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Amazon to add 75,000 more jobs amid coronavirus pandemic

97 points by hhs 7y ago

modsWork4appl 7y ago
"elected officials call to close the warehouse" How out of touch and uneducated are these people? Pandemics can't be stopped outside a vaccine. We are all going to catch it or be quarentined for 18 months. Want to flatten the curve? I could go to Walmart and interface with 50 people to get ibuprofen, or I can interface with 1 worker? We need to stop electing marketers and start electing people that understand math.
- ta134273 7y ago
  Don’t take ibuprofen or any NSAIDs
- Mountain_Skies 7y ago
  Most people are terrible at math. How would they ever be able to evaluate a candidate's math skills?
  - modsWork4appl 7y ago
    You make a good point. Only thing I could think of is credentialing.
- Reedx 7y ago
  Really hoping we can get away from marketers. Andrew Yang gave it a good shot, but the DNC and media weren't kind: https://www.axios.com/andrew-yang-2020-media-attention-acc2652a-e43b-45fb-8e88-42e606ab0be8.html https://www.axios.com/andrew-yang-2020-media-attention-acc26... https://vocal.media/theSwamp/a-visual-history-of-the-yang-media-blackout https://vocal.media/theSwamp/a-visual-history-of-the-yang-me... The whole structure of the debates and 24/7 news coverage is more about reality TV than any kind of substance. It's geared for soundbites and drama. So someone like Yang doesn't fit into that, but shines in long form formats like podcasts.
  - dangus 7y ago
    Andrew Yang is a nice guy but his "math" isn't actually all that good. His plan to use a VAT to pay for UBI is a regressive tax. People with lower incomes spend a higher percentage of their income on consumable goods. Putting a higher VAT or sales tax on everything to UBI puts a lot of the burden on the lower class to pay for this program. Someone with a much higher income has a number of ways to avoid this tax - they can invest in companies instead, they can buy real estate, they can take a jet to a different country and buy expensive stuff there instead of buying it in the country with a high VAT, like how people in Massachusetts buy their computers in New Hampshire. So, he "did the math," but that doesn't automatically make it good policy. The concept of UBI is a good idea to explore in the future. However, we shouldn't just assume that it's definitely going to work as intended, either: https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare-news/heikki-hiilamo-disappointing-results-from-the-finnish-basic-income-experiment https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare-news/heikki-h...
    - Reedx 7y ago
      His plan was to exempt such goods from VAT, so it wouldn't be regressive. That said, I wasn't entirely convinced by the Freedom Dividend and wish it hadn't been the centerpiece. What I was more interested in and really appreciated was his overall approach and focus on problems and solutions. An actual problem solver and uniter, not someone perpetuating the WWE reality TV show that is our politics.
      - JoshTko 7y ago
        What problems has Andrew Yang solved? My main concern with him is that he lacked any significant accomplishments for a presidential candidate.
      - dangus 7y ago
        Actually that's true, I wish I could take back my original comment at this point or modify it (too late). "Assuming all goods are subject to a VAT and the entire VAT is passed on to consumers, an individual would have to buy $120,000 worth of items before the extra costs associated with a VAT “use up” their UBI." That is...true, yes. Everyone's still getting the extra $1,000 a month. Using all of that up by spending on a 10% VAT puts you at spending $120,000 a year. So, while a VAT is not progressive, funneling it into UBI turns it into being progressive. That makes sense. You don't even need a goods exemption for that to work as intended. I am also not convinced on the idea of UBI. There needs to be more studies including large scale studies if possible. I am not convinced that the largest rent-seekers with limited competition and supply alternatives wouldn't just suck those income gains away - jobs with labor supply surplus might pay closer to the minimum wage, landlords might simply all agree to raise rent, Comcast will raise bills across the country, colleges raise tuition, etc. UBI sometimes feels like an oversimplification, one of those "easy solutions" that doesn't take a long time to write down and fits in a campaign slogan.
- flexie 7y ago
  Sad that Amazon is allowed to take an even bigger share of American online retail. They are raising their wage to $17 per hour. That's around $3,000 per month in stead of their usual $2,500 per month. Little vacation, few sick days.
  - twblalock 7y ago
    They are earning their market share by providing better service than other retailers. That's how it's supposed to work.
  - lkbm 7y ago
