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Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]
- comboy 10y agoTo be completely fair, you can show me almost anything with Benny Hill music in the background and I will enjoy it ;) Anybody knows if these 3 cameras on the right are the only ones used by the auto pilot?
- disillusioned 10y agoNo. The system uses 8 cameras. Three forward facing (narrow, wide, standard), two rear facing sides (the two showed here), one rear, and two side cameras.
- comboy 10y agoThanks. makes sense, and I guess makes easier to implement some kind of depth perception.
- sliken 10y agoImpressive to watch. The Tesla drives quite politely, but not annoyingly so (read that as impeding traffic). It actually stopped for the joggers who wasn't actually in the road, but very close. It also waited for a bicyclist on the right to turn left in front of the car. Looks pretty promising, not bad, especially since the trend in software (and sensors) is to get better over time.
- inimino 10y agoOn perfectly marked roads, in fair weather, with no bad behaviour seen from other drivers in the video. Impressive, but the technology has a long way to go yet before it can replace human drivers.
- Gys 10y agoI do not understand why the focus on self driving is so much on the whole trip. 90 - 95% of the time I am driving long stretches, I spend on highways. No problem if only that part would be done selfdriving. Those few minutes in busy town centers I do not mind to do myself. No problem of driving short stretches (10 - 15 min) either.
- em3rgent0rdr 10y agomaybe your driving behavior is different from other people. I live in a city and do about half time on city streets and half time on highways. Anyway, consistent performance on all parts of the trip is needed to convince buyers.
- kalleboo 10y ago> needed to convince buyers Buyers were convinced by "cruise control", which just (barely) keeps a set speed.
- Matt3o12_ 10y agoIt shows that the car would have been able to drive the route completely without a driver. This is handy if you want to pickup somebody, want to avoid high parking fees, need to charge your car without actually doing it. Doing those things right now in a Tesla is probably not safe just now, but it shows that level 5 autonomy is not so far fetched and 2020 is a realistic date.
- sundvor 10y agoThis is pretty impressive. Still, at 00:54, getting a closer look at the female runners? Someone following could have gotten caught out if driving too close / playing Pokemon. A human driver (well, at least myself) would simply have lifted the foot off the accelerator somewhat and drifted closer to the centre line when passing - seeing as there was no oncoming traffic.
- Klathmon 10y agoPerhaps the car knows it's own capabilities better than we humans do. Maybe it knows that if the joggers were to suddenly jump out, doing what you or I would do isn't enough, so it slowed down to a near stop just in case. Also, it's a bit of a "blind corner", so drifting out toward the middle of the lane might not be the best idea (again, even though it's probably something I as a person in that scenario would have done).
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoI've wondered about this. Totally defensive driving would reduce a car to 5mph - somebody might jump out from behind every blind corner or mailbox. Truth is, we all drive fairly irresponsibly, trusting in the rules of the road and human self-preservation to keep most stuff out of our way. And if we do hit somebody who dashes out on the freeway, well that's an accident or 'their fault' or 'nobody's fault' so no foul. Will we allow automated drivers that privilege?
- Klathmon 10y agoI think it's going to take some societal change, but we will have to. Computers are just an extension of ourselves. The people making these systems will make mistakes, these systems will kill people (and arguably already have), but hopefully they will kill less than we currently do by not having them. There's this stigma around "computers" where people treat them differently than everything else. Yes, you're getting into a car whose programming could cause you to die, but you are always relying on this kind of thing. Getting in a regular car, you are relying on the engineer who designed the braking system to have been correct, you are relying on the factory worker to have been paying attention that day, and the QC robot to have been programmed correctly, etc... We need to get away from that, we need to treat the computer in your car as you would treat it's braking system. Accidents will happen, people will get hurt, bugs will occur. If they are systemic, there will need to be changes, recalls, and fixes. But the car will never operate in 100% of conditions flawlessly, and neither will you.
