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Del.icio.us

1649 points by kome 6y ago

SNACKeR99 6y ago
I loved del.icio.us back in the day. So much, that when it went down for a few days in 2003, I wrote a clone of it that I still use to this day, self-hosted. I also archive the text content of the page, which has saved me a few times. At this point I have about 11,000 bookmarked URLs, and if nothing else, it's a fun way to find out what I was doing on a given day.
raister 6y ago
Why? There's a lot of synchronising apps saving your bookmarks already - this wagon has passed...
- Arkanosis 6y ago
  Maciej is the owner of Pinboard.
- relyks 6y ago
  Maciej Ceglowski owns Pinboard. Perhaps, opening it up again will make using Pinboard more attractive. He could use it as a form of upselling
- deleted 6y ago
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- bhrgunatha 6y ago
  For me it was the communal curation effect. Find someone else with an obscure site or tag and check what else they have saved. It was a deep, deep rabbit hole.
- jimueller 6y ago
  The new owner is the developer of pinboard.in. The pinboard API was modeled after del.icio.us, so it might just be a data import into pinboard exercise.
- deleted 6y ago
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- sanxiyn 6y ago
  Delicious was a social bookmarking site, not a bookmark synchronisation backend.
wcerfgba 6y ago
Aw yeah! I used to use this site all the time, I had quite a lot of bookmarks in here. I think I have an export floating around somewhere but it will be great to see the site up again. I always found the folksonomy model for aggregating and finding content very interesting, unfortunately it seems to have fallen out of fashion as sites like del.icio.us disappeared.
- peebeebee 6y ago
  I still use pinboard.in Just a single guy programming it, and asking a small fee. No ads. No extra stupid features. The web like it should be IMHO.
  - gjkhkldajghl 6y ago
    Maciej, the person who posted this update to del.icio.us, is the owner and maintainer of pinboard.
    - ObsoleteNerd 6y ago
      I wonder how that's going to work, whether he's going to keep both as-is in parallel or what the plans are.
      - Gaelan 6y ago
        I believe he's said he will run Del.icio.us read-only.
- zozbot234 6y ago
  I wouldn't say that the model itself has disappeared, folksonomy is still the foundation for hashtags after all. It's just that few people are working on crowdsourced bookmark directories ala del.icio.us these days. Hopefully we'll end up with a federated standard for web directories, where users and trusted organizations can "endorse" their bookmark collections and put their reliable identity behind those endorsements.
maxbaines 6y ago
the bookmark space for me is still broken, I think delicious were close to fixing this in there early days pre yahoo. I cant wait to see all my bookmarks from 2000's probably just gifs but memories. good luck Maciej Ceglowski
- whatch 6y ago
  Haven't used the service from original post. But I already feel like that about the stuff I saved in Pocket since 2011 (now owned by Mozilla). Back then it was called Read It Later
  - zimmund 6y ago
    This also reminds me of my bookmarks from StumbleUpon. Flash games and cool sites -most of them not working today-.
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1123581321 6y ago
Why is this posted now? Macej bought Delicious a few years ago.
- relyks 6y ago
  Looks like he'll be putting it back up relatively soon according to what he posted there
  - 1123581321 6y ago
    Thanks. I reread the history and see that’s new information now. My fault for misremembering.
palotasb 6y ago
For future reference, this is what the page says as of this HN post: http://web.archive.org/web/20200729083406/http://del.icio.us/ http://web.archive.org/web/20200729083406/http://del.icio.us... > July 15, 2020 > Hi, my name is Maciej Ceglowski, the latest (and hopefully last) owner of del.icio.us. > The site will be back online soon. If you had data stored on del.icio.us after 2010, you'll be able to export it here. > [...] > You can reach me at maciej@ceglowski.com I also hope the site will be back online.
- encom 6y ago
  https://archive.ph/FNNuc https://archive.ph/FNNuc
- audiometry 6y ago
  Isn't this the guy that runs delicious's excellent successor Pinboard.io ?? I have been using pinboard ever since adn it's been a great service.
  - brigandish 6y ago
    https://pinboard.in/ https://pinboard.in/ (pinboard.io is apparently someone else's and up for sale - if it's yours, nicely done;)
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egorfine 6y ago
How relevant would be del.icio.us these days? (edit: typo)
- deleted 6y ago
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- eddiegroves 6y ago
  Very useful in my opinion, given the decline of Google Edit: Referring to ways of discovering non-mainstream content
- Scarblac 6y ago
  It's content discovery without any algorithms involved, and only works well on things that have actual URLs (so no dynamically generated "feeds" and so on). Who knows, maybe the world is thirsty for that.
  - sawaruna 6y ago
    I've been writing a bit about content discovery sans algorithms and I think there is at least some number of people would be interested in it. Social curation is appealing, though I'm not sure how popular a dedicated site for curated link sharing would be. While things like Reddit, Twitter, etc. are not 1 to 1 replacements, I think it serves a similar purpose for a lot of people.
    - zozbot234 6y ago
      Reddit, Twitter etc. are quite okay for naturally-ephemeral content but if you want to share a stable/growing bookmarks collection, or even cooperate with others sharing their own, there's nowhere to do it. DMOZ used to work quite well aside from the usual controversies relating to its centralized moderation, and a federated variety of that plus something like delicious/stumbleupon for "tags" and folksonomy would be interesting to experiment with.
      - sawaruna 6y ago
xabi 6y ago
Wow, it used to be one of my daily sites to visit. I also created a web called populicio.us with data from del.icio.us.
keith__talent 6y ago
Is this for real; it's like Jesus coming back and he might have my bookmarks, oh Crikes!
- mikro2nd 6y ago
  It'll have your bookmarks, but will they resolve to any pages/sites that still exist in 2020?
tunnuz 6y ago
Used to love this, thanks for the effort!
whym 6y ago
Ask HN: Why did delicious.com fail? (2017) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 After some digging, the above thread seemed like the most informative one as to what happened to Delicious (with a top comment from joshu, no less).
- conjectures 6y ago
  This made me nostalgic for RSS. Is anyone reviving that in a nice way?
  - mmahemoff 6y ago
    Newsletters are the new RSS. Different protocol, but simpler for non-technical users and a viable business model. Some recent apps (Stoop and HEY) make the reading experience more like traditional RSS readers too.
    - dajohnson89 6y ago
      adding rss feeds to (say) google reader doesn't require technical expertise. email newsletters require your email address, which is obviously prone to abuse and spam. newsletters aren't the new rss, but rather an arguably inferior replacement.
      - marcus_holmes 6y ago
        ah, but newsletters allow you to serve adverts, which is really why RSS "died".
        mmahemoff 6y ago
        And charging a recurring fee is also viable now in the age of patronage. It's more standard than charging for a premium RSS feed and easy for publishers on various systems to set up.
        captainmuon 6y ago
millstone 6y ago
This is old school weird web! For those who did not experience it, del.icio.us was a bookmarking service, and one of the first to have "tags", but also had a sense of fresh discovery. You can bookmark and tag your sites. But you can also browse the bookmarks and tags of people you know, and people they know, getting deeper, freed from algorithmic manipulation. Like Wikipedia, but you start at you.
- lowwave 6y ago
  did they get bought by yahoo a long long time ago?
  - millstone 6y ago
    They did, and let it rot, before shutting it down. At the time it seemed like a huge waste. But perhaps, if you can escape becoming the yahoo/AOL/etc homepage, you have a chance to live again.
- _the_inflator 6y ago
  Yep, I have fond memories of delicious (they featured a browser add-on to ease the bookmarking process). Delicious, Digg, Technorati, StumbledUpon - those were the days!
  - piva00 6y ago
    Delicious, Digg, StumbledUpon and slashdot were my main fresh content feed back in the days, found so many useful articles and fun websites through them...
    - doctor_eval 6y ago
      And Freshmeat...
  - pedrocx486 6y ago
    I'm still sad at how Technorati ended, loved the service back then.
nobrains 6y ago
Delicious popular was my Hacker News back in the day.
jacek 6y ago
I absolutely loved del.icio.us back in the day and I would love to use it again. No other method of bookmarking/collecting sites worked for me as well as del.icio.us. And I have never found the right alternative.
- test1235 6y ago
  pinboard was what I started paying for, after reading lots of HN praise. https://pinboard.in https://pinboard.in
  - MaxBarraclough 6y ago
    I'm another happy Pinboard customer. It's a fine no-nonsense replacement for Delicious.
  - invalidusernam3 6y ago
