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I didn't realize The Wayback Machine had so much YouTube content from the early days. Really interesting going back and seeing what was on the front page on som
by nyx_ 7y ago
I didn't realize The Wayback Machine had so much YouTube content from the early days. Really interesting going back and seeing what was on the front page on some random day in 2006.
Looking at what people were uploading and what people were watching leaves me feeling a bit wistful. It seems like it was a more authentic place before the money caught up with it.
- johnchristopher 7y agoI was thinking about that today. I was fiddling with mastodon and a VPS then started thinking about microblogging and youtube content evolutions over the years and came to the conclusion that people share stuff through messaging now and I like that. I ditched the mastodon idea.
- marssaxman 7y agoIt seems like it was a more authentic place before the money caught up with it. Isn't that the way it always goes? I wish there were some way of permanently locking Wall Street out of the picture so we could actually have some nice things.
- CM30 7y agoUnfortunately, it seems the only way to have a field where Wall Street/commercial entities aren't involved is to have one where it's illegal to make money off said field. For instance, game mods/fan works tend to be a lot like web development or content creation from the early days of the internet, since it's literally illegal to run a business that creates and sells them. One of the reasons I follow the progress of said scenes a lot, because they're some of the few communities I know of where wealth isn't really an advantage.
- chasontherobot 7y agoSo, a few really cool things but 95% weird porn?
- waterhouse 7y agoI'm mostly familiar with EV Nova and KOTOR mods, which are posted to websites that probably filter for obscenity. EV Nova doesn't really have pictures of people; but KOTOR definitely has plenty of appearance-focused mods (including one described as "More sexy underwear for females"), and on some other games I have heard of mods that fall into the "weird porn" category.
- simion314 7y agoI think your number is too big, home many nude mods can be for a game? If you mean some revealing armor/clothing then that is not porn not even "adult". There will always be a large number of lower effort mods, it is easy to retexture or cut parts of existing armors then building new ones from scratch. The main issue I see with some modding communities is the big egos of some people that leads to terms of use like "don't share this, this mod should not be shared on as different website" , it will make it kind of illegal then when the specified website will no longer exists to archive and move the mods or to create mod packs.
- CM30 7y agoNah, more like the other way around. But obviously it depends on what games you're interested in seeing mods and fan projects of. The vast majority of the Mario/Zelda/Sonic/Metroid/Mega Man fan game and game mod/hack scene is basically entirely new games built on the original series' engine. Some of the stuff you see there is crazy, arguably on par with many of the more well funded open source software found online. Like that project which adds online multiplayer to Super Mario 64, the mods which add MP3 music to SNES games, a Metroid mod which remade Metroid Fusion in Super Metroid with all the original content and an even smarter version of the SA-X hunting you down. Or perhaps Wiimmfi, which basically replaced all of Nintendo's online services for the DS and Wii, then significantly expanded on them with extra features and modes. It's kind of insane how technically advanced much of this stuff can be, given it's all made by hobbyists in their free time with no hope of ever getting paid.
- komali2 7y agoThat's the non-profit, free software world. It exists, gnu.org compiles a lot of free software if you're interested, or there's other organizations that compile stuff like free blueprints for farm equipment, free music, sprites, etc. It's out there, but a lot of people generally consider the free/libre stuff "lower quality," which is often a fair accusation.
- marssaxman 7y agoOh, yes! - I use free software almost exclusively. It may not always be as polished as the commercial competition, but it feels better to be part of a sharing community. I feel especially fortunate that my current job allows me to make a good living developing free software.
- a1369209993 7y ago> That's the non-profit, free software world. And then Red Hat[0] happened, and it all went to hell, like everything else Wall Street touches. 0: et many al, but they're the most visible culprits due to things like wayland and systemd.
- skybrian 7y agoBest case is you get something like Craigslist, but more likely they would have gone out of business by now (shut down for piracy) and we wouldn't have any nice things.
- ijidak 7y agoDon't make money. :) That will keep wall street permanently at bay.
- manderley 7y agoPretty sure not making money is what attracts the most investment money these days.
- menzoic 7y agoReddit
- dredmorbius 7y agoSci-Hub!