- SCdF 10y agoI was wondering if stopping for the joggers was more of a bug than a feature. I don't drive much, so I'm definitely not an expert about what is best in that situation, but I would have drifted over the middle line to give them a nice berth and kept going.
- celticninja 10y agoAs a cyclist that was nice to see.
- tsaprailis 10y agoThere's also the longer (3:28) video with the Paint It Black theme: https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware-neighborhood-long https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware...
- cybertronic 10y agohttps://player.vimeo.com/video/192179727 https://player.vimeo.com/video/192179727 for sharing just the video
- mhomde 10y agoThat's really weird choice, who are picking these songs? :) I can't imagine they've licensed the music either... I guess next up is the "Highway to Hell" video
- GunboatDiplomat 10y agoMy guess? Elon.
- mhomde 10y agoHaha, I find the image of him doing that, and no one daring to try change his mind, hilarious for some reason. I can see it escalating: "So for our next video let's set up smoke machines on the road here, and then we'll have a camera team in front capturing it coming out of the smoke in slow-motion with "Smoke On the Water" as soundtrack. It's going to be amazeballs!" "Umm, ok Elon..." "Put in a lion roar as well" "I quit."
- jaimex2 10y agoElon would have picked Amish Paradise.
- nandemo 10y agoIt feels like they edited the video and then picked a song that exactly matched the video's length.
- noir_lord 10y agoThe Benny Hill theme tune was a pretty unfortunate choice of background music, not sure if that's the impression they wanted to make (maybe it was, not sure).
- kowdermeister 10y agoGeez, indeed poor choice. I muted it first and kept listening to my deephouse podcast :)
- XJOKOLAT 10y agoWhat? Come on. The TV show was ridiculous but the theme still brings a smile to my face. Appropriate in bringing light heartedness to a typically sped up video. Can everyone chill the fox out about a theme tune?
- JimDabell 10y agoWhen the last video came out, there were quite a few people saying "wait, that video's sped up, right? It doesn't seem to be taking turns at a safe speed." I expect Tesla got feedback indicating that some people didn't notice that the last video was sped up, so they decided to make this video a lot more obvious by speeding it up even more and adding the music. I agree, it's not really a good choice, but I can see how they might have come to that decision.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoIndeed; for me this music has two primary connotations - "funny" and "sped up".
- jdietrich 10y agoI like it. The tech community tends to be a bit dour and pompous. We tend to overblow every tiny announcement into some world-changing event. Look at Apple's recent announcement video for their $300 book for a particularly gratuitous example. It's healthy for Tesla to retain a sense of self-deprecating humour. Self-driving cars are massively important, but they're also a bit silly and strange. There's no harm in acknowledging the absurdity of a car that drives itself. There's no harm in bursting your own bubble.
- sz4kerto 10y agoI think the most interesting part of this video is that there's a lot of fog.
- LeonM 10y agoI don't know about other countries, but at least in the Netherlands the Benny Hill song is used mainly in videos to ridicule the subject. I remember when funny 'Home Videos' were a thing on TV (before cats took over on the interweb) this song was used in about 90% of them. So to me, using this song in something as serious as a self driving car demonstration is pretty weird.
- Aardwolf 10y agoThis song is also often used in a recurring absurd segment in cartoons when some people are running after each other and they go into / come out of random doors in a hallway.
- dexterdog 10y agoWhich is an homage to Benny Hill.
- agumonkey 10y agoProbably to humble brag how Tesla made it so simple it's almost something to laugh at.
- alblue 10y agoTechnically the tune is called the "Yackity Sax" but it may well be more widely known as the Benny Hill theme tune.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoIt's just asking for someone to redo the movie with Kevin MacLeod for the soundtrack. Come to think of it, I just feel like making a montage.
- aequitas 10y agoIf you look at it from the perspective of the sane and rational (Tesla autopilot/a cartoon viewer) viewing down to the ridicule (Human drivers and their emotions/absurd cartoon scenario) I think it is well placed :)
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- em3rgent0rdr 10y agobest part at end: you can save time by exiting before the car parks itself.
