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I was recently browsing budget laptops and was astonished to find that 1366 x 768 displays are still a thing.
by sb057 7y ago
I was recently browsing budget laptops and was astonished to find that 1366 x 768 displays are still a thing.
- bduerst 7y agoYep, 1080 is still (sadly) considered not too bad for a laptop.
- okaycan 7y agoMay I ask why is 1080 sad? I have been on 1366x768 during the early 2010s. But switch to 1080 over the last couple of years. While my personal desktop is on 1440p, 1080 is still very much a 'good enough' resolution for corporate work and day-to-day browsing usage. I see this trend to stick around for the next 5 years at least because most consumers don't really see non-marginal benefit in moving to 1440p.
- chrisseaton 7y ago> May I ask why is 1080 sad? A serious laptop these days might have 1800 rows or so. 1080 is pretty miserable. Pixels are going to be large and blocky and text (which is what most corporate work and day to day browsing is) is going to be blurry and poorly defined.
- genS3 7y agoactually most of the time laptops (beside super expensive macbooks) are very bad at using 4k and the screen look way blurier than a nice sony vaio 1080p screen (what an amazin computer it was) from almost 10 years ago. especially with windows still sucking at really handling 4k
- kadoban 7y ago1440 is a thing, you don't have to go right to 4k (which yeah is often going to be a mistake in a budget to mid-tier machine).
- cnasc 7y agoEven MacBooks are scaled to something that looks like a crisper 1440x900 (the 13-inch at least). And they aren’t 4K native resolution. It’s nice to have better looking font, but it’s the kind of feature that sort of disappears for me over a long session unless I’m comparing 2 displays. In terms of usable screen space, 1080p can be either adequate or a little too much depending on display size. I have to zoom my X270 in a bit.
- int_19h 7y agoI run a 4K desktop and a 4K laptop, and both have excellent visuals with crisp text on Win10. The only things that still suck at 4K are old apps, but there's only so much the OS can do about them short of just refusing to run apps that are too old (which is the Apple way of handling such things).
- Dylan16807 7y agoIf you get a screen appropriate for running at 2x zoom then there shouldn't be any visual problems caused by the rescaling.
- mixmastamyk 7y agoI have two Dell 4k monitors that allow for incredibly sharp text. Weren't that expensive. Can pry them out of my cold dead hands. Only thing I wish for is a squarer aspect ratio, 16:10, 3:2, etc, which (even more) sadly aren't allowed any more.
- kxrm 7y agoYup, the Microsoft Surface line has really spoiled me here. I was hoping to see more 3:2 ratio displays as a result. Not sure why but everything just went wrap around or double wide instead of a more productive A9 ratio. I have heard rumors that Microsoft will release a display to compliment the line. I hope it's true.
- Can_Not 7y ago1080p is barely big enough for 2 windows side-by-side. A bit short in general, too. We had 1920x1200 before the 16:9 craze took over (a decade ago?).
- tasty_freeze 7y agoI have the reverse problem. I want a laptop with a 1TB SSD, but those seem to appear only in configurations with other premium options, such as 4K displays. My 55 year old eyes can't see 4K resolution, so I'd prefer to save the money, power, and time not painting them. 1920x1080 works for me.
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- abacadaba 7y agoare nvme slots a thing yet? i have a 1tb one. it's pretty tiny. it cost me $70. why is it so hard to put one of these inside a laptop?
- llampx 7y agoIts really not that hard to find a laptop with upgradeable SSDs and even RAM. We just have to stop buying laptops with soldered, non-upgradeable everything.
- _wzsf 7y agoYou can buy a 1TB SATA SSD for like $120 or a 1TB NVMe SSD for around twice that.
- kadoban 7y agoIt really depends on the laptop how easy that replacement is, but yeah that can be a _great_ option. A friend got a great deal on a laptop that would have been perfect except it was spinning-rust-only. So we upgraded that to an SSD and saved probably $400 for an hours work.
- phonon 7y agoThere are plenty of under $500 laptops with 15.6" FHD IPS screens that you can upgrade the RAM, M2 and 2.5" storage slots. I just updated a $300 Acer with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD, cost me less than $200 extra.
- jpalomaki 7y ago1920x1080 on 14” and you don’t need scaling. That’s the reason why I go with that resolution. Scaling is still not perfect on Windows.
- bhauer 7y agoAccording to Mozilla's data [1], 1366x768 was just this past year eclipsed as the most common desktop resolution. By the only incrementally superior 1920x1080. [1] https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware
- kbenson 7y agoIt may be as close as you can get to actually being incrementally superior, but double the pixels does make a big difference in this case.
- Can_Not 7y agoThere are at least 2 normal increments between 720p and 1080p.
- bavell 7y agoThe point being made is that doubling the number of pixels is quite significant. Calling it incremental is a little short-sighted IMO.
- kbenson 7y agoI was originally going to note exactly that, but then I actually did the math and noted that 1366x768 is 1.0005 megapixels, and 1920x1080 is 1.98 megapixels, which is pretty close to an integer increment when looked through that lens, so decided that was worth accepting (and interesting enough in a nerdy way to allude to).
- blaser-waffle 7y agoNot a hardware guy -- would that be 720i and 1080i?
- maxton 7y agoAt least for wide screen ratios, there’s 1366x768 and 1440x900
- Aperocky 7y agoI had one of those I bought in 2017 for $200. Used it to play with distros and do lab work. It was definitely worth it. It even had another ram slot to stick another piece of RAM to make it 8G. You get used to the display, it’s text editing anyways.
- nolok 7y agoYou really don't, you either deal with the impossibility to see much text at once, or with absolutely crappy font rendering. When I needed an underpowered cheap laptop in 2016 for text editing I bought an asus X-something that had 8 hours of battery life, some atom anemic cpu and 4GB of RAM for 210€ and even that came with a 1080p screen.
- Aperocky 7y agoI’m not the kind where I stack millions of words on microscopic font. I prefer to work from afar with comfortable sized font. Which didn’t make that much trouble. Another big reason why I don’t like IDE because they have too much panel taking up space, terminals doesn’t have this problem.
- nolok 7y agoI'm sorry but I work with size 14 Consolas in visual studio code which is a far cry from microscopic font, and the difference in rendering quality at the same size on both resolution is massive.
- arvinsim 7y agoI am still waiting for cheap HiDPI monitors and more OS support. Seems that most monitors nowadays are focusing on high framerates for gaming and colorspace support for visual creatives. The latter are usually very expensive. I just want some 27"-32" monitors with very high dpi, framerates and color accuracy be damned.
- DoctorOetker 7y ago>Seems that most monitors nowadays are focusing on high framerates for gaming and colorspace support for visual creatives. The latter are usually very expensive. Disregarding the high framerates, I often wondered if someone ever wrote a display application that achieves higher dynamic range by alternating pixel values over frames, sure it would need to be calibrated, say by a photodiode stuck against the screen, lowpass filtering the signal... It seems like one might "try out HDR" on conventional monitors, to find out if they are worth it... \ which also raises the question if these HDR monitors are not simply storing the last frame(s) to deduce what the appropriate 24bpp (8b per channel) intensities should be such that for static images & static gaze the illusion of HDR is recreated... perhaps this exact trick is what caused ghosting in the first generations of LCD monitors?
- Tobias42 7y agoI don't know if $700 qualifies as cheap, but the iiyama ProLite XB2779QQS-S1 (5K) seems to fit your description. I am quite happy with mine.