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Intel Unveils Strategy for State-Of-the-Art Artificial Intelligence
- arcanus 10y agoHardware battle over AI platforms is heating up. Will be interesting if Intel can catch nvidia, or GPUs in general.
- zump 10y agoAs someone who works in the semiconductor industry, I'm worried that joining an AI hardware company is a risky move that will falter just like General Magic and other hyped hardware startups.
- bendbro 10y agoHave any other examples of failed hardware? I love reading about these, most of which I get from r/shittykickstarters, but I'd like to have a rich vein of failed SV startups
- Keyframe 10y agoThinking Machines and Transmeta come first to my mind. I'm foggy on details around Thinking Machines, but I vividly remember hype and lustrous lies/promises media pushed about Transmeta.
- astrodust 10y agoIntel itself was once a risky company to join, as the whole concept of a microprocessor seemed both stupid and crazy at the same time. Their 4004 series calculator controller was a useless toy compared to more serious computer hardware at the time and their 8008 was marginally less toy-like but equally useless for enterprise computing. We're in the 8088 stage of AI right now.
- zump 10y agoGood point. I have a cognitive bias against startups because I think what they're doing isn't complex, but it is fallacious.
- barrkel 10y agoYou shouldn't chase complexity; chase opportunity. For the same opportunity, a non-complex approach will normally be superior to a complex approach.
- ethbro 10y agoAlso, complexity is hard. And even harder to do substantially better than competitors. Maybe I'm biased, but I can count far more company fortunes that were made doing a simple thing (at the right time) than a complex thing.
- duaneb 10y agoThankfully none of the major players are startups.
- zump 10y agoNot after Nervana got scooped up.
- siberianbear 10y agoNvidia is heavily pushing AI right now, and it could be their biggest market in the future. But they're not a startup: Nvidia is valued at $50B. Their core market is selling high-end graphics cards for hard-core gamers. Even if their AI business failed completely tomorrow, it's still a viable company.
- corin_ 10y agoWorth noting that while gaming may be the biggest part of their business, it only accounts for ~50-55% of their revenue.
- pjmlp 10y agoI seriously doubt it, so far all Intel attempts for performance minded GPU use have been sub-par. They are just good enough as integrated GPUs for the occasional gamer and that is it.
- rspeer 10y agoI hope so, because nvidia's cudnn is an awful black box of brokenness and we only use it because there's no reasonable alternative.
- mistermann 10y agoI would love to hear any opinions on how one might invest in this, the no-brainer Nvidia has had a huge run already, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was double from here in a year's time.
- astrodust 10y agoIt really depends on how the market shapes up. You might see one software company rise to dominance where they interoperate with different platforms interchangeably, or you might see a single hardware vendor come to dominate a number of much smaller software vendors. NVidia is the horse to bet on now, but it remains to be seen how they can can expand beyond their current model of leaning heavily on their GPU technology. As AI becomes more pervasive you'll want to have it integrated into smaller, more power conscious devices, such as would be the case in robotics. Does NVidia have a solution here that scales down? Clearly they're focused on scaling up, as that's where the money is today.
- Teever 10y agoThey don't necessarily have to scale down to get the benefits of AI in side smaller devices such as robotics. There's no reason why the robotics devices can't or won't be equipped with a variety of radios to facilitate communication. The AI agent can easily be somewhere centralized where power isn't a big deal. Then the robot stops being analogous to an animal with it's own brain and starts being something more like an appendage. Or maybe they'll be like those magical mops in Fantasia.
- dontreact 10y agoAt least two good reasons that you would have things running locally: Latency sensitive applications Privacy sensitive applications
- eloff 10y agoOh god, imagine being in a self driving car that does it's computing in the cloud - and then you enter a tunnel. Obviously cars are not really power or space limited and they can't rely in connectivity. But it's funny to think about anyway.
- grabcocque 10y agoFor a millisecond I thought Intel were doing something new and interesting. Neuromorphic or neuromeristive architectures maybe. Nope it's just some rebranded x86 cores.
- lern_too_spel 10y agoNervana TPUs aren't rebranded x86 cores. They aren't neuromorphic either, and I don't know what neuromeristive is.
- eagletusk 10y agoPerhaps it uses a memrister?
- elihu 10y agoI think memristers are an HP thing. Intel's competing product is 3D cross point, which, according to marketing is a persistent memory technology that's higher density than DRAM and faster than flash.
- deepnotderp 10y agoNeuromorphic means brain like, so basically, super parallel. Neuromemristive,although I haven't heard the term before, means using memristors to compute artificial neural networks.
- jordz 10y agoThey should call it "State-of-the-ARTificial Intelligence". Teehee.