- jakubp 10y agoI thought the best part was the car doesn't need to park anywhere near. Large parts of cities will be freed for us to use.
- jzwinck 10y agoLarge parts of cities will be turned into roads for driverless cars to ferry themselves to and from the office 2x as many times to save the owner $10 on parking. Traffic will go slowly because driverless cars don't care about speed when no one is inside. And then all the plebs still driving their own cars will be stuffed.
- pmyjavec 10y agoThis is kind of true, as much as this tech is fascinating, I can't help but feel trains and better planned cities are the real solution to the car problem. Even in parts of Europe I noticed they put big trucks on trains to automate a large part of the journey and a driver finishes the last leg of the trip. Trains are also much easier to automate, I also imagine a train track costs less to maintain than a road.
- kayoone 10y agoTrains are complementary but there will always be need for personal transportation.
- pmyjavec 10y agoI never said there wasn't, however; What is obvious is that if taxis and trucks (privately owned or not) are now so cheap to run because there are no labor cost involved in having them on the road, then the next problems we will face are increased congestion, increased pollution (electric cars still consume a lot of power), increased road degradation. The only way to control this might be through increased taxes or car registration fees. This still means the car problem needs solving.
- globalgobble 10y agoJaw dropping. I as a European born in a not so fortunate part of Europe (EE) have to really admire America. Americans deliver. Cocky europeans keep on whining how much culture and quality of life they have but at the end of the day they are just insecure about themselves. 1/5 of my countrymen, more than a 1m people escaped from communism to this great country. * DISCLAIMER : I am aware it's not all wine and roses ;)
- romanr 10y agoSo it appears it's reading the road signs? I see it stops on the intersection with a stop sign where's no traffic lights. But what if the sign is damaged or removed? The car will go straight without stopping?
- tomp 10y agoMaybe it's relying on maps & GPS data.
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- visarga 10y agoWhat if the GPS data is outdated?
- TeMPOraL 10y agoWhat would you do if you'd remember there used to be a stop sign there, and now it's gone?
- linsomniac 10y agoI'm still having a hard time not stopping at the intersection by my old high school and they removed the stop sign there 3 years ago!
- reitanqild 10y agoNo tesla expert but I think they have an extension package that would let the car adjust itself based on previous "experience". IIRC it would automatically make a note of your location when you pass speed bumps or bad patches of road and adjust the suspension accordingly.
- rshm 10y agoI hope they are using GPS/Map data for existing signs along with visual identification of the signs. Even when the gps is not accurate enough, the system should amplify the accuracy of the location based on permanent objects and the topography. Either on the first video or some news, i think i heard the ability to drive where the lanes are not clearly defined. Things such as snow would absolutely requires such reconstruction.
- latch 10y agoCouple spots where I think an inattentive driver could have easily rear-ended the car. ~0:55 mark is a prime example. I understand that whether the driver was paying attention or not, he or she would be at fault, I'm just pointing it out.
- the8472 10y agoThere seem to be some issues. E.g. it recognizes the joggers (0:55) as obstacles even though they're obviously (to a human) on the sidewalk. And when taking a right turn (1:01) it mistakes a hydrant and a parked car in a parking bay on the other side for an obstacle and stops for a moment before noticing that they're not actually in its lane. I think a polite driver may have slowed down gradually to not startle the joggers, but not stopped if it were avoidable, especially since there was a car behind the tesla. In the latter case i guess the field of view of the cameras is not wide enough to assess those things during a turn in advance?
- gokhan 10y agoIt passes a single jogger without an issue beforehand, but they were two when the car stopped and left one was relatively close to the lane when the car was approaching. Maybe it wouldn't stop if it was a single jogger.
- xxxxxxxx 10y agoIf you pause it at 0:54 it clearly made a mistake. The foot of the left person is outside the green box, the car thought the person was further forward and to the left of where they really were. Good progress but not ready for prime time.
