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If you’re unsure whether to quit your job or break up, you probably should
- yontherubicon 8y agoIs it just me or is this terrible advice?
- hn_throwaway_99 8y agoIt's just you.
- dev_dull 8y agoThis advice really resonates with the mellenial in me. The adult in me — however — finds it pretty selfish.
- icebraining 8y agoHow is it selfish?
- afarrell 8y agoAren't all Millennials over 18 at this point?
- spacehome 8y ago18-year-olds have legal majority, but talk to one for an hour and you'll see most are not 'adult'. 500 years ago a 16 year old could be a man, contributing as a full fledged adult to his community. Today it's 25 if you're lucky.
- SolaceQuantum 8y agoFrom what I understand this isn’t actually true to much extent; 16 was still considered fairly young. Too young to run a household or be the head of the house, often times, although if it happens it would be a forced of circumstance. When Henry of the six wives married a 17 year old (by some estimates) people were disgusted/concerned about it.
- spacehome 8y agoDepends on where.
- bobbyadamson 8y agoYou're implying that being selfish is inherently bad. Of course it's selfish. You're doing something for you. It's only a problem if it unfairly hurts someone else. How is that the case here?
- caseysoftware 8y agoIt boils down to "If things aren't going well, change something." I'd wager it comes down to taking control of your life. Even if life is "harder" by most measures after the change, knowing that you have the ability to make a change without the world ending is powerful. A new job, new year, new relationship, etc, etc is a chance to reset and do things "better" this time around. Even if this particular change doesn't work out for the better, it changes your mindset.
- robjan 8y agoIt's modern day capitalism. Never be satisfied with what you have and always look for the next best thing. Pretty sure it's one of the reasons that so many people are unhappy these days.
- usrusr 8y agoCheck-list for the other side of the equation: would I be happy with never settling down at all, always on the move? What conditions would it take for me to stay put? If the first answer is no and you can't give a reasonable answer to the second, you might want to reconsider change until you can.
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago> Is it just me or is this terrible advice? Yes, it's glorified impulsiveness. Quitting is one solution. But it isn't the only one. The study itself is better reading. It finds "people may be excessively cautious when facing life-changing choices" while conceding "that the research subjects who chose to participate in the study are far from representative...as there may be sample selection in which coin tossers complete the surveys, and responses might not be truthful" [1]. Furthermore, in allowing participants to choose the question they wanted to answer with a coin flip, it selected for questions to which thought had already been devoted. The conclusion is best interpreted as "if you've thought through a big decision and remain unsure, there is preliminary evidence that you might want to risk going for it." Not that the moment a trace of dissatisfaction crosses your mind, you should give up. [1] https://www.nber.org/papers/w22487.pdf https://www.nber.org/papers/w22487.pdf
- regularfry 8y agoNot when you consider that in the context of this article, the set of people flipping coins had already had all the rationalisation opportunities and were still left with no clear way to make the decision, whatever that decision was in their circumstance. Once you've removed all the deterministic structure, all you're left with is playing the odds.
- cirgue 8y agoWhy? The idea is that if you’re seriously unsure, you’re probably trying to convince yourself that where you are is ok out of risk aversion, not pragmatism. People tend to be massively biased against change because of uncertainty. That’s not good if you want to have the best outcome possible.
- stewbrew 8y ago"2 to 6 months" It would be interesting to know how this turns out on the long run. I also think that in real life, these decisions are not always about you alone.
- jschwartzi 8y agoHow so? Ultimately the only thing you are owed by anyone else in the world is the right to walk away. I don't owe my SO a relationship and she doesn't owe me one. We're in it because we want to be. It's the same thing at work, where my boss pays me because he wants me to work for him, and I want to work for him because he pays me and he's a good boss. He doesn't owe me a job and I don't owe him work beyond what he's already paid me for. So I don't see how these decisions are about anyone but me.
- piotrkaminski 8y agoI'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you don't have (young) kids.
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- jschwartzi 8y agoYou can walk away from a spouse without walking away from your kids. That's pretty much what my parents did. My dad and my mom were divorced and basically never spoke to each other or interacted. But they were both involved in our lives in different ways.
- XorNot 8y agoConversely divorce-rates tend to spike once the youngest child graduates high-school (certainly did for my year group). There is a fair bit of "staying together for the kids" which happens it seems.
