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What were the creepiest declassified documents of the last decade?

174 points by sbmthakur 7y ago

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
FBI unclassified documents on “the finders” from 1984: https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders Includes the stuff of nightmares. Child abuse, satanic rituals. A “school” with underground tunnels. Fire alarm switch in classrooms for alerting other rooms. > unsure if children had been kidnapped > children were extremely hungry and urinated and defecated on the floor during questioning > states they were under the control of the “Game Caller” in DC [name classified] > each classroom has on/off fire alarm switch that was used to alert other classrooms. > 45 foot tunnel under school connecting school with nearby triplex You can’t make this stuff up. And that’s not even all of the disturbing things. Excuse the name in the link[1] but it’s a good break down. And the worst part about all of this? The whole thing was closed down as it was “stepping on the CIA’s toes” — that’s right. Where are the children??? https://mobile.twitter.com/davenyviii/status/1187865563479117825?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/davenyviii/status/118786556347911...
- rolltiide 7y ago
  > You can’t make this stuff up I mean, I could.
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- 0xcde4c3db 7y ago
  > You can’t make this stuff up. As far as anyone can tell, a lot of people did make up allegations strikingly similar to these [1], and the evidence that people can make stuff up without realizing it is fairly compelling [2] [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy
  - fenwick67 7y ago
    The other thing to bear in mind with stuff like this, the FBI investigates stuff all the time and it turns out there was nothing there. One of the more interesting examples is their investigation into the song Louie Louie: https://groovyhistory.com/louie-louie-kingsmen-fbi-investigation https://groovyhistory.com/louie-louie-kingsmen-fbi-investiga... This was the height of the Satanic Panic. Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing, some facts planted on purpose by the CIA, or what.
    - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
      > Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing I can't personally come to the same conclusion. This is a documented, declassified event of a pretty dark and unsettling case that was closed directly because it was a CIA operation. That's in the signed documents by the FBI, it's not a theory. What types of CIA operation scenarios can happen here that make this less unsettling? A benevolent daycare operation for employees? What does the CIA do?
      - fenwick67 7y ago
        My impression is that they found out the CIA was already involved in some way and the FBI just closed the book to get out of their way. The CIA's involvement could have been anything. Could have been an international cult they were looking into, an experiment to try and get kids to summon The Horned God, or a brainwashing experiment, or they could have been involved because some diplomat's kid was there and they wanted to influence them. My point is that without the CIA docs there's no way to tell what was really going on or how nefarious this really was.
        AndrewBissell 7y ago
        When I see the CIA discussed in these terms, where people make all kinds of lawless and insane behavior out to be a routine matter of course, my first thought is "we should probably abolish the CIA, just to be safe."
- tanzbaer 7y ago
  Fascinating how this isn't the top comment.
  - aldoushuxley001 7y ago
    Politics > actually answering the question
    - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
      In your words what are the politics involved with "the finders" declassified documents? I don't really see this as a partisan issue, though I suspect it's perceived that way (and would be my first explanation for why there's not a greater appetite from people getting the "truth" -- whatever that ends up being).
      - crocodiletears 7y ago
        Affluent pedophile cult conspiracy theories have been a staple of fringe right-wing elements, and the militia movement for some time. Especially recently they've been associated with the populist wing of the Republican Party (pizzagate, Alex Jones). Given those associations, and the surreal nature of the claims, it's hard not to blame a lot of liberal-leaning people for reflexively dismissing them. But Epstein's recent death, and the facts surrounding his case seem to indicate that many of those theories once readily dismissed as the product of fevered minds may actualy need to be reevaluated, even if they only contain a kernel of the truth individually.
- crooked-v 7y ago
  > 45 foot tunnel under school connecting school with nearby triplex That didn't actually exist. Two separate excavations never found signs of anything under the school except for a small crawl space someone had dumped some trash into. The mistake you're making here is assuming that all of the accusations in that report are corroborated. They aren't. Most of it is just a collection of claims made by assorted people, not anything to do with actually investigating those claims.
  - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
    Can you provide the additional information? I'm going entirely off of the declassified FBI document (linked). Are you suggesting the documents are fake? I'd love to learn more.
    - AndrewBissell 7y ago
      The document contains a pretty detailed description of the findings of an excavation under the school which found a lot more than just a crawl space. So for the commonly accepted narrative to be true, that probably would have to have been fabricated. Unfortunately I can't find in the document who carried out the excavation and wrote the report.
      - crooked-v 7y ago
        See a 2002 report on the subject: https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/77/96 https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/... > The contents of the “tunnels” further support the likelihood that Stickel had found an old trash pit. Stickel listed many objects that he found (pps. 54, 70, 75). These included sections of boards, wood fragments, a variety of metal objects, an inner tube, numerous bottles, TV antenna wire, tin cans, scissors, eye glasses, exposed film, cinder blocks, plywood, tar paper, roofing nails, four trash-filled pots (three of metal, one of crockery, the largest about fourteen inches tall, all in disrepair), a one-gallon glass food jar, 35 to 40 rusted tin can fragments, a crockery lid, an old medicine bottle, various glass fragments from a large jar, a small “pestle-like stone,” a rusted metal rod, and 60 to 70 rusted metal can fragments. > More likely, however, is that the alarm switches were placed relatively high on the walls because staff did not want children to set off false fire alarms. The archeologist seems to have considered neither this ordinary reason that fire alarm switches had been placed relatively high on the wall, nor why the switches had been connected to a bell whose location was outside the preschool’s front office door where parents and others entering the building surely would have heard the alarm’s ring.
- 6d6f6c6f6368 7y ago
  This is absolutely unsettling. I thought this was one of the biggest drops of the decade. We know how corrupt the FBI and especially the CIA is, especially post-Epstein era. Who investigates the investigators? I would take anything the FBI concludes with a grain of salt.
  - vorpalhex 7y ago
    > especially post-Epstein era What do you mean by that?
    - 6d6f6c6f6368 7y ago
