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Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit
- quuquuquu 9y agoSide topic: In the USA, what is the legal precedent for business competitors having a very similar name? If I name my social network for race car drivers "Racebook, Inc.", and my logo is a blue square with a white "r" on it, am i opening myself up to legal trouble?
- senectus1 9y agoIt'll be Lawyers at 100 paces. whoever has the baddest lawyer wins. (or the largest number of baddest lawyers)
- bmcusick 9y agoYeah, this seems like a probable trademark violation as it's likely to cause confusion in the marketplace. I expect they'll have to change it.
- josto 9y agoSee trademark dilution
- wyldfire 9y agoA guideline for determining trademark infringement is "confusingly similar". Also trademarks have scope and so operating in the same business/domain. Unlike copyrights or patents, if trademarks aren't well protected they can be considered forfeited (Bayer's Aspirin is a pretty common example). So you could imagine Facebook or Reddit reacting pretty swiftly in the case of examples like yours or OP.
- amyjess 9y agoA while back, somebody created an Imgur knockoff called Slimgur. He specifically created it because Imgur was enforcing its TOS banning hate speech, and he didn't like that. Imgur threatened to sue, and he was forced to change his site's name, first to Slimgr, and eventually to sli.mg (though the second change was because he lost the domain when the registrar found out he was letting his users upload child porn).
- kelukelugames 9y agoRemember Twitter and Twitpic? I imagine raddit is not okay.
- icebraining 9y agoTwitpic got bullied, it didn't lose in a court of law.
- vxNsr 9y agoInterestingly, right after YouTube became popular a ton of -tube websites popped up, it was before they were bought by Google so they didn't have the money to sue and I'm guessing by the time Google bought them they probably no longer had a good case.
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- saghm 9y agoReddit is already (mostly) open-source, I think: https://github.com/reddit/reddit https://github.com/reddit/reddit
- notatoad 9y agoit was announced a couple days ago that that is going away.
- kohjingyu 9y agoThey recently announced that this is going to be archived and no longer receive updates. https://www.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/6xfyfg/an_update_on_the_state_of_the_redditreddit_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/6xfyfg/an_update...
- junkculture 9y agoThe communities already there appear to be as toxic as reddit, so good job. I guess.
- seizethecheese 9y agoStrangely toxic comment.
- tdb7893 9y agoIn my experience it's pretty easy to find non-toxic reddit communities. Most smaller subreddits for specific things are actually pretty nice.
- King-Aaron 9y agor/chickens is where its at.
- mrep 9y agoAgreed, it usually takes less than a minute to figure that out. Albeit, I usually don't ban it unless I find them hopelessly close minded when it comes to debates. For other subreddits, I follow them once I have seen them enough times to like them.
- mwill 9y agomost sports subs are great, shoutout to /r/mma, best mods on reddit.
- odiroot 9y agoBut you need to be aware that's the recommended way to use Reddit. A lot of big subs and even some default ones are extremely toxic, propagandist and authoritarian.
- pacomerh 9y agoWhen a community is a sample of the world, and the world is full toxic people, then...
- shitlord 9y agoIt didn't take long before your site was taken over by political extremists
- tray5 9y agoIt was built by anarchists to be an explicitly anti-capitalist community
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- tray5 9y agoEh it's not really a general purpose reddit clone, it was written by users of /r/anarchism as an alternative platform for discussion because they lost faith in the reddit administration. You can see this in the design of the site, with a larger focus on democratic decision making and an intolerance for any bigoted or racist communities. If voat was the alt-right's reddit alternative then raddit is the lefts.
- blackguardx 9y agoAre anarchists considererd left wing? Anarchists and especially anarcho-capitalists have a lot of overlap with libertarians. If you talk to a serious anarchist, they sound like they are against big government and other authority structures. The far left is suppsed to be communist, which seems the opposite of anarchy.
- cgag 9y agoR/anarchism absolutely hates anarchocapitalists
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- xxpor 9y agoIt doesn't fit neatly into the left-right divide. If you look at the political spectrum as a 2 dimensional grid with (0,0) in the center, the limits are -10 and 10, and economics on left/right and authoritarianism and libertarianism as up and down, anarchists would be (x, -10). You can basically plaster any economic system on top. IMO, they do tend to the extremes of communism and full on capitalism because it's not very practical to have a mixed market economy like ours without a government entity to do regulation.