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- ianai 8y ago.48 higher on the happiness scale 0-10 probably isn’t worth it.
- thomasfedb 8y agoIsn't worth what? Effort?
- mjevans 8y agoBold quote from about 50% down the page: "The causal effect of quitting a job is estimated to be a gain of 5.2 happiness points out of 10, and breaking up as a gain of 2.7 out of 10!" I believe that's on a scale of 1 to 10 (or 0 to 10?) someone rated going from a 3 to an 8 (on average) based on quitting a job they were /considering/ quitting. I will note that they probably did have other opportunities lined up; quitting a job and becoming unemployed without benefits strikes me as a most probably unhappy circumstance. Similarly the relation change ended up netting 2-3 "points" of difference for a relationship. So 5 became 7 or 8. Edit (not for formatting): I didn't check the details on the statistics, so I don't know how LIKELY a positive outcome vs negative outcome was from those changes. It's possible that there's a split where a subset was VERY happy with the change and some were ambivalent/unhappy as a result.
- rthille 8y agoPretty sure I should do both.
- ivanech 8y agoif you're serious, you might want to delete this. i think it's relatively easy to tie this account to others
- PhasmaFelis 8y agoIf either their employer or their SO are sleuthing their private accounts looking for dirt, that only makes it clearer that they need to leave.
- marketgod 8y agoMaybe just apply for jobs instead of quitting first? I never recommend anyone quit their job without having a backup in place. There are multiple reasons for this in my opinion, even if you have enough in savings to last you 5-years. The feedback I get is, well I can't focus on the job search while working. 1) If you have a job the HR person deems you as more attractive as someone wants you. Similar to a relationship, when you are dating, all the other girls want you. 2) If you have a job, you can throw around a funny number, ask for more lieu time, vacation time, and basically control your interview process. 3) If you have a job while applying to a new one your resume doesn't show employment gaps which you have to explain in the future.
- modells 8y agoBetter have a solid alternative in-place before throwing away social or income sheet capital. Up and quitting (hopefully with notice) without a plan isn't smart or professional.
- dawhizkid 8y agoIt’s actually pretty normal nowadays. No one is suggesting you have to burn bridges if you quit.
- hn_throwaway_99 8y agoI think the takeaway, though, is that being too cautious is dangerous, too, because there is so much upside to leaving a job you don't like. Lesson I've certainly learned: No need to burn bridges, but waiting for the "perfect time" to leave a tech job (e.g. all projects wrapped up, other job fully lined up, etc.) is a futile exercise. Just be considerate with 2 weeks notice, say you want to explore other opportunities or whatever, and move on.
- Black-Plaid 8y ago> Up and quitting (hopefully with notice) Why is it considered bad form to quit without notice, but if a company lets you go without notice, it's "just business"?
- hn_throwaway_99 8y agoAt least in the tech world, if a company just let you go with no severance I think it would rightfully be branded a very shitty thing to do.
- lovich 8y agoWelcome to 95% of the tech world. I don't know anyone whose been laid off and was offered even a month of severance. It appears very common in San Francisco but the rest of the world acts like most businesses
- partycoder 8y agoSave enough money so you can leave your job if you need to. Connect with people that can refer you if you are looking for a job.
- gammateam 8y agoHN news today: break up and get rich, you'll be happy you guys okay?
- stephengillie 8y ago> If you're unsure whether to quit your job or break up, you probably should. Which one? Both?
- gammateam 8y agothere is also a news article trending here about money improving quality of life for people, from nytimes
- lmm 8y agoYes, I broke up and got rich and life is much better than it used to be.
- halfjoking 8y agoGood to know - I broke up with a girl I would have married because she kept complaining I worked too much on my startup on weekends.
- gammatrigono 8y agoHopefully.
- cjbprime 8y agoI wonder if there's a potential rationalizing effect -- unmentioned here as far as I can tell -- whereby people are simply unwilling to admit to having made a bad life decision, and are willing to lie about how happy they are after the life change to avoid this.
- PhasmaFelis 8y agoOr just that quitting your job/ending a relationship can both be extremely stressful in the short term, and people fear going through that harsh period even if they hope to be better off after.