      The fact that he was an intelligence asset, went to court and barely got hit with anything. The prosecutor was told to leave Epstein alone. Down vote me all you want but that doesn't change the fact ABC agencies have a direct hand in child sex trafficking and abuse. Scumbags are going to jail and it's obvious ycombinator has been infiltrated by damage control operatives.
- rmah 7y ago
  IIRC, most of those were just accusations and quite possibly just "made up".
  - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
    With these documents, who is "making up" the story? The FBI agents? The school administrators with tunnels, "fire alarms" and knobless, locked doors? The children being interviewed? With regards to the last point, they include that the tunnel entrants and exits were as described by the children, suggesting they weren’t making it up.
    - 6d6f6c6f6368 7y ago
      These people are either straight up delusional or are operatives to push disinformation. It's a shame too, I thought HN was a great place for discussion
    - crooked-v 7y ago
      > they include that the tunnel entrants and exits were as described by the children Except that, you know, nobody ever actually found those. The school had an unbroken concrete slab under it with holes just big enough for sewer pipes. > "fire alarms" The "fire alarms" were... fire alarms. https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/77/96 https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/... > More likely, however, is that the alarm switches were placed relatively high on the walls because staff did not want children to set off false fire alarms. The archeologist seems to have considered neither this ordinary reason that fire alarm switches had been placed relatively high on the wall, nor why the switches had been connected to a bell whose location was outside the preschool’s front office door where parents and others entering the building surely would have heard the alarm’s ring.
  - AndrewBissell 7y ago
    What you are recalling is what was widely reported in mass media shortly after the McMartin story broke, a lot of which is contradicted by the FBI dump.
- CodingSucks 7y ago
  Oh look, DefendJeffreyEpsteinNews downvoted this. Color me surprised.
hyper_reality 7y ago
The Panama Papers are a good nomination, the "creepy" part being how quickly it all blew over. The story was squashed by the rich and powerful, especially in China where it was wiped off the Chinese internet. Business continued as usual with top politicians and their families worldwide evading the laws of their own nations.
- serf 7y ago
  I think the Panama Papers have my vote too. an aside, I once recently wrote an email to Noam Chomsky. One of my questions was something like "do you think the relationship betweeen state and corporate entities has changed recently in comparison to the Vietnam era?". The answer I received back was (something like) "Corporations have more power than ever. Read through the Panama Paper leaks and the surrounding news." It was eye-opening just how far reaching that stuff goes, and for as little outrage as it generated. I totally agree with you. I chaulk it up to the publics' 'outrage-fatigue' at the time. Or at least I hope that's why it got so little attention.
  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    I'm not sure the Panama Papers are a particularly strong example of the thesis. Well into the 1950s, some corporations had the power to get small governments overthrown. If the worst thing a modern corporation can do is construct weird offshore entities to confuse tax collectors, we're doing pretty well.
    - ksdale 7y ago
      I agree, I recently watched The Laundromat on Netflix and while it was entertaining due to sheer star power, the commentary on the Panama Papers sounded like it was written by a high schooler. It breathlessly mentioned how many corporations are headquartered in Delaware and the only reason it gave was tax avoidance, nevermind the fact that Delaware does actually have a state income tax, unlike that corporate tax haven Washington state, and nevermind the fact that Delaware's body of commercial law is world-renowned. The plot points that were meant to evoke the most outrage were things that were already fraud or super sketchy, regardless of the tax shelter stuff. It's like, "Can you believe that someone would enter a contract and then not honor their side of the deal and then fly outside of the U.S.'s jurisdiction?!" And then they make it sound like it's a tax law issue and not a criminal getting on an airplane issue.
thrower123 7y ago
The Afghanistan papers recently released are pretty damning. It was pretty obvious that we were bumbling around with no real plan or end goal in sight, but having the depths of that purposelessness laid out in stark relief is... wow.
- dnautics 7y ago
  Have you seen restrepo? I highly recommend it.
- unlinked_dll 7y ago
  What's more apparent is that the goals of the war in Afghanistan kept changing and became increasingly ill defined. Which is comical in like the cosmic sense, since American military doctrine has always held that the most important part of military strategy is to have a well defined, primary objective. As well, our greatest political thinkers like Kissinger have repeated ad nauseam that military force is a political tool to achieve political goals. The irony is that Afghanistan is the biggest proof by example of our own foreign policy doctrine, by way of ignoring it entirely.
  - gerikson 7y ago
    The same could be said about Vietnam, which makes the situation in Afghanistan all the more depressing.
  - whatshisface 7y ago
    I guess "political goals" meant "getting elected" and "pleasing lobbyists."
  - philwelch 7y ago
    This was one of the major conclusions of James Mattis’ recently-published memoir. The civilian government is in charge of the military, but when they choose to deploy the military, it’s their job—not the military’s—to define the objective. They haven’t done a good job of that lately.
  - harry8 7y ago
arethuza 7y ago
Daniel Ellsberg's The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner certainly gave me a few nights of troubled sleep.
- freewilly1040 7y ago
  His Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers is the one of the best books about politics and war I've ever read
- arethuza 7y ago
  For some reason his description of the fate of Finland particularly shocked me - the US would have completely destroyed this country (along with at least 100 million Western Europeans) in a "general war".
whoisjuan 7y ago
The Mars remote viewing is honestly hilarious. > CIA: Hey Mr. Seer, please look into Mars a million years back in this coordinates. > Seer: Oh, I see a pyramid and aliens and shit. > CIA: Awesome. Here is a check for your services. Edit: The actual transcript here https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788...
- aldoushuxley001 7y ago
  wow, that was a fascinating read. Thanks for the link. Almost guaranteed they're still doing experiments like this.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    Stargate Project was closed in 1995 [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Closure_(1995) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Closure_(1995...
    - lostgame 7y ago
      And you don't think they've replaced it with a similar program? I personally think telling the public the program was shut down and didn't have great results could easily be a red herring. Truth be told - if there was a lot of success from Psyops programs, and you were the US military, would you want a lot of people to know?
      - Fnoord 7y ago
