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I'm a child of the 80s. I remember StarFox and the F-117 stealth plane being the neatest stuff ever. The old lambo countache with the faceted shape that was a
by Pxtl 7y ago
I'm a child of the 80s. I remember StarFox and the F-117 stealth plane being the neatest stuff ever. The old lambo countache with the faceted shape that was almost starwars-y and was the coolest thing on wheels.
I'm nostalgic about those things.
So this polygonal look is targeting my demo.
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That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle I've ever seen.
- gameswithgo 7y agoagree but also i love it.
- DarkWiiPlayer 7y agoIt looks like they were mimicing a stealth bomber or something.
- rjdagost 7y agoI've been waiting for years for something uglier than the Aztek. We have a new champion.
- cpfohl 7y agoAn upvote just wasn't enough. I'm still laughing.
- Fricken 7y agoThe tent attachment really drives the point home: https://i.redd.it/0x2qva4ge6041.jpg https://i.redd.it/0x2qva4ge6041.jpg
- rjdagost 7y agoThat's right, the Aztek had a built-in pop-up tent for tailgating. Good memory!
- jason_slack 7y agoI owned an Aztek and it was actually one of my more favorite cars because I could sleep in it if needed. I also really loved the Honda Element. I spend many a night at a beach and was very comfortable.
- jjtheblunt 7y agoI feel same about my (purchased used from 1st owner) 1982 SAAB 900 turbo, which was versatile as could be, and a great car to drive.
- hef19898 7y agoDamn great car! I hope you still have it!
- jjtheblunt 7y agoSadly, totalled it in May 1990 avoiding an animal that ran out in front of me on a two lane country road with gravel, going a bit too fast. avoided the animal, thankfully, and wanted a new 900 turbo since, but they were only made a few more years.
- hef19898 7y agoDamn pitty, but as long as you weren't hurt who really cares about a car? They are getting rare, looked them up the other day. But then I realized one 82 car is the max I might be allowed!
- cattlemansgold 7y agoI believe that title has since been taken by the Nissan Juke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Juke#/media/File:2017_Nissan_Juke_Visia_1.6_Front.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Juke#/media/File:2017_N...
- blaser-waffle 7y ago"In Europe, it is Nissan's second best-selling car behind the Qashqai. U.S. sales of the Juke are slowing in 2015, but the crossover sold 38,000 units in 2013 and 2014, and about 36,000 copies in 2011 and 2012.[28]"
- Terretta 7y agoThat looks like they were ‘inspired’ by the love it or hate it Citroen DS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroën_DS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroën_DS
- bewilderbeast 7y agohttp://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/79280/citroen-ds-4x4 http://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/79280/citroen-ds-4x4
- ryandrake 7y agoYou know what I'm tired of? Every 4-door sedan on the road looking like the same boring bar of soap on wheels. It's gotten to the point where all major car brands are indistinguishable from each other besides small details like the grill and headlights. Nobody has any imagination anymore. You guys laughing at "ugly" cars are part of the problem, and the reason why car manufacturers won't take any risks anymore.
- themagician 7y agoThat's the understated truth. All you do today is add a small detail like a full width light bar in the back and that's enough to distinguish the vehicle as unique or new or whatever. I think it's one of the reasons I like cars like the Kia Soul so much. They look… fun.
- Pxtl 7y agoIt actually has less to do with buyers and more to do with European pedestrian collision standards. Basically, modern cars are shaped to make sure that if they hit a pedestrian they'll safely roll onto the hood and off.
- rusk 7y ago> That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle If the Porsche Cayenne is anything to go by it will do well
- andrew_ 7y agoSo true it's painful.
- gkfasdfasdf 7y agoI feel the same about the Honda Accord. Why are cars getting uglier?
- pdxandi 7y agoI think part of the problem is that cars are getting bigger and roomier, and loaded with more features and safety equipment. I feel like, in general, larger vehicles are less attractive, and when you design bigger trunks, larger engine bays, thicker doors with higher walls, longer bodies for cabin space, and so on, cars just start looking less sleek. Completely generalizing and spitballing here, though.
- erik_seaberg 7y ago“911 has nice lines, I guess, but I really wanted something that looks more like a Fiat.”
