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Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams
A Logitech 925e ($99 USD MSRP) currently goes for $180-$260 on eBay and $358 on Amazon.
- Kaibeezy 6y agoAnd flour. Had to put my sourdough starter in cryosleep.
- 24t 6y agoSince retail and commercial supply chains are different I'd suggest reaching out to a restaurant you have good rapport with or contacting a local drygoods supplier. Flour is out there it's just not making it to the shelves.
- Kaibeezy 6y agoOoh, good idea. I have a friend who’s got her restaurant on life support. She could bag up flour and sell it!
- OJFord 6y agoIn the UK a few weeks ago commercial suppliers were complaining that they had all this stock they couldn't shift because it was packaged incorrectly - not flashily marketed or sized too large. Now the ones that did open up to retail customers seem widely sold out of the desirable stuff...
- _ph_ 6y agoOr just ask at the next bakery.
- Raed667 6y agoI had this exact same issue, but if you're willing to buy "pizza-packs" or "bread-packs" or whatever marketing they put on it. It's just flour + sourdough for a markup.
- newman8r 6y agoyou can check with with https://centralmilling.com/store/#central-milling-organic https://centralmilling.com/store/#central-milling-organic most of it's out of stock as of right now, but they're updating their stock every day. I was able to order a 25 pound bag of flour from them yesterday. Take a look in the morning and you may have some luck.
- convolvatron 6y agojust for reference ordered 50lb from central on .. 4/3, shipped on 4/6 and it arrived fedex in sf on 4/7
- JeanMarcS 6y agoThere’s something I don’t really understand here (south east Ireland). There also is no flour. Mmm, I mean « normal » flour. Was in Tesco yesterday for the (now) weekly shop visit and they were putting bags and bags of flour. But only self raising and plain ones. I wonder if the producers of the flour do this on purpose (those flours are way more expensive than basic ones)
- Xylakant 6y agoin germany, getting kilo-packs of flour is hard. I have access to metro, which is a supermarket/distributor for businesses and they had tons of flour, but only 25kg packs for commercial buyers. It's even marked on the package "Nur zum gewerblichen Gebrauch". So there's flour - it's just not in your distribution chain.
- organsnyder 6y agoThere's been an article floating around that posits that the same thing is happening with toilet paper: plenty of "institutional" product is available (since many businesses are closed), but not "home" product (since people are not only hoarding but also using the restroom at home more).
- Xylakant 6y agoyes, you can see that in quite a few categories of products: Canned Tomatoes, 2.5 kg cans available. 500g cans: out. Pasta, 500g Spaghetti? Forget it. 5kg bulk: Available. Yeast, regular cubes: no way. Ordering half a kilo of dry yeast: no problem. It's just that as a regular normal family, 500g of yeast will get you through a year or two, depending on how much you bake (that's about the equivalent of 75 packets of dry yeast) But that stuff is also impossible to repackage into smaller quantities without exposing it to spoilage. There's a few supermarkets in Berlin that sell unpackaged stuff (basically you bring your own reusable container and they fill it for you) and they're well stocked in flour, pasta and stuff since they solve the repackaging issue at the point of sale.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
- postingawayonhn 6y agoAnd standing desks. I've been trying to source some for my business (to retail) and all of the cheaper models are sold out. The models we have been able to source are a harder sell at their price point. https://www.elementrelocations.com.au/work-from-home https://www.elementrelocations.com.au/work-from-home
- numpad0 6y agoJust an idea, would it be possible to use plumbing pipes or construction scaffolding instead?
- postingawayonhn 6y agoI'm sure you could hack something together if you're not too worried about the design or long-term duribility. For us it's really just a side business right now to compensate for our main business not attracting many customers right now.
- driverdan 6y agoYes, there are many ways to build a fixed-height standing desk. There are a number of guides to make them from Ikea pieces, for example.
- x0x0 6y agoOne of our customers uses his ironing board; he put it next to his regular desk.
- joncrane 6y agoIf you google "Ikea Standing desk," you will get a plethora of results. I even did a lightning talk on my Ikea standing desk once. It's fun and relatively easy to build. (Don't forget a pad to stand on)
- HenryBemis 6y agoHi, I made my own standing desk using Ikea's LINNMON table (120x60)(cm) but you can pick your own tabletop and the adjustable OLOV legs (apologies for the caps). Total cost is around £€$75 (I am checking UK site). The annoying bit is that I cannot convert it easily. I need to remove everything from the table, turn it upside-down, change the length of the legs, and turn it back up. IKEA also has three "proper" standing desks (that you can adjust their height without doing the aforementioned) but they cost x2 and x5 of my desk, and I don't really care to change the height that often/ever. (I don't work for Ikea, I just don't want to pay $1000 for something I can make with $100 (and have a better pension when I retire).
- fireattack 6y agoIt's has been like this for quite a while. I tried to buy a webcam for a project about 3-4 weeks ago and found they were all gone. Funny enough, at that moment, I just thought it was because Amazon had problem on stocking and delivery. I didn't even realize it's because of the high demand for remote work etc.
- fock 6y agothough you have to admit that it's not a necessity for workplace conversations. We thought it nice to get one for our lectures recently and it's not only webcams (which are totally sold out), but also cheapish capture cards and mics... We ended up buying a GoPro and a 4k-capable capture card - now if we only had a capable local network (for streaming a 1000 4k streams)
- skinnymuch 6y agoMakes sense. There likely weren’t that many cams to begin with. Not exactly a burgeoning market. Wouldn’t take much to be out of stock world wide.
- ghaff 6y agoI assume most people have webcams built into their computers and/or use their phones for these purposes. I have a highish-end external one but then I'm someone who was spending a couple hours a day on video conferences even before the current situation.
- distances 6y agoCan confirm this is a global thing too, in Germany webcams sold out in online stores exactly three weeks ago. The few items left doubled or tripled their prices overnight.
