For simple remote support, you shouldn't be doing that anyway.
- quadrangle 6y agoChicken-and-egg etc. People will know what Jitsi is when you use it with them. It's so simple, why not have them use it? Why do they have to know it already?
- dividedbyzero 6y agoWhen Teams breaks, it's Teams's fault. When Jitsi breaks, it's your fault.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoBeen using jit.si for months with extended family (up to ~7 connections), not broken yet.
- boogies 6y agoSame, approximately. I got one literal grandma to use Jitsi, and all of my literal grandparents to use BigBlueButton, and the latter actually took effort. Jitsi is significantly easier to use than Zoom et al., requiring no account or anything but a browser even to host a meeting, and having an extremely intuitive UI compared to eg. Zoom, with eg. the "Raise Hand" button being a hand icon right on the bottom bar next to mute, etc. where there’s just empty space in Zoom, instead of buried under a "Participants" button. BigBlueButton is slightly less simple (eg. you need to log in to host, at least by clicking “Login with Google” or with Twitter or Microsoft) but both have worked flawlessly over dozens of meetings and been understandable to my grandparents.
- krageon 6y agoThen you are lucky. It breaks frequently (but randomly) and when it does, it's almost impossible to debug unless you have access to the broken machine (and that is unlikely given that you're probably at home and so are they).
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoBreaks how? I've used it on about 6 devices personally, roughly a couple of times a week and all our extended family have used it on one or two devices - Win10, iPad (I gather), Android, and Linux. If it breaks a lot we must have been exceptionally lucky for none of us to have problems.
- brajesh 6y agoMS Teams has the same behaviour in web client. Is it browser-level restriction?
- CarbyAu 6y agoI love Jitsi and have a server VM at home for my personal use. But while it can share a desktop view I didn't think it allowed control?!? Man, this could be a family support game changer... Edit: requires Electron app it seems. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases Was on HN, some comments suggest the Electron app bundles Chromium.(Not sure if all Electron apps do this, I know nothing about Electron..yet.) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22830846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22830846 Edit sub basement 2: Yes, Electron apps include Chromium. "it combines the Chromium rendering engine and the Node.js runtime." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework)