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Global, U.S. Growth in Smartphone Growth Starts to Decline
- arthurcolle 8y agoI've always been surprised that cellular tablets didn't experience more marketshare compared to smartphones. No one has exclusively a cellular tablet that I know of, but frankly I'd probably ditch my smartphone for a cellular tablet that I carry around at all times. For me, communication mostly happens by email/text and phone calls have almost entirely been replaced by videocalling, so in the long-run I see myself moving to just a internet-enabled tablet of some kind. I guess the growing ubiquity of WiFi makes it less of an issue for most people
- evan_ 8y agoThe difficulty is you can’t very well use a cellular tablet with one hand while you’re in line at the coffee shop.
- bergie 8y agoDepends on the size of the tablet. A full-sized iPad? Probably no. But I used a Nexus 7 as my primary mobile device for a couple of years without issue. Shame good-quality cellular small tablets are not really a thing any longer. Though, I suppose the new big phones are close to similar form factor. Just not quite as nice to read with...
- sys_64738 8y agoThis is the whole point of larger phones as most people need a phone to be reached. It makes the tablet market redundant if you can carry the tablet around - why would you want to?
- api 8y agoTablets are in an uncanny valley. Phones fit in your pocket and are good for communication, brief transactional interaction with services, and casual stuff. When I want more than that I want a real computer, which means I pull out a laptop. Laptops are only a little bigger than tablets. Tablets have the crippled by design OS of a phone but none of the portability. There is a market for tablets but I see it as somewhat niche.
- freehunter 8y agoPersonally for me, phablets are an uncanny valley. I had an iPhone Plus for a while and it never clicked. It was too big to use with one hand, but the screen size didn't warrant using two hands like an iPad does. I switched to a smaller phone and just use a tablet when I need a big screen. Real work gets done on a laptop, but there's a lot of space between "phone" and "real work". I do wish I could get an iPad Pro with a mouse and the ability to run VSCode though...
- dredmorbius 8y agoThere's nothing but app ecosystem standing between Tablet aand useful flyweight mobile computer. Getting Termux on Android was a complete game-changer, and took the device from hated useless toy to ... well, still-hated, but occasionally useful toy. But clearly the limitation is in apps and OS, not form-factor.
- api 8y agoThat's what I said -- "dripped by design" OS. That being said I don't see it as something that's going to change. The duopoly behind phones and tablets wants these devices locked down. In Apple's case it's so they can take 30% of every transaction. In Google's case it's so the device can double as a surveillance platform.
- dredmorbius 8y agoI'm watching Purism and Ubuntu with interest.
- elboru 8y agoI really liked the idea of a tablet in 2010/2012 when I didn’t have a big screen in my pocket, then new phones with big screens and great resolution arrived and I just started declining the use of my tablet. And that was not because I prefer to watch a smaller screen but because I almost never carry a backpack with me just to carry a tablet, if manufacturers finally figure out how to break the usability wall between laptops and tablets I might change my mind again (Surface Pro has been tempting).
- freehunter 8y agoI would use an iPad Mini sized phone, but iPads can't be used as cell phones even if they have LTE. Carriers won't activate them as phones and you can't give them a number that rings to the dialer, since the dialer doesn't exist on an iPad. It would work for me since I never take a call on my phone, I just pop in my Airpods and never actually pick the phone up. Oh well.
- scarface74 8y agoGoogle Voice.
- deathhand 8y agoThey fixed that(somewhat): https://www.att.com/devicehowto/tutorial.html#!/stepbystep/id/stepbystep_KM1280837?make=Apple&model=iPadPros&gsi=GE_OKiA https://www.att.com/devicehowto/tutorial.html#!/stepbystep/i...
- mimming 8y agoI made the switch to a cellular tablet (9.7" iPad Pro) a couple years ago and it's been great. It reduces the urge to whip out my mobile device at every moment of mild boredom, and collaborative apps like ported board games shine. The one downside is that I look pretty silly when taking photos.
- crispyporkbites 8y ago> The one downside is that I look pretty silly when taking photos. I am glad you acknowledge that. Although it is a little strange that we feel this way, what's actually silly about using a tablet to take photos?
