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Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival
- FuNe 10y agoWhy windows? Won't that add to the price? Why not a linux "version" for 100$ less?
- nailer 10y agoLinux (as in Linux/glibc/X/whatever) doesn't have a lot of native apps. Android though would rock.
- hcal 10y agoIs that a troll? Linux has tons of native applications in just about every category. It is absolutely packed with alternatives. I don't use Linux daily anymore, but I almost never had an issue finding programs for what ever task I wanted to accomplish. More often then not the problem was a glut of choices.
- clmckinley 10y agoYes lots of alternatives, you can argue that there is an alternative for virtually everything that is available if you are willing and know how to find it. This is the same argument that Windows Phone (ironically) make, but most people want the same programs that all of their friends run. Computers and most other electronics are appliances to most people they just want them to work without any thought.
- hcal 10y agoIt is fair to say that certain software doesn't run (or run well) on Linux. It is also fair to say that most people don't want to learn how to use new software especially when they already know something else that works. I think however, it is misleading at best to say that it doesn't have many native apps.
- nailer 10y ago>I think however, it is misleading at best to say that it doesn't have many native apps. 'well known' is implied by basic logic: users don't want apps they haven't heard of before.
- nailer 10y ago> Linux has tons of native applications in just about every category. Cool. Where's Word, Tinder, Instagram, Google Maps, Google Mail, Outlook and WhatsApp? I think there's a Linux Spotify, so you've got that. I love Linux (I'm ex Red Hat and IBM's Linux team) but Linux (as mentioned, Linux/glibc/X/whatever) lacks apps. > Is that a troll? Seriously?
- squeaky-clean 10y ago> Cool. Where's Word, Tinder, Instagram, Google Maps, Google Mail, Outlook and WhatsApp? Where are any of these apps on Windows or OSX? Word is the only one with a native app, the rest are either mobile only, or browser based.
- nailer 10y agoWell yes, desktop computing is dying. Hence suggesting Android.
- cptskippy 10y agoYou're assuming they pay $100 for a Windows License. Or that building, validating, and supporting a Linux image would be cheaper in the long run than installing Windows and maintaining a few drivers. And that's not even taking into account the market demand for such a thing which is negligible.
- damien 10y agoI've heard OEMs make more money from pre-installing adware/spyware/trialware than what they pay for the Windows license. You can always decline the EULA and try to get a refund for the bundled Windows license. In Europe it is supposedly easy to get a refund due to a European Union directive on unfair commercial practices: http://no.more.racketware.info/en/europe http://no.more.racketware.info/en/europe
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- tuananh 10y agoHow can Xiaomi is not sued yet?
- romanovcode 10y agoAmerican jurisdiction has no power in China.
- argonaut 10y agoNot true. If Xiaomi sells anything in the US, they can definitely be sued.
- kyriakos 10y agothats why they are not selling in the US in the first place
- contingencies 10y agoUS consumers are bankrupt by definition anyway... even US companies have to offer them payment plans to make a sale. Just look at the cellphone market!
- argonaut 10y agoin the first place. They will eventually sell in the US.
- pritambaral 10y agoMaybe not this — or other ... err, controversial — devices, then.
- seanmcdirmid 10y agoCompanies can sue wherever they do business, xiaomi loses its Chinese advantage if it wants to do biz in any other country outside of China.
- anilgulecha 10y agoIf the RAM is user-upgradable, this will make for an excellent dev machine. Given it's a chinese laptop, it will surely not be locked, so Ubuntu will run well as well.
- viach 10y agoAre you saying Ubuntu runs well on all laptops which are not locked?
- csydas 10y agoI think he's talking about the UEFI non-sense that often happens with western manufacturers to lock it to windows (preventing the switching of the signing keys). I'm not sure how true his thought is in relation to china,but neither here nor there.
- viach 10y agoI just wanted to point out that the absence of UEFI thing doesn't automatically make a laptop "work well" with Ubuntu, as someone could read from this comment. Ahh, it is edited already.