- swalsh 7y agoI think I like the direction of the polygonal look. That's super cool, but this design looks kind of janky.
- account73466 7y agoNo, it is not ugly at all.
- Fricken 7y agoI'm going to borrow a term from architecture. It's brutal. It's a brutalist truck.
- barry-cotter 7y agoBrutalism is ugly. There are no beautiful brutalist buildings though there are plenty of interesting ones. It’s like the joke about how everyone in central Paris wants to work in the Tour Montparnasse because then you can’t see the Tour Montparnasse.
- pbhjpbhj 7y agoSorry, no. Sounds like you just don't personally find any brutalist forms beautiful.
- madaxe_again 7y agoNot true. Their starkness and utilitarianism is beautiful, in the eye of the right beholder - and I am one such beholder. I think brutalist architecture is beautiful as it’s bold in its intent, honest in its functional form (it has thingness), and speaks of dreams of the future. I look at a well-executed brutalist structure and get a shiver down my spine - it’s not the thing itself, but what it represents. Brutalism has a deep beauty, that ramifies intricately as you examine it further, in the thought and process that went into this triumph of function. Much of what we describe as beauty is no more than skin deep - a veneer of curves and shine, under which lurks incredible ugliness in both function and intent. Perhaps we are confusing pretty and beautiful.
- teucris 7y ago> I look at a well-executed brutalist structure and get a shiver down my spine Well, yes, well-executed things tend to imbue some value or ideal. The vast majority of humans are exposed to extremely poor brutalism that is simply oppressive.
- whatshisface 7y agoTesla doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to sell a truck to everybody, and people that love something are willing to pay more than people who only mildly like something, so it makes sense that they would design a highly polarizing truck that a few people loved but everybody else hated. It's reminiscent of the economic model of fursuit manufacturers.
- nolok 7y agoAre you really going with the "they made it ugly on purpose to avoid selling too many of them" defense? Come on just because this is tesla doesn't mean you need to be realistic. It's a multiplia, someone had a brain fart and we end up with a fugly. It happens.
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- m3kw9 7y agoIs ugly because it’s a popular opinion and everybody needs to call it the “ugliest vehicle ever” to make a social splash
- erikpukinskis 7y agoThis is probably the most accurate statement in this whole thread.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoNot that it isn't fugly but I think they purposely do not want it to look like any other pickup because their target market includes a lot of people who don't like the image pickups often project. A well compensated white collar professional will get judged hard for driving a pickup in some social circles and I think this styling is to help get around that.
- ethbro 7y ago> A well compensated white collar professional will get judged hard for driving a pickup in some social circles Is this a fact in (I'm assuming) NorCal? I'm in one of the parts of the country where everyone drives pickups, so it kind of boggles my mind. Does no one tow or haul things there?
- bsenftner 7y agoLooks like an urban weapon for the imminent Mad Mad world Musk needs to finally mass produce his flame throwers.
- necovek 7y agoYou mean Mad Muks?
- foobarian 7y ago> That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle I've ever seen. I agree! But at the same time I want one right now :-)
- abawany 7y agoJust $100 to pre-order it :) .
- okareaman 7y agoThe Hummer was hideous as well, but it sold like pancakes for a time
- pault 7y agoThe Hummer was also based on a US military vehicle from the gulf war, which gives it a lot of cachet with people who want a powerful (or want to project an image of power) vehicle. I don't doubt a lot of people will buy one of these things, but I don't see it coming anywhere close to the popularity of the hummer.
- buboard 7y ago... unless the army starts buying them
- ip26 7y agoI don't know, I think those are exactly the people he's going after with the brutalist look, high tow ratings, nearly 2 ton payload, hardened steel exterior, so on & so forth. He didn't talk about how it was bullet resistant to appease the Model S crowd.
- mbushey 7y agoThe retail Hummer was basically a kit car using a Tahoe/Suburban frame.
- pault 7y agoYes, and people bought it anyway because it was a "Hummer". :)
- scrumbledober 7y agoI think the hummer is a really good comparison here. The ground clearance and low center of gravity of the cybertruck will most likely give it legendary off road capabilities. I can't wait to see some footage of one at moab or something.
