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Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years
- Kaibeezy 7y agoVegan +388% Vegetarian +136% Fish 'n' chips +1% Vegans are 1.16% of the UK population
- sniuff 7y agoYou don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.
- jbob2000 7y agoIf I eat an apple, am I eating vegan food? If you call anything that isn't carnivore food as "vegan" food, then you're labelling like 90% of our food as "vegan". That's obviously ridiculous, so I think it's more accurate to call food "vegan" when it's being eaten by someone who is respecting vegan principles. What I mean to say is that I think "vegan food" is defined by the eater, not the makeup of the food. Edit: I would like to understand what I could have changed about my comment if you felt it did not contribute to the discussion.
- tobr 7y agoIs it Greek food only if it’s eaten by a Greek? Is an apple Greek food if there are apples in Greece?
- TotempaaltJ 7y agoYeah, I'd say an apple is vegan food. A lot of snacks and things _are_ vegan (or vegetarian). The interesting thing is vegan/vegetarian _full meals_, which I'd guess is a much lower percentage.
- mumblemumble 7y ago> If I eat an apple, am I eating vegan food? Well, apples are plants, and the adjective "vegan", when applied to foods, basically just means "plants and fungi", so, by definition, yes. Trivially yes. But an apple isn't a very interesting case. What's more interesting is what TFA is talking about: an increase in orders of entire meals that contain no animal products from restaurants. It wasn't that long ago that it wasn't even possible to do such a thing at the vast majority of restaurants in Western countries. It may not indicate an increase in the number of people who eat mostly or only vegan food, but it certainly indicates changing attitudes about what qualifies as a proper meal.
- NeedMoreTea 7y agoI think you have it backwards. Vegan food is meant to show not only is it free of meat, but that it's also free of animal ingredients that might not be shown on the menu, such as butter. An apple would be suitable for a vegan, so could be labelled (needlessly) as such. A vegan is one who eats food according to those standards. If a takeaway menu picks out those options that are entirely meat free, and also free of animal fats etc. They'll label that as vegan regardless of knowing or declining if a non-vegan orders it. Maybe they just like that dish. I quite often do order vegan dishes, Indian takeaways especially, despite remaining a meat eater overall.
- chosenbreed37 7y agoSlightly tangential but I noticed that the one of the cleaning fluids in the bathroom said "Suitable for vegans"...:-)
- astura 7y agoMany (but not all) dietary vegans are also holistic vegans, meaning they choose cleaning products, clothing, beauty products without animal ingredients and aren't tested on animals.
- zrobotics 7y agoSame thing as 'vegan' imitation leather products: a vegan doesn't intend on eating their wallet or belt, but they won't buy genuine leather goods for ethical reasons. Thus, a vegan belt. For the same reason, a vegan would avoid animal fat based soaps. Still humorous though, reminds me of the bleach drinking memes.
- jl6 7y agoI genuinely expect Apple to sell an upcoming iPhone as vegan.
- zrobotics 7y agoConsidering all the different chemicals used in its manufacture, it is entirely possible that an iPhone isn't vegan. Depending on how strict you are, plastic isn't vegan. The crude oil used could be considered an animal byproduct, as it is possibly derived from prehistoric animals ;)
- emmp 7y agoIt sure is. I wouldn't call it a satisfying meal though. It's not particularly meaningful to anyone to say that an apple on a restaurant menu is vegan (if such a restaurant even exists)
- tekkk 7y agoSo if a carnivore orders vegan food at restaurant, it stops being vegan? Well does that make sense? In my opinion if restaurant offers only apples as the "vegan option" i think it's correct to call it vegan food. But since i guess vegan is not well defined property of food, as it's more commonly used to describe the people practising veganism, i'd draw the line in "food served or prepared that adheres vegan principles".
- mytailorisrich 7y agoTo me, 'vegan food' is a dish that would normally contain animal products and has been contrived to remove them.
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- erikpukinskis 7y agoIt’s interesting, under your definition whether something is vegan depends on who is making it. If your family just happens to make a 4-bean salad without meat, then for you that’s omnivorous. If I make the exact same salad, but my family growing up typically would have put bacon in it, then that same salad becomes “vegan food” because for me it’s a contrivance. It’s a relativistic definition of what’s vegan and what’s not.