- toxik 8y agoThis is most definitely the case, but the question is if it's really unhappiness then? The paradoxical nature of humans is such that extreme trauma, like car accidents, change lives for the better. "I stopped taking life for granted," this kind of thinking is fairly widespread among accident survivors. Maybe it is a coping mechanism, maybe it isn't -- but the people involved clearly do believe it.
- norswap 8y agoYep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias You can see it as a specialization of the endowment effect also.
- quickthrower2 8y agoThis is biased because the coin being heads only made people 11% more likely to do so, so most of the factor in whether they made the leap was whether they were going to anyway. The causality may not be the change => :-), but instead change+ready+motivated => :-) The title might be better as "If you’re pretty sure whether to quit your job or break up, you probably should"
- noobermin 8y agoBut if you're pretty sure, then...you don't need a coin to make a decision, do you? If you already know, then it doesn't really require an article does it?
- monadgonad 8y agoNah, these decisions can be extremely difficult to go through with. Even if you’re pretty sure, and can lists loads of benefits to making the decision, there’s still a “what if it all goes wrong?” holding you back.
- noobermin 8y agoThen that sounds like the "unsure" category, not the "sure" category.
- coldtea 8y agoBeing sure and being ready to make it are two different things. People can be deeply sure, and even be able to articulate very well, that X is very bad for them (job, relationship, habit, etc) but still not be able to quit it.
- noobermin 8y agoMay be I am playing with definitions, so I apologize if you think so although I think I have reasons for my thinking. Here's my logic: may be someone hates x, but not doing x has adverse consquences, so they don't stop x. That, to me, sounds like a decision, that isn't "unsure", that's doing x even though you hate it because you don't want to lose out on y,z,\omega. The thing is that still is a decision to me. In a similar sense, doing x for a period of time until you can quit and never do it again is also a decision, and it has its own circumstance, but it is also a sure decision. What I read what they said, is I don't like x, but I have reasons y,z,\omega, so should I stop x? That is what I call "unsure", even if you don't like x. The reason I think so, is because you're still open to keeping x, even though you hate x, and you have the ability to say no to x. Then, why say no to x, and lose y,z,\omega anyway? Which is worse? x or not y,z,\omega? I guess the reason is especially in Western culture, we put way too much stock in internal motivations, and all of psychology and history teaches us that internal motivations often end up being BS, fancy stories we tell ourselves anyway. Often times, material context matters a lot more than internal reasons. It's not moods don't matter at all, and I'm not saying we're just machines, but people seem to seriously discount one's context these days.
- sidhuko 8y ago"Job quitting and breaking up both carry very large, positive, and statistically significant coefficients at six months. Going on a diet is positive and statistically significant at two months, but has a small and insignificant impact by six months. " Guy breaks up with girl Goes gym (2 months) Guy finds girl (6 months) I'm sure we have these chemicals which effect emotion to be overtly opportunistic about life around periods with new sexual partners to encourage reproduction. But I'm just an alien
- kpwagner 8y agoHaha. I quit my job once. July 2009, working in finance. My next job was two years later, scooping grain at a grain elevator. You know how to tell when the economy is in the last 25% of an economic expansion? When everywhere you turn is another white collar professional under the age of 30 in the middle of an existential crisis. Brace for impact, because we're all about to punched in the fucking mouth. And some of us are going to be like, "What? I thought things were just supposed to keep getting better every year. We've had one breakfast yes, but what about second breakfast? Elevenses? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper?" Best as I can tell, the data for this article was collected via freanomicsexperiments.com over the course of a year. But I didn't see what year the experiment was conducted. And I'll bet you all my bitcoin the experiment data was not collected during any year from 2008-2012. Job markets, like credit markets, are very elastic. It's easy to find a replacement job right now, and it's also easy to qualify for a home loan.
- somethingsimple 8y ago> You know how to tell when the economy is in the last 25% of an economic expansion? When everywhere you turn is another white collar professional under the age of 30 in the middle of an existential crisis. Can you elaborate on that? I feel like you’re talking about something quite important but I can’t really grasp what it is.
- darawk 8y agoHe's saying the luxury of an existential crisis is a symptom of a bloated economy. In 2008, you'd be lucky to have a job at all, and very grateful if you did. As that memory fades, people feel more and more entitled to a comfortable existence. When they reach the level of "if i'm the least bit unhappy with my job, fuck it, I should quit and do something else"...we've jumped the shark. At least, that's my read of what he's saying.