- Fricken 7y agoIt most resembles Centauri's car from The Last Starfighter: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/7033/products/Centauri_Starcar.jpg?v=1501614916 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1015/7033/products/Centaur...
- m3kw9 7y agoGo outside more if you want to see ugly cars
- khafra 7y agoThe Vaporwave aesthetic goes beyond mere 80's nostalgia into a sort of fetishism. Normally, targeting fetishists is a bit niche; but Tesla has hit on a lot of success targeting market segments that everyone else thought were tiny niches.
- abledon 7y agoI think the truck was built w/ spaceX in mind [1]. You can probably manufacture that thing quite easily from basic sheet metal, when you have limited machinery and labour on another planet. [1] https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pi...
- JulianMorrison 7y agoThe low polygon count actually makes sense if you are machining it on Mars...
- cozzyd 7y agoAlso helps with FPS in the next Halo.
- cr0sh 7y ago> You can probably manufacture that thing quite easily from basic sheet metal, when you have limited machinery and labour on another planet. Not if it's made of stainless steel - stuff is hard to cut and hard to weld (though might be easier in a non-oxygen rich environment like Mars). For ease of manufacture and maintainability, plus a lot of other "pluses" - I actually like this truck: http://oxgvt.com/ http://oxgvt.com/ Too bad it's unlikely it will be available for purchase in first world countries, if it ever gets to that phase.
- eej71 7y agoMade me think of a long forgotten 70's movie - Damnation Alley.
- sambull 7y agoWeirdly reminds be of the lambos I was in love with as a kid
- pault 7y agoGo back and look at the lines and proportions of the countach[0] and look again at the cybertruck. It reminds me of a lambo in the same way that the phantom menace reminds me of a new hope. [0] https://rmsothebys-cache.azureedge.net/a/a/2/9/4/f/aa294f0f2c096eadb7db2db1c97da88c21f41a3b.jpg https://rmsothebys-cache.azureedge.net/a/a/2/9/4/f/aa294f0f2...
- Phillips126 7y agoThat was basically my initial reaction... looks like low poly game art. Not interested.
- buboard 7y agomaybe they plan to texture it with high tech holographic textures though
- metastew 7y agoSomeone on Reddit made a good point. They might be copying Sonic the movie's approach to marketing. Release a ugly version now, and then later on, release an improved version.
- bchociej 7y agoYeah I feel like they are almost certainly putting this design out to create some buzz. I can't picture them releasing this hideous thing as-is.
- delecti 7y agoThere are too many things wrong with that theory to be plausible. The same is true here.
- hoorayimhelping 7y agoTrying to explain simple bad decision making with some kind of grand marketing strategy that involves incredible amounts of wasted work and huge amounts of coordination and the silence of hundreds of people is the most reddit thing ever.
- EpicEng 7y agoUsing a marketing conspiracy theory with about 10,000 holes in it to explain an ugly design is not what I would consider a "good point".
- Pxtl 7y agoPeople made the same conspiracy theory about New Coke. Coke's response: "Some cynics will say that we planned the whole thing. The truth is we're not that dumb and we're not that smart."
- beefield 7y ago> That is the goddamned ugliest vehicle I've ever seen. Let me try to beat that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Multipla#/media/File:Fiat_Multipla_front_20080825.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Multipla#/media/File:Fiat...
- IndrekR 7y agoI was discussing this the other day with an automotive designer. Yes Fiat Multipla is ugly, but imagine the courage Roberto Giolito (the designer of Multipla) had when he proposed this to the management of FCA! Almost nobody in modern automotive industry dares to match this outside of the concept cars.
- pluma 7y agoI think the Fiat Multipla is distinct in that it is unlovably ugly. I can get behind the ugliness of vehicles like the Cybertruck because it just looks absurd, but the Fiat is just grotesque.
- winternett 7y agoIt looks like you can drive it into a lake and then it turns into a submarine. I bet he's gonna unlock that feature a few months after people bought it, and why the windows are "unbreakable"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBqf6bYZak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBqf6bYZak
- jacurtis 7y agoEven better. Elon says[1] that a pressurized version will be available for deployment on Mars (not joking). [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696
- Brakenshire 7y agoMusk has actually said outright he was inspired by that film.