- witty_username 10y agoThere is nothing wrong with UEFI. I had a laptop with it that had no keys by default.
- colemickens 10y agoAre there any x86 laptops sold that are locked down without the ability to enroll user keys?
- eloycoto 10y agoUbuntu and batteries are not good friends :-( I tried few times and still using apple
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- blkhawk 10y agolooking at it I wonder how good the track pad is.
- puranjay 10y agoPeople shit on Xiaomi here but even imitation requires some level of artistry and finesse. This looks like a good clone of Air, and I haven't seen Acer/Lenovo/Dell manage to do that yet.
- chj 10y agoExactly. I have long wanted to switch back to windows, and this is the first one that makes me smile (I am price sensitive:-)
- aoloe 10y agoWhat are you misssing in a Dell XPS 13?
- joebergeron 10y agoA laptop that's pleasing to the eyes.
- zapu 10y agoIs this: http://spadkobiercy.nazwa.pl/XPS13/7.jpg http://spadkobiercy.nazwa.pl/XPS13/7.jpg seriously not pleasing?
- carlob 10y agoThe plastic/fake metal transition is really ugly
- JosephRedfern 10y agoIt's real metal, and carbon fibre (rather than plastic).
- varjag 10y agoCarbon fiber is a reinforced plastic. And yeah this laptop looks nice anyway.
- xbeta 10y agoAfter using few Xiaomi products, no thanks. If I want a Linux dev box, there are other options too.
- vincentkriek 10y agoWhat other options would you recommend?
- knotty66 10y agoFor a cheap, lightweight development laptop I use a Toshiba Chromebook 2 (2015) with a 240GB SSD fitted. Build quality is not up to Apple standards but is still decent. Screen is much, much better than Macbook Air screen though. Battery life is very good. I use Arch Linux and With a bit of tweaking, everything works (bluetooth, wifi, keyboard backlight, suspend/resume etc). I can also dual boot into ChromeOS which is quite nice in it's own right. Lovely machine for the money ...
- andycjw 10y agoI can only find Toshiba Chromebook 2 with 16GB SSD onboard, how did you get 240GB SSD fitted?
- nickjj 10y agoYou can buy http://amzn.to/2a4isAQ http://amzn.to/2a4isAQ [0] and swap it in. This model is compatible with the Chromebook you mentioned. It's about $50 for the 128GB SSD expansion. [0] Yes this is an affiliate link through my Amazon account.
- aembleton 10y agoWhat's wrong with them? I'm very happy with my Xiaomi piston earbuds, good sound quality, survived 1 year of use so far and only ~£10. I've had one of their phones a few years ago and found it to work well. Just annoying that they'd skinned Android rather than providing stock.
- fit2rule 10y agoIf it gets full Linux support, i.e. I can blow away Windows and use Ubuntu, then I'm in. This'll be my last macbook ..
- xorcist 10y agoThey say nothing of Linux support, so they probably didn't care much for it. The bigger model has Nvidia graphics, and the smaller model has only 4GB RAM. For a Linux notebook, I think you'd be better off with one of the Dell or Lenovo with good support.
- jonathankoren 10y ago> If it gets full Linux support... I ran linux as my primary os for 10 years. This was never true for me. Something was always broken, or wonky. 10 years of platitudes about how "it will get better", but it didn't. There is always new hardware to support to various degrees. I got a mac, because I wanted to be able to listen to music and print at the same time. Also, I was tired of all my photos coming out pink.
- keithpeter 10y agoWhat was stopping you from listening to music and printing at the same time? Never seen that one (USB mono laser printer/bog standard mp3 tracks to play).
- jonathankoren 10y agoIt had something to do with device drivers not loading. It was stupidity. It was also 2003. The printer is a classic linux desktop experience. CUPS wouldn't recognize the printer, not even as generic postscript or something, or maybe it did, but wouldn't take advantage of its high resolution because binary blobs being evil or some other high horse. Either way, binary blobs figure into this. So I had to actually buy a driver and color profiles from some company in Germany that had paid a license to make a closed source driver. While I could now print at high resolution, all the photos had a pink cast, that no amount of correction could take away. Boot into Windows, thing prints fine. Ironically, the company touted its color profiles as being better Windows. In 10 years, I never had a machine that had all of it's hardware working correctly. But hey, maybe 2016 is finally the Year of Linux Desktop!
