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YouTube is a constant grind. As a YouTuber with 15 million views and 100k subs, I can attest to this being a real thing.

anoncoward111 8y ago
Damn thats illucidating. Do you enjoy making the content at least?
AndyNemmity 8y ago
I know several youtubers, and twitch streamers and the thing that is striking about them is that the time's they sound the most... mentally disturbed is when they discuss the process, the algorithms, the schedule, etc. The passion, and angst they have for it all is obsessive, and seems very unhealthy. Looking for reasons everywhere for which signals are causing them to go down in views, or not go up. Or not go up as fast as they had planned out in some sort of scaling of the past performance they've had. I feel quite badly for them, and it's the reason I don't bother streaming even though the few times I have, with their support I get a lot of viewers. It's a completely viable thing for me to do, but the "thing" in question is to be as unhappy as they are, and as obsessed with the detail of if people like me or not. You couldn't pay me for that hell.
gowld 8y ago
Why? Why not post less often? Is YouTube more of a grind than any job?
- otalp 8y ago
  15 million views will give you around 20,000 dollars. Just on the verge of being livable but not yet. If you stop now it's very hard to regain the momentum.
  - Scoundreller 8y ago
    You're assuming CPM ads. I assume sponsorship tie-ins, affiliates, promos, etc. is where the real money is at, which you can negotiate directly for at that scale.
    - wfsn 8y ago
      Depending on the content, that's not always available. And while it's a more stable source of income with only 15 million views it's unlikely to be a major income stream
  - CryoLogic 8y ago
    Used to depend on the content you created. My coding channel with 30k subs made about 10-15k since 2014. That's on less than 5m views. The ecosystem used to favor high demand niches by offering much higher CPM. It is all homogenized now and YouTube is saving the highest CPM ads for the most popular / connected creators. $1-3CPM I've heard is average. Coding videos now get around $4-$6 down from $15-$20 when I started. Not producing frequently also reduces your CPM. Same with short length videos. Many factors go into the CPM rate now that are not great for creators.
matwood 8y ago
You’re basically running a startup that may never get out of the startup phase. The grind is similar.
CM30 8y ago
YouTube is a constant grind because the algorithms punish anyone who isn't uploading content on a regular basis. I suspect that probably has a lot to do with these meltdowns and what not, since people are forced to keep uploading content whenever possible or lose a decent chunk of their audience/their attention. There's often no time for a break if you want to succeed on the platform. Then again, that's also a problem with a lot of Google services in general. Google search rewards those who post the most regularly too. Could be interesting to see if any bloggers or writers have similar issues with that.

anoncoward111 8y ago

Damn thats illucidating. Do you enjoy making the content at least?

AndyNemmity 8y ago

I know several youtubers, and twitch streamers and the thing that is striking about them is that the time's they sound the most... mentally disturbed is when they discuss the process, the algorithms, the schedule, etc. The passion, and angst they have for it all is obsessive, and seems very unhealthy. Looking for reasons everywhere for which signals are causing them to go down in views, or not go up. Or not go up as fast as they had planned out in some sort of scaling of the past performance they've had. I feel quite badly for them, and it's the reason I don't bother streaming even though the few times I have, with their support I get a lot of viewers. It's a completely viable thing for me to do, but the "thing" in question is to be as unhappy as they are, and as obsessed with the detail of if people like me or not. You couldn't pay me for that hell.

gowld 8y ago

Why? Why not post less often? Is YouTube more of a grind than any job?

otalp 8y ago
15 million views will give you around 20,000 dollars. Just on the verge of being livable but not yet. If you stop now it's very hard to regain the momentum.
- Scoundreller 8y ago
  You're assuming CPM ads. I assume sponsorship tie-ins, affiliates, promos, etc. is where the real money is at, which you can negotiate directly for at that scale.
  - wfsn 8y ago
    Depending on the content, that's not always available. And while it's a more stable source of income with only 15 million views it's unlikely to be a major income stream
- CryoLogic 8y ago
  Used to depend on the content you created. My coding channel with 30k subs made about 10-15k since 2014. That's on less than 5m views. The ecosystem used to favor high demand niches by offering much higher CPM. It is all homogenized now and YouTube is saving the highest CPM ads for the most popular / connected creators. $1-3CPM I've heard is average. Coding videos now get around $4-$6 down from $15-$20 when I started. Not producing frequently also reduces your CPM. Same with short length videos. Many factors go into the CPM rate now that are not great for creators.

matwood 8y ago

You’re basically running a startup that may never get out of the startup phase. The grind is similar.

CM30 8y ago

YouTube is a constant grind because the algorithms punish anyone who isn't uploading content on a regular basis. I suspect that probably has a lot to do with these meltdowns and what not, since people are forced to keep uploading content whenever possible or lose a decent chunk of their audience/their attention. There's often no time for a break if you want to succeed on the platform. Then again, that's also a problem with a lot of Google services in general. Google search rewards those who post the most regularly too. Could be interesting to see if any bloggers or writers have similar issues with that.