    > They are raising their wage to $17 per hour. That's around $3,000 per month in stead of their usual $2,500 per month. According to Google, that beats Walmart pay[0]. Less clear for Target[1]. Of course, if reports are even remotely accurate, Amazon warehouse working conditions are considerably worse. I don't know what other retailers pay, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're comparable. [0] https://www.google.com/search?q=Walmart+associate+pay https://www.google.com/search?q=Walmart+associate+pay [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=Target+worker+pay https://www.google.com/search?q=Target+worker+pay
- weddpros 7y ago
  The plague was stopped before vaccines existed... Same with many other pandemics. A pandemic is an epidemic that affects a larger area, not an unstoppable monster
  - ferzul 7y ago
    the plague rolled around for like half a millenium, it was constantly present in europe for more than three centuries. is that your plan?
    - alteria 7y ago
      I was looking through this list last week, and it was truly shocking how many epidemics were plague, even into the 19th (!!) century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
      - jmalicki 7y ago
        I guess you missed the 20th and 21st century bubonic plague outbreaks? It's still around, and is still found in places like the southwest US! https://www.cdc.gov/plague/resources/235098_plaguefactsheet_508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/plague/resources/235098_plaguefactsheet_...
    - weddpros 7y ago
      I'll be glad if we get a vaccine. If we don't, we must fight it nonetheless. In 2003, we stopped the SRAS epidemic, another coronavirus. We stopped it. There's no vaccine yet. The 2015 MERS isn't completely extinct but it's under control. Also I think Korea and a few other Asian countries will be virus free soon (those who thought the 2003/2015 epidemics)
- nostromo 7y ago
  Politicians right now are in, "it doesn't matter if we do the right thing, it matters that we look like we're taking authoritative action" mode. This happened after 9/11 too. Right now, 0.1% of the US has had Covid-19. For heard immunity we need that number to be at least 500 times larger. So, what's the plan here? Wait for a miracle that isn't coming? Stay in quarantine for a year and risk societal ruin?
  - balls187 7y ago
    > Right now, 0.1% of the US has had Covid-19. For heard immunity we need that number to be at least 500 times larger. Would deaths scale linearly with a 500x increase? How about the impact on our medical system, would that scale linearly with a 500x increase?
    - nostromo 7y ago
      And how will our lives look if we continue this quarantine for a decade -- which at our current level of infection (which has leveled off) is the minimum time it would take to gain heard immunity?
      - Invictus0 7y ago
        Herd immunity is not the only way out; there is a lot of room between a decade and the time to get a vaccine to market.
      - balls187 7y ago
        > And how will our lives look if we continue this quarantine for a decade Probably look at Iraq and Afghanistan has dealt with post 9/11. Speaking strictly in terms of the US, we'd be able to weather a 10-year lockdown. America is rich in natural resources, and has a large agricultural base. Our government can handle the basics: Drinking water Food Shelter The rest would be economic shifts, such as reduction in costs of living to account for a new economy that has shifted away from the ability to get together. I would speculate we're better off with the entirety of the economy being in shambles, than we would be by having rather high mortality rates, and overwhelming our health services. Let me post another question: What if you did not need to work to have your any of needs met?
Mountain_Skies 7y ago
How much of this is due to the surge in demand and how much is turnover (normal or due to pandemic issues)?
ttul 7y ago
To the elected officials advocating for closure of Amazon warehouses: would it be better to have 300M people visit Walmart or their local grocery store where they will interface with perhaps 50 others? Or to have 100,000 people visit their local Amazon warehouse where there are masks, temperature checks, intensive cleaning, etc? Even the most basic math on this indicates the Amazon option is far better for eradication of the pandemic than the Walmart option.
- massysett 7y ago
  They’d rather have neither, at least insofar as Amazon is shipping “non-essential” goods.
  - choward 7y ago
    They stopped accepting non-essential goods from third parties. Now they have the complete monopoly there.
    - toasterlovin 7y ago
      This is not true. They shut down inbound shipments of non-essentials for a few weeks, but they are in the process of re-opening up non-essential inbound shipments. We are now able to ship in all of our (non-essential) products. And we're hearing the same from most other sellers we know.
  - surge 7y ago
    We need non-essential trade, since if you shutdown all non-essential trade suddenly all non-essential people are excluded from the economy, and people have to eat and pay bills. If we're still selling goods online, non-essential manufacturers/workers at least have some economic movement.