- spinach 7y agoSeems a bit ironic to say that on a site of a company that helps fund a lot of tech start-ups. Start-ups whose end goal seems to be getting ridiculously rich and doing an IPO.
- charliesome 7y agoThis feels a bit like the "if you don't like capitalism why do you use an iPhone?" argument. The reality is that Hacker News is a generally high quality technical forum and that's the reason a lot of people are here.
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago>This feels a bit like the "if you don't like capitalism why do you use an iPhone?" argument. // That's a pretty good question though?
- rv-de 7y agoI also would like to search for videos by date of upload for example. Is there a way to do that? The on-site search functionality on youtube is abysmal. Especially the auto-reset of the filters upon changing the search term is so incredibly annoying.
- d0mine 7y agoI remember reading somewhere that in the earlier days the most popular "authentic" videos were actually created by paid actors.
- marviel 7y agoYou might enjoy http://astronaut.io! http://astronaut.io!! It sources content from YouTube that is generally not from influencers using a few heuristics (low view count, uploaded in past week, generic title, etc) and displays it in an ever shifting stream.
- codeulike 7y agoThen you need to look at http://astronaut.io/ http://astronaut.io/ from the front page last week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20432772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20432772 Its youtube videos with zero or very few views.
- lkrubner 7y agoEverything on the Internet was much better before advertisers were willing to spend real money on the Internet. Once the advertisers began to take the Internet seriously, and companies committed to an advertising model, everything went to hell.
- echelon 7y agoIt was also better before the influencers, celebrities, and (frankly) less educated joined. There's too much content now, and it's mostly low value. Deep, rich content and communities have evaporated save for a few vestiges such as HN. Even this lacks the camaraderie of the forums and news groups of the past.
- elamje 7y agoGenuine question: what are some other communities on the internet that have a quality level similar to HN? I have really enjoyed this site and want to find one or two others.
- darkkindness 7y agohttps://lobste.rs/ https://lobste.rs/ is a very similar community to HN. The catch is that registration is invite-only. By the way, if a lobsters user is reading this, I would love an invite :)
- muppetman 7y agoEdit: I will not be replying to anymore requests. Sorry! (was: Provide me with a way to contact you and I will.)
- darkkindness 7y agooh my, sure! [email removed]
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- konschubert 7y agoTry this: http://astronaut.io/# http://astronaut.io/#
- eveningcoffee 7y agoFor general education about subculture takeover please refer to https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
- extreme_orang 7y agoThis might be interesting... "A compellingly written and highly original study of the practices of the early-adopter video blogging community. This essential study will change the ways in which we think about past, present and future online creative communities and digital platforms." http://networkcultures.org/blog/publication/tod-27-videoblogging-before-youtube/ http://networkcultures.org/blog/publication/tod-27-videoblog...
- SllX 7y ago> Really interesting going back and seeing what was on the front page on some random day in 2006. Surreal. I was on YouTube several times a day every day throughout 2006. YouTube used to actually be relatively static and unchanging, the top videos in the afternoon might have been roughly the same as in the morning. I’m not just recognizing individual videos, I’m recognizing entire pages, down to video placements in the sorting order, seeing videos I actually clicked on and watched, maybe even gave one of like 51 star ratings to. For some reason, it never occurred to me to look at YouTube in the Wayback Machine. On my phone right now, I can’t load any of the videos anyway for lack of a browser plug-in which around that time was basically Macromedia Flash 8 or something. Actually Macromedia might not have even been acquired by Adobe yet, or else the acquisition had just been recently announced. Either way it was Macromedia up until Adobe Flash 9. I don’t know if I’ll be able to play any of the videos on a laptop, but I bookmarked a few familiar looking pages to try later.
- chias 7y agoSurprisingly, the video tags in modern youtube. Pulled a random video from archive, Converse Hands Man: https://web.archive.org/web/20061208100700/http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=2W-14qlnQWI https://web.archive.org/web/20061208100700/http://www.youtub... Grab the 'v' parameter and paste it into a modern youtube video URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W-14qlnQWI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W-14qlnQWI and watch Converse Hands Man in modern youtube glory.