- y4mi 10y agoyou're looking at it from the wrong perspective. the car just wanted to slow down to give the male driver time to properly look at the female joggers.
- ajmurmann 10y agoI don't want my car to be like the creepy telepathic dog from "A boy and his dog" that is always looking for partners for his owner to mate with.
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- smnscu 10y agoWow so many comments about the Benny Hill music. I for one love that Elon Musk's quirky sense of humour. So many people take themselves far too seriously.
- justinv 10y agoDo you think that Elon Musk was the one to put this out (or even design the video)? I'd have a hard time believing that, to be honest.
- martin-adams 10y agoProbably not. But if he doesn't like it, I wouldn't want to be the person who did put this out.
- jdiez17 10y agoElon is known for being closely with involved with his companies' PR. Here he acknowledges the music choice explicitly: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/799908000689336320 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/799908000689336320
- celticninja 10y agoI think Elon Musk had a lot to do with the video, I imagine the music was his choice. Very few other people could suggest this tune due to its previous comedic use.
- cfontes 10y agothe barge names also show this
- rasz_pl 10y agoWe are talking about a car that decapitated its driver this year.
- Klathmon 10y agoWhy should an unfortunate death involving something mean that their marketing can't be fun or lighthearted.
- Dowwie 10y agoWhat I've learned from this is how boring demonstration videos of self-driving are, regardless of whether Yakety Sax plays in the background
- kozak 10y agoI'm disappointed that radar images aren't included in the video. They ought to be very interesting, a whole new perspective on the world around us.
- Pica_soO 10y agoHis fingers, so twitchy.
- Reason077 10y agoVery cool demonstration (despite curious choice of music!). I did notice that the lane markings are suspiciously bright and well-painted throughout the video. Almost as if they'd been touched up by Tesla! Or maybe this area just has particularly diligent road-painting crews. In many parts of the real world you'd be lucky to get such clear lane markings throughout the journey, certainly not here in the UK or in places that get winter ice & snow.
- martin_bech 10y agoIn my autopilot gen 1 Tesla, when the software was first released, lane markings had to be really clear, but as the software has matured, it now does less than perfect lane marking in pretty heavy rain without issue.
- makomk 10y agoI think the current-gen autopilot vision code is a completely different codebase from a different supplier running on different hardware than the gen 1, though, so all those improvements have probably been thrown away.
- golergka 10y agoCurious, why do you think so? Wouldn't make much sense to throw all that stuff away.
- manicdee 10y agoFor the same reason it makes no sense to keep your Sega Saturn games when you now have a Playstation. There are some testing scenarios which Tesla should be able to use, ut none of the software from MonilEye has relevance to Nvidia's platform.
- ajmurmann 10y agoI know I'm probably gonna get downvoted, but I cannot not bite. I'm super happy I kept my Saturn games. I still play them occasionally and some of them are very valuable now. I also hope you meant PS3 or PS4 when you said "PlayStation" and were not trying to revive a long gone console war that was very painful for some of us.
- amq 10y agoCan someone explain the left turn on 1:41? Seems a bit aggressive.
- dexterdog 10y agoWatch out at regular speed. Ashley consider the acceleration power a Tesla has. It can get into a tight spot quickly without altering traffic.
- elisee 10y agoI believe Tesla's AP 2.0 is built on NVIDIA's platform (with probably a lot of custom stuff, of course). If you want to learn more about how that kind of system works, that CES 2016 demo is very instructive, especially from 42:50 onwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2573&v=KkpxA5rXjmA https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2573&v=KkpxA5rXj...
- Asooka 10y agoThat's really impressive, but I really want to see it driving through rush hour in a densely populated old Italian city. Let's continue pushing the envelope.
- atemerev 10y agoI did it. Once. Friday evening in Milan. Something you wouldn't wish on anyone who is even remotely your friend.