- e12e 9y ago> The far left is suppsed to be communist, which seems the opposite of anarchy. Communism: weak central government, strong communal (local) democratic decision making - let people make decision that effect them directly (locally). You may be thinking of the old-fashioned idea of a socialist state as a "tyrrany of the many" as a transition from an armed uprising towards a communist state?
- WalterBright 9y agoWith that name so close to Reddit, I expect you'll get a trademark infringement notice shortly.
- camel_Snake 9y agoMaybe, but I think that would be a bad move at this point. Why give them the free PR?
- vincentriemer 9y agoCould probably fall under trade dress infringement too.
- blairanderson 9y agoHey mods can we rename this to "an alternative to reddit" Given the link has nothing to do with hacking or how the site was created or a link to the source
- chungy 9y agoThere is a link to the source on GitLab in the footer, but indeed that is not the focus of the homepage.
- King-Aaron 9y ago> Given the link has nothing to do with hacking or how the site was created Let me draw your attention to: - Wind Energy Is One of the Cheapest, and It's Getting Cheaper (scientificamerican.com) - Fish are eating lots of plastic (washingtonpost.com) - A ten-day camel trek through the Australian outback (themonthly.com.au) - A Japanese Pen Maker Anticipated the Fountain-Pen Renaissance (bloomberg.com) And thus discard your issue as not relevant
- Zpalmtree 9y agoI think his point was that the title indicates it's an open source reddit clone but the content is nothing about the open sourceness of it or how it was created, whereas the articles that you point out are I assume true to their titles. He wasn't saying it shouldn't be on here because it's not hackery, just it should have it's title renamed
- greggh 9y agoCode is Symphony based and can be found here: https://gitlab.com/edgyemma/raddit-app https://gitlab.com/edgyemma/raddit-app
- dojovader 9y ago*Symfony
- oddrationale 9y agoSo is it powered by blockchain?
- snakeanus 9y agoIf they did that because they lost trust in the reddit administration then I think that a distributed approach would be much more fitting instead of making yet another reddit clone. In fact, NNTP would be probably exactly what they want.
- flukus 9y agoThey're like the opposite of voat, they split because reddit wasn't authoritarian enough for them. They want to dictate what can be said and who can contribute. A distributed approach wouldn't work.
- JosephLark 9y agoPersonally, I would love to see something like Lobsters [0] made general purpose. It's very HN like, but I love the ability to tags posts with multiple tags so that a single topic of conversation can belong to multiple subreddit-like communities. I've always wished that HN would co-opt that tagging. It seems like the best of both worlds (general front page and targeted communities) and naturally aides discoverability of interesting communities. [0] https://lobste.rs/ https://lobste.rs/
- WikipediasBad 9y agoWhoa lobsters is really cool. Probably the best/most promising reddit alternative I've seen because it's not taken over by some kind of extreme faction of some form.
- loceng 9y agoI'm in love with Lobste.rs now that I've read their about - https://lobste.rs/about https://lobste.rs/about Anyone browsing comments that could invite me?
- chasing 9y agoYou know why Reddit and Twitter became some toxic environments? Because they're not designed for healthy community development. And neither is this. It's a mindless clone and it already looks like it's turning toxic.
- dejawu 9y agoNot rhetorical - how does one design a community for healthy development? I've messed with forum design before and I'm curious how the layout and format influence behavior.
- alex_g 9y agoI think this is an interesting topic too. Some ideas I've had on this: You prevent people from posting terribly toxic comments in the first place, whether that's automatic moderation or warning them that their comment is toxic and to reconsider what they're about to post. I'm gonna plug http://www.getspectrum.io http://www.getspectrum.io here b/c it's relevant. Require answering a question related to the topic at hand before allowing comment submissions. I read about this being done by a news site in Europe not too long ago. Prompt the audience/community with a specific question/prompt that the discussion/comments will be in about. That way every comment is a direct response to the same question. This could help keep things on topic. I think a lot of toxic comments are often from indirect tangents. What if you could see comments that have been posted only after posting one of your own? That way your primary contribution is an organic thought and not an angered response to what someone else has said.