- martin_a 6y agoLook no further than simple headsets. Wanted to have a light, cheap one from Sennheiser (one of those for 20 €) for homeoffice use. Sold out on Amazon. Estimated delivery mid or late May. And it's like that for all the inexpensive "business headphones". If you want some shiny-blinky-bulky-"gamer headset", Amazon will be happy to send you a dozen till tomorrow morning. It's crazy.
- dannyw 6y agoJust wear a gamer headset then.
- dasyatidprime 6y agoI use a Sennheiser GAME ZERO for audio calls on a regular basis, including professionally, because the sound quality is quite good for voice. (I do also use it for gaming, and for music listening.) For audio calls they're not going to see it anyway, and I don't think most of the people I talk to would care if they saw it on a video call; the design doesn't scream “business”, but the red metal tracery is the only flashy thing about it, and that's kinda subtle. What's more of a problem I might run into soon is that my setup was already out of date for video calls; this seems increasingly like a hard expectation rather than an optional plus; and the pseudo-docking way I use my primary laptop at my desk doesn't currently allow me to orient the builtin camera so that it catches my expression at a reasonable angle while also letting me leave the monitor in front of me. Putting the laptop where my monitor currently is might be workable, but it could also get squint-inducing at that distance… I might have to play around with this.
- martin_a 6y agoSame for me on the camera angle part: I have connected the work laptop to my private 4k display, but I'm not using the Logitech camera which sits on top of the 4k display (mostly because I would need to clean my "hobby desk" then, not really in the mood for that :-D), so I use the integrated one. This leads to me looking straight at the large display and the camera facing me from the lower right. Well... Could be worse.
- plafl 6y agoAnd gym at home equipment is completely sold out, at least here in Spain, except the very expensive.
- dirtyid 6y agoYeah, weight plates selling for $3-4 per pound. Usually less than $1. Can sell a few plates to recoop home gym. Strange times.
- WalterBright 6y agoThere's the old fashioned way of buying a calf and carrying it around all day. As it grows, you grow strong like bull.
- dirtyid 6y agoIf only that's compatible with condo life and quarantine. Somewhat related to people complaining about flour, pet food / animal feed prices also skyrocketing. My gymless friends ended up buying sandbags.
- Raed667 6y agoAlso Nintendo Switch, where it is now selling for (450$~650$) when you used to be able to find it for (250$~$300).
- runawaybottle 6y agoI was trying to get a Oculus Quest around Christmas, and it simply could not be had (out of stock everywhere, and listed for over double the price on EBay - no pandemic needed). I guess companies really are just making exactly the number of units they need to make, nothing more.
- mikestew 6y agoSwitches have been out for a while. I had surgery at the beginning of March, figured it was a good excuse to finally play Legend of Zelda. Had to look a little bit, but I found one for online delivery from Best Buy for MSRP. Could have even bought an Animal Crossing special edition. A week later, maybe the wife would like one: none to be found. You can still get a Switch Lite, though.
- benayatei 6y agoHere, your phone video will be streamed and made available to your PC applications via WiFi. This is the easiest and most flexible way to do it. Requirement - both your computer and your android phone should be connected to the same network with android connected via WiFi. That means you can either - Connect both your phone and computer to the Internet using a wireless router. Or connect your Android to the pc internet using virtual router (Only for windows 7) Or connect your Android to the PC with a shared wifi network (needs rooted phone with ad-hoc networking enabled). Install IP webcam app.
- Semaphor 6y agoYeast. I haven’t needed yeast in years, recently I found a recipe with yeast I wanted to try and found out that, at least where I am in Germany, yeast is sold out. I heard about the webcam thing from my boss, he asked me if he gave me a webcam years ago when I started remote working. He did, but it was in the attic and I had to go looking for it ;)
- coob 6y agoYou can make your own yeast: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/31/21199708/yeast-diy-baking-covid-19-shortage-make-it-yourself-bread https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/31/21199708/yeast-diy-baking...
- Semaphor 6y agoYeah, I know. But it doesn’t seem worth it to buy a kg of flour just to make yeast for a single recipe ;)
- L_226 6y agoAlso in germany, you don't need 1kg, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9yh5lDvts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9yh5lDvts I did this last weekend and made a pretty good loaf (my first time).
- Semaphor 6y agoSo the thing is, the recipe is for a nut-flour based pizza dough. I’m not sure if a sour dough starter works for that. And as I never made the recipe before, I wouldn’t even know if any problem is because of the recipe or some problem with the starter.
- L_226 6y agoFair enough, I would still just try anyway as that's the only way you'll know for sure. The yeast is pretty forgiving, all it does is eat sugars in the flour and convert into CO2.
- whiskers 6y agoIt looks like you can take a Raspberry Pi (Zero variant or 3A+ should all work since they support gadget mode) with camera module and have it behave as a USB webcam. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=148361 https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=148361 I haven't tried this, but will ask one of our team to give it a go and confirm - that would make a more affordable option around £40 or so. Disclaimer: Co-founder of Pimoroni (Raspberry Pi re-seller)
- Nexxxeh 6y agoIf you guys can post a good working tutorial for the Zero W, it would be very much appreciated and I'll definitely be placing an order for a camera with you.
- dirtyid 6y agoSold out couple weeks ago in Canada, asked hackernews about apps that turn android phone into webcam. Two that worked fine: iriun droidcam Turns out your phone's selfie / front camera and microphone is vastly superior to most laptop webcams. Grab yourself selfie tripod. Lots of compliments about picture and sound quality. Coincidentally WSJ covered this topic yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daqPLDDAntA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daqPLDDAntA
- 51Cards 6y agoThanks for this, going to try these.
- paganel 6y agoLaptops were also in very high demand 2-3 weeks ago when quarantine started for the majority of us (I live in Romania).
- TrackerFF 6y agoAfter bars and restaurants closed down here, some 3 weeks ago, various alcoholic drinks have become very scarce. People are just hoarding wines and beers like never before - was going to pick up a couple of bottles of wine, but walked out with cheap vodka.
- nicolaslem 6y agoIt is the opposite in France, sell of alcohol in supermarkets saw a 16% drop.