    The message on del.icio.us is by the same guy behind pinboard (Maciej Cegłowski)
- mtkd 6y ago
  I was only thinking of it last night when reading the Deja News discussion -- so many useful services that got acquired and ceased (Wunderlist, Skitch and many more)
  - amwelles 6y ago
    At least on Mac OS, Cleanshot[1] is a decent Skitch replacement if you were using it for marking up screenshots. 1. https://cleanshot.com/ https://cleanshot.com/
- factsaresacred 6y ago
  Diigo is arguably better (bookmarks, tags and highlights) and is going strong 10+ years later.
  - Tenoke 6y ago
jelv 6y ago
Pinboard/Maciej bought it 3 years ago and put it into read-only mode. Details: https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/06/pinboard_acquires_delicious/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/06/pinboard_acquires_delicious...
- omega3 6y ago
  > Do not attempt to compete with Pinboard. hilarious :)
- markstos 6y ago
  So is the news this month that he plans to make it read/write again?
  - maxerickson 6y ago
    I don't think write is in the works.
    - ihuman 6y ago
      If it's still read-only, then what's changing?
      - ink_13 6y ago
        You'll be able to get your old bookmarks out and then migrate to Pinboard.
  - idlewords 6y ago
    Someone just saw a parking page and it ends up on HN. I'm not sure why. But I'm bringing it back online with a pre-Yahoo design in a few days, once I finish stomping the bigger bugs. I run a for-profit bookmarking service based off of early del.icio.us so you can take a guess as to whether O.G. delicious will be read/write or read-only.
chanux 6y ago
This reminded me of rememberthemilk. It's still there! https://www.rememberthemilk.com/ https://www.rememberthemilk.com/
- kwanbix 6y ago
  What does it have to do with delicious?
  - devin 6y ago
    It was very much of the same era.
- immigrantsheep 6y ago
  I still use it :) It's been 12 years. Took a break for a while but back as a premium user.
- Louno 6y ago
  Premium user since 12years here. I absolutely love Remember the milk and the way it is run by its team.
CalRobert 6y ago
I never used del.icio.us but am I wrong in thinking that getting bookmarks from 10 years ago will just give a bunch of 404's?
- simongr3dal 6y ago
  Probably not, Maciej (from the GP link) did some testing on Pinboard's collection of bookmarked links back in 2011. https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/05/remembrance_of_links_past/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/05/remembrance_of_links_past/
  - emptyparadise 6y ago
    Would be interesting to see how things are 9 years later.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  That's why he offered an archiving service :) Seems to be doing ok for me at least - > 59795 of your bookmarks have been archived, representing 93% of your collection. 4380 bookmarks have not been stored due to errors: not found 2298, server error 970, (bunch of other small stuff)
  - CalRobert 6y ago
    Ah, cool!
nvarsj 6y ago
del.icio.us was the epitome of web search and discovery for me. I used it over other search engines back in the day. It was great at finding sites on esoteric topics. I think human curated search like this is the best kind. Unfortunately those days are long gone and we have the Web by Google now.
- julienchastang 6y ago
  I completely agree. del.icio.us search results were often phenomenally good, better than Google for certain types of searches at the time.
kerrsclyde 6y ago
I went to a talk by Joshua Schachter not that long after del.icio.us started gaining traction. It was a most fantastic time for the web, the possibilities seemed endless. I happen to think if it hadn't been bought by Yahoo! who seemed to have no vision for it then it would still be a tool I relied on.
- julienchastang 6y ago
  I am surprised to see Joshua Schachter only mentioned once throughout this entire thread. I loved the story of how he started Del.icio.us from essentially nothing. He was one of my heroes at the time.
  - joshu 6y ago
    :)
    - julienchastang 6y ago
      Josh, what are you up to these days? The wikipedia page dedicated to you is out-of-date.
      - joshu 6y ago
        I'm raising a venture fund and working on some new projects in the meantime. I also do a bunch of plotter art stuff at http://instagram.com/jodhus http://instagram.com/jodhus
        julienchastang 6y ago
        That's cool. We had a plotter (HP, I believe) in the early 80s. In some ways, nothing compares to old-style plotters.
        joshu 6y ago
        Yep. I use a CNC router converted to hold a paintbrush/pen/whatever, but also an HP 7575a, which is glorious.
tomduncalf 6y ago
Haha I swear I read something on here the other day about how trends are circular and it won't be long until del.icio.us is back, and here we are! I seem to recall del.icio.us being a great discovery tool, as well as a great way to catalog your bookmarks (another discovery tool that was great for a while was Stumbleupon). Will be interesting to see if anyone can bring back some of that "old school" curated/personal discovery vibe, which feels like it's becoming more relevant again with the recent discussion around Google results.
- Kunix 6y ago
  I loved StumbleUpon, and I find myself missing a discovery tool like that one. Reddit and other websites give me the impression of running in loop. If anyone has good discovery tools to recommend!
  - ergest 6y ago
    I second this! Algorithmic discovery tools solve for sameness whereas StumbleUpon solved for variety. It was a wonderful tool for breaking out of thought bubbles.
  - Sodman 6y ago
    As a college student outside of the US who had never heard of YCombinator, StumbleUpon was how I discovered HN. Now I work at startups and can't imagine going back to a bigger company. Strange to think that in a world where StumbleUpon didn't exist, I may still be working at BigCorp.
Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
Hmm next what, people will abandon Facebook and flock back to thematic PHPBB forums? (I honestly can't wait!)
- sn41 6y ago
  Honestly, I would definitely enjoy that. Somehow the discussion on such boards was much more engaging.
  - conjectures 6y ago
    It feels to me like some of that was having the same group of random strangers interacting. Rather than a constant flux of single comments.
    - Scarblac 6y ago
      And threads stick around, rather than disappear after a few days.
      - emptyparadise 6y ago
        Maybe that's why the web feels so different now from how it used to be. It's like being in a house where the walls and furniture shift whenever you aren't looking.
      - DharmaPolice 6y ago
        This is the biggest single change for me. On Reddit I sometimes see a thread which is exactly in line with my interests, I have extensive knowledge of and would love to discuss with people. And then I see it was posted 22 hours ago, and so it's almost pointless replying to it. Old forums had the opposite issue (with threads years old being "necro'd" back to the top, confusing everyone) but at least you could have a discussion over a couple of days.
        drawkbox 6y ago
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pvelagal 6y ago
I used delicious and i loved it.. i am wondering how it will look now..
chaz6 6y ago
del.icio.us was by far my favorite place to store bookmarks. I hope it comes back similar to the original. Thanks for keeping it alive!
glenstein 6y ago
Delicious was for a time at the cultural nerve center of the web, and I think had the potential to be something like a twitter or a reddit if stewarded correctly. I like to think there was an alternate reality where Yahoo didn't run itself into the ground, and took its properties: delicious, flickr, tumblr, its massive userbase across fantasy sports, groups, news, messenger, geocities and answers, its email service, and a better-executed alliance with Mozilla and rode them into prominence and relevance. All the pieces were there, just the management vision appears not to have been.
- mmahemoff 6y ago
  You can at least draw a line from Delicious to Reddit. Digg was originally modelled on the "popular" section of Delicious, an example of building a product out of a feature. Then Reddit saw a huge boost from the eventual Digg community exodus, after a time when Digg itself was the cultural nerve centre.
  - g5becks 6y ago
    I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. I can remember digg being bigger than everything besides maybe stumbleupon for a short while when it came to bookmarking sites.I never would have imagined reddit being what it is now.
    - bE9a3S5So8igd3 6y ago
      Digg was massive right at the tail end of seeker-net. I myself watched nearly every episode of Diggnation. Great times.
      - ngold 6y ago
        Kevin Rose had some great shows all the way back to tech tv Leo Laporte days. I wonder what happened to that guy. I would gladly trade a drunk Kevin for a Zuckerberg.
KingOfCoders 6y ago
Fond memories.
fab1an 6y ago
Hell yes. A few days ago I word by word googled "Delicious bookmarking alternative 2020" and was dismayed to find that there does not seem to exist anything as lightweight today. Can't wait to use delicious again.
- dchest 6y ago
  Pinboard.in, from the current owner of delicious?
- rawfan 6y ago
  100% use pinboard.in. Moved there when all the shenenigans with delicious started and never looked back. For a couple of bucks extra, I even have an archive of the websites I bookmarked so that I can still access them when they go down eventually.