- mytailorisrich 7y ago"Vegan" refers to people, not food. Food is only "suitable for vegans". There are many, many traditional dishes that do not contain meat or even any animal products. I see no reason to suddenly label them "vegetarian" or "vegan". But when people work hard to make a burger without any animal products then it does make some sense to call the result "vegan food" in that it was made specifically to suit vegan people.
- okmokmz 7y ago> "Vegan" refers to people, not food. Food is only "suitable for vegans". Partially correct. Vegan, the noun, refers to a person who does not eat or use animal products. Vegan, the adjective, means using or containing no animal products. >There are many, many traditional dishes that do not contain meat or even any animal products. I see no reason to suddenly label them "vegetarian" or "vegan". They are vegan by definition >But when people work hard to make a burger without any animal products then it does make some sense to call the result "vegan food" in that it was made specifically to suit vegan people. Perhaps that is your modern interpretation of what "vegan" means, but it is not accurate. Hummus, for example, is a vegan dish regardless of having never contained animal products, and regardless of whether or not the person eating it is vegan.
- okmokmz 7y ago>If I eat an apple, am I eating vegan food? Unless that apple is an animal byproduct, yes, technically it is vegan (as are all other fruits and vegetables). Realistically though, no one calls single pieces of fruits and vegetables vegan, it's more commonly used to refer to dishes >I think it's more accurate to call food "vegan" when it's being eaten by someone who is respecting vegan principles. So if I order and eat Thai food it is American food because I'm American, but if I was Thai it would be Thai food? >What I mean to say is that I think "vegan food" is defined by the eater, not the makeup of the food. By definition, it is defined by the makeup of the food
- jobigoud 7y ago> What I mean to say is that I think "vegan food" is defined by the eater, not the makeup of the food. A lot of the debate under your comment is stemming from the difference between vegan people and vegan food. In French we have three words. Vegatarien, Vegetalien, Vegan. Vegetalien means vegan but it's only used in the context of what food the person eats. While vegan was more about the lifestyle and not wearing leather/fur, etc. Although recently the term vegan is used for food more and more, it's simpler.
- tobr 7y agoBingo. I think this is a virtuous cycle. Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Vegan food is also a safe bet for the larger group of vegetarians. That means more places want to offer some good vegan options, which in turn makes more people try vegan food, and makes it easier to be a vegan. I’m not a vegan nor a vegetarian, but I often find myself ordering vegan dishes because they seem more healthy for myself and the environment. There are so many types of food these days where vegan is not a compromise.
- coldtea 7y ago>Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Or you can just ostracize them. Saves lots of emotional turmoil in the long run, as the vegan friend telling everybody about their dietary choices quickly takes its toll on adults...
- ptah 7y agothe toll of eating meat on environment is far greater than your concerns over your feelings. choose the lesser evil
- coldtea 7y agoEating meat is better for the environment in the long run. If human population drops to zero due to climate change (which meat consumption contributes to), then the environment will be left alone and do great on its own! It wont even take more than 1-2 millennia for recovery, which is nothing in geological terms! Compared to that eating vegan is just a feel-good half-measure.
- ptah 7y agoI have only seen evidence to the contrary. can you provide anything to back up what you are saying
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- motohagiography 7y ago"The most intolerant wins," dynamic may explain much of it. The availability of vegan food may have grown because it is a complimentary good which lets groups that include vegans eat there. Previously, groups that included vegans either ended up in vegan restaurants, or didn't eat together at all. Other purity urges could seem to have the same property.
- colanderman 7y agoYour comment is correct, except that veganism is not a "purity urge", despite popular media. It probably is for some, but for most it is an ethical, health (as in, need to avoid cholesterol/dairy/etc.), or environmental concern. There's usually an external motivator.
- ptah 7y agoit is health and environmental to me. in practical terms it is no different from "purity"
- michaelbrooks 7y agoI became mostly vegan (also known as flexitarian) because I want to reduce my meat consumption due to climate change. I now cook vegan food as much as I can while eating meat every once in a while.
- mises 7y agoExcept there's a stubborn minority on the other end - people who want a meat offering. There are a good number of people who actually want to eat meat, and there are a few who don't want to go places without it. I feel like this will somewhat bound the growth of restaurants with only these options, though those with veggie alternatives can still grow. Not every one is okay with just rabbit food, though.