- sbmthakur 8y agoTrue. Last year, I resigned and then started looking for a job and got several offers. This was only possible because all of my co-workers were able to find better opportunities. If it weren't for the good job scene around me, I probably wouldn't have resigned.
- rdl 8y agoMuch better put by whoever did the “fuck yes or no” blog post of a few years ago, IMO. (Mark Manson?) This should be how you treat new things. OTOH, while economists say “sunk costs are sunk” and should thus be disregarded, in real life switching has often-underestimated costs (including reputation) so skipping out on things at the first sign of trouble is usually bad.
- stigi 8y agohttps://markmanson.net/fuck-yes https://markmanson.net/fuck-yes
- ivmethods 8y agoSwitching costs are not sunk costs.
- grecht 8y agoI like that blog post, it resonated with me and generally feels like sound life advice. But the problem I have with it is that this is essentially the life advice you'd get from a good friend after the 3rd beer in the pub, yet it's on Mark's website where he presents it as dating advice in a way that makes it sound like it's the truth and everybody should do it. I would've wished for at least one sentence where he declares "Fuck Yes or No" his own thought experiment or approach to dating. But I guess more cautious and less self confident writing doesn't make as much money.
- rdl 8y agoI think what I originally read was someone else’s post or tweet or something inspired by this specifically in the context of cofounders. It is pretty widely held advice in investing, at least.
- nnd 8y agoSivers also wrote about it: https://sivers.org/hellyeah https://sivers.org/hellyeah To be fair he wasn't the original source either.
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- jl2718 8y agoAverage benefit is meaningless. Individual decisions are made by minimax, which says to stay.
- dochtman 8y agoThis header is just missing the "if you're making more than 50000 a year" condition.
- lordnacho 8y agoYou should, and the reason is this. When you're evaluating a decision, you have partial information about the extremes. If you've been with someone for a year, you know how bad your worst fight was. Chances are though, whatever it was is a sampling from a distribution that you've only sampled a small amount of. Your eventual worst fight will be worse, because when you have more samples chances are the extremes will be more extreme. (BTW if you're evaluating algorithmic trading strategies you need to think about this.) If you're already thinking things are bad enough to consider leaving, you can look forward to them getting worse even if the underlying dynamics are no different. Note the asymmetry and the importance of the extremes. Everyone who has a breakup story also had good moments and may have mostly enjoyed their average day. But you choose to leave because of the lows, not the average or the highs.
- iforgotpassword 8y ago> If you've been with someone for a year, you know how bad your worst fight was. Chances are though, whatever it was is a sampling from a distribution that you've only sampled a small amount of. But you also need to sample across different partners. How many partners do you need to sample to evaluate whether the fights you have are on the better or worse end? Then there's only so much time in life. Also you change and get more mature. I don't think I learned that much from the relationship I had at 19 than at 25 and again at 30. Choosing one partner for life, while not impossible, is pretty flawed because you never know how both of you will change over the next 10 years. Plus the general problem with us humans that we're just never content with anything for extended periods of time. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. By that logic, don't even start a relationship ever. Stay single, so you don't have any responsibilities. Slightly dissatisfied with your current job? Put in your two weeks notice and see where life takes you. Shouldn't be to hard to eventually get another job in tech. Moving shouldn't be an issue at all. Unemployed for a year? No problem, you got plenty of savings, since there is no nonsense like college funds for any kifds going on in life. Only that eventually you might wonder if your life might be incomplete without having raised your own kids... That green grass stuff again...
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- speedplane 8y agoNo one is sure of anything, this is a pretty obtuse and ridiculous recommendation. A better recommendation, would be: trust your "instinct" and act on it with purpose.
- afarrell 8y agoAn even better (or possibly the same, I'm just restating you more verbosely) recommendation would be one which gave you a mental framework to help you organize your thoughts around the situation so that you can be confident in exercising your own judgment. Books which are good for helping lay out such a mental framework include: - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Decisive-How-Make-Better-Decisions/dp/1847940862 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Decisive-How-Make-Better-Decisions/... - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Too-Good-Leave-Bad-Stay/dp/0718141776 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Too-Good-Leave-Bad-Stay/dp/07181417...