- kas0 10y agoEvery competitor for Apple is a good thing :)
- DigitalJack 10y agoAs a full-time Apple user for the last 7 years or so (not counting my //e days as a kid), I completely agree with this sentiment. When you have a captive audience and no competition, it is easy to become complacent. If Linux had a compelling desktop UI alternative and a compelling seamless device integration, I'd be very happy to switch. I realize there is a lot of subjectivity to what is pretty, but Apple has opened the door for competitors to come out with a more self-consistent UX and address the shortcomings that Apple has introduced in their UX. Such as reduced discoverability, the loss of at-a-glance comprehension.
- zxexz 10y agoOff topic, but have you tried Gnome 3? I personally can't stand it, but a lot of my friends who use macOS love it, to the point of saying it's on par with the macOS desktop environment.
- DigitalJack 10y agoI'll give it a whirl. Last desktop I used was whatever Ubuntu has... Unity I think or something like that. A lot of glitz, but also very glitchy. I'd be happy with plain, consistent, discoverable, comprehisble. The animation eye candy is nice, but it's low on my priority list.
- lcnmrn 10y agoFedora or Ubuntu running Gnome 3 with Dash to Dock extension are the perfect alternatives to macOS.
- zghst 10y agoNot ones that blatantly copy and put backdoors in for their governments (not only Xiaomi but also MSFT, Google, etc)... http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/27486/security/xiaomi-handset-usersdata.html http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/27486/security/xiaomi-ha... https://thehackernews.com/2016/07/hack-Xiaomi-phone.html https://thehackernews.com/2016/07/hack-Xiaomi-phone.html
- kctess5 10y agoI am very tempted to try to acquire one. Seems like it would be a great portable development machine. For robotics work I always end up wanting a small but decent computer to run my ROS visualizations/algorithms and to make small code edits. This has a decent c/gpu, good battery, small form factor, ssd slot, and isn't ungodly expensive. I usually end up running a VM on my primary development laptop but that is very annoying, a dedicated and less valuable machine would be better.
- klackerz 10y agoThe best thing about Xiaomi is that they support their products very well. Almost all of their phones get security updates each month. That is a rare thing in Android nowadays especially with Motorola announcing that they will stop updating their phones with the new security updates. [1] [1] http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/motorola-confirms-that-it-will-not-commit-to-monthly-security-patches/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/motorola-confirms-tha...
- geekodour 10y agoI've been using Redmi 2. It's only around 75$, It has good support and roms and the MIUI os itself is beautiful too. They are doing the right thing, I can't care much about privacy stuff till I am getting my things done.
- pestaa 10y agoI have a Xiaomi Redmi 1S phone. It has not received any update of any kind in the last 3 years, it's still running on Android 4.3.
- klackerz 10y agoThey do security updates for Redmi 1S regularly though afaik. They also update their phones with the new version of MIUI. MIUI 8 is coming for Redmi 1S next month. [1] [1] http://en.miui.com/thread-301820-1-1.html http://en.miui.com/thread-301820-1-1.html
- Sarang235 10y agoI also have a Redmi 1s phone and I have been getting the updates regularly
- leaveyou 10y agoThat's because you probably bought the phone from a re-seller who re-flashed a "custom global ROM" (compiled by who knows who) which does not receive OTA updates because it's not compatible with the official releases. This is what happened to me. After noticing that I don't get the updates for a while I started to investigate and I re-flashed one of the official ROMs from http://en.miui.com/download.html http://en.miui.com/download.html.