- calgoo 8y agoI would prefer a mobile hotspot with 24+ hours battery life, and a couple of different tablets: 1 small 4.5 / 5" and 1 that's around 8" / 10". That way I would just use the device i feel for using be it a smaller one or a bigger one. Basically make us all portable hotspots that future smart clothing and devices can connect to.
- marci 8y agoYou'll soon(ish, eventually) have one device for both screen sizes https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=219&v=Sp6RVQUQ1G4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=219&v=Sp6RVQUQ1G...
- scarface74 8y agoI can’t find anything more recent, but the iPad Air got 24 hours of battery life as a hotspot five years ago.... I doubt the 2018 9.7” iPad is worse.
- sonnyblarney 8y agoYou kind of need a smartphone to talk, to move around with, small enough to keep in your pocket. You need 'something with a keyboard' to do regular stuff. Nobody needs a tablet.
- ghaff 8y agoI do know people (mostly writers of one sort or another) who mostly travel with just a tablet these days though it’s never clicked for me. I usually travel with a tablet and small Chromebook. The Chrimebook is a flip model but it’s just not good enough as a tablet for me.
- sonnyblarney 8y agoIf you have a detachable keyboard, a high powered tablet is borderline laptop. It's a decent travel companion, but with macboooks so light these days ... again the tablet is just an unnessary thing. It's an optimization, not a necessity.
- zaphoyd 8y agoI've been using a 9.7 inch cellular iPad as my primary mobile device for 6 years or so. It works very well for my use case but I do understand why more people don't do it. In my arrangement, the tablet replaces a phone, ebook, paper notes, and a laptop. I primarily use the machine for messaging/email, maps, reading (books, websites), writing notes, and using terminals. I use desktop computers with many displays (and clouds/racks of servers) for anything "real work" like. A laptop doesn't cut it. The bigger screen is significantly better than a phone (even a big one) for most of those things. Especially multi-tasking use cases where I want slack+a terminal visible at once. The bigger keyboard is far more comfortable for taking notes and using terminals. I make/receive very few phone calls, and the ones I do use a headset and a Voip app. If you use the phone a lot for holding up to your head and talking to people a tablet works poorly. Most of my camera use is for things like scanning documents, qr codes, etc where the size/awkwardness is less an issue. I have a single purpose camera that I take on photo heavy trips like vacations. These are both trade offs that make sense to me but I don't think make sense for a lot of people. I have a case with a hand strap that makes it safe and easy to use the tablet while standing/walking around, something that is hard to do with a laptop. I don't own or use a car so I tend to carry a messenger bag with me everywhere for general storage so adding the tablet to that is straight forward. It is easy to take the tablet in and out of the bag while standing if I need to look something up. Because I primarily use public transit I am free to actually use the screen of my device while in transit. Again, the more common use case where your car stores your stuff and you can't use your screen while in transit likely pushes the common case towards phone sized devices. I pay $17.50 per month for Verizon cellular data with no contracts and no funny business. LTE data plans for tablets are priced assuming you have a smartphone already. Especially with today's $1000+ phones, a tablet + LTE plan can be drastically cheaper than a smartphone. Finally, I like the friction of usage balance. It is much easier to grab the tablet (especially while standing/walking) than to deal with a laptop. It is a bit harder than pulling a phone out of your pocket. This leads me to avoid wasting time on my mobile device when with other people, in meetings, standing in line, etc, but makes it much easier to deploy computing power when it is necessary (standing in the data center and need to run one terminal command quickly). The one thing I would change would be to add a watch that would help with turn by turn walking directions, basic message checking, and NFC payments. I look forward to the day that Apple Watch will pair with a tablet (or work with no tethered device).
- konschubert 8y agoI think there is a strong temptation for Apple and other manufacturers to push an iOS update that cripples their older models. Long-term it would destroy their brand but short term they could potentially see an uptick.
- bootlooped 8y agoWith Android I think the case is not that they'll push updates that cripple older models; they just don't push updates at all.
- Fargren 8y agoSo what? I have a Huawei Mate S, from 2016. Quite good at the time, it's still totally serviceable. The lack of a replaceable battery is the only reason I'm starting to consider a replacement. I know, I'm not getting security updates anymore, but the average consumer doesn't care about that. I don't feel I'm losing much in terms of functionality from having an older version of Android.