gregjw 6y ago
I thought he offered to move everyone over to Pinboard after acquiring it, I wonder why hes reviving the site.
anildigital 6y ago
Wow! (I was early adopter and heavy use of del.icio.us) What about you?
Maha-pudma 6y ago
I used to use stumbleupon a lot. I had an xmarks account for bookmark syncing before that went paid for. I now just use Firefox's built in syncing service. Having never seen the point of a social bookmarking service can someone tell me reasons why I should consider using something like this? What were the benefits over my private bookmarks. I obviously remember it back in the day but viewed it the same I do most social networks, with suspicion.
- jwr 6y ago
  I use pinboard to get a bottomless bucket for interesting bookmarks that is shared between browsers and platforms. Browsers and platforms come and go, but Maciek's service stays reliably the same. I could use better (as in faster and incremental) search, but otherwise I love the functionality.
  - Maha-pudma 6y ago
    Fair play to the guy for creating pinboard, I don't use it, but assume since it's a subscription service he/the site isn't selling your data for advertising. I just can't see myself needing it, much as I like discovering new stuff (one of the reasons I'm on HN), I won't pay to store bookmarks.
gkanai 6y ago
Memepool was before del.icio.us but Memepool was not open to everyone...
- joshu 6y ago
  i'm working on bring it back, gen!
rafaelturk 6y ago
Good vibes!
qwerty456127 6y ago
Cool! I was looking for a service which would auto-tag my bookmarks kind of like Del.Icio.Us did long ago. Pocket requires a premium account for this (which I find slightly overpriced) so I was looking for alternatives (can anyone suggest any by the way?) and now I see Del.Icio.Us coming back! That's a lucky coincidence! I would prefer to avoid exposing the list of bookmarks I have made, however. All I want to share is tags, without information about who exactly bookmarked what.
dillutedfixer 6y ago
Awesome!! I hope they bring back that feature that would load a random bookmark. I used to discover so much weird and cool stuff on the internet that way, kinda like HN ;) Conversation starters for days. The Roy Orbison wrapped in clingfilm fanfic group was still by far the most “unique” thing I ever came across.
maxraz 6y ago
I almost forgot about this one. Nostalgic.
rasikjain 6y ago
Wow...I had ton of sites bookmarked in del.icio.us. Was using their service heavily. Good to see the effort by Maciej to bring it online.
EwanToo 6y ago
For those who are wondering who's involved, Maciej Ceglowski is the owner of https://pinboard.in/ https://pinboard.in/
fergie 6y ago
Great news! I was genuinely baffled when they shut it down. Easily one of the best and most influential websites of its time. In terms of content it was on a par with HN, Slashdot and Reddit, with a slight bias towards design.
westurner 6y ago
The Firefox (and Chromium) bookmarks storage and sync systems still don't persist tags! "Allow reading and writing bookmark tags" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916 Notes re: how this could be standardized with JSON-LD: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916#c116 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916#c116 The existing Web Experiment for persisting bookmark tags: https://github.com/azappella/webextension-experiment-tags/blob/master/experiments/tags/api.js https://github.com/azappella/webextension-experiment-tags/bl...
flocial 6y ago
This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on the web was only given weight by the merit or personality of what was said. No matter how popular you were on the old internet your voice was never loud enough to silence another. People were mostly anonymous (in practice because governments were caught off guard) and anyone could start a quirky website that was suddenly the talk of the town. I miss the old internet that inspired a lot of brilliant and all too idealistic people to code into the night and bring us these amazing innovations. In some ways Mark Zuckerberg was cut from the old cloth. The original Facebook was in many ways amazing, quickly evolving, and so open. Everything took a turn for the worse with advertising. Thank you Maciej for the trip down memory lane. Some of us may cling to the past but I hope there's another version of you and the old guard of the internet waiting for us or our future generations when we are gone.
- mercer 6y ago
  > In some ways Mark Zuckerberg was cut from the old cloth. The original Facebook was in many ways amazing, quickly evolving, and so open. Everything took a turn for the worse with advertising. At the same time, for me, Facebook was the first example of the internet becoming more samey, centralized and where its users became more consumers of a platform instead of individual creators. When I first got to use Facebook (after it had opened up to more than just users from particular US universities), I loved the fact that it had a cohesive look and feel. The newsfeed I was a bit less enthusiastic about, but hey it was convenient compared to visiting my friends' profile pages. But over time I kind of started missing actively visiting the 'page' of a friend, and especially the craziness in how they were able to modify their myspace/cu2/hyves.nl/etc. pages. Sure, it was often ugly as hell, filled with emoji, psychedelic backgrounds, and autoplaying music. but it was /them/ expressing themselves. I think a lot of what's turned out to be problematic about Facebook (and perhaps the broader internet) is that most platforms have completely locked down people's ability to express themselves to comments and a tiny little profile picture next to it.
simonswords82 6y ago
So weird, I was only thinking about del.icio.us yesterday. I tried both that and delicious.com and both were still offline < 24 hours ago. The timing of this is uncanny!
g5becks 6y ago
This makes me feel kind of nostalgic. Makes me think about when I first got into SEO and ezinearticles dominated serps, and the best places to post content was hubpages and squidoo. Reddit, digg, delicious, stumble upon, furl, fark, etc were just places we used to link to our article pages. I never really would’ve thought reddit would be what it is today.
iso1631 6y ago
I'm shocked by the number of people calling a website founded in 2003 as "old school". That was 3 years after the dot-com bust!
- codingdave 6y ago
  People born during the dotcom bust are now old enough to be starting in this industry. I think that qualifies anything from even near that era as "old school"
- benibela 6y ago
  We should bring back the webrings
  - onemoresoop 6y ago
    I remember webrings and browsing around was so serendipitous. Id certainly welcome them back
  - hundchenkatze 6y ago
    There's a couple starting back up. https://geekring.net/ https://geekring.net/ https://weirdwidewebring.net/ https://weirdwidewebring.net/ https://wiby.me/ https://wiby.me/ (not exactly a webring)
  - zanderwohl 6y ago
    webring.js - who's got dibs on the javascript library?
    - benibela 6y ago
      No! For the old-school feel it must be without javascript
- toyg 6y ago
  The web changed pretty dramatically around 2010, when the iphone and single-page apps took off and VPS became dirt cheap.
haywirez 6y ago
What a hero — love how the story of Pinboard stacks up against the long-term unsustainability of VC-funded and overhyped startups. Quote from the 2011 article[0]: "My dream is to keep this a one-person project," says Ceglowski. "I am competing against billionaires like the YouTube guys running Delicious and I can hold my own. The tools I use have gotten so good and they are the same ones that Yahoo and Google use." I hope to do the same one day with Soundcloud! [0] http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2094921_2094923_2094924-2,00.html http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288...
- neon_electro 6y ago
  Do you mean that you intend to buy Soundcloud's assets if they go under?
  - randall 6y ago
    *when lol.
- cced 6y ago
  Anyone have any idea what he’s referring to when he brings up his use of tools?
  - gonational 6y ago
    Probably WRT opensource tools (machine learning, databases, frameworks, etc.) that are now 80%[1] as good as what the biggest firms have access to. 1. entirely made-up number
    - jacobsenscott 6y ago
      It has been a while since I worked at a big firm, but my experience has always been that open source tools are always far superior.
  - pedrosanta 6y ago
    He has some (funny) info on Pinboard About page (https://pinboard.in/about https://pinboard.in/about) regarding 'the technology', perhaps he was mentioning that... > Pinboard is written in PHP and Perl. The site uses MySQL for data storage, Sphinx for search, Beanstalk as a message queue, and a combination of storage appliances and Amazon S3 to store backups. There is absolutely nothing interesting about the Pinboard architecture or implementation; I consider that a feature!
pupdogg 6y ago
Some great old memories right here! Thank you for doing this.
MH15 6y ago
I love how he doesn't even link to Pinboard. It seems he's doing this just out of personal obligation.
psychart 6y ago
What got me hooked on delicious back on the days was the addons, replace firefox bookmarks and well integrated add button, not like nowadays javascript bookmarklets opening a popup, im trying bookmarks.dev but dont see the point in using it how it is today. And of course suggested tags.