- im_dario 10y agoI don't trust their battery run-times. I was looking for a laptop and finally settled down for a Lenovo Thinkpad 13. Thinkpad's battery is 42 Wh with a wifi surfing run-time of almost 7 hours [0], although it being sold as a 11 hours run-time. It hasn't a dedicated graphics chip. Xiaomi's battery is 40 Wh and it sports dedicated graphics. Macbook Air's battery is 58 Wh and it has integrated graphics, lasting around 10 hours [1]. Assuming a similar consumption, Xiaomi's would last less than 7 hours for surfing. But it has dedicated graphics (NVidia 940M) with a consumption (30W) that doubles integrated options (Intel HD in Lenovo and Apple laptops). So, probably it will last 5 or 6 hours of just wifi surfing, even less. [0] http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-13-Ultrabook-Review.166559.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-13-Ultrabook-Re... [1] http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Air-13-2015-Notebook-Review.144375.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Air-13-2015-Noteb...
- rsynnott 10y agoThe battery claim may be for the smaller model, which uses a Core M (similar to the new Macbook). That wouldn't be comparable to the Thinkpad or Macbook Air at all.
- im_dario 10y ago9 hours is for the 13.3 inches model. The smaller model is claimed to last 11 hours.
- nojderle 10y agoI don't know anything about electrical engineering, but could it be possible to optimise that ?
- pcr0 10y agoIt uses Windows though, which should support Optimus and allow it to switch to integrated graphics.
- fulafel 10y agoLaptops with discrete GPUs tend to have an integrated GPU as well, and keep the discrete GPU powered off most of the time. The 30W you quoted is the maximum power consumption for the discrete GPU, when it is active and running at full tilt.
- z92 10y agoThere are laptops which are thinner, faster or has better graphics than MacBooks. But as much as I have checked, every one of them falls flat on battery run time comparison. If there was anything that comes close to Macbook's 12 hours run time, I would have seriously considered switching.
- aguki 10y agoThere has been a Macbook Air clone （13.3", i3-5005u, 4GB, 128GB) floating around on Taobao for 2400 CNY / 360 USD: https://world.taobao.com/item/528554912918.htm#detail https://world.taobao.com/item/528554912918.htm#detail
- dudelemmethink 10y agoThis laptop takes a lot of inspiration from Dell XPS' small bezels plus a lot of (what seems like) other similar ID inspirations... I love my XPS, but this is more affordable. Would love to give this a test run. Is this laptop running Windows?
- d_j_b 10y agoWhen Windows Subsystem for Linux can run nginx, rails etc reliably, will seriously consider leaving behind MacBook Pro for something like this
- unixhero 10y agoWhy not run Linux on the metal?
- d_j_b 10y agoBecause the power management never quite works as it should
- Razengan 10y agoNeither does Windows' power management come close to the hours/work you can squeeze out of OS X on a Mac.
- d_j_b 10y agoFair point. I'd accept the trade-off if it meant I could use quote-unquote Linux instead of macOS.
- dr1337 10y agoYeah but the Macs either come with gimped AMD GPUs or integrated GPUs.
- cptskippy 10y agoWindows power management is no where near as good as OSX, but that's always going to be an issue with horizontally integrated systems. However Windows PM is light years ahead of Linux.
- digi_owl 10y agoIn large part because the Linux devs have to keep patching around Windows-isms (useless ACPI tables for example), and outright bugs that the OEMs paper over with their drivers for Windows. Frankly PC hardware is going through a drawn out second system period. First there was ACPI replacing APM, and now we have UEFI replacing the BIOS. In both case we have simple and straight forward systems that can hardly be implemented wrong being replaced with complex and convoluted systems where each implementation have its own quirks and gotchas. On top of this we have the issue of most OEMs barely testing for Windows, and Microsoft is anything but good at getting their implementations right (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish anyone?).
- toni 10y agoAren't those arrow keys a bit weird? Left and right keys are implemented as standard size keys, while up and down keys are so small and tiny. How do you work like that?