- kitotik 8y agoAnd Apple seems unlikely to do this given their growth is focused on services now. They need as many people on their devices as possible in order to sell them services. iOS 12 has a pretty long list of supported devices, and objectively improved performance on the specifically the oldest ones on that list.
- cronix 8y agoAt least with Android though you can install different, current, updated roms which are often better without the bloat that usually comes from the carrier, and a lot of them still get OTA updates. https://www.xda-developers.com/ https://www.xda-developers.com/
- scarface74 8y agoAnd that helps a few geeks with a few phones. That is not a long term solution for most people. Even worse, with most Android phones, you’re already starting out with slower processors than the iPhone of the same year.
- moonka 8y agoSince I got my first HTC EVO, I've eagerly upgraded phones every two years, and frequently every one. Now I'm 2 years into my pixel one, and don't see a phone worth upgrading too. Between rising prices and the way it feels each recent phone has removed features I'm in no rush.
- hahla 8y agoThis makes me wonder. I bought an iPhone X outright and didn’t mind the original cost. But I will not be upgrading to the iPhone XS. They were able to get me to cross the $1,000 phone barrier but it almost has a negative effect because I would traditionally not blink twice upgrading every year at the previous price point.
- bad_good_guy 8y agoJesus you're bad with money
- LateRuin 8y agoMaybe hes just not a poor loser like you.
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- untog 8y agoWell, will you upgrade next year? If so, not a dramatic difference between $1000 every two years and $500 every one year. After I saw the announcement for the XS I immediately bought a used iPhone SE. $160 for a 64GB model. Even if it only lasts me a year (it won't get iOS 13, which I may or may not care about) the value for money is astronomical compared to Apple's current offerings.
- sys_64738 8y agoNew fad. Lots of sales. Market saturation. People realizing they don't need nor want the latest and greatest so don't. Market declines. There's nothing new here we've not seen many times before.
- Simulacra 8y agoI just purchased an iPhone 8 and I plan to keep this for about 4 to 5 years. My iPhone 6 Plus lasted quite well for 3 1/2 years, if you take care of it I see no reason to upgrade. Maybe the market will become completely saturated and stagnant, and Apple return to focusing on making computers.
- bjoli 8y agoI made a commitment 2013 to only buy repairable phones. 5 years later my fairphone finally died (tbh, I had been wanting that for quite some time) and Motorola's vow to provide official parts for its phones made me go with them. The reason to buy the latest and greatest has never been smaller.
- dev_dull 8y agoTo me the risk is not hardware repairability, it’s lack of timely security updates and long term support of them. Outside of iPhones are there any phones on the market that get 5+ years of fast security updates?
- opencl 8y agoThe only way you are going to get 5+ years of fast security updates outside of iPhones is unofficial Android ROMs such as LineageOS. My 6 year old Nexus 4 still gets updates that way.
- thaumasiotes 8y agoOn the other hand, my release-year Nexus 4 started experiencing battery swelling several years ago, and I had to get rid of it.
- hnuser1234 8y agoYou can replace the battery on them with a screwdriver, hot air, and some bravery to slightly bend the original battery as you rip it out. Then you can remove the adhesive and not have to worry about doing that again, until your next "non-replaceable battery" phone. Considering any functional smartphone should be able to net you at least $80-100, and the battery can be found for $5-6, not to mention the waste electronics/recycling aspect, it seems like a smart move if you have the time and will. I did this with a Nexus 5, and broke a few clips on the back, but just enough to make the back easily removable but also stays on firmly during normal use. Now it's a regular replaceable battery phone.
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- ramshanker 8y agoMy First lasted 4 years. [2G, VGA Camera] 2nd Phone lasted 5 years. [3G, GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, Radio, 5MP Camera] 3rd Phone 2 Years and counting. [4G, GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, Camera + Front Camera] It's a simple pattern. Every new phone buy should be a major Technology Upgrade, not just specification upgrade. So Minimum Requirement for my next phone will be [5G]. Hopefully within next 2 years. :)
- sonnyblarney 8y agoI'm offended by these now $1K iPhone models, I'm getting off that train. I want a tiny phone to do sms and emails. The only thing I might miss is maps ... but that could even be done on a smaller phone if Google removed all that crap from the screen as we try to use their maps ...