binarysneaker 6y ago
I gave up on delicious a long time ago, after it has changed hands several times and the code-base had reverted to a steaming pile of pre-web-2.0 shit. The browser extensions has all mostly died a long time before, and mobile apps were non existent. I tried every replacement, but nothing was quite like delicious was in the glory days. Then raindrop.io appeared. It's another one-dev project, but it's like a polished delicious, has working browser extensions, and even it's own mobile app. Worth a look, no affiliation. (Now if only I could figure out whether it's created by the GRU cyber division to gather intelligence )
- jahlove 6y ago
  https://raindrop.io https://raindrop.io
- wackget 6y ago
  Does it support working offline only? If it can't connect to the internet, it can't spy on you.
  - myth_drannon 6y ago
    Well, your saved bookmarks can be accessed by people you didn't not authorize (GRU...) which I guess the same applies for del.icio.us or pinboard.in (NSA and others).
- cloudier 6y ago
  What are your thoughts on pinboard and other delicious replacements?
12bits 6y ago
I find myself periodically looking for delicious alternatives. Out of all the web apps that have come and gone this was my fav. Bookmarking inside the browser has never come close to this for me.
sonicggg 6y ago
I posted the exact same crap 6 days ago : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23922252 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23922252 1p, 0 comments Not that it matters, but what is the rule for something gaining traction here? It seems totally arbitrary.
- ralphael 6y ago
  luck of the draw, busy day on the site, time of day ..can be many things.
- Tenoke 6y ago
  Random chance and quite a lot of moderator curation.
circa 6y ago
wow great news. I used it all the time back in the day!
djsumdog 6y ago
I had the Delicious Firefox plugin until that stopped working. I've been meaning to go through the Firefox sqlite databases and try to export all my old bookmarks/tags that were synced. I can grep references to delicious in there, so they might still exist. I've poked around in the tables a little bit but haven't done any deep dives. I'm pretty sure I didn't opt in during the transfer and also I don't have access to the e-mail address I used on delicious, so my data, on that old service I'm sure is long gone.
microcolonel 6y ago
Awesome, I missed del.icio.us, it is my childhood.
crazygringo 6y ago
Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was there in my history, autosuggested, or my search engine would find it. So maybe it was when Chrome debuted the Omnibox? I suppose it was around the same time I started primarily accessing files on my computer/drive with search (Drive, Spotlight) rather than navigating folders. A few years later, I stopped organizing my 1000's of tracks into playlists by mood/theme, because now I can just think of a single track I'm in the mood for, and start a Spotify Radio based on that track. In other words: I no longer extensively curate, because you just don't have to anymore, beyond a kind of bare minimum (a few project folders, a mega "favorite tracks" playlist). So I guess I'm just curious: Delicious was wonderful when it existed. But even if it were brought back, is it a service people need anymore? Or have we moved on to a new paradigm?
- markstos 6y ago
  I use a bookmark service near daily. It's valuable when you have multiple machines and you prefer not to give Google all your bookmarks to sync through their servers.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  I am working on something similar. Bookmarks are still usable because Google is pretty bad for some obscure queries and they work as a reminder more for me. Search engines require active discovery. You can find most of the links posted here on HN. Why have HN? It's curated, have social elements and passive. You just sit back and click rather than coming up with something interesting to search for. I am still surprised google hasn't come up with a passive consumption of their search engine. It seems like something they can do. Google feed doesn't have social elements to it so I wouldn't count it in. Google Plus was a failure.
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donatj 6y ago
Interesting. I was literally clearing out my bookmark bar the other day and way at the end was a link to del.icio.us and it didn't work. Interesting to see it picked up again.
cryptos 6y ago
I had a large link collection there, but migrated away when the stumbling began. After trying some of these services, I've settled with diigo.com and never looked back. It seems to be a rock solid business that won't appear anytime soon. As much as I like the idea of a one-man show like pinboard, I don't want to trust thousands of links to a service with a "bus factor" of 1.
kontxt 6y ago
Kontxt.io is a modern version of Del.icio.us, but it has advanced features like inline highlights, comments, etc.
known 6y ago
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man" --George Bernard Shaw
localhost 6y ago
Many, many years (15!) ago Jon Udell posted a screencast that introduced me to del.icio.us [1] through the lens of evolving tagging vocabularies in public discourse, and I still remember it to this day. Well worth watching to see this time capsule of what the web once was. [1] http://jonudell.net/udell/gems/delicious/delicious.html http://jonudell.net/udell/gems/delicious/delicious.html
VectorLock 6y ago
I started using del.icio.us VERY early in its inception but stopped well before the sell off. This part struck me though. >If you had data on the site before 2010, whether I still have it depends on whether you completed the "opt-in" process in 2011, when Yahoo transferred the site to AVOS. I'm not sure I ever remember doing that (although it was 9 years ago). But I think I still do have an old export left over... Hopefully there will be an import feature that can read the same data file, because I'd be interested in returning to it under Pinboard's stewardship.
jslakro 6y ago
After del.icio.us shutdown my bookmarking simply exploded, splashing in any existent service, Keep, twitter favs, feedly read-laters, g+ +1 posts, myself emails, plaintext, around 8 browsers favs (mobile and desktop) along 10 years.
notatoad 6y ago
2 weeks ago on twitter: "No, I am not bringing back the insanely popular free competitor to my primary source of income." https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1283932062794186752 https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1283932062794186752
kelvin0 6y ago
So I'm not clear on what this is about? I seem to be missing a piece of the puzzle. It seems related to some type of nostalgia regarding delicious? Glad if someone can clarify.
chriszhang 6y ago
I really think a bookmarking service alone is not sufficient for the modern web. The modern web is ripe with linkrot and disappearing websites. A bookmarking service combined with user friendly archival website or a user friendly IPFS is the way to go. I know there is the Wayback Machine but it takes so long to load an URL that the user experience suffers.
- azeirah 6y ago
  Pinboard Will archive your links for you, costs a little extra but whatever.
incanus77 6y ago
<3 this so much. I made my leap to self-employment the first time in 2006 on the back of a Mac del.icio.us client called Pukka. I've been an avid user of Pinboard (though, these days, not in the social way) but regardless I'm glad to see del.icio.us come back.
Jugurtha 6y ago
This feels like a John Connor pirate radio message.[0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7bSYG0qL3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7bSYG0qL3Y
thrownaway954 6y ago
didn't delicious.com point to del.icio.us??? this currently doesn't work.
nicc 6y ago
Nice to see Delicious in Poland!! GO, POLAND!
dirtyid 6y ago
Still one of my favourite urls of all time.
random3 6y ago
I just bookmarked this HN thread on pinboard which I've been using since 2011. I had used Delicious since 2007 or so until it got too painful to do anything. I'm thankful for pinboard. I wish there would be an equivalent for Google Reader and RSS too :)
- drukenemo 6y ago
  NetNewsWire is great:
fosco 6y ago
I do not use this or pinboard, but I like this guy. from: https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/07/eight_years_of_victory/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/07/eight_years_of_victory/ >As every year, I'd like to thank all Pinboard users, old and new, for their support and their custom. I know there are lots of rival bookmarking services out there. >I will consume them, one by one, like I consumed the pie. there is a picture of a beautiful pie. brilliant!
- recroad 6y ago
  I use pinboard. It breaks pretty frequently for me (I use the JSON feeds for some non-traditional purposes) but he's always quick to respond and get it back up, so that's what keeps me a paying customer. For normal bookmarking, it's a great app.
aahhahahaaa 6y ago
Maciej Cegłowski is a generally clever and entertaining guy. Check out his (mostly unrelated) blog too... it's very well written. https://idlewords.com/ https://idlewords.com/
nikolay 6y ago
Isn't this the Pinboard.in's author?
restlessdesign 6y ago
What a guy
dgeiser13 6y ago
People would have paid for del.icio.us. That just goes to show you how popular it was.