- wslh 10y agoI would love to see how autopilot works in different cities (e.g Mexico City, Rome, Buenos Aires). I Just found "I tested Tesla Autopilot in Manhattan traffic — and lived to tell about it" http://mashable.com/2015/11/06/tesla-autopilot-new-york/ http://mashable.com/2015/11/06/tesla-autopilot-new-york/
- martin-adams 10y agoI would absolutely love to see how it handles roundabouts in the UK. Some of the ones I use daily are pretty hairy even for a competent driver. And then there's the magic roundabout in Hemel Hempstead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih223jffmek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih223jffmek
- annerajb 10y agoWhat's the most amazing is that Elon mentioned on twitter that it's only using data gathered in the past month since they announced the hardware/first video.
- pupdogg 10y agoFastest speed clocked in at 35mph during the entire trip with an average of 15-25mph for remainder of the time. Does this suffice a realistic use case? Specifically in US?
- GunboatDiplomat 10y agoIn town, with the level of traffic seen? Yeah, it's keeping to the posted speed limits. Realistically, I'd be doing 5 to 10 over except in explicit residential zones, when there are cops (limit to 5 over), and when traffic doesn't allow it.
- martin-adams 10y agoI think watching this in real-time would be more informative. At 1:32, it pull out on what looks like could be a busy road, then stops before starting again. It doesn't look so bad sped up in the video, but not great in reality.
- ghaff 10y agoI agree about real-time. I get that it would be more boring but I find it hard to judge how the performance differs from a typical human driver in the sped-up version.
- skykooler 10y agoHere's one someone did, from the teslamotors subreddit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLaEV72elj0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLaEV72elj0
- Shivetya 10y agoWell it was certainly fun to watch. Aren't there more detection methods than just cameras? This is certainly the best one I have seen from them but I still want to see it at night, in rain, and such, times when people need the most help with driving. This was still too nice of weather to get a good impression of how far its come. Also, if the driver wants to exceed the speed limit of a road will autopilot allow them? If so, who becomes liable since the system will obviously know the speed. If the road had not been curved when it came upon the joggers would it have passed without stopping? Is that something that needs work on? I understand its erring on the side of safety. So next drives, a night run, a rain run, and if they are really ballsy then both at one time. Would be cool to have someone throw something in front of it while its going through the parking lot, beach ball, etc.
- handonam 10y agoIt seems like the right-bound of the lane (the right red line in the midview camera) was not calculated, so it thinks the joggers were inside a big lane. that'd be my guess as to why they would think the joggers were not "outside" of the lane for the system to breeze by. At 1:23-1:24, there's a person walking their pet and it looks like they were really close, but the camera was able to detect the right boundary.
- oolongCat 10y agoI really hope Tesla would do a demo on the roads of India. If a car can self drive there I would have no trouble purchasing one. Indian drivers are some of the most resourceful drivers I have seen on my visits there, yes its complete chaos, but how they navigate through all that, while utilizing every bit of the road is, just amazing. p.s I really enjoyed the choice of music on that video.
- PinguTS 10y agoDaimler done that 3 years ago even in high density city traffic. Daimler could even pass vehicles that covered half the lane and didn't need to stop for them. https://youtu.be/SUOC8tE4bdM https://youtu.be/SUOC8tE4bdM
- jsemrau 10y agoBut the video does not have Benny Hill ;-) (Just kidding)
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- dzhiurgis 10y agoAre you implying timelapse format is intentional?
- zeroxfe 10y agoThat's more a bunch of edits than an end-to-end demo.
- PinguTS 10y agoI did not invested the time to search for that version and I doubt it exists.
- kozak 10y agoAnd it has a proper emergency stop button!
- Klathmon 10y agoI'm curious what that button does? Does it go full "emergency brake" mode and stop the car ASAP, or does it give control back to the driver? I could see the former being useful during development, but I wouldn't want a "slam on the brakes" button in my car. And the latter could be much more easily worked out by just switching under any driver input on the steering wheel.