- hn_throwaway_99 8y agoI'm hoping https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/light-phone-2#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/light-phone-2#/ is successful.
- sonnyblarney 8y agoFunny that's exactly what I was thinking. We can hope, but we'll see. Hardware is hard.
- craftyguy 8y ago$300 for a dumbed down phone running Android that does not appear to be easily repairable seems like a bit too much.
- foobaw 8y agoI doubt this will make it. hardware certifications are absurdly difficult and costly.
- ben_jones 8y agoLiving in a major city the killer phone to me would be the dumbest possible incarnation of: Voice, SMS, and Rideshare. Emails can wait until I'm sitting down on my computer, so can banking, but those three utilities are essential to modern life and safety. If you live in a major city and go out drinking, you need your ride home late at night.
- ghaff 8y agoHave a feature phone and call a cab? I guess I don’t use Uber/Lyft much but then I don’t live in a city though I travel to them frequently.
- ksec 8y agoThis is going to causes ripple effect in the industry. Leading Node is getting even more expensive, it used to have an expanding base of Smartphone using leading node for the past 5 years, sharing the cost and making them affordable. Now it is shared by a smaller number, which means we might see slow down on new node introduction. Luckily TSMC already has everything set for up to 5nm in 2020. After that, not only have we reach the end of Single Core IPC improvement, we might also have reached the end of MultiCore Count increase.
- ashraymalhotra 8y agoLoved this presentation from Ben Evans at the a16z conference. Talks about the same thing in more detail. https://www.ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2018/11/16/the-end-of-the-beginning https://www.ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2018/11/16/the-end-o...
- patient_zero 8y agoI may be somewhat of an outlier, but I have been purchasing used phones since my first smart phone (a Galaxy S2). That was a manufacturer refurb from my provider. Since then I've branched out in to ebay and amazon purchased phones, and excepting one V10 that arrived in the mail with a boot-loop issue (resolved easily enough) I've had zero problems with them and saved hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
- limeblack 8y agoIf you don't mind replacing batteries yourself or know someone sure. My experience is the batteries especially from eBay have major issues.
- patient_zero 8y agoah, yes. I also never buy phones that dont have an easily swappable battery or an expansion slot. Since I started looking up drop rating videos my phones have lasted a lot longer too :) I've not personally had an issue with buying one but of course its as much luck as anything.
- iammiles 8y agoI don't think there's much reason to upgrade these days. Years ago I would instantly notice the crisper screen resolution, the nicer photos, and overall snappiness of a new phone. Granted my current phone (Pixel 2) is only a year old, but I can't imagine what I would upgrade to or for what reason.
- askafriend 8y agoFor me, one reason: Photography. That's it. "The best camera is always the one you have with you." I have far more expensive dedicated cameras but my iPhone is the one that I use the most frequently because it's _always_ with me. That matters and I'll always upgrade if the camera is significantly better in any way (especially in low-light, which is the area where there's a ton of room for improvement). But I'm speaking as a person who values and has a dedicated interest in photography. My mom really doesn't care as much because phone cameras have gotten really really good for most people's use-case.
- JayXon 8y agoIf you care about camera so much, especially in low-light, you probably want to upgrade to a Pixel, the night sight feature is like magic.
- askafriend 8y agoI personally prefer to stay in Apple's ecosystem, but features like that are certainly interesting and speak to the type of camera improvements I was talking about in my comment.
- acct1771 8y agoGuess "always" was the wrong word, then.
- askafriend 8y agoI have an iMac, iPad, MacBook Pro, Apple Watch, AirPods...and so on. My friends and family also have Apple devices in their homes. My workplace is 100% Mac. There's no chance I'm getting anything but an iPhone, for those and a number of other reasons. With that being said, there are significant improvements year over year in the camera hardware used across the industry regardless of manufacturer. There's also really innovative stuff going on in camera software and computational photography from both Google and Apple among others (shoutout to Halide Camera). I'm not going to swap out my entire phone operating system and integrated workflow for a single software-feature like Night Sight (even though I think it's very cool). I was just making a statement about how smartphone cameras (as a category) will continue to get more impressive through a combination of software and hardware. The step function improvements in the camera experience alone are enough for me to consider upgrading even if the rest of the experience is only marginally better. The point being that even as someone with more expensive cameras and lenses, the camera on a phone is still extraordinarily important to people like me because it's the camera we end up having with us all the time. I get that you really want to turn this into an Apple vs Android thing, but I'm going to play that game with you.