- cisstrd 10y agoIt's less uncommon than you think, for example I know the HP Probooks do have that (and most likely many more) http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_Probook650_Tastatur_19d7e070bf.jpg http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_Probo... That being said I have no experience with such a keyboard, so I can't say Friend of mine has one, he is happy with it, never particularly mentioned the arrow keys as a negative
- iagooar 10y agoApple does that too and it works like a charm.
- Narishma 10y agoI hate that arrow key design, and is the reason I haven't bought HP laptops in a long time even when their specs and/or prices were better than the alternatives.
- hathym 10y agoxiaomi will destroy apple in just few years.
- cia48621793 10y agoI do think that Xiaomi's new laptop will meet its first explosion after on sale for a week, like any other Chinese products. I also think that Xiaomi is just a counterfeit of Apple for only Chinese to enjoy. Frankly, I myself, is a Chinese. Yes I do live in Hong Kong. But I dislike Xiaomi because they are just thieves without creativity and inventive. Xiaomi used to be only a theme mod for Android, also known as MIUI. Gaining popularity and monetary only in China, they delivered their first phone that looked exactly like iPhones' with potentials for Chinese government installing backdoors. See Lenovo for examples. There is also reports Mi Red had suspicious internet activity that goes into servers centralized in Beijing with high amount of sensitive user data being sent. They also had produced drones that exploded in midair during a promotion stream. Fortunately no one is hit by that burning beast. They had bands that almost did nothing besides making your hand or wrist heated. And now, they want to make a forgery of Macbook. I cannot expect something well to happen. Besides 'shame', I cannot further describe Xiaomi, maybe also the entire IT ecosystem of China filled with pirated and fragile products. Sarcastically their CEO, when introducing their new, pioneer products, also goes the "Job's way". 'One last thing'. The black t-shirt and trousers. Every single bit they can rip from the Apple are exhausted. Due to the internet blockage of China, the Wall, Chinese never understand that their acts are harming the world, the intellectual properties. They only wait for their opponent to move, analyze it, make a replica for it, denying others to take action of it. This is the reason Chinese always go behind the world. This is the reason Japan can easily beat China. No it's not being passive, but someone who shamelessly ripping off the benefits others had diligently built. This is not the China I ever dreamed of. But we had to accept it, China are weak. And so she became a shut-in.
- mrmondo 10y agoGood on them, the more competition in the market the better both for the top and bottom end alternatives regardless of manufacturer or OS.
- mi_sucks 10y agoMI3 released in 2014 First real update(android update) it got was in July 2016 . also, you cannot delete your i.mi.com account you cannot delete the data once uploaded on i.mi.com ( so called MI cloud). You can keep writing them emails and they will refuse to answer. their service center is pathetic. ( not few, not in exception cases, but in all cases). forget about security updates, you do not even have encryption option in MI phones. phone->settings->security->encryption -- this option is absent from MI phones. No MI phone can encrypt. The worst part is their online fanboys on MIUI forum , and their forum rules, they actively delete the posts which show the cheating they do . There are some bloggers who ALWAYS, ALWAYS, WIN the flash sales they do on their website, The SAME bloggers always get to "experience" their new phones first. Now, the same bloggers post youtube reviews and fool the people. So, A person FIRST knowledge of MI products comes from viewing online reviews, and those online reviews are written by bloggers who are moderators in their forum. By the time the normal people realize it, they have sold a million phones already. Their marshmallow phones ( only 3 ) do not have -- doze -- back up to google servers By MI devices at your own risk. and see how pathetic and insecure is the website i.mi.com (mi cloud ) and BEWARE OF ONLINE TROLLS OF MI, they are everywhere.