- rjkennedy98 6y agoThat's surprising because usually during an economic downturn lifespans go up precisely because people spend less on alcohol and other drugs.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoDo you have a citation to support that trend, please? I'd expect the reverse -- somewhat like, I gather, cinema use increases because people don't go on holidays but have staycations.
- ghaff 6y agoI've actually been a bit surprised that where I live in Massachusetts at any rate, the liquor stores look remarkably normal. The one nearby grocery store that carries beer and wine looked pretty well-stocked for at least that part of its inventory as well. Maybe smaller stores in cities are shorter on inventory but out where I live any shortages are minimal. (Even though supermarkets are out of the usual items like paper goods.)
- vetinari 6y agoYears ago, I've read an article with experiences from war-torn Sarajevo. At the time, alcohol became currency.
- pwg 6y ago> People are just hoarding wines and beers like never before Are they? Or are all the people who used to go to the now shutdown bars and restaurants, where their beers and wines were supplied by the bars/restaurants, and therefore, commercial supply houses, now drinking at home instead, and so there is much more purchasing on the retail side, resulting in shortages because the retail side was not ready for a substantial X% instant increase in consumption? I.e., all the beer/wine that used to flow via the commercial supply houses now has to flow via the retail stores.
- speedgoose 6y agoNote that you can use your smartphone as a wireless webcam.
- benayatei 6y agoHave you tested this solution? If yes tell me yourself experience?
- slezyr 6y agoI just duck taped the selfie stick to the monitor's stand and use the phone with skype/zoom apps. Camera, mic are already there and you can use headsets with it.
- Angostura 6y agoAlso computer headsets and hairclippers and outdoor table tennis tables etc etc
- WalterBright 6y agoI'm glad I'm not the only one with a bad haircut during this quarantine :-/
- masteruvpuppetz 6y agoEver since I started losing hair, I bought a hair clipper to almost shave my head. Glad I did :)
- csomar 6y agoI used my beard trimmer and to my surprise the result I got was at least as good (if not better) than my barber.
- 0-_-0 6y agoThat's one weird trick your barber doesn't want you to know
- pjmlp 6y agoCount home cycling bikes as well.
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- lwhi 6y agoI wanted to buy a new webcam; basically because I'm finding half my life is spent using one. Ran into the problems mentioned in the article, and put a Logitech camera onto pre-order. Cancelled that order last night though: possible to use an android phone as a webcam that's most likely better quality than the current generator of USB webcam. I chose this app [1], others are available. [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pas.webcam&hl=en_GB https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pas.webcam...
- ce4 6y agoHow do you use the IP webcam address in programs like teams, zoom, skype? I resorted to buying a magewell hdmi-2-usb converter. Better quality, I can focus and zoom from further away (no huge nose) and depending on your gear you have automatic background blurring (aperture+sensor size) http://www.magewell.com/products/usb-capture-hdmi-gen-2 http://www.magewell.com/products/usb-capture-hdmi-gen-2
- gegtik 6y agoI'm using a combo of OBS, NDI, and OBS-NDI plugin as per scott hanselman's guide. You can download an "NDI" apk for your cell phone since the manufacturer removed the app from the play store, to provide the ability for an android phone to serve as a network display interface (of course it's your risk to download APKs from a random site)
- dirtyid 6y agoThe couple apps I tried, there's a windows client + generic webcam driver and the android device just shows up in the device list for cam and audio. Works over wifi fine.
- lwhi 6y agoIt's possible to create a virtual V4L device (https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback). The app I chose, provides a script to set this up. There's also a windows driver, but I haven't used that yet
- nailer 6y agoYep the 920S has doubled in price. However oddly the high end Logitech models models (4K with face unlock for Windows) are still available.
- michaelt 6y agoIt had never occurred to me that, during a shortage, the most expensive products would sell out last. It makes sense now I've seen it happen, but I've always associated food shortages with austerity - instead I'm suddenly buying premium organic free range duck eggs.
- summm 6y agoThis is because this is not an actual shortage. This is people panic-buying things they don't really need, and then of course they can't justify spending that much...
- wegs 6y agoAnd the coronavirus was just a flu. And there's pent-up demand in out economy which will just explode when we get out of this. No. This is not panic-buying or hoarding. There are actual supply chain disruptions, shifting demands, fewer workers going to work, and things just aren't keeping up with major disruptions to economic structures based on low margins, having just enough capacity, and doing everything just-in-time. They're addressable, but we're not addressing them. Instead everyone tells themselves pretty stories about how the problems aren't real, and everyone else seems to believe it. As far as I can tell, no one actually keeps an eye on these things either. We have no idea if we will have too much or not enough food in 6 months, and my guess is not enough (B2C producers aren't scaling up due to pretty stories, while B2B ones are shutting down due to lack-of-demand).
- wayoutthere 6y ago> As far as I can tell, no one actually keeps an eye on these things either. Our current political system is invested in manipulating the truth to poke your political rivals in the eye; and there's no way you can keep an eye on things if you fire everyone who doesn't tell you what you want to hear...
- mister_hn 6y agothe C270 sold at 70€
- 51Cards 6y agoI tried to pick up a webcam last week... nothing anywhere.
- technofiend 6y agoI think it was covered previously but Wyze offered an image that makes their security / surveillance camera into a webcam. Requires a USB cable and sd card in addition to the camera. I see Wyze cameras available on Amazon at a markup and with some delay, but their website seems to have them in stock? I didn't go through the checkout process to verify. https://wyze.com/wyze-in-response https://wyze.com/wyze-in-response
- 51Cards 6y agoThanks! These are new to me, one normal and one Pan on order. Thank you again!
- technofiend 6y agoYou're quite welcome!
- rainbowzootsuit 6y agoHome depot stocks Wyze cams too.
- technofiend 6y agoReally? If you're lucky enough to have one near you they are usually in stock and often on sale at Microcenter.
- rainbowzootsuit 6y agoTry this: https://brickseek.com/home-depot-inventory-checker/?sku=308137578 https://brickseek.com/home-depot-inventory-checker/?sku=3081...
- jurip 6y agoFeels like Apple could boost their ecosystem by making great iPhone/macOS webcam integration. There's Kinoni's EpocCam and it seems to work, but it is a bit rough and requires installing their driver which I don't love.