- forkLding 8y agoTo summarize this very long article: Essentially smartphones are entering the laptop stages of ubiquity and market saturation and making people wonder whats next. Smartphones are also losing their wow factor and just becoming another "commodity". People are also finding less reason to replace their smartphones and replace cycles are getting longer. The only double-digit growth is in the lower priced segments in developing nations and whats stopping Apple and other giants is their reluctance to dilute their premium branding.
- whatshisface 8y ago>smartphones are entering the laptop stages of ubiquity That might actually be an understatement, there are many poor people with phones but no computer. Laptops, as hopeless of a market as they seem like they are, at least have some hope of moving down-market to the new ground Google is after with the Chromebook.
- forkLding 8y agoThats true, haven't been paying enough attention to laptop market
- JDiculous 8y agoUnfortunately there are no modern smartphones with a removable battery and the Super AMOLED display screen (the screen on the Samsung Galaxy and iPhone). Batteries are always the bottleneck here. My Samsung Galaxy S6 is at a point where the battery lasts maybe an hour. But because the battery can't be replaced I need to buy a new phone. I'd get a LG V20 (most recent phone with removable battery, over 2 years old) if not for the fact that I'm so used to that sharp AMOLED display screen that I can't go back to an LCD screen. I guess I'll be reluctantly buying the Samsung Galaxy S9+, but I hope the battery isn't useless in 2-3 years forcing me to buy a new phone again like now.
- bluedino 8y agoYou can’t just get the battery replaced at a phone store?
- mrhappyunhappy 8y agoAt least apple offers battery replacement, doesn't Samsung?
- izacus 8y agoPretty much every single phone out there can get battery replaced (might be it's even demanded by law in some regions) - you just need to take it to any repair shop.
- chmod775 8y agoThis is precisely why I "upgraded" my S2 to an S5, even though the S6 was already out and the S7 was already on the horizon. I'm running LinageOS on it and it works flawlessly still, even though I'm now on my third battery. I will never buy a >$500 device (be it smartphone or laptop) with a non-removable battery or easy path to replace it. There's really no reason to buy any of the most "modern" phones unless you fancy getting ripped off big time.
- herpderperator 8y agoThat isn't true at all. Many phones have OLED-type screens. The Pixel 3 XL has an OLED screen from Samsung. https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/17/ifixits-pixel-3-xl-teardown-reveals-samsung-made-screen/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/17/ifixits-pixel-3-xl-... The Nexus 6P from 2015 has an actual AMOLED screen from Samsung (https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3mzrl9/hi_im_hiroshi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjpf2e/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3mzrl9/hi_im_hiroshi_...), as did the Nexus 6 before that.
- mrhappyunhappy 8y agoI'm on an iPhone 6 plus, have had it for a while and don't see any reason to switch except downgrading to a smaller screen. I've grown tires of this behemoth of a screen and miss my tiny Google phon I could manhandle with ease.
- tanilama 8y agoI am not paying 1000 for an iPhone. Period. Well start looking for budget but good enough Chinese phones as replacement, after all 1k can buy me 2 of those
- wongarsu 8y agoI think most people would define <= $100 as "budget phone". $500 is a mid-to-high-end android.
- ec109685 8y agoI wonder how much Apple was helped by the battery debacle in the iPhone 6s. I am sure a lot of folks upgraded because their phone was horrendously slow. Now that Apple has fixed that problem and seemed to make iOS 12 faster than 11, upgrade incentives have gone down.
- Nasrudith 8y agoReally when it comes to smart phones the things I would want are things not offered by most. - Stop being phobic about thickness already and make it durable. Nearly everyone has a case on it anyway which makes it farcical. - Boost battery life. - Easily accessible SD card, include service doors for a change, stop dropping features like headphone jacks. I admit to being niche but I think at this point improvements in the peripheral aspects are what could move people in addition to anything and even if they got every little niche people wanted it probably wouldn't keep the market from saturating without adding major new functionality.
