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At least the Italians took pizza and made it into a very good dish compared to the US version which is way overloaded, cheesy and greasy :)

moron4hire 7y ago
I think you're missing the point of pizza
- Kuinox 7y ago
  Making things greasy/cheesy does not make them better.
  - moron4hire 7y ago
    "greasy" is usually a failure of cooking method. Even deep-fried food should not feel terribly greasy, if cooked at the right temperature. But cheese. Cheese is life.
    - Kuinox 7y ago
      there is really good pizza without any cheese. But I do pick often 4 cheese pizza, it must be fine cheese or it's tasteless. Raw milk cheese or nothing.
  - ravenstine 7y ago
    I like greasy pizza.
    - throwaway17_17 7y ago
      ‘Greasy’ pizza deserves its own category, comparing an amazingly greasy slice of meat topped pizza with a spicy sauce to NYC pizza or American ‘Neapolitan’ pizza via New Haven ala Sally’s (it’s better than Pepe’s, fight me) is like comparing sushi to ramen. All of it can be great!
    - DonHopkins 7y ago
      Especially the kind that requires you to put napkins under your elbows to catch the grease.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  I guess there are different expectations. If you like greasy you already have a lot fried foods to choose from...
marcosdumay 7y ago
You would hate Brazil :)
anthonypasq 7y ago
Anyone that trashes US pizza has no idea what they are talking about. Dominoes is not American pizza as much as McDonald's are not American burgers. Go to an actual good pizzeria in New York and if you still complain about it, im going to assume you are lying.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  Give me a name and I will check it out when I get there. I remember going to an excellent pizza place in White Plains.
  - seanhunter 7y ago
    Keste on the corner of Bleeker and Morton in Greenwich Village in NYC. It's fantastic.
- zoonosis 7y ago
  Just an single data point, but this Italian thinks pizza from Naples is way better than pizza from New York [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/OUo4MUSY0v4?t=149 https://youtu.be/OUo4MUSY0v4?t=149
  - viklove 7y ago
    Neapolitan pizza? I have no doubt that it's better in Naples. Any other type of pizza? NYC and Chicago have you beat six ways from Sunday.
  - RandallBrown 7y ago
    Kind of a weird video. It basically comes down to "This isn't Neopolitan Pizza so it's not as good." Neopolitan pizza has a whole association that certifies restaurants and Lombardi's isn't on that list. It's no surprise that the pizza will a different style. It's also pretty funny he mentions that in Italy they fold their pizza, when that is practically the defining characteristic of New York style pizza.
    - 7y ago
jimbokun 7y ago
My Italian born father-in-law insists pizza is better in the US than in Italy.
- adventured 7y ago
  The problem I find with any reference to 'US pizza' - is it's an impossible comparison. There is, of course, no such thing. There are approximately 407 different pizza establishments in every small city in the US, and they all make their pizza differently. One thing the US doesn't lack for, is variety in its pizza offerings. It's the same problem that crops up when foreigners proclaim that American chocolate is horrible. Which of the countless different domestic brands? They think Hershey's chocolate is the primary chocolate Americans can buy, it's amusing. The same thing happens in discussions about cheese. It stems from most nations having small consumer & manufacturing economies, small numbers of suppliers of things. It makes it difficult to understand or relate to the enormous scale of the US consumer market (so large it produced Walmart, a $523 billion sales behemoth that is as big as the economies of Poland, Belgium or Sweden). The only proper consumer & manufacturing scale references are to the entire EU or China. It's almost the equivalent of saying pizza in the EU is good or bad; or cheese in the EU is good or bad. It would make absolutely no sense.
  - ravenstine 7y ago
    I don't think that most people who have had pizza from the top US pizza chains and have had a more "authentic" Italian pizza have trouble distinguishing the two. Italian pizzas are known for having thinner crust, a small amount of sauce, and more basic ingredients(albeit much more fresh usually), probably incorporates more olive oil, in contrast with something from, say, Pizza Hutt. American pizza has breadier and simply uses more of everything. A lot more saucy, a lot more cheesy. Don't get me started on stuffed crust! While there is a variety of toppings, most people go for a handful. Right now, zany combinations of toppings and sauces are popular, but people still most often choose pepperoni, sausage, "veggies", bacon w/ pineapple, etc. I don't understand how you can call it an impossible comparison; most pizza joints in America share very similar menus and kinds of pizzas. Even pizza in New Zealand, when I lived there, was significantly different from American pizza. It's closer to American pizza, but Kiwis really love to use tangier sauces, which for some reason they also drizzled on to the pizzas. They even did this at Pizza Hutt. Everywhere has regional differences. To claim otherwise is a bit blind, in my opinion. Just because American culture is mainstream doesn't mean that it's not distinct from other cultures it's related to.