Del.icio.us

1649 points by kome 6y ago

I loved del.icio.us back in the day. So much, that when it went down for a few days in 2003, I wrote a clone of it that I still use to this day, self-hosted. I also archive the text content of the page, which has saved me a few times. At this point I have about 11,000 bookmarked URLs, and if nothing else, it's a fun way to find out what I was doing on a given day.

raister 6y ago

Why? There's a lot of synchronising apps saving your bookmarks already - this wagon has passed...

Arkanosis 6y ago
Maciej is the owner of Pinboard.
relyks 6y ago
Maciej Ceglowski owns Pinboard. Perhaps, opening it up again will make using Pinboard more attractive. He could use it as a form of upselling
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bhrgunatha 6y ago
For me it was the communal curation effect. Find someone else with an obscure site or tag and check what else they have saved. It was a deep, deep rabbit hole.
jimueller 6y ago
The new owner is the developer of pinboard.in. The pinboard API was modeled after del.icio.us, so it might just be a data import into pinboard exercise.
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sanxiyn 6y ago
Delicious was a social bookmarking site, not a bookmark synchronisation backend.

wcerfgba 6y ago

Aw yeah! I used to use this site all the time, I had quite a lot of bookmarks in here. I think I have an export floating around somewhere but it will be great to see the site up again. I always found the folksonomy model for aggregating and finding content very interesting, unfortunately it seems to have fallen out of fashion as sites like del.icio.us disappeared.

peebeebee 6y ago
I still use pinboard.in Just a single guy programming it, and asking a small fee. No ads. No extra stupid features. The web like it should be IMHO.
- gjkhkldajghl 6y ago
  Maciej, the person who posted this update to del.icio.us, is the owner and maintainer of pinboard.
  - ObsoleteNerd 6y ago
    I wonder how that's going to work, whether he's going to keep both as-is in parallel or what the plans are.
    - Gaelan 6y ago
      I believe he's said he will run Del.icio.us read-only.
zozbot234 6y ago
I wouldn't say that the model itself has disappeared, folksonomy is still the foundation for hashtags after all. It's just that few people are working on crowdsourced bookmark directories ala del.icio.us these days. Hopefully we'll end up with a federated standard for web directories, where users and trusted organizations can "endorse" their bookmark collections and put their reliable identity behind those endorsements.

maxbaines 6y ago

the bookmark space for me is still broken, I think delicious were close to fixing this in there early days pre yahoo. I cant wait to see all my bookmarks from 2000's probably just gifs but memories. good luck Maciej Ceglowski

whatch 6y ago
Haven't used the service from original post. But I already feel like that about the stuff I saved in Pocket since 2011 (now owned by Mozilla). Back then it was called Read It Later
- zimmund 6y ago
  This also reminds me of my bookmarks from StumbleUpon. Flash games and cool sites -most of them not working today-.

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1123581321 6y ago

Why is this posted now? Macej bought Delicious a few years ago.

relyks 6y ago
Looks like he'll be putting it back up relatively soon according to what he posted there
- 1123581321 6y ago
  Thanks. I reread the history and see that’s new information now. My fault for misremembering.

palotasb 6y ago

For future reference, this is what the page says as of this HN post: http://web.archive.org/web/20200729083406/http://del.icio.us/ http://web.archive.org/web/20200729083406/http://del.icio.us... > July 15, 2020 > Hi, my name is Maciej Ceglowski, the latest (and hopefully last) owner of del.icio.us. > The site will be back online soon. If you had data stored on del.icio.us after 2010, you'll be able to export it here. > [...] > You can reach me at maciej@ceglowski.com I also hope the site will be back online.

encom 6y ago
https://archive.ph/FNNuc https://archive.ph/FNNuc
audiometry 6y ago
Isn't this the guy that runs delicious's excellent successor Pinboard.io ?? I have been using pinboard ever since adn it's been a great service.
- brigandish 6y ago
  https://pinboard.in/ https://pinboard.in/ (pinboard.io is apparently someone else's and up for sale - if it's yours, nicely done;)
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egorfine 6y ago

How relevant would be del.icio.us these days? (edit: typo)

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eddiegroves 6y ago
Very useful in my opinion, given the decline of Google Edit: Referring to ways of discovering non-mainstream content
Scarblac 6y ago
It's content discovery without any algorithms involved, and only works well on things that have actual URLs (so no dynamically generated "feeds" and so on). Who knows, maybe the world is thirsty for that.
- sawaruna 6y ago
  I've been writing a bit about content discovery sans algorithms and I think there is at least some number of people would be interested in it. Social curation is appealing, though I'm not sure how popular a dedicated site for curated link sharing would be. While things like Reddit, Twitter, etc. are not 1 to 1 replacements, I think it serves a similar purpose for a lot of people.
  - zozbot234 6y ago
    Reddit, Twitter etc. are quite okay for naturally-ephemeral content but if you want to share a stable/growing bookmarks collection, or even cooperate with others sharing their own, there's nowhere to do it. DMOZ used to work quite well aside from the usual controversies relating to its centralized moderation, and a federated variety of that plus something like delicious/stumbleupon for "tags" and folksonomy would be interesting to experiment with.
    - sawaruna 6y ago

xabi 6y ago

Wow, it used to be one of my daily sites to visit. I also created a web called populicio.us with data from del.icio.us.

keith__talent 6y ago

Is this for real; it's like Jesus coming back and he might have my bookmarks, oh Crikes!

mikro2nd 6y ago
It'll have your bookmarks, but will they resolve to any pages/sites that still exist in 2020?

tunnuz 6y ago

Used to love this, thanks for the effort!

whym 6y ago

Ask HN: Why did delicious.com fail? (2017) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 After some digging, the above thread seemed like the most informative one as to what happened to Delicious (with a top comment from joshu, no less).

conjectures 6y ago
This made me nostalgic for RSS. Is anyone reviving that in a nice way?
- mmahemoff 6y ago
  Newsletters are the new RSS. Different protocol, but simpler for non-technical users and a viable business model. Some recent apps (Stoop and HEY) make the reading experience more like traditional RSS readers too.
  - dajohnson89 6y ago
    adding rss feeds to (say) google reader doesn't require technical expertise. email newsletters require your email address, which is obviously prone to abuse and spam. newsletters aren't the new rss, but rather an arguably inferior replacement.
    - marcus_holmes 6y ago
      ah, but newsletters allow you to serve adverts, which is really why RSS "died".
      - mmahemoff 6y ago
        And charging a recurring fee is also viable now in the age of patronage. It's more standard than charging for a premium RSS feed and easy for publishers on various systems to set up.
      - captainmuon 6y ago

millstone 6y ago

This is old school weird web! For those who did not experience it, del.icio.us was a bookmarking service, and one of the first to have "tags", but also had a sense of fresh discovery. You can bookmark and tag your sites. But you can also browse the bookmarks and tags of people you know, and people they know, getting deeper, freed from algorithmic manipulation. Like Wikipedia, but you start at you.

lowwave 6y ago
did they get bought by yahoo a long long time ago?
- millstone 6y ago
  They did, and let it rot, before shutting it down. At the time it seemed like a huge waste. But perhaps, if you can escape becoming the yahoo/AOL/etc homepage, you have a chance to live again.
_the_inflator 6y ago
Yep, I have fond memories of delicious (they featured a browser add-on to ease the bookmarking process). Delicious, Digg, Technorati, StumbledUpon - those were the days!
- piva00 6y ago
  Delicious, Digg, StumbledUpon and slashdot were my main fresh content feed back in the days, found so many useful articles and fun websites through them...
  - doctor_eval 6y ago
    And Freshmeat...
- pedrocx486 6y ago
  I'm still sad at how Technorati ended, loved the service back then.

nobrains 6y ago

Delicious popular was my Hacker News back in the day.

jacek 6y ago

I absolutely loved del.icio.us back in the day and I would love to use it again. No other method of bookmarking/collecting sites worked for me as well as del.icio.us. And I have never found the right alternative.