        Doesn't matter what I think; only thing which matters is if there is proof of such, or clues which lead to a hypothesis that such exists. Feel free to share such. The way it went in history is that the US started with it to bait the USSR into spending money into a worthless project (which succeeded). Then, the US replied to that with "what if it is real?" There was still a lot of belief in "the paranormal" back then; nowadays we know much more about the techniques behind paranormal scam artists. I've seen various documentaries on these programs (including about remote viewing and Ingo Swann [1], a scientologist), and from my memory the results of these programs were lackluster. Sure, there were some hits, as there are hits with cold reading and guessing. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann
pp19dd 7y ago
Page 155 of that Hitler psychological analysis performed by the OSS in 1943: > "8. Hitler might commit suicide. This is the most plausible outcome. Not only has he frequently threatened to commit suicide, but from what we know of his psychology it is the most likely possibility. It is probably true that he has an inordinate fear of death, but being an hysteric he could undoubtedly screw himself up into the super-man character and perform the deed. In all probability, however, it would not be a simple suicide. He has much too much of the dramatic for that and since immortality is one of his dominant motives we can imagine that he would stage the most dramatic and effective death scene he could possibly think of..."
- philwelch 7y ago
  Hitler’s suicide wasn’t so dramatic as all that, aside from the fact that it was Hitler.
  - pp19dd 7y ago
    You're right. What I found fascinating is how these guys theorized their way into the ballpark of what happened. They proposed eight possible future outcomes as the war unfolded and to their credit listed this one as the most likely one. Though to be fair, the passage in context didn't so much as predict suicide but warned about a staged suicide's propagandizing impact on future generations.
    - philwelch 7y ago
      There was a lot of weird, now-discredited crap in that profile TBH. The part where Hitler’s grandmother was a maidservant to “Baron Rothschild” who secretly fathered Alois Hitler was mostly bizarre and unsubstantiated gossip. But the fact remains that psychology was at the time (and remains today) a very immature science, so combining that method with source data collected through the fog of war by a spy agency is bound to go down a few weird directions.
- Fnoord 7y ago
  > [...] This is the most plausible outcome. I'd like to know how they got to that conclusion. Apart from that, the way he committed suicide actually wasn't dramatic: "The will was a short document stating that they had chosen death over capitulation, and that they were to be cremated [..]" [1] which is how it happened. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_will_and_testament_of_Adolf_Hitler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_will_and_testament_of_Ado...
tyingq 7y ago
The CIA putting implants into dog's brains to remotely control them was pretty creepy. https://www.newsweek.com/cia-mkultra-documents-files-remote-control-dogs-1250519 https://www.newsweek.com/cia-mkultra-documents-files-remote-...
- rdtsc 7y ago
  > "Such a system depends for its effectiveness on two properties of electrical stimulation delivered to certain deep lying structures of the dog brain: the well-known reward effect, and a tendency for such stimulation to initiate and maintain locomotion in a direction which is accompanied by the continued delivery of stimulation. > "Behavioral control was limited to distances of 100 to 200 yards, at most," they write in the letter > The letter writer characterizes the work with remote-controlling dogs as a success, describing "a demonstrated procedure for controlling the free-field behaviors of an unrestrained dog." That is pretty creepy. That is 1960s, and assuming CIA hasn't evolved a moral compass since, I imagine they might not have completely given up on the idea and it's interesting to think what it might look like today with all nano and wireless technology.
  - lostgame 7y ago
    >> I imagine they might not have completely given up on the idea I also imagine if they would, they wouldn't exactly want that to be public knowledge. It's important to remember the military is years ahead of the rest of us, tech-wise. I can't imagine, really, the amount of crazy shit we're not supposed to see.
    - pluto9 7y ago
      Military tech is not ahead of civilian tech except for a handful of things that are either useless (stealth aircraft) or illegal (weapons systems) for civilians. And even in those cases, most of the constituent parts of those systems are extremely obsolete by civilian standards. The idea that the military has a vast arsenal of high tech gadgets and sci-fi weapons is a myth created by Hollywood.
landonxjames 7y ago
The Afghanistan Papers[0] were published a few weeks ago and didn't get nearly as much traction as I hoped they would. A stunning documentation of the incompetence of America's strategy in the Middle East over the past two decades. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/...
- Pinckney 7y ago
  Maybe this is off topic, but am I the only one uncomfortable with the Post seeking names of interviewees? > The reports also omitted the names of more than 90 percent of the people who were interviewed for the project. While a few officials agreed to speak on the record to SIGAR, the agency said it promised anonymity to everyone else it interviewed to avoid controversy over politically sensitive matters. > ... > The Post has asked a federal judge to force SIGAR to disclose the names of everyone else interviewed, arguing that the public has a right to know which officials criticized the war and asserted that the government had misled the American people. The Post also argued the officials were not whistleblowers or informants, because they were not interviewed as part of an investigation. One of the key problems identified by this report is that military and government officials didn't want to hear bad news. People on the ground felt like they had to paint an overly rosy picture. The SIGAR report seems like an attempt to address that by enabling them to speak anonymously, but the Post doesn't seem concerned that publicizing identities may hamstring such internal government investigations in the future.
- remarkEon 7y ago
  This was a frankly heartbreaking read. It feels like everyone missed it too.
  - bsanr2 7y ago
    Well, not everyone. There were protests throughout the length of the war. A lot of people looked at the history of US intervention, of foreign intervention in Afghanistan, and at the motivations of the people calling the shots, and said, from Day 1, "This is not going to work out." Aaron McGruder famously had their number, and reached out daily to Americans whose newspapers hadn't canceled publication of his strip (https://www.gocomics.com/boondocks/2016/12/13 https://www.gocomics.com/boondocks/2016/12/13). They were right, most Americans were wrong, and I don't know if we'll ever fully reckon with that fact. On that note, I hope people are listening to Sarah Kendzior's work these days.
zrth 7y ago
Probably the "China Cables". The manual used to run the Xinjiang concentration camps. Leaked just a few month ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables Wiki: The China Cables are a small cache of secret Chinese government documents contained in a telegram, 4 bulletins and one court document from 2017. The cables were leaked by exiled Uighurs to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and published on November 24, 2019. The telegram details the first known operations manual for running the 1,300 to 1,400 mass internment camps of Muslim Uighurs in Xinjiang, which China denied until 2018 and since calls re-education camps.
- corporate_shi11 7y ago