- tuukkah 7y ago> Except there's a stubborn minority on the other end - people who want a meat offering. That's a given, and vegans have an important role in the society to counterbalance it. > There are a good number of people who actually want to eat meat, and there are a few who don't want to go places without it. On the other hand, (I hope) the majority actually just wants to eat delicious dishes without big negative externalities. > Not every one is okay with just rabbit food, though. Here, I'm not sure whether you're referring to what rabbits eat (grass), what restaurants stuck in the past offer to vegans (what's left of meat menus and salads when you leave out animal products), or a prejudice toward any vegan food.
- Kaibeezy 7y agoTrue. I'll guess (can't access the original report) that it's something like "expressly designated vegan version of main course items". For example, this from the Guardian: ... the owner of I Am Doner, a pair of kebab shops in Leeds and Harrogate, said his vegan kebab routinely outsold chicken, halloumi and falafel. Made from seitan, a meat substitute derived from wheat gluten, the “voner” kebab sometimes outsells the lamb alternative too. That said, wouldn't falafel be vegan? Clearly, precision is evolving here.
- dfxm12 7y agoFalafel themselves might or might not be vegan (I've seen recipes that contain eggs, and some that don't), but it would almost certainly be served with a yogurt-based sauce.
- Mikeb85 7y agoCan't speak for every kebab shop but here it's typically served with hummus, tahini and sometimes an eggplant spread. Edit - also the traditional way to make falafel is vegan as it originated as a fasting food for Middle Eastern Christians (traditional fasting rules dictate no animal products).
- erikpukinskis 7y agoFalafel shouldn’t have any egg in it if made properly.
- Fogest 7y agoIt depends, many places I've been you can get a falafel based meal to be made vegan, but typically they will include sauces not vegan, thus they are vegetarian meals by default. Not hard to swap the sauce to make it vegan though.
- erikpukinskis 7y agoI don’t know about “typical”... the traditional sauce to put on falafel is tahini sauce which is vegan. Some Greek places put yogurt instead of tahini which is not vegan, but I wouldn’t call that typical. I would call it a “too common aberration” and “a reason not to eat Greek falafel”.
- 52-6F-62 7y agoSo are Fish'n Chips apparently
- yifanl 7y agoI mean, growth rate tells you nothing of the total percent of orders.
- Kaibeezy 7y agoRight. I looked for that info. Maybe I'll look again. Watch this space. OK, found the British Takeaway Campaign 2017 report, https://jeweb-11431-s3.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/application/files/2215/0045/3682/TAKEAWAY_ECONOMY_REPORT_2017.pdf https://jeweb-11431-s3.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/applicatio... - It's a pretty detailed and interesting report, but for everything in there it doesn't provide this data point. Overall, it does mention: Spending on takeaway grew to £9.9 billion in 2016, up more than a third (34%) since 2009 (£7.4 billion). Still looking for the rankings / market share... OK, here's that, from the Mirror of all places, but referencing a 2017 report by Paymentsense, which tracks payments. The top 10 takeaways: Chinese - 35 per cent Indian - 24 per cent Pizza - 13 per cent Fish and Chips - 7 per cent English - 4 per cent Italian - 4 per cent Burgers - 3 per cent Thai - 2 per cent Mexican - 1 per cent Turkish - 1 per cent
- phonypc 7y agoWhat is English takeaway? Savoury pies?
- Kaibeezy 7y agohttps://www.just-eat.co.uk/takeaway/nearme/english https://www.just-eat.co.uk/takeaway/nearme/english Shepherds Pie Bangers & Mash Fish & Chips Steak & Kidney Pie Roast Beef & Yorkshire Pudding Cornish Pasty F&C obvs popular enough to get its own category.
- 52-6F-62 7y agoIt was just a bit of a play on the comment.
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- strict9 7y agoAfter 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colleagues are eating less meat.
- janlaureys 7y agoI'm one of those semi-veg people. I tried it a few years ago as well and I agree it's a lot easier now than it was back then.
- Iv 7y agoFor me that's a mix of ethical and environmental concerns. I agree that there is a point in the belief that it is unethical to kill animals. That's not the most unethical thing that is happening in the world, there are a lot of things to argue about, but in general, I agree that in an ideal world, we should not do that. The environmental concerns, I only buy half-heartedly. I don't really believe that land-owners will transform their pastures or soy cultures into rain forest instead of another profitable exploitation, I'd rather have states force responsible production and norms. It is just not practical for me to go full-veg, where I live I would need to cook one hour a day for it, and I am a lousy cook, I have neither the inclination or the motivation for it. But I reduced my consumption more and more. It was surprising to see how my taste changed. I used to be a huge meat eater and now I find eating even a small steak a bit nauseating. I almost eat no beef anymore, little pork but mostly chicken and fish, and even these I eat little.