test1235 6y ago
pinboard was what I started paying for, after reading lots of HN praise. https://pinboard.in https://pinboard.in
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago
  I'm another happy Pinboard customer. It's a fine no-nonsense replacement for Delicious.
- invalidusernam3 6y ago
  The message on del.icio.us is by the same guy behind pinboard (Maciej Cegłowski)
mtkd 6y ago
I was only thinking of it last night when reading the Deja News discussion -- so many useful services that got acquired and ceased (Wunderlist, Skitch and many more)
- amwelles 6y ago
  At least on Mac OS, Cleanshot[1] is a decent Skitch replacement if you were using it for marking up screenshots. 1. https://cleanshot.com/ https://cleanshot.com/
factsaresacred 6y ago
Diigo is arguably better (bookmarks, tags and highlights) and is going strong 10+ years later.
- Tenoke 6y ago

jelv 6y ago

Pinboard/Maciej bought it 3 years ago and put it into read-only mode. Details: https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/06/pinboard_acquires_delicious/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/06/pinboard_acquires_delicious...

omega3 6y ago
> Do not attempt to compete with Pinboard. hilarious :)
markstos 6y ago
So is the news this month that he plans to make it read/write again?
- maxerickson 6y ago
  I don't think write is in the works.
  - ihuman 6y ago
    If it's still read-only, then what's changing?
    - ink_13 6y ago
      You'll be able to get your old bookmarks out and then migrate to Pinboard.
- idlewords 6y ago
  Someone just saw a parking page and it ends up on HN. I'm not sure why. But I'm bringing it back online with a pre-Yahoo design in a few days, once I finish stomping the bigger bugs. I run a for-profit bookmarking service based off of early del.icio.us so you can take a guess as to whether O.G. delicious will be read/write or read-only.

chanux 6y ago

This reminded me of rememberthemilk. It's still there! https://www.rememberthemilk.com/ https://www.rememberthemilk.com/

kwanbix 6y ago
What does it have to do with delicious?
- devin 6y ago
  It was very much of the same era.
immigrantsheep 6y ago
I still use it :) It's been 12 years. Took a break for a while but back as a premium user.
Louno 6y ago
Premium user since 12years here. I absolutely love Remember the milk and the way it is run by its team.

CalRobert 6y ago

I never used del.icio.us but am I wrong in thinking that getting bookmarks from 10 years ago will just give a bunch of 404's?

simongr3dal 6y ago
Probably not, Maciej (from the GP link) did some testing on Pinboard's collection of bookmarked links back in 2011. https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/05/remembrance_of_links_past/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/05/remembrance_of_links_past/
- emptyparadise 6y ago
  Would be interesting to see how things are 9 years later.
zimpenfish 6y ago
That's why he offered an archiving service :) Seems to be doing ok for me at least - > 59795 of your bookmarks have been archived, representing 93% of your collection. 4380 bookmarks have not been stored due to errors: not found 2298, server error 970, (bunch of other small stuff)
- CalRobert 6y ago
  Ah, cool!

nvarsj 6y ago

del.icio.us was the epitome of web search and discovery for me. I used it over other search engines back in the day. It was great at finding sites on esoteric topics. I think human curated search like this is the best kind. Unfortunately those days are long gone and we have the Web by Google now.

julienchastang 6y ago
I completely agree. del.icio.us search results were often phenomenally good, better than Google for certain types of searches at the time.

kerrsclyde 6y ago

I went to a talk by Joshua Schachter not that long after del.icio.us started gaining traction. It was a most fantastic time for the web, the possibilities seemed endless. I happen to think if it hadn't been bought by Yahoo! who seemed to have no vision for it then it would still be a tool I relied on.

julienchastang 6y ago
I am surprised to see Joshua Schachter only mentioned once throughout this entire thread. I loved the story of how he started Del.icio.us from essentially nothing. He was one of my heroes at the time.
- joshu 6y ago
  :)
  - julienchastang 6y ago
    Josh, what are you up to these days? The wikipedia page dedicated to you is out-of-date.
    - joshu 6y ago
      I'm raising a venture fund and working on some new projects in the meantime. I also do a bunch of plotter art stuff at http://instagram.com/jodhus http://instagram.com/jodhus
      - julienchastang 6y ago
        That's cool. We had a plotter (HP, I believe) in the early 80s. In some ways, nothing compares to old-style plotters.
        joshu 6y ago
        Yep. I use a CNC router converted to hold a paintbrush/pen/whatever, but also an HP 7575a, which is glorious.

tomduncalf 6y ago

Haha I swear I read something on here the other day about how trends are circular and it won't be long until del.icio.us is back, and here we are! I seem to recall del.icio.us being a great discovery tool, as well as a great way to catalog your bookmarks (another discovery tool that was great for a while was Stumbleupon). Will be interesting to see if anyone can bring back some of that "old school" curated/personal discovery vibe, which feels like it's becoming more relevant again with the recent discussion around Google results.

Kunix 6y ago
I loved StumbleUpon, and I find myself missing a discovery tool like that one. Reddit and other websites give me the impression of running in loop. If anyone has good discovery tools to recommend!
- ergest 6y ago
  I second this! Algorithmic discovery tools solve for sameness whereas StumbleUpon solved for variety. It was a wonderful tool for breaking out of thought bubbles.
- Sodman 6y ago
  As a college student outside of the US who had never heard of YCombinator, StumbleUpon was how I discovered HN. Now I work at startups and can't imagine going back to a bigger company. Strange to think that in a world where StumbleUpon didn't exist, I may still be working at BigCorp.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago

Hmm next what, people will abandon Facebook and flock back to thematic PHPBB forums? (I honestly can't wait!)

sn41 6y ago
Honestly, I would definitely enjoy that. Somehow the discussion on such boards was much more engaging.
- conjectures 6y ago
  It feels to me like some of that was having the same group of random strangers interacting. Rather than a constant flux of single comments.
  - Scarblac 6y ago
    And threads stick around, rather than disappear after a few days.
    - emptyparadise 6y ago
      Maybe that's why the web feels so different now from how it used to be. It's like being in a house where the walls and furniture shift whenever you aren't looking.
    - DharmaPolice 6y ago
      This is the biggest single change for me. On Reddit I sometimes see a thread which is exactly in line with my interests, I have extensive knowledge of and would love to discuss with people. And then I see it was posted 22 hours ago, and so it's almost pointless replying to it. Old forums had the opposite issue (with threads years old being "necro'd" back to the top, confusing everyone) but at least you could have a discussion over a couple of days.
      - drawkbox 6y ago

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pvelagal 6y ago

I used delicious and i loved it.. i am wondering how it will look now..

chaz6 6y ago

del.icio.us was by far my favorite place to store bookmarks. I hope it comes back similar to the original. Thanks for keeping it alive!

glenstein 6y ago

Delicious was for a time at the cultural nerve center of the web, and I think had the potential to be something like a twitter or a reddit if stewarded correctly. I like to think there was an alternate reality where Yahoo didn't run itself into the ground, and took its properties: delicious, flickr, tumblr, its massive userbase across fantasy sports, groups, news, messenger, geocities and answers, its email service, and a better-executed alliance with Mozilla and rode them into prominence and relevance. All the pieces were there, just the management vision appears not to have been.

mmahemoff 6y ago
You can at least draw a line from Delicious to Reddit. Digg was originally modelled on the "popular" section of Delicious, an example of building a product out of a feature. Then Reddit saw a huge boost from the eventual Digg community exodus, after a time when Digg itself was the cultural nerve centre.
- g5becks 6y ago
  I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. I can remember digg being bigger than everything besides maybe stumbleupon for a short while when it came to bookmarking sites.I never would have imagined reddit being what it is now.
  - bE9a3S5So8igd3 6y ago
    Digg was massive right at the tail end of seeker-net. I myself watched nearly every episode of Diggnation. Great times.
    - ngold 6y ago
      Kevin Rose had some great shows all the way back to tech tv Leo Laporte days. I wonder what happened to that guy. I would gladly trade a drunk Kevin for a Zuckerberg.