- scottlocklin 8y ago"Both are significant at the p=0.04 level, and fortunately I don’t think Levitt had many if any opportunities for specification mining here to artificially drive down the p value." You guys will fall for anything, won't you?
- csomar 8y agoSo the recap of this is: Break up, Quit your job, Move to another country, Start a business, Don't propose, Don't have kids. Seems to me like almost of the opposite of what everyone around the world is doing.
- WilliamEdward 8y agoAnd yet almost everyone around the world is depressed, unfulfilled, poor, and making too many babies.
- mhb 8y agoHans Rosling says no: https://www.amazon.com/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Better-ebook/dp/B0756J1LLV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535291174&sr=8-1&keywords=factfulness https://www.amazon.com/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Bett... But you're in good company thinking that.
- lx3459683 8y agoIf you want an average outcome, follow the average path. Having kids or getting married or staying in the same place all their life does not make people any happier. God knows I've seen plenty of people who were bitter about any combination of those choices. If you want to actually live your life as a conscious being, stop looking at what other people are doing and decide what you want. It's scary and it's not for everyone.
- seventhtiger 8y agoEveryone has a natural level of happiness that is extremely difficult to change permanently. The fact is some people just have an unhappier baseline than the rest, or a happier baseline. Circumstance will move you around your neutral happiness but over time you will always tend to go to that level. It's called the hedonistic treadmill. The things that do affect your happiness in a big measureable way are whether or not you're poor. Being rich doesn't make you happier, but being poor absolutely makes you unhappier, so does being unhealthy and being lonely. If you're not poor, healthy, and have human companionship there doesn't exist any external goal that will actually make you happier long term. So take what simple pleasures you get, enjoy accomplishing any goals you want, but never think some different career or object or hobby will make you happier. It won't.
- ewjordan 8y agoThe big difference between leaving a relationship and leaving a job is that even if you're in a good place, a job will never last for life. Some relationships will. Anecdotally, I don't know a single person that has regretted leaving a job when they decided to (disclaimer: most people I know work skilled jobs). Even when people come back to the same company, it's usually on a different team and with a 30% bump in salary. So I generally agree, once you're thinking about it, it's probably time to go, you'll only end up better off. Relationships are a lot more nuanced, hence the lesser benefit the article reports versus leaving jobs. I'd want to see it broken down by relationship length, age, happiness level and other factors before making any serious decisions based on this article.
- __s 8y agoMy mother & father have both held the same job for the past 20 years, & intend to retire from those jobs. Secretary at a lawfirm & furniture repair. They're both now enjoying 5 weeks vacation a year. & hey, they've also maintained a great relationship for three decades too
- XorNot 8y agoAnd they're probably legacy employees in both those positions - it's extremely unlikely anyone new entering is going to get the same terms or stability.
- scarface74 8y agoMy parents did too. Good luck with that in technology. I’ve seen (and been) one of those people at a job for a decade, and then when it’s time to leave find yourself unhireable. While you are there, watch salaries increase in the market much faster than your salary increases.
- dajohnson89 8y agoI've definitely left a good dev job for more money and regretted it.
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- hashrate 8y agoReally surprise with all comments here. Quitting your job if you have kids a wife and a mortgage is a much more complicated topic than just saying "F* this I'm going to raise cows in the Montana" It's complicated to move internally in a corporation , so thinking as to moving to another company to another position when you have responsibilities it's pretty much like playing the Russian roulette with your finance and your situation.
- coldtea 8y agoWell, you only live once, so there's that. In the end, if you're not happy with your situation, you might get depressed, alcoholic, legal opiod addicted, on even blow your brains out, and that might be worse for the kids, wife, and mortgage.
- hellisothers 8y agoThat’s what he is talking about though, “You only live once” is a selfish (no negative connotation intended) sentiment. If you have a wife, children, debts people are expecting you to repay then to some extent you need to deal with some adversity. I’m not saying everybody should stick it out in terrible situations but “you only live once” is not the reason you should be flipping the table if you have people depending on you.
- spacehome 8y agoI always put on my seatbelt when driving. YOLO!