- elaus 10y ago> BEWARE OF ONLINE TROLLS […], they are everywhere. Tbh a posting from a new account named "mi_sucks" raises some flags for me as well…
- checker659 10y agoOk apple
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- mi_sucks 10y agoI am pretty sure you are one of those online fanboys/shills who pop up everywhere to defend MI. Forget about security, HOW MANY PHONES OF MI can do ENCRYPTION, HOW MANY PHONES EVER DID ENCRYPTION. settings->security->encrypt == this option is absent from all phones. MI phones is not even run true android
- sohkamyung 10y agoOn my Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 I see this: Settings -> Additional Settings -> Privacy -> Encrypt Phone My About Phone: - Model: REDMI NOTE 3 - Android: 5.1.1 LMY47V - Android Security Patch Level: 2016-07-01 - MIUI version: MIUI Global 7.5 | Stable 7.5.3.0(LHOMIDE)
- snemvalts 10y agoWhat? Full encryption is available on almost all Mi phones, including my Redmi Note 3 Pro: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/4nkrcj/encryption_for_rm3_pro/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/4nkrcj/encryption_f....
- mi_sucks 10y agohttp://en.miui.com/thread-40877-1-1.html http://en.miui.com/thread-40877-1-1.html http://en.miui.com/thread-29306-1-1.html http://en.miui.com/thread-29306-1-1.html a google search on MI3 encryption will help you out and their customer care sucks when you ask them I have been using MI phoneS for more than 2 years Now
- ryanlol 10y ago>I have been using MI phoneS for more than 2 years Now But why?
- kolinko 10y agoDownvoted for the speech style. "You're one of those online fanboys...". Read up on nonviolent communication, man!
- sergiotapia 10y agoA bit expensive, considering you can get an $800 13-inch macbook air (the real deal).
- reimertz 10y agoIt seems, spec-wise that the "real deal" sucks in comparison. If you can run Hackintosh on it, I don't see why I wouldn't go with it instead of paying $2500 on Apple computer with similar specs.
- ForFreedom 10y agoI dont understand why everyone is comparing their products to the Mac/iPhone and then they say "cheap" as $xxx. You cant compare a KIA to Bugatti and say cheap as $xxx. The point is create a product people speak about and has a value
- JBReefer 10y agoBut a Kia is a great car these days. Dollar for dollar, I'd rather buy a Kia with my money than a Bugatti, just like I'm not willing to shell out for a MacBook, but might buy this laptop.
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- kyriakos 10y agoMacbooks are not Bugattis though.
- cptskippy 10y agoIf we're going to be using the car analogy, Vertu is the Bugatti of consumer electronics and Apple is more like BMW although they desperately want to be Mercedes. Regardless, KIA's reliability and repair-ability ratings trump all three of them. So I'll let your original comparison stand.
- mnkmnk 10y agoWill there be heating issues? Such a small form factor with an i5 and dedicated graphics card ought to have thermal throttling issues and with a metal body, become uncomfortable to hold.
- ungzd 10y agoMaking it thin does not make it closer to Macbook. I'm sure it even has standard bricky laptop charger and crappy display.
- hochchristoph 10y agoDear TC: The word's "knockoff" not "rival".
- teekert 10y agoTo me, Xiaomi means quality, I have a Xiaomi battery pack, it's very solid and feels high quality. So does my OnePlus3, it seems like Chinese (designed) is no longer synonymous with cheap and low quality. They are ready to take over. They are removing the usp of western (designed) products. Admittedly they do it partly via copying. What is the next frontier for western companies? Responsible design? Environmentally friendly design/manufacturing? The robotic revolution can certainly bring parts of the manufacturing back here without increasing the prices. I'm curious to see how I.E. Apple responds to this trend.
- kccqzy 10y agoInteresting. I also had a Xiaomi battery pack but after a few months of (irregular) use the outer shell started discolouring and the adhesives gradually became weaker, so much so that you can peel off the plastic at the bottom and top. Yes they are ready to take over large segments of the market but not yet the high end segment.
- kyriakos 10y agoThere is actually counterfeit xiaomi battery packs. There's a great chance you got one of those. The one I have took a lot of abuse and travel and still looks new
- ethanbond 10y agoThat still qualifies as a hit against the statement "Xiaomi means quality." Brand protection is hard, but also really important. It'll probably become more evident over the next few years why Apple has always been so vicious about it.
- kyriakos 10y agoAt the same time its proof that xiaomi as a brand is good.. i.e. its a brand worth copying.