KingOfCoders 6y ago

Fond memories.

fab1an 6y ago

Hell yes. A few days ago I word by word googled "Delicious bookmarking alternative 2020" and was dismayed to find that there does not seem to exist anything as lightweight today. Can't wait to use delicious again.

dchest 6y ago
Pinboard.in, from the current owner of delicious?
rawfan 6y ago
100% use pinboard.in. Moved there when all the shenenigans with delicious started and never looked back. For a couple of bucks extra, I even have an archive of the websites I bookmarked so that I can still access them when they go down eventually.

gregjw 6y ago

I thought he offered to move everyone over to Pinboard after acquiring it, I wonder why hes reviving the site.

anildigital 6y ago

Wow! (I was early adopter and heavy use of del.icio.us) What about you?

Maha-pudma 6y ago

I used to use stumbleupon a lot. I had an xmarks account for bookmark syncing before that went paid for. I now just use Firefox's built in syncing service. Having never seen the point of a social bookmarking service can someone tell me reasons why I should consider using something like this? What were the benefits over my private bookmarks. I obviously remember it back in the day but viewed it the same I do most social networks, with suspicion.

jwr 6y ago
I use pinboard to get a bottomless bucket for interesting bookmarks that is shared between browsers and platforms. Browsers and platforms come and go, but Maciek's service stays reliably the same. I could use better (as in faster and incremental) search, but otherwise I love the functionality.
- Maha-pudma 6y ago
  Fair play to the guy for creating pinboard, I don't use it, but assume since it's a subscription service he/the site isn't selling your data for advertising. I just can't see myself needing it, much as I like discovering new stuff (one of the reasons I'm on HN), I won't pay to store bookmarks.

gkanai 6y ago

Memepool was before del.icio.us but Memepool was not open to everyone...

joshu 6y ago
i'm working on bring it back, gen!

rafaelturk 6y ago

Good vibes!

qwerty456127 6y ago

Cool! I was looking for a service which would auto-tag my bookmarks kind of like Del.Icio.Us did long ago. Pocket requires a premium account for this (which I find slightly overpriced) so I was looking for alternatives (can anyone suggest any by the way?) and now I see Del.Icio.Us coming back! That's a lucky coincidence! I would prefer to avoid exposing the list of bookmarks I have made, however. All I want to share is tags, without information about who exactly bookmarked what.

dillutedfixer 6y ago

Awesome!! I hope they bring back that feature that would load a random bookmark. I used to discover so much weird and cool stuff on the internet that way, kinda like HN ;) Conversation starters for days. The Roy Orbison wrapped in clingfilm fanfic group was still by far the most “unique” thing I ever came across.

maxraz 6y ago

I almost forgot about this one. Nostalgic.

rasikjain 6y ago

Wow...I had ton of sites bookmarked in del.icio.us. Was using their service heavily. Good to see the effort by Maciej to bring it online.

EwanToo 6y ago

For those who are wondering who's involved, Maciej Ceglowski is the owner of https://pinboard.in/ https://pinboard.in/

fergie 6y ago

Great news! I was genuinely baffled when they shut it down. Easily one of the best and most influential websites of its time. In terms of content it was on a par with HN, Slashdot and Reddit, with a slight bias towards design.

westurner 6y ago

The Firefox (and Chromium) bookmarks storage and sync systems still don't persist tags! "Allow reading and writing bookmark tags" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916 Notes re: how this could be standardized with JSON-LD: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916#c116 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916#c116 The existing Web Experiment for persisting bookmark tags: https://github.com/azappella/webextension-experiment-tags/blob/master/experiments/tags/api.js https://github.com/azappella/webextension-experiment-tags/bl...

flocial 6y ago

This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on the web was only given weight by the merit or personality of what was said. No matter how popular you were on the old internet your voice was never loud enough to silence another. People were mostly anonymous (in practice because governments were caught off guard) and anyone could start a quirky website that was suddenly the talk of the town. I miss the old internet that inspired a lot of brilliant and all too idealistic people to code into the night and bring us these amazing innovations. In some ways Mark Zuckerberg was cut from the old cloth. The original Facebook was in many ways amazing, quickly evolving, and so open. Everything took a turn for the worse with advertising. Thank you Maciej for the trip down memory lane. Some of us may cling to the past but I hope there's another version of you and the old guard of the internet waiting for us or our future generations when we are gone.

mercer 6y ago
> In some ways Mark Zuckerberg was cut from the old cloth. The original Facebook was in many ways amazing, quickly evolving, and so open. Everything took a turn for the worse with advertising. At the same time, for me, Facebook was the first example of the internet becoming more samey, centralized and where its users became more consumers of a platform instead of individual creators. When I first got to use Facebook (after it had opened up to more than just users from particular US universities), I loved the fact that it had a cohesive look and feel. The newsfeed I was a bit less enthusiastic about, but hey it was convenient compared to visiting my friends' profile pages. But over time I kind of started missing actively visiting the 'page' of a friend, and especially the craziness in how they were able to modify their myspace/cu2/hyves.nl/etc. pages. Sure, it was often ugly as hell, filled with emoji, psychedelic backgrounds, and autoplaying music. but it was /them/ expressing themselves. I think a lot of what's turned out to be problematic about Facebook (and perhaps the broader internet) is that most platforms have completely locked down people's ability to express themselves to comments and a tiny little profile picture next to it.

simonswords82 6y ago

So weird, I was only thinking about del.icio.us yesterday. I tried both that and delicious.com and both were still offline < 24 hours ago. The timing of this is uncanny!

g5becks 6y ago

This makes me feel kind of nostalgic. Makes me think about when I first got into SEO and ezinearticles dominated serps, and the best places to post content was hubpages and squidoo. Reddit, digg, delicious, stumble upon, furl, fark, etc were just places we used to link to our article pages. I never really would’ve thought reddit would be what it is today.

iso1631 6y ago

I'm shocked by the number of people calling a website founded in 2003 as "old school". That was 3 years after the dot-com bust!

codingdave 6y ago
People born during the dotcom bust are now old enough to be starting in this industry. I think that qualifies anything from even near that era as "old school"
benibela 6y ago
We should bring back the webrings
- onemoresoop 6y ago
  I remember webrings and browsing around was so serendipitous. Id certainly welcome them back
- hundchenkatze 6y ago
  There's a couple starting back up. https://geekring.net/ https://geekring.net/ https://weirdwidewebring.net/ https://weirdwidewebring.net/ https://wiby.me/ https://wiby.me/ (not exactly a webring)
- zanderwohl 6y ago
  webring.js - who's got dibs on the javascript library?
  - benibela 6y ago
    No! For the old-school feel it must be without javascript
toyg 6y ago
The web changed pretty dramatically around 2010, when the iphone and single-page apps took off and VPS became dirt cheap.

haywirez 6y ago

What a hero — love how the story of Pinboard stacks up against the long-term unsustainability of VC-funded and overhyped startups. Quote from the 2011 article[0]: "My dream is to keep this a one-person project," says Ceglowski. "I am competing against billionaires like the YouTube guys running Delicious and I can hold my own. The tools I use have gotten so good and they are the same ones that Yahoo and Google use." I hope to do the same one day with Soundcloud! [0] http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2094921_2094923_2094924-2,00.html http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288...

neon_electro 6y ago
Do you mean that you intend to buy Soundcloud's assets if they go under?
- randall 6y ago
  *when lol.
cced 6y ago
Anyone have any idea what he’s referring to when he brings up his use of tools?
- gonational 6y ago
  Probably WRT opensource tools (machine learning, databases, frameworks, etc.) that are now 80%[1] as good as what the biggest firms have access to. 1. entirely made-up number
  - jacobsenscott 6y ago
    It has been a while since I worked at a big firm, but my experience has always been that open source tools are always far superior.
- pedrosanta 6y ago
  He has some (funny) info on Pinboard About page (https://pinboard.in/about https://pinboard.in/about) regarding 'the technology', perhaps he was mentioning that... > Pinboard is written in PHP and Perl. The site uses MySQL for data storage, Sphinx for search, Beanstalk as a message queue, and a combination of storage appliances and Amazon S3 to store backups. There is absolutely nothing interesting about the Pinboard architecture or implementation; I consider that a feature!

pupdogg 6y ago

Some great old memories right here! Thank you for doing this.