- shrimp_emoji 8y agoInterestingly, confucianism extends this concept of obligation to society at large, in which case you're never flipping the table as a good person. I wonder if that's a better paradigm than the more individualistic one we have in the West.
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- wimgz 8y agoHell yes, or no
- Confusion 8y agoEveryone wonders whether to quit or break up sometimes. That of course doesn't mean you should do so. The title is miseading. The first line of second paragraph states that data was collected on people that were 'deeply unsure' about something. Quite a lot depends on how much you are actually considering it. Unless you are sure the data in the study is representative for your situation, this study doesn't help much.
- singularity2001 8y agoThat's horrible advice for relationships. Once you sleep with her, marry her. Sorry for being conservative here.
- joshschreuder 8y agoOut of interest, what makes this good advice vs. the advice in the article?
- singularity2001 8y agolimited observational data: less fucking around => much happier marriages => happier kids.
- phyller 8y agoActual conservative sentiment would be, once you marry her, sleep with her. Worked for me! Here's my reasoning. If you are expecting someone else to make you happy, you're in for disappointment. It's just human nature, one or both of you is going to disappoint the other. My apparently contrarian take on relationships is when you are ready to become selfless and start concerning yourself with making other people happy instead of yourself a) congratulations, you are now an adult human b) you can find someone that you can decide is worth the effort, and then stick to it. And you may be surprised to find that selflessness and happiness are highly correlated. That's also human nature, IMO how we are hardwired to live as social beings. There's some great ancient literature on the subject, and I don't think it is a principle which changes much over time and culture.
- singularity2001 8y agoI honestly wished I had read your very good advice a bit earlier in live. If I had to condense "What's wrong with society" into one sentence it would be that people have mostly forgotten your way of reasoning.
- scarface74 8y agoThat’s not conservative.... that’s just bad advice. She won’t be happy if you are just in it out of obligation and you won’t be happy either. If you have kids, they will be able to tell and I’ve never known kids that are happier in a house with two parents that don’t want to be there than one where the parents are separate and healthy. It’s also not being a good role model for your kids to set the expectation for them to stay in a unhealthy relationship. True, marriage should never be treated as disposable but if only one person is working on it, it’s timr to leave.
- gk1 8y agoAnother way to put it: A "so-so" job (or relationship) is worse than a terrible job, because a terrible job at least motivates you to look for something better. Whenever I ended a so-so job, project, or relationship, the result was always "I should have done that sooner," not "I shouldn't have done that."
- revskill 8y agoIf you're in an unhappy position at your job or life, you can ruin your relationships naturally, or you can use those relationships to save you. So, leave the job or not, it's based on your relationship also.
- spacehome 8y agoDid I read this correctly that proposing caused an insanely strong 5 point reduction in happiness? And that having a kid was also quite negative? It sounds like the takeaway is that if you're on the fence about any of these issues, you should quit your job, break up with your romantic parter, don't have kids, don't get engaged, and start your own business? To me, it looks like the common thread through all of these is that happiness goes hand in hand with independence and freedom.
- ysleepy 8y agoBut not taking the step may send you over a cliff some later time. You might be quite happy now, but without a family or maybe a business you might be lacking a sense of purpose later in life. So investing 5 points now, may set you on a path to long-term happiness.
- spacehome 8y agoIt's possible. This advice is reserved for people who have thought it over endlessly and have reached the end of what rational decision making can do. Probably they have considered a sense of purpose and had different thoughts on the matter.
- UncleEntity 8y ago> It sounds like the takeaway is that if you're on the fence about any of these issues, you should quit your job, break up with your romantic parter, don't have kids, don't get engaged, and start your own business? Exactly how my life turned out and no one looks to me as a shining example of how one should achieve happiness in life...though I do have independence and freedom in droves.
- spacehome 8y agoDo you think you would have been any happier with your old job, kids, and spouse? Presumably if you made the choice to give those up you thought it was a good idea at the time. Did you change your mind about that?
- Tloewald 8y agoMy favorite result was “should I propose?” -5!
- projektir 8y agoHmm. This seems like one of those things that may be statistically true, but the statistic may not be relevant to a given situation. I think there's a term for stuff like this but I forgot it, regression to the mean, maybe?
- RickJWagner 8y agowhy is there a photo of Barack Obama on this article? I really don't see the connection. Anybody please enlighten me?