  1,300 to 1,400! The scale of this is sufficient for true cultural genocide.
  - zrth 7y ago
    Its not 1300 detainees its 1,300 to 1,400 mass internment camps! There are only about 12 Million Uyghurs to stat with. Thats 1 Camp for every ~ 10K Uyghurs! According to wiki there are 1 million – 3 million detainees.
    - corporate_shi11 7y ago
      And we sit idly by and do nothing. Yet companies and famous people have the gall to publicly criticize in the most damning terms the United States while meekly saying not a word against the almighty CCP.
      - blaser-waffle 7y ago
        Such is the allure of cheap goods and large consumer bases.
    - philwelch 7y ago
      Meanwhile the ones who aren’t detained are held in check by the threat of detention. Uighur women whose husbands are detained are forced to accept CCP men into their homes and share their beds with them.
throw123452343 7y ago
Not a 'declassification', but an insane investigative documentary. Cold Case Hammarskjöld https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9352780/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9352780/ It talks about how CIA/MI5 killed UN Secretary General in the 60s, but uncovers/interviews people involved with 'SAIMR' a secretive institution rumored to be under the UK, which was using HIV as a means for achieving white-supremacy in apartheid South Africa by maliciously infecting the black population. The reviews often dismiss this as 'satirical fiction', but quite frankly I don't buy that. It's just insane how little we know about the evil forces that the state wrests... and even the though of an organized racial genocide so many years after WWII is just insane.
mathiasrw 7y ago
The OPCW leak about how evidence of a chemical attack in Syria was fabricated. Maybe the most creepy part is the media blackout.
- bubba1236 7y ago
  go join bashar
alexfromapex 7y ago
Project 1794 basically confirming the government tried to build UFOs. Also, dark side of the moon stuff: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/jul/16/cia-moon-fouo/ https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/jul/16/cia-moon-...
bookAlot 7y ago
The Mueller Report was all about rape in airplanes and rape in the White House and how they use women in shitty jobs (mostlly camwhore types) to conduct field exercise training on men (to grant these women a man they can be sure is trained to know when to spot a possible candidate (for more stockholme derived mind wiped women), to do with drug dealing and local robberies being their method of "teaching" these men how to be in their place for White House friend and party people to rule the United States as just a "fair" class. Like when you got extras on the set in Hollywood making it all more, and sometimes too, glamorous and basically establishing a wiggle room for their lower requirements and then after that for their LOWERED requirements as they are that and need to remit the work and hold themselves as the whole section there (CLERK). Like that but for the White House. Started after Citizen Four, almost certain it was the voice over girl. Then it's also about the discussions that happen between what those are set to do and what happens to those using whatever means they have for discussing what the infrastrcture of such a large scale mechanism might be, so that they can sell the protection in it and offer a security force made up of their side hoes to the local province and require that province to keep those girls paid by the means they have outlined within that fairer class, which they must reach by infrastructure. Almost 100 percent side hoe crush cam whore girl, and they are the dom in that little redress and cycle. That report is why Trump made that anti-hate/no bigotry law, so they can't just pile up things taking their access to infrastructure, and that way they can just be asked not to work then or they risk the man that hired them losing their job, and he drops his crush and she's left a leak and we can supply the infrastructure fake women that we don't tell them never existed, and that let's trump focus on the office and not their "extras" (my side handles the extras). It also had bits about how there is a way to move through the court system in case the next administration catches on but then it like muffles out and requires them to just know. As if through the infrastructure, or least by failing and turning in all the women, instead of having them work and then remove themselves from work, to actually detail how to arrest these women and make it all legal and none of it a war. It's a pretty vicarious effort, whoever wrote it (stolen from Korean warfare documents) is actually probably dead by now or in prison for the rest of their lives. The scene reminds of that Twister book from American Pie. Like they were being suicide agents out of a korean marriage, but to their work, because she "married" her job instead of being married to a man and all that. Crazy stuff. So if you hear 5g whining you read something, side hoe cam whore from a retail job near you, and she is the only one willing to work this long, and they say shit under their breath to mean they are working, like a psy op, to introduce the length of the process they have in mind (like the timing of the thing... timing in here... ..NOT), all out, all in, receding, mother, etc to hide that they are not doing a real job. Just boinking the local swingers (like how Hollywood is not LA and the burbs and valley are not LA either, but those two are also not Hollywood), humping the owner (who is otherwise just a goober with a fat wife), humping anyone that pays for their mocha two times and up front, and making sure they can keep the resounding effect of anything good (or anyone they're asked to watch because it threatens the small choice of pond they have as the owners, or they want to get to try and bone someone's girl and they'll gang stalk until she changes her mind) from being able to actually take root in town for the class of "fair" people to be what roots in and then what the government as the white house, usually just cops and what is left of old parks and recs dudes doing security guard jobs, and security guards too (like the security guard's out of time threat in out of time, where denzel was chief of police) doing their part in it to "root" for anyone willing to use that infrastructure to clarify their side in the battle between what are the gangs in town. That last part is how I knew it was Korean. She had to be in prison for us to see, or jail, but there were people in LA, out of Culver City helping them redress the new administration with an old effort that was basically them being read their crimes back at them, which we are now commited to redressing to civil outcry with a lot of consequences tied to the persons using this infrastructure without the training required to actually learn and use it. And all of it, because there was a new phone put out, that was me and my people and our work, doing the work of preparing to learn how they do things, instead of making a transparent gif, you make sure they don't actually have one to do real work with them, then if they do they're on one of those GUBMENT LISTS. Kinda like that. Mueller Report.
jdkdnfndnfjd 7y ago
My vote goes to the leaked Coca-Cola emails. In particular, one email features a graph that has regions labeled “monitor,” “resist,” “fight” and various threats plotted over them. The disturbing thing is that things like “advertising to children,” “sugar tax,” “recycling mandates,” were all on this graph. It’s crazy to see that coke actually tracks these things and, according to the graph, is taking action against them. Everyone knows that coke doesn’t want certain reforms so it shouldn’t be a surprise but it’s crazy to see how open they are about it internally. How embarrassing.