- everythingswan 7y agoWhat are the constraints based on where you live? I knew someone who grew up heavily on beef since she was from a small, rural country. Is it a similar reason? I'm interested in food insecurity and related things, which is why I ask.
- ultim8k 7y agoToo bad that vegan food is mostly carbs and tasteless stuff like tofu. There are so many tasty and healthy vegetables and great veggie recipes but you have to cook at home because you can't find them outside.
- bryanlarsen 7y agoAt a very superficial level to this omnivore, vegan food appears to be moving away from tofu and more towards Impossible Meat. And that's a step backwards from this omnivore's perspective. I like vegan burgers because they contain lots of tasty ingredients like black beans, corn & cauliflower. I don't want pseudo-meat because I still eat meat occasionally. Hydrolized Pea Protein is not "real food" IMO. As for tofu: marinate in maple syrup and tamari, then roast. And I first had that at a restaurant.
- takee 7y agoCouldn't agree more. Inspite of being a hardcore meat-eater, I often enjoy authentic vegan food because of the actual plant based ingredients such as beans, beatroot and corn. The flavors come together quite nicely in an old school veggie bean patty. The trend with impossible meats disappoints me.
- theplague42 7y agoYou've only had bad tofu, then.
- 54mf 7y agoIf your tofu is tasteless, you're doing it wrong. One of the major perks of tofu is that it absorbs flavor really well.
- GrumpyNl 7y agoTofu by itself is tasteless.
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- mytailorisrich 7y agoVegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.
- criddell 7y agoThere's no reason for them to be absolute, is there? If I eat one non-vegan meal every 20 meals, then I think it's reasonable to say my diet is 95% vegan.
- mytailorisrich 7y ago> There's no reason for them to be absolute, is there? Well, yes there is since that's the very definition of "vegan" and "vegetarian". If I drink only at weekends, am I a semi-teetotaller? That's ridiculous.
- criddell 7y agoDefinitions of social things are never that rigid. Was my grandmother a teetotaler? The only alcohol she ever consumed for the last 70 years of her life was a tiny bit of wine during communion every few weeks.
- mytailorisrich 7y agoThese definitions are rigid. Anyone can do something they are not supposed to once in a while but 'vegan' and 'vegetarian' do mean that you refuse to eat animal products or meat, not that you don't eat much of them.
- criddell 7y ago> Anyone can do something they are not supposed to What do you mean not supposed to? My grandmother wasn't supposed to drink? Her being a teetotaler was just the result of her daily choices. That's what eating vegan meals is for me. Do you have to explicitly choose to be a vegan? If prisoners were fed 100% vegan diets and had no options for outside foods, would they be vegans? I guess I'm wondering if intent matters just as much as action, or is one or the other good enough?
- glitchc 7y agoI love these doubling and quadrupling statistical figures that are absolutely meaningless when placed outside the context of the percentage of the whole. "We quadrupled subscriptions last night" is true when going from 400 million to 1.6 billion and also true when going from 1 to 4.
- huhtenberg 7y agoAs an old Soviet joke went - This year our glorious industry delivered an astounding 5000% increase in production of supercomputers. * As compared to the 1913 numbers.
- Mikeb85 7y agoAs interesting as this is, it's just the takeaway sector. As someone in the higher-end restaurant sector, I certainly haven't seen increased demand for vegan options. It also doesn't help that many vegans are very price sensitive, not to mention have a disproportionate amount of other dietary restrictions.
- lostgame 7y agoHuh. Opposite experience here in Toronto, where I've seen 5-10 new, very popular vegan restaurants in this city pop up over the course of 4 years or so. The statistics may present this to be takeaway only, but, for instance, the oddly named Hogtown Vegan has become one of the more popular and well-received places in the city. May I ask what city you're from? I'm curious as to whether this is a regional thing.
- Mikeb85 7y agoCalgary. We have a few vegetarian (lacto-ovo) places that are full-service, a few vegan spots that are fast casual, but that's it. A few vegetarian and vegan spots have closed in the last few years as well. Edit - more steakhouses have opened in the last year than veg restaurants.