- RBerenguel 6y agoI’ve been using CamTwist (http://camtwiststudio.com/ http://camtwiststudio.com/) for it after checking the alternatives. Even if old-looking it works well (in Catalina and Mojave) and has converted my old iPhone into a good-quality webcam. OBS studio is getting virtual webcam support soon (see a recent post about OBS studio) and will allow for that as well (I have tried the proof of concept implementation)
- skinnymuch 6y agoAh I didn’t know camtwist can use your iPhone as a cam. Unfortunately it isn’t working anymore on one of my Catalina installs. Which is my primary daily driver. Luckily works on secondary older Mac that I use for Zoom frequently. Will try it out, thanks!
- RBerenguel 6y agoOh, interesting, it works for me on Catalina. For some unknown reason I had to restart to make it work, _and_ only works on Chrome (for Meet) and some other selected programs. I guess it shows its age, I may have been lucky it works for me.
- skinnymuch 6y agoI reformatted a 2014 Mac Mini a family member was going to throw away :p. First by accident to Catalina. It was fine there in the hour I used it. Downgraded the Mini to 10.14 so it can actually run though. My main driver already has other minor issues like too much cpu usage from certain Mac processes etc. I’m sure if I took the time, I’d be able to get Camtwist working. But yeah if for you it works depending on browser and software. Yeah age is showing.
- kyrra 6y agoI saw this mentioned in a WSJ piece yesterday. > You can get an external webcam—although top models are sold out across the web. ( Logitech says it’s increasing production and distribution to meet the new demand.) https://www.wsj.com/articles/living-the-coronavirus-work-from-home-life-here-are-all-the-tech-tips-you-need-11585059841 https://www.wsj.com/articles/living-the-coronavirus-work-fro...
- exabrial 6y agoCouldn't we just use our smartphones on a stand?
- simon1573 6y agoI'm doing that :) https://imgur.com/a/fige6hf https://imgur.com/a/fige6hf
- michaelbrooks 6y agoI did this with my Pixel 2 for a while, but the microphone had a lot of noise. To tackle the issue, I plugged a USB-C hub into it and used my Blue Yeti mic which gave me crystal clear audio. Of course, a simple lapel would be a much better investment if you don't have any of that equipment.
- lima-lima 6y agoPerhaps useful for others: I had this thought as well (that my handy camera is already a high quality webcam) and had great performance on Linux with the app DroidCam [1], which includes the V4Lloopback module when you install the desktop program and presents the android camera as a webcam at /dev/video#. Connected to my computer via USB (ADB) it shows no noticeable latency. This is a bit different to all the IP webcam apps which expose the handy camera over your LAN (but that is an option as well). The desktop app allows you to toggle the handy LED flash for better front lighting, to lock exposure, to trigger autofocus, and to adjust white balance. I tried it first with the free version, which doesn't allow HD video. The full version is a few dollars; doesn't contain ads. I have no connection to the developers, but am a happy user. Works flawlessly anywhere a webcam is expected (for me so far: skype, Zoom, Jitsi). The desktop app is open source, but unfortunately not the android app. I was surprised not find an open source version of this concept (and don't currently have the time to develop it). [1] https://www.dev47apps.com/ https://www.dev47apps.com/
- tareqak 6y agoI discovered this myself around March 24, 2020. Here is a screenshot of the product page of the Logitech C922x on Amazon.com with the keepa.com browser plugin installed: https://imgur.com/a/GyvLY0m https://imgur.com/a/GyvLY0m .
- tvanantwerp 6y agoI noticed this last week when a coworker asked if he could get one. A normally $40 Logitech webcam was selling for $136 with very long waiting/shipping times. I told him, no, he cannot have a webcam...
- mellosouls 6y agoIt's irritating that some historical price comparison sites (e.g. CamelCamelCamel - at least in the EU) are being leaned on by Amazon to cease their activity. Where items are available, I actually would like to know who's profiteering before sending them my money.
- mcescalante 6y agoIf anyone's curious about this from 3 camels standpoint they made a blog post about this. I was curious what the non-Amazon opinion would be so I went looking: https://camelcamelcamel.com/blog/amazon-eu-covid-19 https://camelcamelcamel.com/blog/amazon-eu-covid-19
- mellosouls 6y agoThis is fair enough (and I had read the blog entry before posting, but had forgotten it - thanks!), but why only EU? I assume they are separate operating entities to the US/other domains, but it's not obvious why the logic should apply in one region but not another, though I suppose the difficulties are varying from country to country - but along similar trajectories I would have thought.
- rdtwo 6y agoThey are being generous to amazon. You can clearly see that amazon raised prices 30%+ on things like dishwasher tablets and other stuff. It’s not showing up on camel camel because amazon is showing them a different price then what you get as a logged in user. As soon as you login to order amazon jacks up the price on you. That’s their “scam”
- TheAdamist 6y agoWyze cheap security cameras released a firmware that turns them into a webcam. Still in stock. You will also need a USB a-a cable that I didn't know existed or was legal. And a 32gb microsd. I did this last week, came in one day on Amazon prime. Under $50 for everything. Setup went okay, although the 3-4 minutes for firmware write was under a minute for me with their branded microsd. Quality is passable, lens is more fisheye than I'd prefer so you see my messy office, but it works. 1080/30 the software claims. Note it has a speaker, so check your sound mixer settings to have it not steal audio out. https://support.wyzecam.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041605111-Webcam-Firmware-Instructions https://support.wyzecam.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041605111-W...
- cesarb 6y ago> You will also need a USB a-a cable that I didn't know existed or was legal. They exist, but are not allowed by the USB standard. The basic premise of the classic USB standard is that the A side provides the 5V power, while the B side consumes that 5V power. With an A to A cable, you are shorting both power supplies together. (USB-C changes that to resistors; IIRC, the side with the pull-up resistors will initially provide the 5V power, while the side with the pull-down resistors will initially consume the 5V power. The passive adapters to classic USB just have the correct pair of resistors for the corresponding classic USB plug or socket.)