174 points by sbmthakur 7y ago

FBI unclassified documents on “the finders” from 1984: https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders Includes the stuff of nightmares. Child abuse, satanic rituals. A “school” with underground tunnels. Fire alarm switch in classrooms for alerting other rooms. > unsure if children had been kidnapped > children were extremely hungry and urinated and defecated on the floor during questioning > states they were under the control of the “Game Caller” in DC [name classified] > each classroom has on/off fire alarm switch that was used to alert other classrooms. > 45 foot tunnel under school connecting school with nearby triplex You can’t make this stuff up. And that’s not even all of the disturbing things. Excuse the name in the link[1] but it’s a good break down. And the worst part about all of this? The whole thing was closed down as it was “stepping on the CIA’s toes” — that’s right. Where are the children??? https://mobile.twitter.com/davenyviii/status/1187865563479117825?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/davenyviii/status/118786556347911...

rolltiide 7y ago
> You can’t make this stuff up I mean, I could.
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0xcde4c3db 7y ago
> You can’t make this stuff up. As far as anyone can tell, a lot of people did make up allegations strikingly similar to these [1], and the evidence that people can make stuff up without realizing it is fairly compelling [2] [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy
- fenwick67 7y ago
  The other thing to bear in mind with stuff like this, the FBI investigates stuff all the time and it turns out there was nothing there. One of the more interesting examples is their investigation into the song Louie Louie: https://groovyhistory.com/louie-louie-kingsmen-fbi-investigation https://groovyhistory.com/louie-louie-kingsmen-fbi-investiga... This was the height of the Satanic Panic. Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing, some facts planted on purpose by the CIA, or what.
  - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
    > Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing I can't personally come to the same conclusion. This is a documented, declassified event of a pretty dark and unsettling case that was closed directly because it was a CIA operation. That's in the signed documents by the FBI, it's not a theory. What types of CIA operation scenarios can happen here that make this less unsettling? A benevolent daycare operation for employees? What does the CIA do?
    - fenwick67 7y ago
      My impression is that they found out the CIA was already involved in some way and the FBI just closed the book to get out of their way. The CIA's involvement could have been anything. Could have been an international cult they were looking into, an experiment to try and get kids to summon The Horned God, or a brainwashing experiment, or they could have been involved because some diplomat's kid was there and they wanted to influence them. My point is that without the CIA docs there's no way to tell what was really going on or how nefarious this really was.
      - AndrewBissell 7y ago
        When I see the CIA discussed in these terms, where people make all kinds of lawless and insane behavior out to be a routine matter of course, my first thought is "we should probably abolish the CIA, just to be safe."
tanzbaer 7y ago
Fascinating how this isn't the top comment.
- aldoushuxley001 7y ago
  Politics > actually answering the question
  - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
    In your words what are the politics involved with "the finders" declassified documents? I don't really see this as a partisan issue, though I suspect it's perceived that way (and would be my first explanation for why there's not a greater appetite from people getting the "truth" -- whatever that ends up being).
    - crocodiletears 7y ago
      Affluent pedophile cult conspiracy theories have been a staple of fringe right-wing elements, and the militia movement for some time. Especially recently they've been associated with the populist wing of the Republican Party (pizzagate, Alex Jones). Given those associations, and the surreal nature of the claims, it's hard not to blame a lot of liberal-leaning people for reflexively dismissing them. But Epstein's recent death, and the facts surrounding his case seem to indicate that many of those theories once readily dismissed as the product of fevered minds may actualy need to be reevaluated, even if they only contain a kernel of the truth individually.
crooked-v 7y ago
> 45 foot tunnel under school connecting school with nearby triplex That didn't actually exist. Two separate excavations never found signs of anything under the school except for a small crawl space someone had dumped some trash into. The mistake you're making here is assuming that all of the accusations in that report are corroborated. They aren't. Most of it is just a collection of claims made by assorted people, not anything to do with actually investigating those claims.
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
  Can you provide the additional information? I'm going entirely off of the declassified FBI document (linked). Are you suggesting the documents are fake? I'd love to learn more.
  - AndrewBissell 7y ago
    The document contains a pretty detailed description of the findings of an excavation under the school which found a lot more than just a crawl space. So for the commonly accepted narrative to be true, that probably would have to have been fabricated. Unfortunately I can't find in the document who carried out the excavation and wrote the report.
    - crooked-v 7y ago
      See a 2002 report on the subject: https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/77/96 https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/... > The contents of the “tunnels” further support the likelihood that Stickel had found an old trash pit. Stickel listed many objects that he found (pps. 54, 70, 75). These included sections of boards, wood fragments, a variety of metal objects, an inner tube, numerous bottles, TV antenna wire, tin cans, scissors, eye glasses, exposed film, cinder blocks, plywood, tar paper, roofing nails, four trash-filled pots (three of metal, one of crockery, the largest about fourteen inches tall, all in disrepair), a one-gallon glass food jar, 35 to 40 rusted tin can fragments, a crockery lid, an old medicine bottle, various glass fragments from a large jar, a small “pestle-like stone,” a rusted metal rod, and 60 to 70 rusted metal can fragments. > More likely, however, is that the alarm switches were placed relatively high on the walls because staff did not want children to set off false fire alarms. The archeologist seems to have considered neither this ordinary reason that fire alarm switches had been placed relatively high on the wall, nor why the switches had been connected to a bell whose location was outside the preschool’s front office door where parents and others entering the building surely would have heard the alarm’s ring.
6d6f6c6f6368 7y ago
This is absolutely unsettling. I thought this was one of the biggest drops of the decade. We know how corrupt the FBI and especially the CIA is, especially post-Epstein era. Who investigates the investigators? I would take anything the FBI concludes with a grain of salt.
- vorpalhex 7y ago
  > especially post-Epstein era What do you mean by that?
  - 6d6f6c6f6368 7y ago
    The fact that he was an intelligence asset, went to court and barely got hit with anything. The prosecutor was told to leave Epstein alone. Down vote me all you want but that doesn't change the fact ABC agencies have a direct hand in child sex trafficking and abuse. Scumbags are going to jail and it's obvious ycombinator has been infiltrated by damage control operatives.
rmah 7y ago
IIRC, most of those were just accusations and quite possibly just "made up".
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
  With these documents, who is "making up" the story? The FBI agents? The school administrators with tunnels, "fire alarms" and knobless, locked doors? The children being interviewed? With regards to the last point, they include that the tunnel entrants and exits were as described by the children, suggesting they weren’t making it up.
  - 6d6f6c6f6368 7y ago
    These people are either straight up delusional or are operatives to push disinformation. It's a shame too, I thought HN was a great place for discussion
  - crooked-v 7y ago
    > they include that the tunnel entrants and exits were as described by the children Except that, you know, nobody ever actually found those. The school had an unbroken concrete slab under it with holes just big enough for sewer pipes. > "fire alarms" The "fire alarms" were... fire alarms. https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/77/96 https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/bsi/article/viewFile/... > More likely, however, is that the alarm switches were placed relatively high on the walls because staff did not want children to set off false fire alarms. The archeologist seems to have considered neither this ordinary reason that fire alarm switches had been placed relatively high on the wall, nor why the switches had been connected to a bell whose location was outside the preschool’s front office door where parents and others entering the building surely would have heard the alarm’s ring.
- AndrewBissell 7y ago
  What you are recalling is what was widely reported in mass media shortly after the McMartin story broke, a lot of which is contradicted by the FBI dump.
CodingSucks 7y ago
Oh look, DefendJeffreyEpsteinNews downvoted this. Color me surprised.