- chasing 9y agoYou're thinking good thoughts as far as being aware of the various effects that software design will have on community. Hacker News, for example, restricts certain actions (like downvoting) until you've crossed a certain participation threshold. Other sites disallow downvoting entirely. Some sites don't allow images or links. Others do. Some require a few bucks payment to join. There are all sorts of technical tricks to help tune a community. But there's also just non-technical stuff. Which I would argue is actually more important, since any piece of social software can be perverted if a certain subset of users is determined. A non-technical example: setting community norms. Hacker News also does this reasonably well -- the community doesn't respond well to goofy memes, for example. This isn't something you read in the rule book, it's something you experience by reading comments and feeling out the tone of the conversation. And if you do post something that doesn't fit the community, you'll pick up a few downvotes or some-such. Most users understand the nature of the community so it self-polices relatively well (with a little help from moderators). I think large open communities (Twitter, Reddit) that need to maintain a ton of traffic to make money have trouble with this: It's tough to want to service the community needs of the entire planet and tell people "Behavior X isn't something that's appropriate here." I'm not an expert and before you tear me a new one, remember that this is a Hacker News comment and not a peer reviewed journal article. I'm just tossing out some thoughts. But my belief is that designing for communities is actually quite a challenge, and the fact of the matter is most people putting communities up online right now don't really put much thought into it. Which is a shame. It allows a small subset of toxic users to really damage what should be a good thing for the rest of us. Back in the days of yore -- late 90s through 2006-ish -- community design was actually a pretty hotly debated topic. But, like I said, it really seems like these days old fashioned comment threads (like you see on news articles), Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter have established themselves as the blueprint for community design and people just sort of copy those without thinking about how they do and don't work. And then online communities become toxic and some people assume all online communities are toxic and then some people start thinking all people are toxic and -- hey! Look where we are. (I'm stretching a bit at the end, here, of course. ;-) )
- monokrome 9y agoI wonder if these people are aware that they didn't need to write a Reddit clone? Why would you write a Reddit clone in PHP when Reddit itself is a perfectly fine open source Python project? Is their license not permissive enough? https://github.com/reddit/reddit https://github.com/reddit/reddit
- akras14 9y agoI was wondering the same thing
- Fizzer 9y agoReddit just recently announced they're no longer open source [1]. The last source dump could still be used, but I think they choose not to just out of a statement that they're against the Reddit corporation. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6xh3xp/reddits_main_code_is_no_longer_opensource/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6xh3xp/reddits...
- hilbertseries 9y agoReddit is kind of a pain to run at small scale because it has so many dependences: https://github.com/reddit/reddit/wiki/Dependencies https://github.com/reddit/reddit/wiki/Dependencies.
- granitosaurus 9y agoThat's actually not much at all.
- pherq 9y agoThe authors of Raddit tried that, but found that actually running Reddit's software, especially on low-end hardware for a smaller community, was a pain in the arse and decided it'd be easier to build their own that fit their purposes.
- andypants 9y agoThat's not the complete source code. Some parts are kept secret such as the voting algorithm.
- goeric 9y agoIsn't Reddit already open source? https://github.com/reddit/reddit https://github.com/reddit/reddit
- lovich 9y agoThey recently States they were no longer going to commit to those repos and were no longer going to be open sources. Those repos you linked are supposed to stay up though
- broodbucket 9y agoComponents are, but no, not any more. https://www.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/6xfyfg/an_update_on_the_state_of_the_redditreddit_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/6xfyfg/an_update...
- seany 9y agoWas hoping this was going to be a better performing clone of voat, not an even more restrictive platform.
- smortaz 9y agoUhhh... there's already a radd.it which is a nice viewer for reddit videos. people might get confused (or are these related?) update: radd.it just shutdown. hmmm...
- tomglynch 9y agoThis is interesting. I'm interested to know how this all occurred. This statement is from here http://radd.it/farewell.html http://radd.it/farewell.html: "Why? Some of the reasons are personal but many have to do with reddit. A few months after I finished working on this site, I had what I can only describe as a spiritual awakening. I now see how reddit is just a part of a far-larger deception designed to keep us blind and afraid. I no longer want to play any part in it. If you'd like to know more, I made a vid explaining things further."