- dan-robertson 6y agoI’m slightly confused by this. At first you seem to be using A and B to describe whether the connector is male/female but in the next paragraph you use the letter C to refer to the shape of the connector. I assume in the first paragraph you mean a usb A cable with plugs on both ends
- jaywalk 6y agoUSB A and B are both connector types, just like USB C is a connector type. The letters have nothing to do with male vs. female. USB A is a rectangle, and USB B is closer to a square. I've also never seen anything aside from female USB ports and male/male USB cables (aside from extension cables).
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- Paraesthetic 6y agoWent to the computer shop to get a few wekcams for our remote workers. The guy said they had 30 cameras in that morning and had two left. I got those two. Its a computer shop I only use as a last resort because they are useless. Seems to be the case across the board though, I bought some Microsoft LifeCam Studios because Microsoft had some in stock. But couldn't find much else anywhere else.
- delecti 6y agoIt seems odd to note that you think the only store which had the product you were looking for is useless.
- Markoff 6y agohe clearly meant useless under normal circumstances when you have much more and cheaper options online than in brick and mortar store
- skinnymuch 6y agoWhy is it useless otherwise?
- michaelt 6y agoI can't speak for Paraesthetic, but in more normal circumstances in-person retail regularly has a smaller selection at higher prices, and the quality of help from shop assistants can be variable. It's not the shops' fault, it's the economics of the industry. Economies of scale mean for some products, Amazon's retail price will be lower than the shop's wholesale price. Cashflow and volumes make it hard to stock a broad range of expensive items like CPUs and laptops. Competent help can often do better than retail wages and working conditions.
- Paraesthetic 6y agoPost script: I bought a Brio for myself (because windows hello). I think I got the last one on the planet.
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- buro9 6y agoI bought an Elgato CamLink instead... hooked it up to a DSLR I already owned, and it makes for a stunningly crisp and clear, high quality, webcam. Of course, using a 42.4 Megapixel sensor and a Carl Zeiss Sonnar lens it would. https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/cam-link-4k https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/cam-link-4k Turns a HDMI input into a USB web cam.
- rossboss 6y agoThese are out of stock, everywhere.
- cmod 6y agoYou can also use an hd60s which costs more but does the same thing (and offers pass through).
- vetinari 6y agoI used to use Gopro this way. The problem was, that Gopro runs on battery when turned on (even when not recording, just in monitor mode), but charges it only when the camera is off. With my old battery, the sessions were... short. So I managed to snatch a Brio last week, and I'm much more satisfied.
- pdpi 6y agoI’m using the elgato camlink as well and got one of these to keep my camera going — https://www.amazon.co.uk/AC-PW20-Adapter-Replacement-NP-FW50-DSC-RX10-Dual-USB/dp/B07CBM9DST/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/AC-PW20-Adapter-Replacement-NP-FW50...
- windexh8er 6y agoThis isn't correct for, at least GoPro 6 and newer. I often times will run my GoPro with an external battery pack when doing extremely long running time lapse videos. The camera can definitely be run on external power and record - minimally a Hero 6 Black and a Hero 8 black both can be used in this manner from personal experience.
- summm 6y agoThe webcam and video call market has stopped to improve like, 10 years ago. There's some exceptions, like the Brio, but they are worse and more expensive than a whole cheapo phone with 2 cameras. Overall we're mostly stuck with 1280x720 fixfoxus usb-2.0 crap. On the software side, things don't look better: UVC 1.5 finally does support hardware encode with bitrate control, but software support is scarce. Completely unsupported by Linux even. Don't get me started about free videoconference software and open, end-to-end encrypted systems. Am I missing something? Is this really that hard?
- user5994461 6y agoHome broadband has not improved much in the past 10 years. Home users simply couldn't stream a 720p video back then and most still can't as of today. So there is no point in making higher resolution cameras, that won't run 5 frames per second. Besides, high-end phones have very good cameras nowadays but they sell for a $1000 and upward. The typical webcam budget is rather in the $20-30 range. If you're willing to put hundred(s) in a webcam, like businesses and streamers, there are good options.
- ceejayoz 6y agoThis doesn't appear to be accurate. https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-connection-speed-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-... Anecdotally, my local ISP has gone from everyone getting 10/1 to 100/5 in the base package in the last few years.
- lotsofpulp 6y agoUpload bandwidth for 95% of homes in the US is the same as it was almost 20 years ago. It’s so bad it’s not even advertised. If you have access to fiber, then you’re very lucky in the US. I would also say 5mbps upload is hardly an upgrade. A single FaceTime call uses a couple mbps, so it’s probably just enough for that, assuming everyone in the neighborhood isn’t uploading too, which they are nowadays.
- tehjoker 6y agoPrice hikes in a crisis allocate scarce resources to the rich. The price gougers should be cracked down on hard.
- conceptme 6y agoA lot of laptop stand, external monitors and bread baker machines are out of stock here too.
- throwaway55554 6y agoOn Amazon, there are some lesser known brands still available. I wonder how well those actually work.
- wegs 6y agoMy experience: Better than Logitech. A $10 webcam I picked up 5-10 years ago vastly outperforms my fancy Logitech which my work bought for me. Coincidentally, eBay, AliExpress, etc. have a bunch of cheap ones, but with long lead times (shipped from China). I can't vouch for specific models.
- crazygringo 6y agoI don't see any evidence webcams are worse than other stuff though. Amazon's been sold out of current-gen iPad Mini's for a while too. (Though regular iPads are there.) Global supply chains are disrupted, so all sorts of random individual products are either jumping in price or sold out, while plenty of other ones are perfectly fine. But aside from masks/TP/sanitizer/rice and similar, I'm not seeing a lot of whole product-category trends.
- Robotbeat 6y agoiPads are really nice for video calling. My in-laws recently (within last 2 months) got one almost entirely for FaceTime with family (they had Skype on laptop but was always a hassle for them). So this is the same kind of thing as a webcam.