hyper_reality 7y ago

The Panama Papers are a good nomination, the "creepy" part being how quickly it all blew over. The story was squashed by the rich and powerful, especially in China where it was wiped off the Chinese internet. Business continued as usual with top politicians and their families worldwide evading the laws of their own nations.

serf 7y ago
I think the Panama Papers have my vote too. an aside, I once recently wrote an email to Noam Chomsky. One of my questions was something like "do you think the relationship betweeen state and corporate entities has changed recently in comparison to the Vietnam era?". The answer I received back was (something like) "Corporations have more power than ever. Read through the Panama Paper leaks and the surrounding news." It was eye-opening just how far reaching that stuff goes, and for as little outrage as it generated. I totally agree with you. I chaulk it up to the publics' 'outrage-fatigue' at the time. Or at least I hope that's why it got so little attention.
- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  I'm not sure the Panama Papers are a particularly strong example of the thesis. Well into the 1950s, some corporations had the power to get small governments overthrown. If the worst thing a modern corporation can do is construct weird offshore entities to confuse tax collectors, we're doing pretty well.
  - ksdale 7y ago
    I agree, I recently watched The Laundromat on Netflix and while it was entertaining due to sheer star power, the commentary on the Panama Papers sounded like it was written by a high schooler. It breathlessly mentioned how many corporations are headquartered in Delaware and the only reason it gave was tax avoidance, nevermind the fact that Delaware does actually have a state income tax, unlike that corporate tax haven Washington state, and nevermind the fact that Delaware's body of commercial law is world-renowned. The plot points that were meant to evoke the most outrage were things that were already fraud or super sketchy, regardless of the tax shelter stuff. It's like, "Can you believe that someone would enter a contract and then not honor their side of the deal and then fly outside of the U.S.'s jurisdiction?!" And then they make it sound like it's a tax law issue and not a criminal getting on an airplane issue.

thrower123 7y ago

The Afghanistan papers recently released are pretty damning. It was pretty obvious that we were bumbling around with no real plan or end goal in sight, but having the depths of that purposelessness laid out in stark relief is... wow.

dnautics 7y ago
Have you seen restrepo? I highly recommend it.
unlinked_dll 7y ago
What's more apparent is that the goals of the war in Afghanistan kept changing and became increasingly ill defined. Which is comical in like the cosmic sense, since American military doctrine has always held that the most important part of military strategy is to have a well defined, primary objective. As well, our greatest political thinkers like Kissinger have repeated ad nauseam that military force is a political tool to achieve political goals. The irony is that Afghanistan is the biggest proof by example of our own foreign policy doctrine, by way of ignoring it entirely.
- gerikson 7y ago
  The same could be said about Vietnam, which makes the situation in Afghanistan all the more depressing.
- whatshisface 7y ago
  I guess "political goals" meant "getting elected" and "pleasing lobbyists."
- philwelch 7y ago
  This was one of the major conclusions of James Mattis’ recently-published memoir. The civilian government is in charge of the military, but when they choose to deploy the military, it’s their job—not the military’s—to define the objective. They haven’t done a good job of that lately.
- harry8 7y ago

arethuza 7y ago

Daniel Ellsberg's The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner certainly gave me a few nights of troubled sleep.

freewilly1040 7y ago
His Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers is the one of the best books about politics and war I've ever read
arethuza 7y ago
For some reason his description of the fate of Finland particularly shocked me - the US would have completely destroyed this country (along with at least 100 million Western Europeans) in a "general war".

whoisjuan 7y ago

The Mars remote viewing is honestly hilarious. > CIA: Hey Mr. Seer, please look into Mars a million years back in this coordinates. > Seer: Oh, I see a pyramid and aliens and shit. > CIA: Awesome. Here is a check for your services. Edit: The actual transcript here https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788...