    - massysett 7y ago
      Unfortunately this is not applied evenly. Amazon is selling all its non-essential stuff, while other vendors can’t sell their non-essential wares even online. I can buy kid workbooks and mechanical keyboards on Amazon, but School Zone and WASD Keyboards are closed.
A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
Hmm. I dislike this development. Let me explain. Amazon already has enormous market power and with the current pandemic, it is probably one of the few companies that will survive this largely unscathed; it may even be able to benefit. I am not completely sure as to why that is the case. My recent order says it will be delivered at the beginning of May. But then, they will pick up a lot of business from all the places that will have gone under. Still, how do you buy anything on Amazon, when it has a month wait time for things you want/need?
- ghaff 7y ago
  Delivery times clearly vary a lot. I have admittedly not tried to order any "quarantine goods" like webcams but I think everything I've ordered has arrived in two days.
- whb07 7y ago
  Where were you when Walmart had this same argument applied to it? Hows about when Kmart had it? Hows about Sears? .... you get the point.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
    I will admit that I am not sure I do understand your argument. For the record, I am never happy about too much power residing in too few hands. It rarely ends well. But neither Walmart, Kmart, nor Sears had as big of a grip on US economy as Amazon does simply, because Amazon is not just a giant online store. It is not apples to apples comparison. It is possible I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say. Care to elaborate?
    - bhupy 7y ago
      > But neither Walmart, Kmart, nor Sears had as big of a grip on US economy as Amazon does simply, because Amazon is not just a giant online store Citation needed — all three have enjoyed periods in history as dominant nationwide market leaders in retail. Sears' mail order catalog was essentially the pre-Internet Amazon, and commanded a comparable scale.
vizzah 7y ago
A lot more expenses for Amazon on their very low margin grocery (retail) business. People are panic-buying AMZN stock expecting this to reflect in a higher profits, which is very questionable. If Prime subscribers can't get their same/next day deliveries, Amazon might not get enough new subs, but could rather start losing them.
- koboll 7y ago
  > People are panic-buying AMZN stock expecting this to reflect in a higher profits, which is very questionable. Are we sure of that? I'd expect the rationale to look something more like "Amazon will grab a higher market share as a result of people switching to delivery during this crisis, which will result in higher profits down the road".
  - matwood 7y ago
    Exactly. People are learning to use Amazon for things they may have not used it before. And it's not just Amazon. HN users are by and large very technical and early adopters of tech services. The pandemic has forced the general person to learn how to use/try out these services.
  - paxys 7y ago
    The key is if people will continue to use Amazon after things have settled or just go back to their local stores.
- par 7y ago
  Not sure I agree with this thesis. I think after this, people will see Amazon in a new light. More like a railroad (of days past) or electric/cable company. A utility. People have very few places to turn to during this crisis, and Amazon happens to be there.
  - icelancer 7y ago
    >> More like a railroad (of darks past) or electric/cable company. A utility. If people take this literally then there will be strong push to nationalize it or break it up. I'm not sure Amazon wants that feeling...
floatingatoll 7y ago
Reuters is restating the "April 13" update at Amazon's press blog post here (which is updated each day without changing the URL): https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/amazons-actions-to-help-employees-communities-and-customers-affected-by-covid-19 https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/amazons-actions-to...
balls187 7y ago
OT: I'm curious what others experience has been with Amazon during the lockdown/shelter-in-place orders. For me, Amazon had turned into nearly a just in time service to acquire items. With the issues with quality, I started to move away from Amazon, and with the delivery time increase, I've all but stopped ordering from Amazon. Now, I shop at a local Kroger subsidiary (Fred Meyer), and anything I can't locally, I just go without, except in rare circumstances (like a z270 mobo).
rajnathani 7y ago
If it isn’t clear, these 75,000 jobs are in addition to the 100,000 jobs which Amazon announced they would hire about a month ago. The article states that they’ve already(!) hired the previously announced 100,000 jobs.
williesleg 7y ago
We need more robots. And basic universal income. Oh, and pizza.

