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> he diet was a formula of 825–853 calories per day for 3 to 5 months, followed by the stepped reintroduction of food over two to eight weeks. That is going to
by randlet 9y ago
> he diet was a formula of 825–853 calories per day for 3 to 5 months, followed by the stepped reintroduction of food over two to eight weeks.
That is going to be a brutal 3-5 months. Worth it in the end though.
Also, c'mon, a range of 825-853 calories? Nobody is counting calories that accurately and it would have been better to say "roughly 850 kCal per day".
- sp332 9y agoIt's tough not only to cut back the calories, but to pack needed nutrients into the few calories remaining. Over several months you could accidentally end up with a severe deficiency of something.
- BlytheSchuma 9y agoSoylent.
- Retric 9y ago... is not designed for an 850 calorie diet.
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- toomuchtodo 9y agoToo much sugar (check the label). More like Ketochow (protein shake, vitamins, heavy whipping cream). Each of my servings is ~500 calories. Shed three pounds per week eating it 3 meals a day, no exercise. I miss the pancake batter taste of Soylent, don’t miss being fat.
- JBlue42 9y agoHow bad is the taste?
- toomuchtodo 9y agoDelicious. I eat the chocolate and peanut butter Ketochow flavors regularly.
- JBlue42 9y agoThat sounds better than Soylent, tbh. I might have to check this out. Thanks!
- ketosoy 9y agoThere's a pretty wide range of products out there right now in the "keto soylent" market: http://Ketolent.com http://Ketolent.com http://KetoOne.com http://KetoOne.com http://KetoChow.com http://KetoChow.com Keto Fuel http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/ http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/
- toomuchtodo 9y agoDisclaimer that you make one of the products?
- BlytheSchuma 9y agoThe sugar is mostly isomaltulose.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoCarbs are carbs.
- BlytheSchuma 9y agohttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160216111400.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160216111400.h...
- toomuchtodo 9y agoI should’ve been more clear, my apologies. Even if isomaltulose is released more slowly in the bloodstream, it’s quantity is higher in Soylent than one would prefer. Too many carbs are too many carbs.
- sp332 9y agoMaybe not Soylent(TM) but a modified recipe with less carbs (maltodextrin and isomaltulose) would work.
- ketosoy 9y agohttp://Ketolent.com http://Ketolent.com http://KetoOne.com http://KetoOne.com http://KetoChow.com http://KetoChow.com Keto Fuel http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/ http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/
- pascalxus 9y agoSpinach can help a huge amount in that because it has soo many nutrients. Here's my fasting plan: 1 Meal/day 100 cals - 1 lb of Spinach 60 cals of tuna (1/2 a small can) 1/2 lb of cauliflower That total comes out to about 200 cals and meets aboout 100% of 1/2 of all the micronutrients and roughly 50 to 100% of all the other micronutrients. The Tuna (Selenium,b3,b12,b6) nicely complements the Spinach (high in A,C,E,K,Iron, Magnesium). And you get a relatively high amount of protein and fiber (normalized for cals) Also, you can use something like Crono-meter to measure all your nutrients. And btw, just because someone is eating 2000+ cals doesn't mean they're getting all their nutrients. Most of the foods people eat are so devoid of any nutrition, they minus well not even count.
- sp332 9y agoDid I misread or are you eating a pound of spinach in one sitting? How do you fit that in your stomach?
- DiabloD3 9y agoHave you never cooked spinach? It turns into nothing by the time you're done.
- seanmcdirmid 9y agoHe didn’t specify though. Cooked and raw spinach have very different nutritional properties, so it makes sense to eat both.
- pascalxus 9y agoThe minerals stay the same. It's just the vitamins that are decreased. But, spinach has such a vast amount of vitamin A,C,K to start with, it hardly matters.
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- thedaemon 9y agoTrue, but you should always listen to your body. It usually craves the things you need. If you of course discount the craving for sugars and the like.
- nradov 9y agoIn my experience "listen to your body" is most often an excuse that people use to continue making unhealthy choices about food. Is there any research data on the correlation between food cravings and actual nutritional deficiencies?
- firethief 9y agoIt's definitely true to some extent. People with mineral deficiencies sometimes start eating eat rocks and dirt.
- mkagenius 9y agoA man[1] lost in an ocean suddenly developed an appetite for eyes of fish -- rich source of Vitamin C (which they had started to have depletion adrift in the sea) 1. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/04/castaway-jose-salvador-alvarenga-survival-expert https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/04/castaway-jose-...
- leereeves 9y agoThe paper says: > ... total diet replacement (825–853 kcal/day formula diet for 3–5 months), stepped food reintroduction (2–8 weeks) ... That sounds to me like participants were given a professionally prepared formula to consume instead of food, so the calorie counts might be that accurate.
- dekhn 9y agothey had to drink shakes, basically. that's the only way to get that level of control.
- mtgx 9y agoI think in the previous post that was on HN about this they were interviewing a lady that said she was eating some powder that "had all the nutrients", which sounds like something similar to Soylent.
- CabSauce 9y agoThere's a keto version called keto chow. There are recipes online as well as pre-mixed packages to buy. I don't know that the study used this exactly, but it's the same idea.
- packetslave 9y agoProbably something like Optifast. Kevin Smith (the filmmaker) dropped a ton of weight on it, and it was like 850 calories per day with weekly doctor checkins.
- esalazar 9y agoYou can get quite a lot of food in 850 calories. Vegetables are pretty low cal. Below is a plan I just created that is less than 850 calories Total Cals - 836 Breakfast: 2 eggs - 156 calories Lunch: 2 cups of spinach - 14 calories 1 cup of bell peppers - 39 calories 200 grams chicken breast - 226 calories Snack: 1 banana - 105 calories Dinner: 200 grams chicken breast - 226 calories 1 cup of broccoli - 31 calories 1 cup of bell peppers - 39 calories
- imjk 9y agoThat's very similar to a standard lunch for me.
- randlet 9y agoThat is certainly not what I would consider "quite a lot of food"! If I was forced to use your meal plan I'd eat it in a single sitting in the evening and fast the rest of the day.
- gadders 9y agoThis is why I hate the term "Two pizza teams". At best that is me and one other person. On a hungry day (say after training squats) I'd be working on my own.
- jason_slack 9y agoWhile there are a few comments that this is a single meal. This is pretty much how I consume my food each day. The only exception is that I tend to add an Icelandic style yogurt to breakfast and some turkey sausage. Puts me around 1,000 calories.
- agumonkey 9y agowho came with the idea of kCal, cal, Cal btw ?
- sridca 9y agoThat's not so brutal when consider that there are a group of people who purposefully consume less calories in order to prolong their lifespan: https://www.crsociety.org https://www.crsociety.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction
- 0xcde4c3db 9y ago> Also, c'mon, a range of 825-853 calories? Nobody is counting calories that accurately and it would have been better to say "roughly 850 kCal per day". That range might represent the precision of data they have for the formula mixture (if e.g. macronutrient data is only given to the nearest gram or half-gram and you consider the possible rounding error in both directions).