- wenc 6y agoI've resorted to "draping" my iPad with folding cover (it's stable!) on top of my 24" monitor (old airplane seat trick) for video conferences. The resulting camera angle is just perfect [1], and the iPad's camera is excellent compared to a laptop's. [1] Tom Ford's guide on how to look good on a video conference. Tip 1: camera should for top of head. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/style/tom-ford-video-chat-tips.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/style/tom-ford-video-chat...
- s1t5 6y agoSimilarly, I felt that I outgrew my kettlebell and tried to order a new one - absolutely impossible right now, like most other home exercise equipment. At least it's something completely non-essential. I'm just grateful that we have food in the stores at the moment.
- taborj 6y agoThis is a prime example of why letting prices go up to a certain degree on certain items is a good thing. Case in point: you wanted to buy a new webcam, not because you needed one, but because you felt it was time to do so. You can't, because the prices are too high. But for someone for whom a webcam is essential (think a doctor providing televisits to patients), a high price isn't as much of a deterrent (within reason). Because you couldn't/wouldn't buy at the higher price, there was stock available for the doctor who absolutely needed the device.
- krupan 6y agoExactly. Without price controls, prices go up some finite amount. With price controls, things sell out which means prices have essentially gone to infinity. Which is more of a price control?
- ssully 6y agoI started working from home in early March, and even then most webcams were sold out on Amazon. I ended up finding the camera I wanted on Bestbuy without any problems and it was delivered pretty quickly. I just checked again, and the same webcam I got off Bestbuy is now only available for in store pickup.
- boyband6666 6y agoYep - things have been sold out as people work from home. I've bought a cheap Chinese 'Action Camera' i.e. knockoff gopro from Amazon. £30 and it works perfectly well as a webcam for conference calls!
- post_break 6y agoAlso bidets, nintendo switches, instant yeast, powdered milk, etc. I actually snagged some wine yeast on amazon and I'm on my third loaf of bread. Bidet was the best "waste of money" I have spent in a long time. My TP usage has been slashed.
- flanbiscuit 6y agoyeah i finally got on the bidet (attachment) wagon and the ones I wanted on Amazon were sold out (the were the top sellers). I ended up ordering from a company that did not sell on Amazon and was cheaper than a Tushy. (Tushy has since lowered their price but it's still slightly more expensive) https://myomigo.com/products/element https://myomigo.com/products/element Has not arrived yet so I can not say if I recommend it yet or not but from the research I did it seemed like people who tested the different range of attachments pretty much liked all of them regardless of price so I probably overpaid. The one criteria we had was that my girlfriend wanted a front spray as well which the Omigo has.
- post_break 6y agoI got a $35 one on amazon before it doubles in price and then sold out. It’s a knob with power, woman mode, and clean mode. It’s about the cheapest thing ever and the wife laughed at first but now she uses it. I honestly get sad when I forget to use it lol.
- MisterTea 6y agoA few friends switch to bidets a while ago and wont look back. Personally I just jump in the shower if it's that bad.
- wegs 6y agoI find bidets as or more useful if it's not that bad. You're often talking about just one or two square of toilet paper (literally, not figuratively). Try cleaning your hands with paper instead of water some day, and see how that works out for you. It's the same thing.
- fab1an 6y agoIt's incredibly annoying that you can't use your APPLE iPhone camera as a webcam for your APPLE Macbook, but instead are forced to use the atrociously terrible cam that comes with the Macbook. I've tried workarounds using the excellent OSB, but there's currently no software that let's you reroute video on a Mac (like Loopback does for audio) EDIT: I stand corrected, as user wolfhumble points out below, EpocCam seems to do this - thanks! https://apps.apple.com/us/app/epoccam-webcamera-for-computer/id435355256 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/epoccam-webcamera-for-computer...
- wolfhumble 6y agoThere is this, but I haven't tried it: https://apps.apple.com/app/epoccam-webcam-for-mac-pc/id449133483 https://apps.apple.com/app/epoccam-webcam-for-mac-pc/id44913...
- whatever1 6y agoI have tried it and it works flawlessly when paired with an iphone 11. You can even use the main iphone camera, not just the front facing one. It is by far my best webcam (compared to my laptops and a stand-alone logitech I own). PS. To make it work you need to install a driver on your PC, so it can be a no-go for many company owned computers.
- brodo 6y agoI tried it and it did not work for me. (Macbook Pro and iPhone 8)
- vhold 6y agoLooking at the reviews, I see multiple people saying that the developer required paid users to write a review in order to unlock the ability to use the front camera. I think it goes without saying that is an incredibly scummy practice.
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- chadlavi 6y agoI don't understand how Amazon has not shut this down. I went to buy one a month ago and it was already at this piratical price. Don't they actively prevent price gougers when they find them?
- walkon 6y agoAllowing the price to move up with market demand will encourage increases in production. It just takes some time, especially in a pandemic, for the production to catch up.
- TomMckenny 6y agoWhich might be fine for things like web cams but for critically and immediately needed sanitation products, it proves a fatal flaw in markets. The reward for quickly buying up commodities and reselling them at enormous markup always out weighs stockpiling them for years and potentially never selling them at the same mark up. Not to mention destructive hysterical hoarding. There is someone in this thread who noticed an extreme shortage in webcams so when only two were left in a shop, he bought both.
- foofoo4u 6y agoPeople are hoarding, because they are not rationing. They are not rationing, because prices are too low. Prices are too low, because it is either illegal or retailers would rather have a shortage than tarnish their brand. If you allow prices to rise, then we will see both an increase of supply and increased rationing by the population.
- TomMckenny 6y agoPeople started hoarding out of hysteria. Which creates shortages for no reason. Which drives the prices up for no reason. Which benefits and encourages hoarding. Which encourages yet more hoarding out of speculation. Which means resources needed at this instant are instead sitting idle, at best awaiting higher prices at some arbitrary future date. And earnings, rather than going to producers, are wasted on pointlessly destructive arbitrage. So in crisis, the market has led us into a soviet style toilet paper shortages for no reason. Not to mention far more important critical supplies.