97 points by hhs 7y ago

"elected officials call to close the warehouse" How out of touch and uneducated are these people? Pandemics can't be stopped outside a vaccine. We are all going to catch it or be quarentined for 18 months. Want to flatten the curve? I could go to Walmart and interface with 50 people to get ibuprofen, or I can interface with 1 worker? We need to stop electing marketers and start electing people that understand math.

ta134273 7y ago
Don’t take ibuprofen or any NSAIDs
Mountain_Skies 7y ago
Most people are terrible at math. How would they ever be able to evaluate a candidate's math skills?
- modsWork4appl 7y ago
  You make a good point. Only thing I could think of is credentialing.
Reedx 7y ago
Really hoping we can get away from marketers. Andrew Yang gave it a good shot, but the DNC and media weren't kind: https://www.axios.com/andrew-yang-2020-media-attention-acc2652a-e43b-45fb-8e88-42e606ab0be8.html https://www.axios.com/andrew-yang-2020-media-attention-acc26... https://vocal.media/theSwamp/a-visual-history-of-the-yang-media-blackout https://vocal.media/theSwamp/a-visual-history-of-the-yang-me... The whole structure of the debates and 24/7 news coverage is more about reality TV than any kind of substance. It's geared for soundbites and drama. So someone like Yang doesn't fit into that, but shines in long form formats like podcasts.
- dangus 7y ago
  Andrew Yang is a nice guy but his "math" isn't actually all that good. His plan to use a VAT to pay for UBI is a regressive tax. People with lower incomes spend a higher percentage of their income on consumable goods. Putting a higher VAT or sales tax on everything to UBI puts a lot of the burden on the lower class to pay for this program. Someone with a much higher income has a number of ways to avoid this tax - they can invest in companies instead, they can buy real estate, they can take a jet to a different country and buy expensive stuff there instead of buying it in the country with a high VAT, like how people in Massachusetts buy their computers in New Hampshire. So, he "did the math," but that doesn't automatically make it good policy. The concept of UBI is a good idea to explore in the future. However, we shouldn't just assume that it's definitely going to work as intended, either: https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare-news/heikki-hiilamo-disappointing-results-from-the-finnish-basic-income-experiment https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/nordic-welfare-news/heikki-h...
  - Reedx 7y ago
    His plan was to exempt such goods from VAT, so it wouldn't be regressive. That said, I wasn't entirely convinced by the Freedom Dividend and wish it hadn't been the centerpiece. What I was more interested in and really appreciated was his overall approach and focus on problems and solutions. An actual problem solver and uniter, not someone perpetuating the WWE reality TV show that is our politics.
    - JoshTko 7y ago
      What problems has Andrew Yang solved? My main concern with him is that he lacked any significant accomplishments for a presidential candidate.
    - dangus 7y ago
      Actually that's true, I wish I could take back my original comment at this point or modify it (too late). "Assuming all goods are subject to a VAT and the entire VAT is passed on to consumers, an individual would have to buy $120,000 worth of items before the extra costs associated with a VAT “use up” their UBI." That is...true, yes. Everyone's still getting the extra $1,000 a month. Using all of that up by spending on a 10% VAT puts you at spending $120,000 a year. So, while a VAT is not progressive, funneling it into UBI turns it into being progressive. That makes sense. You don't even need a goods exemption for that to work as intended. I am also not convinced on the idea of UBI. There needs to be more studies including large scale studies if possible. I am not convinced that the largest rent-seekers with limited competition and supply alternatives wouldn't just suck those income gains away - jobs with labor supply surplus might pay closer to the minimum wage, landlords might simply all agree to raise rent, Comcast will raise bills across the country, colleges raise tuition, etc. UBI sometimes feels like an oversimplification, one of those "easy solutions" that doesn't take a long time to write down and fits in a campaign slogan.
flexie 7y ago
Sad that Amazon is allowed to take an even bigger share of American online retail. They are raising their wage to $17 per hour. That's around $3,000 per month in stead of their usual $2,500 per month. Little vacation, few sick days.
- twblalock 7y ago
  They are earning their market share by providing better service than other retailers. That's how it's supposed to work.
- lkbm 7y ago
  > They are raising their wage to $17 per hour. That's around $3,000 per month in stead of their usual $2,500 per month. According to Google, that beats Walmart pay[0]. Less clear for Target[1]. Of course, if reports are even remotely accurate, Amazon warehouse working conditions are considerably worse. I don't know what other retailers pay, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're comparable. [0] https://www.google.com/search?q=Walmart+associate+pay https://www.google.com/search?q=Walmart+associate+pay [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=Target+worker+pay https://www.google.com/search?q=Target+worker+pay
weddpros 7y ago
The plague was stopped before vaccines existed... Same with many other pandemics. A pandemic is an epidemic that affects a larger area, not an unstoppable monster
- ferzul 7y ago
  the plague rolled around for like half a millenium, it was constantly present in europe for more than three centuries. is that your plan?
  - alteria 7y ago
    I was looking through this list last week, and it was truly shocking how many epidemics were plague, even into the 19th (!!) century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
    - jmalicki 7y ago
      I guess you missed the 20th and 21st century bubonic plague outbreaks? It's still around, and is still found in places like the southwest US! https://www.cdc.gov/plague/resources/235098_plaguefactsheet_508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/plague/resources/235098_plaguefactsheet_...
  - weddpros 7y ago
    I'll be glad if we get a vaccine. If we don't, we must fight it nonetheless. In 2003, we stopped the SRAS epidemic, another coronavirus. We stopped it. There's no vaccine yet. The 2015 MERS isn't completely extinct but it's under control. Also I think Korea and a few other Asian countries will be virus free soon (those who thought the 2003/2015 epidemics)
nostromo 7y ago
Politicians right now are in, "it doesn't matter if we do the right thing, it matters that we look like we're taking authoritative action" mode. This happened after 9/11 too. Right now, 0.1% of the US has had Covid-19. For heard immunity we need that number to be at least 500 times larger. So, what's the plan here? Wait for a miracle that isn't coming? Stay in quarantine for a year and risk societal ruin?
- balls187 7y ago
  > Right now, 0.1% of the US has had Covid-19. For heard immunity we need that number to be at least 500 times larger. Would deaths scale linearly with a 500x increase? How about the impact on our medical system, would that scale linearly with a 500x increase?
  - nostromo 7y ago
    And how will our lives look if we continue this quarantine for a decade -- which at our current level of infection (which has leveled off) is the minimum time it would take to gain heard immunity?
    - Invictus0 7y ago
      Herd immunity is not the only way out; there is a lot of room between a decade and the time to get a vaccine to market.
    - balls187 7y ago
      > And how will our lives look if we continue this quarantine for a decade Probably look at Iraq and Afghanistan has dealt with post 9/11. Speaking strictly in terms of the US, we'd be able to weather a 10-year lockdown. America is rich in natural resources, and has a large agricultural base. Our government can handle the basics: Drinking water Food Shelter The rest would be economic shifts, such as reduction in costs of living to account for a new economy that has shifted away from the ability to get together. I would speculate we're better off with the entirety of the economy being in shambles, than we would be by having rather high mortality rates, and overwhelming our health services. Let me post another question: What if you did not need to work to have your any of needs met?