- yroc92 8y agoAt least on Apple's part, their phones have been getting thicker since the iPhone 6 and I'd say battery life is improving with each generation, especially when you consider the growth in activity occuring on the device since that generation.
- torgian 8y agoThough durability is worse; everything is glass now.
- Cursuviam 8y agoI also prefer having a thicker phone in exchange for durability and battery life, so I current have the Galaxy S8 Active, which does very well on those fronts. Sadly, it appears it didn't sell particularly well, thus no S9 Active.
- Nasrudith 8y agoI have one as well and that is a shame. It seemed a bit pricier but I also tend to but one or two generations back just because it is good enough and cheaper. Perhaps it didn't scale well so the costs were higher so it didn't sell as well.
- narrator 8y agoI think you want a Galaxy Note 4. Removable battery, sim and sd card. Built to last, unlike newer Samsung phones.
- delinka 8y agoIncorrect title. Also, Growth in Growth? Are we in derivative territory here, or is this a grammatical error?
- olivier_martel 8y agoShould be sales.
- mark_l_watson 8y agoJust a comment on Apple: they might be positioning the Apple Watch as their next ‘big product.’ I bought one for myself, then one for several family members and we all love them. In an age when too many people stare at their phone in social situations, having a watch that handle calls, emails, text messaging, and simple apps - but, is not something you engage with for long periods of time. I usually don;t use my phone on weekends anymore. The Apple Watch keeps me connected but in a way that doesn’t pull at my attention.
- eugeniub 8y agoMany parts of this article are so disingenuous. There's a smartphone decline coming, but it's not here yet, and this article is a premature declaration that can't substantiate itself. It starts by talking about a "smartphone decline", then discreetly transitions to a smartphone sales decline — of only -0.3%. And this decline can be explained by, as the article puts it: "there’s no doubt that the replacement cycle for phones is elongating". > If you bought a new iPhone 3G in 2008, and then a new iPhone 4 in 2010, you were buying markedly different machines. [...] If you bought an iPhone 6 in 2014 and then an iPhone 7 in 2016, that expected improvement was much harder to mark (except, perhaps for that fact the the iPhone 7 didn’t have a 3.5mm headphone jack). Yeah? What if you shifted the years 2014/2016 to 2015/2017. Suddenly you're comparing an iPhone 6s to an iPhone X. Arguably an even bigger leap than iPhone 3G to iPhone 4.
- drannex 8y agoRepair technician and mobile researcher, not really 2015 and 2017 internal components are amazingly similar. Even the screen technology, taptic engine, Audio IC, Touch IC, and more are relatively the same — just a migration of location on the board. The 6S screen design is even more similar to the X than I had originally thought when I started to tear into them. Now the switch from 3G to 4? That was some brand new engineering techniques and internal chip sets.
- eugeniub 8y agoI think you're mentioning the similarities but omitting all of the differences — radically different design, waterproofing, face ID, wireless charging, fast charging, etc.
- bunnycorn 8y ago> The 6S screen design is even more similar to the X than I had originally thought when I started to tear into them. What? The 6s has a LCD and the X (2017) has a flexible OLED. Couldn't be more different.
- nabla9 8y agoNorvig's Law: Any technology that surpasses 50% penetration will never double again (in any number of months). http://norvig.com/norvigs-law.html http://norvig.com/norvigs-law.html
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- bitrrrate 8y agoIf you bought a new iPhone 3G in 2008, and then a new iPhone 4 in 2010, you were buying markedly different machines... This is true. The first iPhone was a great product but 3G was a huge upgrade. Retina screens, LTE, the increase in screen sizes, OTA updates all well worth a yearly upgrade. Now the 6-8 are basically the same device with tweaks. Even the two versions of iPhone X don't make a significant case to upgrade unless you just upgrade because there’s a new phone released.
- jandrese 8y agoI'm still using an iPhone 6 and honestly the iPhone Xs is a downgrade in a few respects. The lack of a headphone jack is a bummer in my bluetooth lacking vehicle. The lack of support for 32 bit apps means I'd have to leave a bunch of my favourites behind. The price point is still discouraging. All in all it leads to a pretty low motivation to upgrade.