- JCharante 6y agoIt's been like this for 1.5 months. It's been commonly brought up at universities when some professors require webcams for exams but some students don't already have them. I imagine professional headsets are under similar price constraints because on the BBC I've seen at-home reporters using gaming headsets with RGB LEDs.
- cvwright 6y agoHeadsets are definitely in short supply. I bought a mid-range Jabra in March for about $150-160. The same model on Amazon is now over $200 and has increased by $10 since the last time I checked just one week ago.
- dangerboysteve 6y agoI can also confirm, many local computer stores and distributors have had a huge run in basic headsets and webcams. Game headsets are in stock.
- Robotbeat 6y agoAnd VR headsets, which have been sold out for a while (especially Oculus Rift S and Quest) and every time they're brought back in stock, they sell out within minutes or seconds. I managed to grab a Quest... with delivery date like May 1st or something. (Granted, there were some 'rona-caused supply chain problems with the headsets and also Half Life: Alyx just was released, but still.)
- beamatronic 6y agoNoticed this too! Was considering posting about it here also.
- KoftaBob 6y agoI still don't understand how the quality of front facing cameras on smart phones has gotten so high, and yet even the most high end laptop's built in cam caps out at 720p. Why?
- spuz 6y agoIt's because the standard webcam interface is based on a slow USB 2 interface which can only support enough bandwidth for 720p video. To upgrade your webcam, laptop manufacturers would need to make significant changes to both the interface and the operating system. Add that onto the lack of economic incentive, it's just not worth the cost. Here's a good video that gives a run down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BLgS7m0W94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BLgS7m0W94
- KoftaBob 6y agoVery interesting, thanks for the info!
- ck2 6y agoSpeaking of which, there could be a serious opportunity for a startup to create an actually decent webcam stream service with low lag and low/no artifacts because I have no idea why the national media has such horrible connections in 2020, makes zero sense to me, it's like watching 2001 tech. Sound correction for dead rooms or echo-y rooms would be nice too. If AI can magically "fix" video with almost no pixels and poor sound a hundred years old, they should be able to apply it to webcam broadcasts.
- NikolaNovak 6y agoI got SparkoCam and use my DSLRs as webcam, as I just couldn't handle the quality of laptop or regular webcam :( A bit pricey software, but now I can put transparent images or greenscreen the output, which gives daily amusement to the team :).
- ivankirigin 6y agoWhy shouldn’t the price increase with a supply chain disruption and demand boom? Would you prefer a shortage with no incentive to increase production?
- DangitBobby 6y agoIf I used to produce 100 units per month because that's how many I could sell, but now I know I can sell 10000 units per month, that is incentive enough to increase production. Notice here that raising the price is not at all required to increase profits. It's just something companies tend to do because they know they can get away with it in high demand markets. And since raising prices to increase profits is not necessary with hugely increased damand, it's seen as profiteering to do so on essentials (or in this case things that make you feel less isolated) during a global crisis.
- taborj 6y agoIt's a tricky spot. Letting the prices rise keeps the folks who don't need one, but merely want one, from buying one, thus leaving some supply for those who actually need one. On the other hand, prices quickly get out of control if left to their own devices. Some say that's natural, and perhaps it is, but that doesn't mean it's good all the time. As for increasing production, this is one thing where raising prices can actually decrease the incentive to increase production. For literally the same money that I was using to create 100 units per month, I'm now getting the same profit that 10000 units per month would have given me. Why would I spend money to increase production, thus increasing supply which reduces demand, which lowers prices, which lowers profits?
- ghufran_syed 6y agoEconomic theory suggests that changing the output of a single supplier does not affect overall prices in a competitive market like this - that’s very different from oligopoly or monopoly situations. I would highly recommend “Basic economics” by Thomas Sowell for anyone interested in a good overview of these kind of issues (audiobook also available on YouTube, I believe)
- syshum 6y agoTIL people actually use WebCam's.... I have mine always disabled, before the new Lenovo's it was tape, not Lenovo has the disable built into the hardware, I super glued mine to the closed position
- jefftk 6y agoOn March 25th a friend noticed them being out of stock on Amazon and I found that they could get just the camera module, no box: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+camera+module&i=electronics https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+camera+module&i=electronics These still seem to be available, though you'll need to be careful with them or build a box.
- tmnster85 6y agoAkaso Pro 4k - The thing is a knock off gopro but it has the embedded webcam drivers so it's plug and play. I spent about 4 hours trying to get the Costco version of the GoPro4 to work with a bunch of drivers from some guy in Europe. Did not work. Any GoPro solution sounds hacky The other thing is old phones and tablets. Wipe them, root, install something like Lineage and then get an IP camera app, dead simple and provides a second display for what you're presenting on the camera.
- jetti 6y agoI bought a webcam off of AliExpress that was supposedly shipped from the US and they said they had stock. It was ~$25 so I'm not expecting much but it will be something. I'm doing facetime/facebook video chats with family members so they can see my 15 month old son. We have been using the built-in camera in either a phone or laptop but my son keeps trying to reach out and smash the keyboard or touch the phone screen. The idea is to use a webcam and then hook the laptop up to the TV so that we can be visible.
- UncleOxidant 6y agoI noticed this a couple of weeks ago when I was looking for a webcam. Check Aliexpress, banggood and other chinese sites for much more affordable options.
- logfromblammo 6y agoI pulled my old Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000 out of storage, to find that the video feed functions only when plugged in to a USB 2 port, and my current home desktop just has USB 3 ports. I haven't yet tried fixing it, because honestly, nobody really needs to see any of... this. As I gesture vaguely at myself. Video conferencing is vastly overrated. I'd rather share an image of my desktop or a drawing canvas.