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- blisterpeanuts 10y agoThe Techcrunch article reads more like a blog or opinion piece. For example: "...it’ll be interesting to see how many units Xiaomi ships." Also, no mention of battery life, which is the sine qua non of laptops. Unless I missed it, and I read the article twice to be sure. I'm always sorry when I click on a TC link. Here's Engadget's take, and they do mention the 9.5 hour battery: https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/27/xiaomi-mi-notebook-air-laptop-china/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/27/xiaomi-mi-notebook-air-l...
- jumasheff 10y agoHackintosh, please.
- JustSomeNobody 10y agoMacbook Air is more than just hardware. It's hardware and software working together to make the experience. I doubt a $540 machine running Windows will match it. I very much dislike Windows, but I realize that's just me. Linux on this machine would be awesome.
- andrepd 10y agoI dislike Windows but I dislike OSX even more, so software is indifferent for me, seeing as I will be installing Linux anyway. I suspect there are many people who think like me.
- baldfat 10y agoI am also have an extremely negative feelings for OSX. As a Linux and Windows user it is just frustration for me all the time. Plus I have the magic touch of making every Mac to crash while I am trying to get a contracted job done on the customers location. It is seriously so frustrating. (Mostly it is video/music production related)
- JustSomeNobody 10y agoOS X nudges past Linux for me because it is much more efficient (this is what I was alluding to in my statement about hardware and software working together). If Linux could work out some way of being just as efficient with the battery as OS X, I would put Linux on my laptop instead of keeping it only on my server.
- andrepd 10y agoI don't know of any objective benchmarks on that regard, but I do know that Linux is famously erratic in conserving power, with results often varying a lot depending on the specific hardware.
- cptskippy 10y agoThese statements seem to be at odds with one another... > It's hardware and software working together to make the experience. > Linux on this machine would be awesome.
- jebernier 10y agoYa, but it runs Windows....YUK
- izzydata 10y agoWhy does it need to be so thin? I don't really understand this fad of making every so thin that battery life suffers.
- digi_owl 10y agoNot just thin, but also curving edges etc to amplify the appearance of thinness. These two combine to leave little internal space for actual hardware.
- jclos 10y agoNot only battery life, I would really like for my laptops to not potentially start a fire because I decided to run something CPU intensive and some dust got into it.
- robotresearcher 10y agoGo back and use an old slab of a ThinkPad and you'll notice how bad the ergonomics were and how much volume it takes up in a bag. Also battery life is better than ever now. Because of the gradual change it's hard to appreciate how much better computers have become.
- jimrandomh 10y agoWhen looking at laptop specs, the first thing I look at (almost the only thing) is the screen resolution. This is yet another 1920x1080 laptop, which puts it somewhere between "undifferentiated and uninteresting" and "outright disqualified".
- Keyframe 10y agoI've been looking for a new laptop recently, but I can't seem to find a good. My primary concerns are: - not to have open it up and clean from dust. That's what all of my laptops, except Air, suffered from. They get dust inside and then get hot and loud. I move around a lot and it's inevitable. I don't want noise and I want as little heat as possible. - Multitouch Trackpad like on Macbook Air. It's wonderful! - Long battery life with moderate to high power cpu. - Great 13" monitor that you can see what's going on in direct sunlight. - As much as possible of internal fast storage. - Lots of RAM. - Great typing experience. I'm fine with chiklet on Air. It's just fine. I write a lot, more than typical programmers - treatments, instructions, screenplays on a daily basis. Currently, only Air fits the bill, but it's getting old. So, a high(er)-powered Air 13" with longer battery life and more RAM and disk space and better screen with updated CPU and graphics would be great. I haven't found one. I don't care which OS it runs. They're all the same these days.
- johnloeber 10y agoYour criteria appear to be "I want the best possible for every component." The issue here is that there are trade-offs involved: e.g. a high-powered CPU will drain your battery life. With your criteria, only the Lenovo X Carbon series comes to mind. (Maybe the Dell XPS series?)
- HaseebR7 10y agoI'm pretty sure the new MPB fits the criteria.