- ema 10y agoI think the choice of music is quite clever, makes it seem jolly and approachable, instead of the connotations of solemn futurism that self-driving usually has.
- gambiting 10y agoI'm surprised by the number of Stop signs everywhere. Is that normal in US? Also, there are moments in this video where the car was turning left and a driver coming from the opposite direction was turning right - yet Tesla turned first? How? I really wish they provided a non-sped up video.
- pmyjavec 10y agoI agree, the roads are perfectly marked. It's early days but incorrectly hardly complex edge cases, like graffiti on the signs, could be a matter of life or death. I wonder if the AI just detects an intersection and if it doesn't know what to do, disengage?
- lazyjones 10y agoThat's impressive, but still an easy course compared to what I see daily in my (large) city. I'll get mine in February and am curious to see what it'll do in those narrow roads where 2 vehicles going in opposite directions can't pass each other sometimes.
- snsr 10y agoI'm curious about the implications of this technology (which is amazing) on courteous driving habits. I regularly stop to let people cross the road, I cross the center line when safe to give people and cyclists (if I plan to pass) extra space etc. I suppose, in this Tesla at least, you can just take control, but some other proposed implementations seem to have a less traditional UI.
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- rbobby 10y agoOk... I'm officially old now. I've been keen on the idea of self driving up until now. Watching this just makes me want to grab the wheel... too much traffic, too many people on the side of the road... nope I don't think would I be comfortable. Oh well... I guess I'll have to wait for the mini-van style with blacked out windows :)
- jbuzbee 10y agoI wonder how these self-driving systems are going to deal with wildlife or even domestic pets running wild. It's fairly common on my commute to see deer grazing along the roadside just a few feet from the pavement. I typically slow way, way down and creep by as they'll walk right onto the road if the mood strikes them. Getting enough test-cases for the software could be difficult.
- sethbannon 10y agoAnyone understand how it's color coding the boxes on the right? Seems like green, blue, and purple all likely stand for different categories of objects.
- DuckyC 10y agothere's a legend at the bottom of the video
- carleverett 10y agoThe car seems to have a bad habit of turning its steering wheel at stop signs before making its turn. This isn't really a problem at stop signs, but would definitely be dangerous if turning left on a green while waiting for oncoming traffic. The only left on green we get to see in the video is at 15s, but it didn't have to wait for any oncoming traffic. Hopefully it knows to treat those situations differently.
- thomasthomas 10y agothe design possibilities and field day designers will have when steering wheel and forward-facing seats aren't retrictions will be amazing
- 51Cards 10y agoCamera based... so if you drive through mud or it's raining hard does this still work?
- troutaway123 10y agoDo your eyes still work when you drive through the mud or it's raining hard?
- 51Cards 10y agoDo the cameras have windshield wipers? At times if the window gets too dirty or it's raining too hard I need to pull over to clear it, even with my high tech eyes. Will the car go into a fail safe mode? Just stop in the middle of the lane because it thinks the bug-strike on the lens is a person?
- sabujp 10y agoI'd love to see this in $heavilyPopulatedIndianCity. ahha, found this : http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/09/17/top-secret-uber-tested-its-self-driving-car-in-india-and-these-are-the-results/ http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/09/17/top-secret-uber-tes... these guys are doing it right (teach your car to drive on the other side of the road) : http://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/010316/self-driving-car-indian-techie-builds-autonomous-tata-nano.html http://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/0103...
- fernandezpablo 10y agoIs it doing a weird maneuver on 1:32 or is it just me? Something like stopping right after turning. I'm not full aware of the USA transit laws so this might be required but it doesn't seem likely.
- codecamper 10y agowhat happens when a few autopilot cars come to different roads on a 4 way stop? What about driving through a parking lot (lots of cars around). Seems dang near impossible to deal with all the edge cases.