- PAPPPmAc 6y agoI ran into that the other week as well. Get a UVC industrial camera with a M12 or CS mount lens to use as a webcam, most are better cameras than the "webcam" models and not everyone has noticed UVC cameras _are_ webcams so the prices are normal. I grabbed one with an OV2710 sensor (does 1920x1080@30fps, 1280×720@60, and so on) and a 2.8-12mm CS lens for $65 that took a little over a week to arrive (I paid a slight premium from Amazon instead of Aliexpress because it looked like there was US stock... turned out to be the same seller shipping from the same place in China. Oh well). I'm trying to limp the hands-on portion of some sophomore-level EE courses to the end of the semester, so I've got mine mounted as an overhead camera for drawing/demonstrating/etc. the crap laptop built-in is plenty for facecam. The major problem is getting the video conferencing apps not to drop cameras to super-low quality, Zoom usually won't even use the full resolution mode of my built-in (except occasionally and apparently at random it decides to and changes the frame by selecting a 16x9 mode instead of the 4:3 it usually picks), and offers no real camera settings that I can find.
- Arelius 6y agoNeat, where did you order yours from? I've actually been looking for a sensor without a Bayer filter on it to use with a spectrometer, and this looks like the sort of thing that might be able to be used for that.
- vidanay 6y agoI'm not sure exactly what you are looking for, but there are a lot of machine vision cameras available that do not have Bayer filters and are grey scale only. https://www.baslerweb.com/en/products/cameras/ https://www.baslerweb.com/en/products/cameras/ https://www.alliedvision.com/en/digital-industrial-camera-solutions.html https://www.alliedvision.com/en/digital-industrial-camera-so... These cameras most likely DO HAVE a NIR (near IR) filter on the sensors. You would need to check on specific models. Basler provides some documentation for removing the filter from specific camera models. https://www.baslerweb.com/en/sales-support/downloads/document-downloads/how-to-remove-the-ir-cut-filter-holder-from-a-basler-ace-camera/ https://www.baslerweb.com/en/sales-support/downloads/documen...
- enra 6y agoOne ProTip: You can order directly from Logitech website. Couple of weeks ago there was no stock for C922 on Amazon, but was able to purchase it direct from Logitech. Shipping was free I think and it arrived in week or so.
- scrumper 6y agoWorked for me too. 2.5 weeks lead for a C930e ordered middle of March. Razer Kiyo as well, direct from Razer.
- sp332 6y agoEvery webcam I checked is "out of stock due to high demand."
- sneeze-slayer 6y agoThey come back in stock sporadically, probably worth it to check at odd hours.
- eugenekolo 6y agoI paid $40+shipping for a Logitech C270 when it normally goes for something like $25. Such is life. Took me a while to find it (sparkfun.com if anybody's interested in getting one too).
- znpy 6y agoMeh, I'm using the integrated webcam in my work Dell Latitude . It's sufficient. I really don't see the need for super-high-res webcams for work meeting (unless you have to stream a whole room).
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- smoyer 6y agoWebCams were actually quite scarce in early March ... I looked everywhere on-line as well as quite a few physical locations.
- erikig 6y agoSo were headsets - while most people were stocking up on toilet paper, it seems companies were buying all the Logitech H390s they could get their hands on.
- Rafuino 6y agoI've been looking for a C290s for a couple months now, which sell regularly for $70 or less. They're now on Craigslist for $140+, and on Amazon for $200+. Can we enforce price gouging on private sellers?
- foofoo4u 6y agoEnforcement by what means? By law? If so, then I would advise against that, given price controls lead to shortages[1][2] and is generally not accepted by economists[3]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_controls#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_controls#Criticism [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging#Opposition_to_laws_against_price_gouging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging#Opposition_to_la... [3]: https://economics.stackexchange.com/a/34439/27218 https://economics.stackexchange.com/a/34439/27218
- jamieweb 6y agoWhy would you want a video feed anyway? If you're just having a talking meeting, I don't really need to see your face, and also don't want you to see mine. Edit: Maybe I'm antisocial, but I have talking meetings all of the time with people I know well, but never feel the need for video.
- tibu 6y agoMetacommunication is a really important part between communicating parties
- rootusrootus 6y agoAlso Chromebooks. Seems like everyone is grabbing them for their kids since that's what schools have been using. Just getting a couple of them for my kids involved paying half again as much as the same ones were going for a month ago, and two involuntary canceled orders. Fingers crossed that Best Buy won't cancel again on the ones that I'm supposed to pick up on Friday.
- Spooky23 6y agoChromebooks were heavily impacted by Wuhan supply chain issues. There was zero inventory of devices with FHD screens 6 weeks ago, now big schools are ordering thousands of the things.
- snowwolf 6y agoRelevant: https://martinfowler.com/articles/effective-video-calls.html https://martinfowler.com/articles/effective-video-calls.html
- lancefisher 6y agoI ran into this a couple weeks ago getting my son set up for remote school. I ended up buying a 24” Dell monitor with a webcam, speakers, and mic built in. They are surprisingly few choices for monitors like this, but I’m really happy with the P2418HZm that I ordered. It was $280 on Amazon and took a week to get here. You can also use it to login with your face. The other option I was looking at was just picking up a cheap chrome book with a camera built in.
- noodlesUK 6y agoIf you’re the typical hacker news reader, I suppose there’s a good chance you have a decent quality SLR or mirrorless camera. If it has a clean HDMI output, you can use it with a capture card (80USD or so) on amazon and you’ll have the best webcam money can buy. Couple that with a cheap lavalier mic or similar and you’ll have far better quality than any video call is likely able to transmit. If you’re feeling really hacky you might be able to do without the capture card and use gphoto2 to stream your camera over usb, and then use something like OBS virtual am or V4l2loopback. This is fiddly though and only works with a few cameras.
- 1-6 6y agoRIP capture cards.
- lysp 6y agoIsopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol) - main ingredient in sanitiser, also gym equipment.
- tmaly 6y agoI am in the process of building a new machine. Sadly I forgot to order a web cam for it. One of my co-workers mentioned there is an android app that sets up a server on the phone and it allows you to turn your phone into a web cam for your computer. I also just discovered that certain DSLR cameras can be used as web cams with certain software.
- freepor 6y agoOrdered 2 Logitech Brios but then when I saw the resale price made $450 profit and went back to my 720p webcam.
- paleogizmo 6y agoPrice gouging my old webcam at 2x purchase price on Ebay. The free market has to work somewhere in the pandemic, right?