Mountain_Skies 7y ago

How much of this is due to the surge in demand and how much is turnover (normal or due to pandemic issues)?

ttul 7y ago

To the elected officials advocating for closure of Amazon warehouses: would it be better to have 300M people visit Walmart or their local grocery store where they will interface with perhaps 50 others? Or to have 100,000 people visit their local Amazon warehouse where there are masks, temperature checks, intensive cleaning, etc? Even the most basic math on this indicates the Amazon option is far better for eradication of the pandemic than the Walmart option.

massysett 7y ago
They’d rather have neither, at least insofar as Amazon is shipping “non-essential” goods.
- choward 7y ago
  They stopped accepting non-essential goods from third parties. Now they have the complete monopoly there.
  - toasterlovin 7y ago
    This is not true. They shut down inbound shipments of non-essentials for a few weeks, but they are in the process of re-opening up non-essential inbound shipments. We are now able to ship in all of our (non-essential) products. And we're hearing the same from most other sellers we know.
- surge 7y ago
  We need non-essential trade, since if you shutdown all non-essential trade suddenly all non-essential people are excluded from the economy, and people have to eat and pay bills. If we're still selling goods online, non-essential manufacturers/workers at least have some economic movement.
  - massysett 7y ago
    Unfortunately this is not applied evenly. Amazon is selling all its non-essential stuff, while other vendors can’t sell their non-essential wares even online. I can buy kid workbooks and mechanical keyboards on Amazon, but School Zone and WASD Keyboards are closed.