- Keyframe 10y agoYour criteria appear to be "I want the best possible for every component." That and that it's compact (13") and lightweight and that it makes coffee! I know, but that's what I want. As for high-powered CPU, I would be OK with some super-duper i5 mobile or something. i7 is not a must. Also, I was under the impression that CPUs, these days, do not drain battery more than low-powered one if you're not hitting the gas pedal?
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- tychuz 10y agoIt does not run macOS, it's literally oranges to apples.
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- vegasje 10y agoWhat's the recommended way for US users to get Xiaomi devices?
- dxxvi 10y agoDoes it have virus in the firmware that works in both Windows and Linux?
- dineshp2 10y agoI was hoping Xiaomi would also launch a version with Ubuntu as the default OS. An i5, 8GB DDR4 Ram, 256GB SSD, backlit keyboard and 10 hours battery backup at $750 sounds like a sweet deal. I know Ubuntu can still be installed on the Windows version, but I expect it to be a hacky path with installation issues, getting the hardware to play nice and the backlit keyboard to work, and finally maybe even battery life issues. An out of the box solution like the XPS 13 at a lower price point might work.
- wyldfire 10y agoI think the appeal of this product might end up with user demand for this feature as well. That could result in Canonical and/or Xiaomi offering fixes to support Ubuntu on Mi Notebook Air.
- jimmies 10y agoThere already is one. It is called the Dell Chromebook 13. I have posted about it here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11506203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11506203 .
- leonroy 10y agoThis quote from Jony Ive really made me feel for the guy: “When you’re doing something for the first time, you don’t know it’s going to work. You spend seven or eight years working on something, and then it’s copied. I have to be honest, the first thing I can think, all those weekends that I could have at home with my family but didn’t. I think it’s theft, and it’s lazy.” Xiaomi have done this to others. Their new air filter for example basically clones a Japanese design and sells it for a fraction of the price: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/12/09/xiaomis-air-purifierborrowing-design-balmuda-airengine/ http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/12/09/xiaomis-air-purifierbor...
- nullcipher 10y agoI don't know if he actually said that but isn't all innovation incremental? I understand he put his heart and soul into it, but there has been tons of people who have worked equally hard before him to get to where he got (Apple itself copied it's UI from Xerox). Apple has also blatantly copied and consumed many companies in the past. There is so much code copied around these days. This is all just the way it is and how we have decided to move ahead as a society. Making judgments on others is uncalled for.
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- leonroy 10y ago> I don't know if he actually said that but isn't all innovation incremental? He said exactly that: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/tech/2014/10/jony-ive-lessons-from-steve-jobs http://www.vanityfair.com/news/tech/2014/10/jony-ive-lessons... And yes innovation is incremental but this is Xiaomi not simply borrowing design cues but literally cloning a design. See for yourself - here's their take on Japanese company Balmuda's air purifier: https://www.balmuda.com/jp/airengine/ https://www.balmuda.com/jp/airengine/ Xiaomi's version: http://www.mi.com/en/air/ http://www.mi.com/en/air/
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- ptx 10y ago> boy does it look familiar to products belonging to a company that begins with the letter ‘A’ Hm? "Sony" doesn't begin with "A". The colors, the squarish shape and the keyboard (Sony used that style before Apple) look much more like a Sony Vaio than any Apple laptop.
- Ezhik 10y agoLooks really nice. Reminds me of the Surface Book (minus the tablet stuff). Can't wait for the rumored i7 model.
- alpeb 10y agoLooks awesome, but the OS... There really is a huge market gap for a third, non-tech-savvy friendly OS.
- pritambaral 10y agoAndroid?
- alpeb 10y agoYeah, hopefully their desktop story will improve with time.
- Giorgi 10y agoWay to expensive for that graphics card. Would expect better prices from Xiaomi
- mark_l_watson 10y agoI would buy one if avaliable through Microsoft's online store as a crapware free signature edition.
- orky56 10y agoGood artists copy, great artists steal.