- lostgame 7y agoAll the sense is made here. Calgary, being a fairly sizeable city, may be an exception, but a lot of our beef comes from Alberta. I'd say Alberta is mostly known for beef and oil. Heck, you guys have the Calgary Stampede - the last time I travelled out there I made sure to grab myself the nicest reasonably priced steak I could - Alberta's beef is known across this country. Confirms what I was thinking about it being regional. I imagine other states and provinces with similarly agriculture focused behaviours would see the same result.
- Mikeb85 7y agoOf course, we do still have a metro area of ~1.4 million with a large proportion of immigrants both from abroad and within Canada. We're quite cosmopolitan. We've had quite a few restaurants on all the relevant awards lists for restaurants. Beyond Burgers sell great, every A&W here was fairly full when they came out. It just hasn't really caught on at price-points higher than fast food. Vegetable forward restaurants are a thing, but I have it on good authority that they still sell a pretty large volume of meat and fish.
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- lostgame 7y agoI've also rapidly seen the number of popular vegan restaurants explode in the city of Toronto, where I live, over the past 3-4 years. One note a few people are making is that you don't have to be vegan to eat vegan. This is true, and purposeful - vegan food is generally of a relatively high quality - and a lot of what it offers is the direct contrast to most other North American-favoured food. Like they say Lucky Charms are a 'part of a balanced breakfast', followed by a picture of a table with orange juice, a banana, etc...so it is that, if I have a busy work day, and we order some greasy pizza in, I can go hit he Freshii on my way out and balance out the sausage, grease, and cheese that way. I think more and more people are simply realizing just how unhealthy our diet is, here in North America, and as these potions become more available, and awareness of them is increasing, I think all this indicates is expected are finally waking up from a sense of brainwashing that's gone on in advertising everywhere, getting us to honestly shove the worst things in our bodies over the past few decades. There are environmental concerns with Vegan food, particularly in transit of the more obscure and in demand things like Avacados - so I do get a giggle when people are all uppity about how ethical they're being - but obviously there are ethical and environmental concerns with the treatment of animals, as well. Overall, it's no surprise to see this data, I'd argue in-restaurant demand, at least in this city, has similarly exploded. It's good. It means we are collectively eating a little better, and that's something that affects both the mind and the body.
- dustinmr 7y agoI passed through Toronto twice last week. Had a fantastic meal here: http://www.nourishmoi.com/ http://www.nourishmoi.com/ And you’re right, I don’t regularly keep vegan. But I do like the option sometimes.
- roland35 7y agoI am not vegan myself, but I do appreciate the huge increase in vegan options now that I am lactose-intolerant! I do enjoy ordering a vegan option with grilled chicken or bacon added if I can.
- i_am_nomad 7y agoIf you don’t mind me asking, how did you become lactose intolerant? I don’t know much about that aspect of biology.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoYou don’t become lactose intolerant; you become lactose tolerant via genetic mutation. This is a mutation that originated in Northern Europe but not in east or South Asia.
- astura 7y agoOne does not "become lactose tolerant," humans are born lactose tolerant, after all their primary food for the first few months of life is milk. A lactose intolerant baby is very rare. Lactose intolerance happens with age in X% of the population. The ones who don't become lactose intolerance simply retain their lactase production that they've always have had.
- danans 7y agoThis study suggests that tolerance is around 18% in South Asia, and that it originated in the Middle-east, not Europe: https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2011/09/14/lactose-tolerance-in-the-indian-dairyland/ https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2011/09/14/lactose-toler...
- stevenwoo 7y agoA large percentage of people become lactose intolerant as they become adults, IIRC only a segment of people from all over the world (concentrated somewhat in Europe and parts of Africa) retain the ability to digest lactose into adulthood, east Asian here I personally started getting slight indigestion from milk but not ice cream or cheese in my 20's.
- sandworm101 7y agoHow much of this is changing eating pasterns, and how much of this is the re-labeling of foods? "Vegan" is no doubt now a sales point, but many vegan foods have been eaten for centuries without that label attached. Slapping the sticker on them now doesn't mean that anything has changed beyond how we do the count. I also question the "vegan" label itself. Exactly what type of vegan are they talking about? Veganism isn't as simple as whether a food is vegetarian. There is no single authority or rulebook to determine whether it is kosher or not. There are various levels and judgement calls to be made.
