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To give another perspective, that presentation is from 7 years ago and does not reflect the current state of things. The situation has improved and currently so

by zxzax 5y ago

To give another perspective, that presentation is from 7 years ago and does not reflect the current state of things. The situation has improved and currently some GNOME functionality is being moved out of GTK into a new library, so GTK can focus on being its own library: https://aplazas.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/blog/blog/2021/03/31/introducing-libadwaita.html https://aplazas.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/blog/blog/2021/03/31/...

hitekker 5y ago
Are you affiliated with GNOME?
- zxzax 5y ago
  No, I'm just an app developer who used GTK recently and noticed that a lot of what people say about it is based on out-of-date information. My experience really wasn't that bad, progress is being made and issues are being addressed, even though it's not happening as fast as some would like. For whatever reason there is a staggering amount of misinformation in these HN threads.
  - j-james 5y ago
    Based on my personal interactions with GNOME developers and unresolved bugs, I suspect your experience is the exception, not the broad norm.
    - zxzax 5y ago
      I don't meant to say it doesn't have bugs, of course it does. Every project has bugs. As with all open source, submitting patches to fix those bugs will usually go farther than patiently waiting and hoping that another volunteer will get frustrated enough by the bug to fix it eventually. The obvious segfault bugs that affect everyone badly will tend to get fixed pretty fast, the more obscure ones that arise from weird use of widgets (and need a lot of in-depth debugging) are a harder thing to ask a volunteer to spend their time on.
  - hitekker 5y ago
    Agreed with the sibling comment. My own experience with GTK and their developers have been awful.
    - zxzax 5y ago
      I'm sorry to hear that. I'll reiterate that if someone was rude and hostile to you, that would probably be considered a code of conduct violation, and it would be appreciated if that was reported so it doesn't happen again.

by zxzax 5y ago

hitekker 5y ago

Are you affiliated with GNOME?

zxzax 5y ago
No, I'm just an app developer who used GTK recently and noticed that a lot of what people say about it is based on out-of-date information. My experience really wasn't that bad, progress is being made and issues are being addressed, even though it's not happening as fast as some would like. For whatever reason there is a staggering amount of misinformation in these HN threads.
- j-james 5y ago
  Based on my personal interactions with GNOME developers and unresolved bugs, I suspect your experience is the exception, not the broad norm.
  - zxzax 5y ago
    I don't meant to say it doesn't have bugs, of course it does. Every project has bugs. As with all open source, submitting patches to fix those bugs will usually go farther than patiently waiting and hoping that another volunteer will get frustrated enough by the bug to fix it eventually. The obvious segfault bugs that affect everyone badly will tend to get fixed pretty fast, the more obscure ones that arise from weird use of widgets (and need a lot of in-depth debugging) are a harder thing to ask a volunteer to spend their time on.
- hitekker 5y ago
  Agreed with the sibling comment. My own experience with GTK and their developers have been awful.
  - zxzax 5y ago
    I'm sorry to hear that. I'll reiterate that if someone was rude and hostile to you, that would probably be considered a code of conduct violation, and it would be appreciated if that was reported so it doesn't happen again.