- PrimHelios 9y agoI followed the link at the bottom, and checked out the top stickied post on the subreddit it linked to and... wow. This guy seems a bit off his rocker: >"Can you spell 'buisness' for me?" >Spell it with me, people. B-U-I-S-N-E-S-S. This word comes from the Dutch root word of 'buis' meaning 'pipe' as in a a process or workflow. "Business" is quite obviously busy-ness. Most demons will never admit this to be true or even entertain the thought. >You'll hear things like "Doesn't work make you busy?" Yes it does, but that doesn't explain how you could get the pronunciation of 'buis-ness' from 'busi-ness'. ----- >This is the question I asked when my 'mother' was suddenly at my house back in California. (I was wrong about her being a 'clone' though.) She could not answer 'yes' to the question so I just kept asking it. >Yes or no, are you my biological mother? "What? Why would you ask that?" It's a simple question. Are you my biological mother? "I don't understand why you'd even ask me that!" Yes or no-- "YES!!" You must wait for the question. Are you my biological mother? (Hope I formatted this correctly)
- fourstar 9y agoI really think the future is a decentralized model that rewards its users for content creation. https://steemit.com https://steemit.com is what I believe will replace reddit.
- shanbhag 9y agoWasn't this made by Mackenzie Child in 2014? https://youtu.be/7-1HCWbu7iU https://youtu.be/7-1HCWbu7iU
- shanbhag 9y agoOr maybe it has the same name
- akras14 9y ago> bigotry - intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
- GhostVII 9y agoI think we found the website of the "alt-left"
- gagabity 9y agoSo glad this is PHP! What is node.js used for? Could I go without it?
- bpicolo 9y agoWebpack, looks like. Only if you don't want a frontend?
- CM30 9y agoI've said it in the last post about this site, but I'll say it again here regardless. This site makes the same mistakes as a lot of other 'alternative' social networks or systems, in that it offers nothing for people who aren't interested in talking about politics or the problems on the original site. It's entirely a hard left wing community laser focused on discussing American politics. There's virtually no discussion of more everyday topics there (like games, TV, movies, music, sports, etc), especially not in a way that doesn't cram politics into everything. So people who don't care about political discussions or agree with your political views won't join this. Because there's nothing there that Reddit or independent forums on their favourite subjects don't do much better.
- arkh 9y agoThis. An alternative to reddit would let you make dossiers: related news stories a little like some subreddit megathread do for huge news. So you could follow a developing story for multiple months or years. Have links to aggregate articles by authors, news site, area or protagonists. A simple example of use: check r/science about old health breakthrough on mice and see if it fizzled or not or how advanced the human trials are.
- staticelf 9y agoThere is already an open source reddit clone created from the same reasons https://voat.co https://voat.co and it's far superior.
- jhasse 9y agoI like Raddit's design more, also Symfony over .NET.
- _red 9y agoRaddit is a terrible name.... Lets name our product confusingly similar to the original, even though we claim the original is terribly flawed: "Don't eat at Joeys, most of the food contains poisons, eat at Joeez!"
- r3vo 9y agoWhy is it so difficult for a forum to accommodate different political views? Is this a problem of human nature? The idea of a uncensored reddit it a good one, but the first thing I see going to the page is an administrator complaining that they apparently cannot effectively ban "nazis". https://raddit.me/f/lobby/6159/we-re-being-brigaded-by-nazis-with-too-much-time-on-their https://raddit.me/f/lobby/6159/we-re-being-brigaded-by-nazis... From the comments I've read here, it definitely seems as though the site has the typical heavy handed administration banning opinions it disagrees with. Why can't any of these sites just allow people of all political ideologies to post? 4Chan is the only site I can think of which has never had censorship of this sort. Why is this such a difficult thing to accomplish?
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- PrimHelios 9y agoI like the idea, but the admins are... troubling. I appreciate that they're banning nazis, brigaders, and people spamming bigotry and gore, but they're straight up wishing violence on these people. It's one thing to think "Wow, you're a dick and I hope you die" and another to openly admit it and let it influence your decisions. Thanks, but no thanks.
- MaymayMaster 9y ago>That Featured Forums list More like an open source, far left version of Reddit. This will go absolutely nowhere, much like Voat, because the foundation of the website is built on an extreme political ideology. Good luck getting the average Reddit user to transition.