- cs2818 10y agoIs a realtime version available? I notice at 0:24 in the short version (0:41 in longer version [0]) it seems to stop early for a stop sign and then resumes driving to the stop sign. It looks like the vehicle in the oncoming lane may have caused the stop. I only noticed because in the longer version the person in the driver's seat lifts his hands when the stop occurs (not as noticeable in the short version). [0] https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware-neighborhood-long https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware...
- Zombieball 10y agoReading through Tesla blogs and watching this video, my understanding is the self driving hardware is cameras and ultrasonic sensors. Does the lack of lidar not scare anyone else? Also, Out of curiosity, does anyone know how a Tesla behaves if you point ultrasonic transducers in the same frequency at it? Do they have special modulation to avoid tampering in this manner? I imagine you could confuse the car into thinking there are barriers it can't see.
- mastax 10y ago> Does the lack of lidar not scare anyone else? I don't think lacking lidar should be inherently scary, humans don't have lidar sensors either and they do well enough. I do hope that cheap solid state lidars do come to market to improve low visibility driving nonetheless.
- YZF 10y agoThe human eye has an incredible dynamic range (>20 stops). It also have very high resolution at the point of interest. I seriously doubt that Tesla's cameras are anywhere close to the performance of the human eye. LIDAR can also make up for deficiencies in the software. The human CPU is also probably a little more advanced than the one driving this car so anything helps.
- lini 10y agoAt this year's DEFCON there was a lecture [1] about the sensors on a Tesla and yes - you can confuse both the ultrasonic and the millimeter wave radar and hide an obstacle or put one that is not there. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvasj4qQ7Lk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvasj4qQ7Lk
- Zombieball 10y agoFinally got around to watching this. Super interesting. Exactly what I was thinking about. Thanks!
- robbrown451 10y agoAs I watch all the views from the cameras, and watch how it is making decisions based on that information, I have to ask: who says a machine can't be conscious? Who says it can't have free will? How do you define those terms so that includes people and animals, but doesn't include this vehicle? </deep philosophical mode>
- Animats 10y agoA longer Tesla demo video with no cuts: [1] This one is at a consistent speed, about 3x normal, and it's worth playing at 1/3 speed to see what's happening. No freeway driving; it's driving around the Page Mill Road / Los Altos Hills area. This video shows an ahead view and three of the vehicle's cameras with their annotations. The system puts rectangular 2D boxes around things it recognizes. Road centerline recognition seems good. Every road seems to have really clear centerline markings, though. Road edge recognition isn't always successful. Roadside obstacle recognition seems very dependent on recognizing cars and people. The system doesn't recognize a large trash can in the roadway until very close. Recognition of roadside traffic cones and barriers seems to be about 50%. Guard rails aren't recognized at all. This has the look of something using deep neural networks trained on common obstacles. It doesn't look like something that profiles terrain. [1] https://vimeo.com/192261894 https://vimeo.com/192261894
- dag11 10y agoIs there an easy way to play a Vimeo video at 1/3 speed?
- Animats 10y agoThere are bookmarklets for Vimeo, and a Firefox add-on for controlling all HTML5 video speed.
- danthejam 10y agoPress F12 go to the console and type `document.querySelector('video').playbackRate=0.33;`
- shalmanese 10y agoI use the html5 video speed control extension in Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/html5-video-speed-control/ejdipbccipeloijefbkiakckfhdbgocg https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/html5-video-speed-... Mainly to play Vimeo videos at 2x speed since Vimeo refuses to put the feature in the player.
- Animats 10y agoMuch better music video of real self-driving: [1] This is what traffic looks like when you totally eliminate human drivers. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_rlLyelQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_rlLyelQo
- mariusandreiana 10y agoIt's so amazing, I was wondering if it's a computer simulation or for real. Great job! http://www.ect.nl/en/content/euromax-terminal-rotterdam http://www.ect.nl/en/content/euromax-terminal-rotterdam
- ape4 10y agoI wonder if it can detect when it doesn't know what do it. Like when it can't find the edge of the lane.