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Wow. I downloaded and launched this, and immediately wanted to change the font size. Took me a good minute to find the settings button (cmd and Powershell both
by oefrha 7y ago
Wow. I downloaded and launched this, and immediately wanted to change the font size. Took me a good minute to find the settings button (cmd and Powershell both have a right click menu on the title bar, this one does not), and clicking on it opens a JSON config file with Visual Studio. Guess it's far from <s>ready for everyday use</s> release quality at the moment.
Disclaimer: I'm primarily a Mac user developing on macOS and Linux. Swears by iTerm 2.
- mscasts 7y agoWeird, I love the font size and the font in general. I use it everyday and it's way, way better than the normal powershell terminal.
- oefrha 7y agoWhat I meant is that changing any setting at all is a great pain at the moment.
- nicoburns 7y agoI mean, quite a few apps aimed at developers do this. Sublime Text for example. I can't imagine many people who aren't comfortable editing a text file would be using a terminal.
- oefrha 7y agoAt least with Sublime Text the configuration file would be opened in the app itself, not goddamn Visual Studio. Also, can do is one thing, likes to do (learning a JSON schema to change the font size) is something else. Oh, and tons of people use a terminal under guidance when they need to accomplish something that’s otherwise difficult or impossible.
- qayxc 7y agoThe configuration file opens in whatever app is associated with the format. If you associated JSON files with VS then that's specific to your personal setup and unrelated to the Terminal app. You also don't need to learn JSON schema and - I'm sorry to say this - but if editing a well-documented text format is too much of a hurdle to you, then maybe you're simply not the target demographic for the app. The tons of people who blindly use copy-pasta wouldn't even need to use the Terminal app (a tool explicitly aimed at power users and devs), so that's a non-argument to start with.
- oefrha 7y agoThanks for labeling me a noob while I have been editing text configs for a decade and a half. Again, passable != good, and there’s hardly any defense for a GUI application putting all common settings in a text configuration, especially when you need to configure colors, fonts, etc. I’m pretty sure the terminal app was advertised as the next generation console experience for Windows, which means it is going to replace cmd, and will be used by non-power users. Re binding: that’s just the default when VS is installed. Also, whether it’s Visual Studio is irrelevant, what’s relevant is it definitely isn’t Windows Terminal. Edit: By replacing cmd I probably meant replacing conhost or something. Not completely sure about Windows separation of shells and terminal emulators but the idea should be clear.
- s9w 7y agoPeople who use a terminal know how to edit a json file. That approach has good tradition by now with Sublime etc, see the poster above. And I'm pretty sure VS doesn't auto-associate itself with json files. They handled this in the best way possible imo.
- oefrha 7y agoLast time I’m gonna say this: configuring fonts, colors, etc. is possible with a text file, doesn’t mean it’s any good.
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- jve 7y agoCTRL + Scroll to zoom in/out. Just like browser.
- oefrha 7y agoApparently talking about a persistent setting here.
- OptionX 7y agoIt was the same with VS Code. Probably they won't start to transition to a more GUI oriented options until release. Even then it'll probably be an incremental affair.
- apk-d 7y agoI personally find the JSON configuration paradigm to be immensely usable, at least when it's done in a schema/UI-assisted way (which is how vscode did it). I'm glad Microsoft is picking it up in their other software and I wish more software did it.
- mariusmg 7y agoYeah, much better than a sea of textboxes/comboboxes with no way to search.
- oefrha 7y ago> with no way to search. That’s the main problem, not boxes. Also, for text box configs there’s usually a XML/JSON behind the scene anyway. It’s not like I can’t grep my iTerm config even though I configure it from the GUI.
- GordonS 7y agoAgreed, I actually see plenty of settings dialogs in complex products with a search function nowadays (cmder, Visual Studio, JetBrains Rider etc).
- nickcox 7y agoYes! Don't ever change, Windows Terminal.
- kyriakos 7y agoalso its cool that you can copy your settings and move them to another machine just by copying one file.
- ygra 7y agoAdmittedly, the place where those settings are (and how they can be changed) is not terribly intuitive, either. It's just that it has been that way since at least Windows 3, so you (and many others) are probably used to it by now, while others don't even know this exists. I mean, how many people actually look into the system menu of an application?
- wffurr 7y agoI mean it's a 0.1 preview release. Setting UI is just one the things I would expect to be unfinished or not done.
- oefrha 7y agoIt’s 0.10, not 0.1. But > Setting UI is just one the things I would expect to be unfinished or not done. That’s what I thought too. Just stating the pain points, not blaming anyone for missing features in a preview release.
- vips7L 7y agoIt's actually very ready for everyday use, even for a 0.1 release. It's the best terminal I've used so far on windows and Linux.
- RMPR 7y agoTry alacritty
- vips7L 7y agoIt doesn't even have tab support.
- RMPR 7y agoIt's meant to be used with WMs that can handle tabs (i3, sway, xmonad, ...) As a terminal, it is blazingly fast and scale well with hdpi screens, without all the feature creep, in short, it suckless.
- sk5t 7y ago'kitty' term user here, and I use the heck out of kitty's tab and split controls, even with i3 (and even in the presence of tmux).
- Sammi 7y ago"It's meant to be used with..." You lost me right there. I don't care how Alacritty wants the world to work. I care how I want things to work.
- cercatrova 7y agoThen it's not meant for you then. Products have use cases that are not necessarily your use cases. With tmux, alacritty is great and doesn't need tabs.
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- hestefisk 7y agoYou can shift scroll and it changes font size as in any other Windows app.
- philliphaydon 7y agoctrl+scroll on Windows.
- Kipters 7y agoIt opens the JSON file with your default JSON editor (same behavior VSCode had at its beginning, the settings UI came later). They're also going to develop a settings UI for Terminal but it will came later. Also, since you're a Mac guy you'd be happy to know you can press ctrl + comma to open the settings
- jimueller 7y agosettle, that's why people like it
- DedlySnek 7y agoYeah, for now it is JSON only. Here is the issue, tracking the work on the Settings UI: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/1564 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/1564
- JdeBP 7y agoSee: * https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/1564 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/1564 * https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/4232 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/4232 Note the discussion of JSONC in the latter.
- pottertheotter 7y agoI agree! I primarily work on a Mac and love iTerm 2. I occasionally use a Windows computer and saw everyone raving about Windows Terminal a few weeks ago and decided to give it a go. It was quite a frustrating experience to try to configure anything. I eventually decided not to bother.