MH15 6y ago

I love how he doesn't even link to Pinboard. It seems he's doing this just out of personal obligation.

psychart 6y ago

What got me hooked on delicious back on the days was the addons, replace firefox bookmarks and well integrated add button, not like nowadays javascript bookmarklets opening a popup, im trying bookmarks.dev but dont see the point in using it how it is today. And of course suggested tags.

binarysneaker 6y ago

I gave up on delicious a long time ago, after it has changed hands several times and the code-base had reverted to a steaming pile of pre-web-2.0 shit. The browser extensions has all mostly died a long time before, and mobile apps were non existent. I tried every replacement, but nothing was quite like delicious was in the glory days. Then raindrop.io appeared. It's another one-dev project, but it's like a polished delicious, has working browser extensions, and even it's own mobile app. Worth a look, no affiliation. (Now if only I could figure out whether it's created by the GRU cyber division to gather intelligence )

jahlove 6y ago
https://raindrop.io https://raindrop.io
wackget 6y ago
Does it support working offline only? If it can't connect to the internet, it can't spy on you.
- myth_drannon 6y ago
  Well, your saved bookmarks can be accessed by people you didn't not authorize (GRU...) which I guess the same applies for del.icio.us or pinboard.in (NSA and others).
cloudier 6y ago
What are your thoughts on pinboard and other delicious replacements?

12bits 6y ago

I find myself periodically looking for delicious alternatives. Out of all the web apps that have come and gone this was my fav. Bookmarking inside the browser has never come close to this for me.

sonicggg 6y ago

I posted the exact same crap 6 days ago : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23922252 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23922252 1p, 0 comments Not that it matters, but what is the rule for something gaining traction here? It seems totally arbitrary.

ralphael 6y ago
luck of the draw, busy day on the site, time of day ..can be many things.
Tenoke 6y ago
Random chance and quite a lot of moderator curation.

circa 6y ago

wow great news. I used it all the time back in the day!

djsumdog 6y ago

I had the Delicious Firefox plugin until that stopped working. I've been meaning to go through the Firefox sqlite databases and try to export all my old bookmarks/tags that were synced. I can grep references to delicious in there, so they might still exist. I've poked around in the tables a little bit but haven't done any deep dives. I'm pretty sure I didn't opt in during the transfer and also I don't have access to the e-mail address I used on delicious, so my data, on that old service I'm sure is long gone.

microcolonel 6y ago

Awesome, I missed del.icio.us, it is my childhood.

crazygringo 6y ago

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was there in my history, autosuggested, or my search engine would find it. So maybe it was when Chrome debuted the Omnibox? I suppose it was around the same time I started primarily accessing files on my computer/drive with search (Drive, Spotlight) rather than navigating folders. A few years later, I stopped organizing my 1000's of tracks into playlists by mood/theme, because now I can just think of a single track I'm in the mood for, and start a Spotify Radio based on that track. In other words: I no longer extensively curate, because you just don't have to anymore, beyond a kind of bare minimum (a few project folders, a mega "favorite tracks" playlist). So I guess I'm just curious: Delicious was wonderful when it existed. But even if it were brought back, is it a service people need anymore? Or have we moved on to a new paradigm?

markstos 6y ago
I use a bookmark service near daily. It's valuable when you have multiple machines and you prefer not to give Google all your bookmarks to sync through their servers.
searchableguy 6y ago
I am working on something similar. Bookmarks are still usable because Google is pretty bad for some obscure queries and they work as a reminder more for me. Search engines require active discovery. You can find most of the links posted here on HN. Why have HN? It's curated, have social elements and passive. You just sit back and click rather than coming up with something interesting to search for. I am still surprised google hasn't come up with a passive consumption of their search engine. It seems like something they can do. Google feed doesn't have social elements to it so I wouldn't count it in. Google Plus was a failure.
- coffeefirst 6y ago

donatj 6y ago

Interesting. I was literally clearing out my bookmark bar the other day and way at the end was a link to del.icio.us and it didn't work. Interesting to see it picked up again.

cryptos 6y ago

I had a large link collection there, but migrated away when the stumbling began. After trying some of these services, I've settled with diigo.com and never looked back. It seems to be a rock solid business that won't appear anytime soon. As much as I like the idea of a one-man show like pinboard, I don't want to trust thousands of links to a service with a "bus factor" of 1.

kontxt 6y ago

Kontxt.io is a modern version of Del.icio.us, but it has advanced features like inline highlights, comments, etc.

known 6y ago

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man" --George Bernard Shaw

localhost 6y ago

Many, many years (15!) ago Jon Udell posted a screencast that introduced me to del.icio.us [1] through the lens of evolving tagging vocabularies in public discourse, and I still remember it to this day. Well worth watching to see this time capsule of what the web once was. [1] http://jonudell.net/udell/gems/delicious/delicious.html http://jonudell.net/udell/gems/delicious/delicious.html

VectorLock 6y ago

I started using del.icio.us VERY early in its inception but stopped well before the sell off. This part struck me though. >If you had data on the site before 2010, whether I still have it depends on whether you completed the "opt-in" process in 2011, when Yahoo transferred the site to AVOS. I'm not sure I ever remember doing that (although it was 9 years ago). But I think I still do have an old export left over... Hopefully there will be an import feature that can read the same data file, because I'd be interested in returning to it under Pinboard's stewardship.

jslakro 6y ago

After del.icio.us shutdown my bookmarking simply exploded, splashing in any existent service, Keep, twitter favs, feedly read-laters, g+ +1 posts, myself emails, plaintext, around 8 browsers favs (mobile and desktop) along 10 years.

notatoad 6y ago

2 weeks ago on twitter: "No, I am not bringing back the insanely popular free competitor to my primary source of income." https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1283932062794186752 https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1283932062794186752

kelvin0 6y ago

So I'm not clear on what this is about? I seem to be missing a piece of the puzzle. It seems related to some type of nostalgia regarding delicious? Glad if someone can clarify.

chriszhang 6y ago

I really think a bookmarking service alone is not sufficient for the modern web. The modern web is ripe with linkrot and disappearing websites. A bookmarking service combined with user friendly archival website or a user friendly IPFS is the way to go. I know there is the Wayback Machine but it takes so long to load an URL that the user experience suffers.

azeirah 6y ago
Pinboard Will archive your links for you, costs a little extra but whatever.

incanus77 6y ago

<3 this so much. I made my leap to self-employment the first time in 2006 on the back of a Mac del.icio.us client called Pukka. I've been an avid user of Pinboard (though, these days, not in the social way) but regardless I'm glad to see del.icio.us come back.

Jugurtha 6y ago

This feels like a John Connor pirate radio message.[0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7bSYG0qL3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7bSYG0qL3Y

thrownaway954 6y ago

didn't delicious.com point to del.icio.us??? this currently doesn't work.

nicc 6y ago

Nice to see Delicious in Poland!! GO, POLAND!

dirtyid 6y ago

Still one of my favourite urls of all time.

random3 6y ago

I just bookmarked this HN thread on pinboard which I've been using since 2011. I had used Delicious since 2007 or so until it got too painful to do anything. I'm thankful for pinboard. I wish there would be an equivalent for Google Reader and RSS too :)

drukenemo 6y ago
NetNewsWire is great:

fosco 6y ago

I do not use this or pinboard, but I like this guy. from: https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/07/eight_years_of_victory/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/07/eight_years_of_victory/ >As every year, I'd like to thank all Pinboard users, old and new, for their support and their custom. I know there are lots of rival bookmarking services out there. >I will consume them, one by one, like I consumed the pie. there is a picture of a beautiful pie. brilliant!

recroad 6y ago
I use pinboard. It breaks pretty frequently for me (I use the JSON feeds for some non-traditional purposes) but he's always quick to respond and get it back up, so that's what keeps me a paying customer. For normal bookmarking, it's a great app.

aahhahahaaa 6y ago

Maciej Cegłowski is a generally clever and entertaining guy. Check out his (mostly unrelated) blog too... it's very well written. https://idlewords.com/ https://idlewords.com/

nikolay 6y ago

Isn't this the Pinboard.in's author?

restlessdesign 6y ago

What a guy

dgeiser13 6y ago

People would have paid for del.icio.us. That just goes to show you how popular it was.