aldoushuxley001 7y ago
wow, that was a fascinating read. Thanks for the link. Almost guaranteed they're still doing experiments like this.
- Fnoord 7y ago
  Stargate Project was closed in 1995 [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Closure_(1995) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Closure_(1995...
  - lostgame 7y ago
    And you don't think they've replaced it with a similar program? I personally think telling the public the program was shut down and didn't have great results could easily be a red herring. Truth be told - if there was a lot of success from Psyops programs, and you were the US military, would you want a lot of people to know?
    - Fnoord 7y ago
      Doesn't matter what I think; only thing which matters is if there is proof of such, or clues which lead to a hypothesis that such exists. Feel free to share such. The way it went in history is that the US started with it to bait the USSR into spending money into a worthless project (which succeeded). Then, the US replied to that with "what if it is real?" There was still a lot of belief in "the paranormal" back then; nowadays we know much more about the techniques behind paranormal scam artists. I've seen various documentaries on these programs (including about remote viewing and Ingo Swann [1], a scientologist), and from my memory the results of these programs were lackluster. Sure, there were some hits, as there are hits with cold reading and guessing. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann

pp19dd 7y ago

Page 155 of that Hitler psychological analysis performed by the OSS in 1943: > "8. Hitler might commit suicide. This is the most plausible outcome. Not only has he frequently threatened to commit suicide, but from what we know of his psychology it is the most likely possibility. It is probably true that he has an inordinate fear of death, but being an hysteric he could undoubtedly screw himself up into the super-man character and perform the deed. In all probability, however, it would not be a simple suicide. He has much too much of the dramatic for that and since immortality is one of his dominant motives we can imagine that he would stage the most dramatic and effective death scene he could possibly think of..."

philwelch 7y ago
Hitler’s suicide wasn’t so dramatic as all that, aside from the fact that it was Hitler.
- pp19dd 7y ago
  You're right. What I found fascinating is how these guys theorized their way into the ballpark of what happened. They proposed eight possible future outcomes as the war unfolded and to their credit listed this one as the most likely one. Though to be fair, the passage in context didn't so much as predict suicide but warned about a staged suicide's propagandizing impact on future generations.
  - philwelch 7y ago
    There was a lot of weird, now-discredited crap in that profile TBH. The part where Hitler’s grandmother was a maidservant to “Baron Rothschild” who secretly fathered Alois Hitler was mostly bizarre and unsubstantiated gossip. But the fact remains that psychology was at the time (and remains today) a very immature science, so combining that method with source data collected through the fog of war by a spy agency is bound to go down a few weird directions.
Fnoord 7y ago
> [...] This is the most plausible outcome. I'd like to know how they got to that conclusion. Apart from that, the way he committed suicide actually wasn't dramatic: "The will was a short document stating that they had chosen death over capitulation, and that they were to be cremated [..]" [1] which is how it happened. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_will_and_testament_of_Adolf_Hitler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_will_and_testament_of_Ado...

tyingq 7y ago

The CIA putting implants into dog's brains to remotely control them was pretty creepy. https://www.newsweek.com/cia-mkultra-documents-files-remote-control-dogs-1250519 https://www.newsweek.com/cia-mkultra-documents-files-remote-...

rdtsc 7y ago
> "Such a system depends for its effectiveness on two properties of electrical stimulation delivered to certain deep lying structures of the dog brain: the well-known reward effect, and a tendency for such stimulation to initiate and maintain locomotion in a direction which is accompanied by the continued delivery of stimulation. > "Behavioral control was limited to distances of 100 to 200 yards, at most," they write in the letter > The letter writer characterizes the work with remote-controlling dogs as a success, describing "a demonstrated procedure for controlling the free-field behaviors of an unrestrained dog." That is pretty creepy. That is 1960s, and assuming CIA hasn't evolved a moral compass since, I imagine they might not have completely given up on the idea and it's interesting to think what it might look like today with all nano and wireless technology.
- lostgame 7y ago
  >> I imagine they might not have completely given up on the idea I also imagine if they would, they wouldn't exactly want that to be public knowledge. It's important to remember the military is years ahead of the rest of us, tech-wise. I can't imagine, really, the amount of crazy shit we're not supposed to see.
  - pluto9 7y ago
    Military tech is not ahead of civilian tech except for a handful of things that are either useless (stealth aircraft) or illegal (weapons systems) for civilians. And even in those cases, most of the constituent parts of those systems are extremely obsolete by civilian standards. The idea that the military has a vast arsenal of high tech gadgets and sci-fi weapons is a myth created by Hollywood.

landonxjames 7y ago

The Afghanistan Papers[0] were published a few weeks ago and didn't get nearly as much traction as I hoped they would. A stunning documentation of the incompetence of America's strategy in the Middle East over the past two decades. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/...

Pinckney 7y ago
Maybe this is off topic, but am I the only one uncomfortable with the Post seeking names of interviewees? > The reports also omitted the names of more than 90 percent of the people who were interviewed for the project. While a few officials agreed to speak on the record to SIGAR, the agency said it promised anonymity to everyone else it interviewed to avoid controversy over politically sensitive matters. > ... > The Post has asked a federal judge to force SIGAR to disclose the names of everyone else interviewed, arguing that the public has a right to know which officials criticized the war and asserted that the government had misled the American people. The Post also argued the officials were not whistleblowers or informants, because they were not interviewed as part of an investigation. One of the key problems identified by this report is that military and government officials didn't want to hear bad news. People on the ground felt like they had to paint an overly rosy picture. The SIGAR report seems like an attempt to address that by enabling them to speak anonymously, but the Post doesn't seem concerned that publicizing identities may hamstring such internal government investigations in the future.
remarkEon 7y ago
This was a frankly heartbreaking read. It feels like everyone missed it too.
- bsanr2 7y ago
  Well, not everyone. There were protests throughout the length of the war. A lot of people looked at the history of US intervention, of foreign intervention in Afghanistan, and at the motivations of the people calling the shots, and said, from Day 1, "This is not going to work out." Aaron McGruder famously had their number, and reached out daily to Americans whose newspapers hadn't canceled publication of his strip (https://www.gocomics.com/boondocks/2016/12/13 https://www.gocomics.com/boondocks/2016/12/13). They were right, most Americans were wrong, and I don't know if we'll ever fully reckon with that fact. On that note, I hope people are listening to Sarah Kendzior's work these days.

zrth 7y ago

Probably the "China Cables". The manual used to run the Xinjiang concentration camps. Leaked just a few month ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Cables Wiki: The China Cables are a small cache of secret Chinese government documents contained in a telegram, 4 bulletins and one court document from 2017. The cables were leaked by exiled Uighurs to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and published on November 24, 2019. The telegram details the first known operations manual for running the 1,300 to 1,400 mass internment camps of Muslim Uighurs in Xinjiang, which China denied until 2018 and since calls re-education camps.