A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago

Hmm. I dislike this development. Let me explain. Amazon already has enormous market power and with the current pandemic, it is probably one of the few companies that will survive this largely unscathed; it may even be able to benefit. I am not completely sure as to why that is the case. My recent order says it will be delivered at the beginning of May. But then, they will pick up a lot of business from all the places that will have gone under. Still, how do you buy anything on Amazon, when it has a month wait time for things you want/need?

ghaff 7y ago
Delivery times clearly vary a lot. I have admittedly not tried to order any "quarantine goods" like webcams but I think everything I've ordered has arrived in two days.
whb07 7y ago
Where were you when Walmart had this same argument applied to it? Hows about when Kmart had it? Hows about Sears? .... you get the point.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
  I will admit that I am not sure I do understand your argument. For the record, I am never happy about too much power residing in too few hands. It rarely ends well. But neither Walmart, Kmart, nor Sears had as big of a grip on US economy as Amazon does simply, because Amazon is not just a giant online store. It is not apples to apples comparison. It is possible I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say. Care to elaborate?
  - bhupy 7y ago
    > But neither Walmart, Kmart, nor Sears had as big of a grip on US economy as Amazon does simply, because Amazon is not just a giant online store Citation needed — all three have enjoyed periods in history as dominant nationwide market leaders in retail. Sears' mail order catalog was essentially the pre-Internet Amazon, and commanded a comparable scale.

vizzah 7y ago

A lot more expenses for Amazon on their very low margin grocery (retail) business. People are panic-buying AMZN stock expecting this to reflect in a higher profits, which is very questionable. If Prime subscribers can't get their same/next day deliveries, Amazon might not get enough new subs, but could rather start losing them.

koboll 7y ago
> People are panic-buying AMZN stock expecting this to reflect in a higher profits, which is very questionable. Are we sure of that? I'd expect the rationale to look something more like "Amazon will grab a higher market share as a result of people switching to delivery during this crisis, which will result in higher profits down the road".
- matwood 7y ago
  Exactly. People are learning to use Amazon for things they may have not used it before. And it's not just Amazon. HN users are by and large very technical and early adopters of tech services. The pandemic has forced the general person to learn how to use/try out these services.
- paxys 7y ago
  The key is if people will continue to use Amazon after things have settled or just go back to their local stores.
par 7y ago
Not sure I agree with this thesis. I think after this, people will see Amazon in a new light. More like a railroad (of days past) or electric/cable company. A utility. People have very few places to turn to during this crisis, and Amazon happens to be there.
- icelancer 7y ago
  >> More like a railroad (of darks past) or electric/cable company. A utility. If people take this literally then there will be strong push to nationalize it or break it up. I'm not sure Amazon wants that feeling...

floatingatoll 7y ago

Reuters is restating the "April 13" update at Amazon's press blog post here (which is updated each day without changing the URL): https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/amazons-actions-to-help-employees-communities-and-customers-affected-by-covid-19 https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/amazons-actions-to...

balls187 7y ago

OT: I'm curious what others experience has been with Amazon during the lockdown/shelter-in-place orders. For me, Amazon had turned into nearly a just in time service to acquire items. With the issues with quality, I started to move away from Amazon, and with the delivery time increase, I've all but stopped ordering from Amazon. Now, I shop at a local Kroger subsidiary (Fred Meyer), and anything I can't locally, I just go without, except in rare circumstances (like a z270 mobo).

rajnathani 7y ago

If it isn’t clear, these 75,000 jobs are in addition to the 100,000 jobs which Amazon announced they would hire about a month ago. The article states that they’ve already(!) hired the previously announced 100,000 jobs.

williesleg 7y ago

We need more robots. And basic universal income. Oh, and pizza.