- flurdy 7y agoI think people are not as aware of this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696 "Tesla Cybertruck (pressurized edition) will be official truck of Mars" They have designed it to drive on Mars.
- Kye 7y agoIt will probably look better in the context of the Martian landscape, set in the foreground with the first colony in the background. On Earth, it's ugly.
- AndrewBissell 7y agoIf there's one thing I want in a truck it's the ability to drive on a planet which I will never actually visit.
- adwi 7y agoIs that any less logical than owning a vehicle than can drive 2-3X over any legal speed limit?
- Jamwinner 7y agoOne you can actually do, so yeah.
- theplague42 7y agoThat's for fuel efficiency and acceleration. You wouldn't want to constantly redline your engine.
- dharmab 7y agoYou can take any car to a racetrack and drive as fast as you like for a couple of hundred dollars per event. You can even get professional instruction. https://www.scca.com/pages/scca-track-events https://www.scca.com/pages/scca-track-events
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- markkat 7y agoI am of the same demo. I agree it is ugly, but ugly in a good way.
- mda 7y agoI generally appreciate non curvy designs in many forms. But I agree with you on this, my immediate thought was, "God, this thing is absolutely hideous" Such a missed opportunity.
- DannyB2 7y agoThe shape appears optimized for driving under semi trailers which are perpendicular to the roadway. Nice touch since it includes autopilot.
- MisterOctober 7y agoyepyepyep! I think literally every one of my friends and me had that poster of the white Countach from Scholastic
- dehrmann 7y agoI though the lesson Tesla learned/taught was that people wanted an electric car that doesn't look like an electric car. Truck buyers' sensibilities are even more conservative than luxury sedan buyers'--aluminum frame? I dunno about that.
- FredDollen 7y agoI do not feel this will appeal to people who buy a truck for frequent towing. 300 mile range unloaded = 150 mile range under load. With a camper in tow, you'll be stopping every 100-120 miles to recharge. How exactly will you recharge with a 30 foot trailer attached? This will appeal to businesses that need to broadcast their eco sensibilities to us.
- toddmorey 7y agoNot sure, but I’d be willing to bet the majority of towing is short range. Bringing equipment to a job site or putting a boat in the lake.
- abawany 7y agoI disagree respectfully. I had sat through and watched the Ford Mach-E reveal but this Tesla has practically made me forget that altogether.
- mensetmanusman 7y ago‘85 here, love the look! Definitely reminds me of the StarFox era :)
- jv22222 7y agoIf you were putting together a mood board for the Cybertruck. These cars might have been on it... 1970 Lancia Bertone Stratos http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nZhhAcyh9Qg/VQxxoTBLCeI/AAAAAAACeRI/Ogt38eSSmW0/s900/ewrgqewfqwfqwfqwfqwf.jpg http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nZhhAcyh9Qg/VQxxoTBLCeI/AA... 1979 Insomnia, Dome Zero P2 http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g6cc2DJRJIM/VQsxHX-ND0I/AAAAAAACeLw/ZginwFQaKS4/s900/erthjwergwegewgewgew.jpg http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g6cc2DJRJIM/VQsxHX-ND0I/AA... Maserati Boomerang http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bkKWE1sC_dU/VQsxP3_Uk0I/AAAAAAACeMw/b2HsbOZYim8/s900/rethjwegwegwegwegewgwegwegweg.jpg http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bkKWE1sC_dU/VQsxP3_Uk0I/AA... 1976 Alfa Romeo Navajo http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-11k8tJ20DtQ/VQsxIvr7Y1I/AAAAAAACeL4/UBWF1dqjNRw/s900/ergwqefqwfqwfqwfqwf.jpg http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-11k8tJ20DtQ/VQsxIvr7Y1I/AA... 1980 Citroën Karin https://cdn0.wideopenroads.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ftd-roads-80sconcepts.jpg https://cdn0.wideopenroads.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ft...
- dgzl 7y agoI'm a child of the 90s and the Cybertruck makes me hard as diamonds. Not even kidding, I think it's wicked cool.
- sunstone 7y agoHmmm 200k pre-orders and climbing. The haters may have some humble pie to eat.