corporate_shi11 7y ago
1,300 to 1,400! The scale of this is sufficient for true cultural genocide.
- zrth 7y ago
  Its not 1300 detainees its 1,300 to 1,400 mass internment camps! There are only about 12 Million Uyghurs to stat with. Thats 1 Camp for every ~ 10K Uyghurs! According to wiki there are 1 million – 3 million detainees.
  - corporate_shi11 7y ago
    And we sit idly by and do nothing. Yet companies and famous people have the gall to publicly criticize in the most damning terms the United States while meekly saying not a word against the almighty CCP.
    - blaser-waffle 7y ago
      Such is the allure of cheap goods and large consumer bases.
  - philwelch 7y ago
    Meanwhile the ones who aren’t detained are held in check by the threat of detention. Uighur women whose husbands are detained are forced to accept CCP men into their homes and share their beds with them.

throw123452343 7y ago

Not a 'declassification', but an insane investigative documentary. Cold Case Hammarskjöld https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9352780/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9352780/ It talks about how CIA/MI5 killed UN Secretary General in the 60s, but uncovers/interviews people involved with 'SAIMR' a secretive institution rumored to be under the UK, which was using HIV as a means for achieving white-supremacy in apartheid South Africa by maliciously infecting the black population. The reviews often dismiss this as 'satirical fiction', but quite frankly I don't buy that. It's just insane how little we know about the evil forces that the state wrests... and even the though of an organized racial genocide so many years after WWII is just insane.

mathiasrw 7y ago

The OPCW leak about how evidence of a chemical attack in Syria was fabricated. Maybe the most creepy part is the media blackout.

bubba1236 7y ago
go join bashar

alexfromapex 7y ago

Project 1794 basically confirming the government tried to build UFOs. Also, dark side of the moon stuff: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/jul/16/cia-moon-fouo/ https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/jul/16/cia-moon-...

bookAlot 7y ago

The Mueller Report was all about rape in airplanes and rape in the White House and how they use women in shitty jobs (mostlly camwhore types) to conduct field exercise training on men (to grant these women a man they can be sure is trained to know when to spot a possible candidate (for more stockholme derived mind wiped women), to do with drug dealing and local robberies being their method of "teaching" these men how to be in their place for White House friend and party people to rule the United States as just a "fair" class. Like when you got extras on the set in Hollywood making it all more, and sometimes too, glamorous and basically establishing a wiggle room for their lower requirements and then after that for their LOWERED requirements as they are that and need to remit the work and hold themselves as the whole section there (CLERK). Like that but for the White House. Started after Citizen Four, almost certain it was the voice over girl. Then it's also about the discussions that happen between what those are set to do and what happens to those using whatever means they have for discussing what the infrastrcture of such a large scale mechanism might be, so that they can sell the protection in it and offer a security force made up of their side hoes to the local province and require that province to keep those girls paid by the means they have outlined within that fairer class, which they must reach by infrastructure. Almost 100 percent side hoe crush cam whore girl, and they are the dom in that little redress and cycle. That report is why Trump made that anti-hate/no bigotry law, so they can't just pile up things taking their access to infrastructure, and that way they can just be asked not to work then or they risk the man that hired them losing their job, and he drops his crush and she's left a leak and we can supply the infrastructure fake women that we don't tell them never existed, and that let's trump focus on the office and not their "extras" (my side handles the extras). It also had bits about how there is a way to move through the court system in case the next administration catches on but then it like muffles out and requires them to just know. As if through the infrastructure, or least by failing and turning in all the women, instead of having them work and then remove themselves from work, to actually detail how to arrest these women and make it all legal and none of it a war. It's a pretty vicarious effort, whoever wrote it (stolen from Korean warfare documents) is actually probably dead by now or in prison for the rest of their lives. The scene reminds of that Twister book from American Pie. Like they were being suicide agents out of a korean marriage, but to their work, because she "married" her job instead of being married to a man and all that. Crazy stuff. So if you hear 5g whining you read something, side hoe cam whore from a retail job near you, and she is the only one willing to work this long, and they say shit under their breath to mean they are working, like a psy op, to introduce the length of the process they have in mind (like the timing of the thing... timing in here... ..NOT), all out, all in, receding, mother, etc to hide that they are not doing a real job. Just boinking the local swingers (like how Hollywood is not LA and the burbs and valley are not LA either, but those two are also not Hollywood), humping the owner (who is otherwise just a goober with a fat wife), humping anyone that pays for their mocha two times and up front, and making sure they can keep the resounding effect of anything good (or anyone they're asked to watch because it threatens the small choice of pond they have as the owners, or they want to get to try and bone someone's girl and they'll gang stalk until she changes her mind) from being able to actually take root in town for the class of "fair" people to be what roots in and then what the government as the white house, usually just cops and what is left of old parks and recs dudes doing security guard jobs, and security guards too (like the security guard's out of time threat in out of time, where denzel was chief of police) doing their part in it to "root" for anyone willing to use that infrastructure to clarify their side in the battle between what are the gangs in town. That last part is how I knew it was Korean. She had to be in prison for us to see, or jail, but there were people in LA, out of Culver City helping them redress the new administration with an old effort that was basically them being read their crimes back at them, which we are now commited to redressing to civil outcry with a lot of consequences tied to the persons using this infrastructure without the training required to actually learn and use it. And all of it, because there was a new phone put out, that was me and my people and our work, doing the work of preparing to learn how they do things, instead of making a transparent gif, you make sure they don't actually have one to do real work with them, then if they do they're on one of those GUBMENT LISTS. Kinda like that. Mueller Report.

jdkdnfndnfjd 7y ago

My vote goes to the leaked Coca-Cola emails. In particular, one email features a graph that has regions labeled “monitor,” “resist,” “fight” and various threats plotted over them. The disturbing thing is that things like “advertising to children,” “sugar tax,” “recycling mandates,” were all on this graph. It’s crazy to see that coke actually tracks these things and, according to the graph, is taking action against them. Everyone knows that coke doesn’t want certain reforms so it shouldn’t be a surprise but it’s crazy to see how open they are about it internally. How embarrassing.