moron4hire 7y ago

I think you're missing the point of pizza

Kuinox 7y ago
Making things greasy/cheesy does not make them better.
- moron4hire 7y ago
  "greasy" is usually a failure of cooking method. Even deep-fried food should not feel terribly greasy, if cooked at the right temperature. But cheese. Cheese is life.
  - Kuinox 7y ago
    there is really good pizza without any cheese. But I do pick often 4 cheese pizza, it must be fine cheese or it's tasteless. Raw milk cheese or nothing.
- ravenstine 7y ago
  I like greasy pizza.
  - throwaway17_17 7y ago
    ‘Greasy’ pizza deserves its own category, comparing an amazingly greasy slice of meat topped pizza with a spicy sauce to NYC pizza or American ‘Neapolitan’ pizza via New Haven ala Sally’s (it’s better than Pepe’s, fight me) is like comparing sushi to ramen. All of it can be great!
  - DonHopkins 7y ago
    Especially the kind that requires you to put napkins under your elbows to catch the grease.
Ididntdothis 7y ago
I guess there are different expectations. If you like greasy you already have a lot fried foods to choose from...

marcosdumay 7y ago

You would hate Brazil :)

anthonypasq 7y ago

Anyone that trashes US pizza has no idea what they are talking about. Dominoes is not American pizza as much as McDonald's are not American burgers. Go to an actual good pizzeria in New York and if you still complain about it, im going to assume you are lying.

Ididntdothis 7y ago
Give me a name and I will check it out when I get there. I remember going to an excellent pizza place in White Plains.
- seanhunter 7y ago
  Keste on the corner of Bleeker and Morton in Greenwich Village in NYC. It's fantastic.
zoonosis 7y ago
Just an single data point, but this Italian thinks pizza from Naples is way better than pizza from New York [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/OUo4MUSY0v4?t=149 https://youtu.be/OUo4MUSY0v4?t=149
- viklove 7y ago
  Neapolitan pizza? I have no doubt that it's better in Naples. Any other type of pizza? NYC and Chicago have you beat six ways from Sunday.
- RandallBrown 7y ago
  Kind of a weird video. It basically comes down to "This isn't Neopolitan Pizza so it's not as good." Neopolitan pizza has a whole association that certifies restaurants and Lombardi's isn't on that list. It's no surprise that the pizza will a different style. It's also pretty funny he mentions that in Italy they fold their pizza, when that is practically the defining characteristic of New York style pizza.
  - 7y ago

jimbokun 7y ago

My Italian born father-in-law insists pizza is better in the US than in Italy.

adventured 7y ago
The problem I find with any reference to 'US pizza' - is it's an impossible comparison. There is, of course, no such thing. There are approximately 407 different pizza establishments in every small city in the US, and they all make their pizza differently. One thing the US doesn't lack for, is variety in its pizza offerings. It's the same problem that crops up when foreigners proclaim that American chocolate is horrible. Which of the countless different domestic brands? They think Hershey's chocolate is the primary chocolate Americans can buy, it's amusing. The same thing happens in discussions about cheese. It stems from most nations having small consumer & manufacturing economies, small numbers of suppliers of things. It makes it difficult to understand or relate to the enormous scale of the US consumer market (so large it produced Walmart, a $523 billion sales behemoth that is as big as the economies of Poland, Belgium or Sweden). The only proper consumer & manufacturing scale references are to the entire EU or China. It's almost the equivalent of saying pizza in the EU is good or bad; or cheese in the EU is good or bad. It would make absolutely no sense.
- ravenstine 7y ago
  I don't think that most people who have had pizza from the top US pizza chains and have had a more "authentic" Italian pizza have trouble distinguishing the two. Italian pizzas are known for having thinner crust, a small amount of sauce, and more basic ingredients(albeit much more fresh usually), probably incorporates more olive oil, in contrast with something from, say, Pizza Hutt. American pizza has breadier and simply uses more of everything. A lot more saucy, a lot more cheesy. Don't get me started on stuffed crust! While there is a variety of toppings, most people go for a handful. Right now, zany combinations of toppings and sauces are popular, but people still most often choose pepperoni, sausage, "veggies", bacon w/ pineapple, etc. I don't understand how you can call it an impossible comparison; most pizza joints in America share very similar menus and kinds of pizzas. Even pizza in New Zealand, when I lived there, was significantly different from American pizza. It's closer to American pizza, but Kiwis really love to use tangier sauces, which for some reason they also drizzled on to the pizzas. They even did this at Pizza Hutt. Everywhere has regional differences. To claim otherwise is a bit blind, in my opinion. Just because American culture is mainstream doesn't mean that it's not distinct from other cultures it's related to.