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by zxzax 5y ago
To give another perspective, that presentation is from 7 years ago and does not reflect the current state of things. The situation has improved and currently some GNOME functionality is being moved out of GTK into a new library, so GTK can
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>This is about the needs of users and developers. I know, I'm saying that app developers and users want CSD in some form eventually. I've seen this trend everywhere. You may not want them on your system and you're entitled
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by zxzax 5y ago
I feel your pain, I wish it were cheaper to develop software, but sadly the costs to compete with Microsoft and Apple are great. GNOME and KDE and such are already giving you all the code basically for free, I don't know what else they
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by zxzax 5y ago
I'm sorry, I think I could have been more clear. Yes the ticket was closed. The place to discuss options in the new approach would be in the new ticket. Even though that particular patch was rejected as a solution, newer potential solu
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by zxzax 5y ago
If some person openly said to you that they wanted to hurt you, then I would assume bad faith. Please let someone know if that happens, in most open source projects that would probably be a code of conduct violation. I don't think peop
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by zxzax 5y ago
>How can they otherwise ignore such an obvious, massive load of complaints with such disrespectful and dismissive comments? [...] We're talking multiple or many seconds of wait and stress that this behaviour can cause, even on beefy
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by zxzax 5y ago
SSD only isn't really an option, from what I have seen, eventually app designers want CSD to reduce clutter and to give their apps a better native look. This is true on all platforms, see for example macOS Big Sur. >This is if they
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>libgtk doesn't work for all the use cases, e.g. vulkan, libdecoration doesn't look "native" The solution there would be to fix gtk to support vulkan, and to fix libdecoration so it looks better. >I consider them t
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by zxzax 5y ago
I assume that screenshot is a joke, the decorations don't look like that for me, they look small and unobtrusive. I actually prefer them to SSD because they take less space, and they are consistent with the way the mpv decorations work
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>it's been a long time I've felt such an enormous disgust at the amount of neglect and arrogance that is being displayed there. Please do not assume bad faith. Type-ahead has some confusing usability issues, such as that it onl
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by zxzax 5y ago
>They'll be taking similar stance as gnome devs and start telling users "it's not our bug", "report it to gnome devs". I'm not sure I understand where that happened, the issue you posted is closed, and
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>Why would games, or non-gnome apps care about decoration? I don't think they would which is why the low level toolkits like SDL are the ones that have to handle it. Unfortunately that's the way it is, libwayland is very barebo
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by zxzax 5y ago
>I believe GNOME doesn't want normal users, but rather users that will always do what they want them to do, aka the Apple mentality. I would not say this is true, GNOME just handles extensibility differently. If you want to help wit
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by zxzax 5y ago
> I'm a lot less sure, and the lack of clear requirements makes me even less certain. If you are interested to work on this patch, it wouldn't hurt to ask the maintainer for clarification. >as evidenced by tilix showing inte
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> The issue is that Electron and SDL will fix this 10 years later, old apps will still not work. The SSD in GNOME still works for X11 apps. For now the only path for old apps that need SSD is to continue using the X11 backend in Electron
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by zxzax 5y ago
Inclusion in wayland-protocols means that it had enough support without opposition. It doesn't mean that all the members are interested in implementing the feature. According to the members list, Weston and Mir are still important enou
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by zxzax 5y ago
Again this particular cultural problem was resolved a long time. Ubuntu and XFCE and GNOME have since all aligned on this matter. I see what you are trying to illustrate, maybe it was true 10 years ago, but it's not now. Cultures can c
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by zxzax 5y ago
It doesn't look like it, I'm sure they would be open to patches to help out there.
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I don't follow all the Wayland compositors but Enlightenment doesn't, and Weston matters here. If somebody really wants this to become standard, implementing it in Weston should be priority. Every compositor library I've look
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by zxzax 5y ago
Your first link is an issue that was posted over 10 years ago and was long resolved in other areas. It's not an illustrative example. I really wish people would stop trying to revive these ancient flamewars without acknowledging the cu
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by zxzax 5y ago
Again if you actually read the bug report, it contradicts what you're saying. This patch was rejected because it created unnecessary work for terminals outside the GNOME project. The favored solution would help all terminals using that
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by zxzax 5y ago
>Gnome is one of those projects that should be considered "free in license only". While the project is free to hack on as you wish for your own purposes, your chances of being able to influence the development of the main proje
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by zxzax 5y ago
I don't see why you are saying that has something to do with some attitude from GNOME. There are several Wayland compositors that don't implement that feature.
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I know it's fun for people to hate on GNOME but if you actually read the bug reports, the feature was not rejected. The patch was rejected in favor of a different way to implement the feature.
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Walter, please don't say these things. I get what you're trying to communicate but there is such thing as a victim. You can be doing everything right and still have harm brought to you and your loved ones by circumstances beyond y
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by zxzax 5y ago
>it was Karen Sandler who really pulled the strings I would be interested to hear a source for that because I never heard of such a thing. I heard the exact opposite, that GNOME is still open to keeping things working on BSD. The latest
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by zxzax 5y ago
>The answer to [less knowledgeable people] misinterpreting words literally isn't to [simplify] our speech. Yes, it is? For the biggest example, Have you ever done child care? Kids may not understand whatever complex metaphor you&#x2
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by zxzax 5y ago
Isn't that just proving the point? Powerful figures should absolutely be more careful when using words like "fight" out of context because a certain percentage of people may very well misinterpret that as a call to violence.
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>It combines the bad parts of an ad hominem attack with the bad parts of personal arrogance and negativity. Don't think your other teammates won't realize you've "blocked" a teammate. Some of them will react badl
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by zxzax 5y ago
Just my experience, three people is not a big enough sample size for most projects. You will get very biased opinions if you go with that. That may be ok if you have a very niche project and you only ask some people in that niche.

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