- mattl 7y agoGenerally vegan meats meat-fish-seafood-and-dairy-free when you see it on a generic packaging or restaurant. Kosher at least in the US usually comes with a symbol and you know the ones that are legit (Orthodox Union is the most common in the US, the (U) symbol Ⓤ)
- sandworm101 7y agoVegan can also mean food that doesn't involve the exploitation of animals. That version of veganism means no food that requires insect pollinators. A cutting-edge vegan discussion is whether lab-grown meant can be vegan. An animal need not have a brain to be an animal. And an animal grown in a vat is still an animal.
- dgellow 7y ago> An animal need not have a brain to be an animal. How does that work? If I grew a chicken breast in lab, without the rest of the chicken, that's not an animal, right?
- sandworm101 7y agoIs a human without a brain still a human? There are plenty of people in hospitals with zero brain function, some with virtually no brain matter, that still have full rights as humans. If a jellyfish not an animal because it doesn't have a brain? A worm? Many vegans choose not to draw lines between different types of animals.
- bobinaz 7y agoEating patterns are definitely changing. While nobody I know is going full vegan, plenty are incorporating more vegan food into their diets.
- mises 7y agoWoman Tries to Climb Mountain to Prove Vegans aren't Weak, Dies. https://time.com/4344556/mount-everest-death-climbing-vegan/ https://time.com/4344556/mount-everest-death-climbing-vegan/
- ravenstine 7y agoLots of people, vegan or not, die going up Mount Everest.
- helkafen 7y agoHave you seen Serena Williams? Vegan
- dontbenebby 7y agoCould part of this be the rise of non-American restaurants? If I'm eating say, thai I don't "order vegan" - but a tofu based curry may be vegan. Vegan food, done well, is pretty great. But there's a steep learning curve with the spices etc, so I tend to eat out for it.
- geddy 7y ago> Vegan food, done well, is pretty great. But there's a steep learning curve with the spices etc, so I tend to eat out for it Agreed - it took a good number of weeks of our weekly meal prep before I felt comfortable adding actual flavor to the dishes. It definitely is something you acquire quickly, though. Meat and dairy are good flavor-enhancers so becoming vegan overnight was rough from the flavor profile perspective. Luckily there are plenty of resources to help out and I got a handle of it in no time. You learn what to swap out and how to get the right texture with things like tempeh, tofu etc and all that.
- dontbenebby 7y agoIf you have any suggestions on cookbooks/resources, I really enjoy curries etc and they seem to be great for mealprep (very freezable). I can always add in some beef or chicken if I get nostalgic ;)
- ph4 7y agoI stopped eating meat at the start of this year after reading "Eating Animals" by Jonathan Saffran Foer. My primary concerns were ethical. I'm not necessarily morally opposed to eating meat, but I am opposed to the inhumane conditions of factory farming. I am shocked at how easy it was to stop. I always pictured some long and tormented inner battle, but the book made the necessity of the decision self-evident. I eat meat maybe once per month now, a 99% reduction in intake, with no significant physical or psychological struggle whatsoever.
- okmokmz 7y ago>I am shocked at how easy it was to stop. I always pictured some long and tormented inner battle, but the book made the necessity of the decision self-evident. I eat meat maybe once per month now, a 99% reduction in intake, with no significant physical or psychological struggle whatsoever. I found this to be the case too. It wasn't particularly challenging to stop eating meat, and if anything I felt physically and mentally better afterwards
- jl6 7y agoI recently adopted a vegan diet and have made good progress with weight loss. I attribute this to veganism providing me with a very simple rule that allows me to instantly reject a large number of the junk food options that cross my path, which I previously would have eaten thoughtlessly. I miss cheese on pizza, but have otherwise not found myself lacking in tasty and nutritious options
- bobharris 7y agoI'm going as veg as I can. Shooting for vegan. Enviro concerns. Rebellion. I feel I'm healthier barring intake of Iron. I find it less expensive as good meat is expensive. Meat imoho is hard to cook. I'm put off by slaughter and the whole idea. I feel it's one thing I can do to help the world (and prolly be a bit healthier). I have friends who have reduced too! thats cool. The idea of the amount of intake to output on a cow. Its high, there's an index for it. Prolly gonna try go vegan (everything) Screw big corps poisoning me with mass slaughter and cruelty products. Odd ingredients I have never heard of. Who is going to pay for my double bypass or kemo? Oh......me? Call me a PETA/Hippie, whatever. I care about the future of the planet and being low impact. It feels like the right way to go about it right now. The mass consumption in the states today is pretty off-putting // disturbing. Reduce/Recycle/Reuse. No, I do not need a new phone. This one works just fine.