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by vorg 11y ago
> Our testing Infrastructure is written in Groovy For the last 3 months, Groovy has been officially known as "Apache Groovy".
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by vorg 11y ago
For the last 3 months, Groovy has been officially known as "Apache Groovy".
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by vorg 11y ago
Besides confusing advertising and marketing, this marketing article contains a few other inaccuracies. E.g. it says: "In China alone, points out Luis, there are 400 million people learning English who require some form of certification
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by vorg 11y ago
> It opens the door to writing loads of Groovy code and making your build a nightmare, but there's a simple way to avoid that - just don't do it The parent commenter said "I don't need my build tool to be a turing com
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by vorg 11y ago
You do know Gradle uses Groovy as the syntax for its build files, right? The people behind Groovy had a problem a year ago where they were retrenched from their jobs working on Groovy, and haven't found any businesses since then who&#x
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by vorg 11y ago
> I was hoping the JVM community would coalesce around one post-java language and I was hoping it was Scala. But now add Kotlin to the mix of Groovy and Clojure, and the future gets murkier Those languages you mention each have vastly di
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by vorg 11y ago
When a Chinese, Japanese, and Korean talk to each other in English, they often can't understand an American who joins in the conversation. Perhaps Basic English , without nativisms like "stick around".
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by vorg 11y ago
> conjugation and gender are just as complicated Perhaps introducing and pushing a gender-neutral and conjugation-simplified variant of Spanish would've been the way to make it more successful than Esperanto. Los Vegos anyone?
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by vorg 11y ago
> I really don't have to worry if I write Groovy in a pre Java 5 (ie without generics) Groovy has many incompatible changes between versions, esp from 1.8 to 2.0 but also 1.7 to 1.8, 1.6 to 1.7, etc. Many sites provide Groovy 1.8 as
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by vorg 11y ago
> adopt one of Kotlin, Groovy (w/ @CompileStatic) or Scala Scala's the only one of these three languages with any adoption right now. Groovy is virtually only used in its original dynamic mode from 2003 for things like scriptin
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by vorg 11y ago
> Groovy which isn't a mainstream language Originally on Gradle.org's website, they wrote they'd encourage anyone who wanted to enable Gradle to allow another scripting language for writing build files, and that they'
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by vorg 11y ago
There's a "spec" for Groovy at its website groovy-lang.org but that site's owned by a private individual so it could be pushing it to call it a real spec.
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by vorg 11y ago
One example is Kotlin was designed to be statically typed from the ground up, whereas Groovy's static typing was added 9 yrs later (mid-2012) as an afterthought.
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by vorg 11y ago
> ... was introduced in Groovy, so a lot of people are familiar with it You're assuming here that a lot of people have used Groovy. People generally don't even use "it" in Gradle, the most common access people have to
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by vorg 11y ago
> I chose to compile Earl Grey to JavaScript Some programming languages generate code much deeper down the abstraction stack, e.g. Haskell generating machine code, whereas others generate code to a much shallower depth, e.g. most languag
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by vorg 11y ago
> the surveillance targeting Poitras had transformed her into a nervous wreck. [...] she describes feeling constantly watched, entirely robbed of privacy. “I haven’t written in over a year for fear these words are not private,” [...] She
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by vorg 11y ago
Yep. Scala and Clojure brought life back to the JVM, being JVM-friendly dialects of Haskell and Lisp respectively. If it weren't for them, the JVM would already be sinking under the oppressive weight of Java and Groovy.
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by vorg 11y ago
2. Groovy's stack traces are the joke of the JVM community. It's not easy to debug at all. 5. Grails adoption is tumbling. Not many places are starting new projects in Grails, or even upgrading from 2.x to 3.
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by vorg 11y ago
Perhaps they were using some non-Sun/Oracle programming software besides Java, something like Groovy.
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by vorg 11y ago
> Google, which is perhaps the most famous example of the "We have 4 official languages, and you're not introducing a new one" policy I believe those 4 languages were Java, C++, Javascript, and Python. Nowadays they also u
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by vorg 11y ago
The TIOBE rankings aren't to be trusted. Just click on Groovy to see its history graph - it went from #82 to #17 in a mere 12 months. The last time Groovy made the top 20, it hit #18 in Oct 2013, but 3 months later (Jan 2014), had drop
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by vorg 11y ago
> Nor should we think that extra structure for complex sounds are needed for a language or comprehensibility A language which evolved from an earlier language, e.g. Italian, or is based on another language, e.g. Silbo Gomero, doesn'
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by vorg 11y ago
> Groovy code looks identical to native Java in most respects Maybe your definition of "most respects" doesn't include the Gradle DSL or Java 8 lambdas. Nowadays I use Clojure for those quick'n'dirties testing Ja
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by vorg 11y ago
> I can't comment on it but people seem to like it Not sure how many Grails 2.x systems out there have been upgraded to Grails 3.x, or how many new Grails systems have been started in version 3.x. I don't think it's many t
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by vorg 11y ago
> Groovy, in particular, is 100% bidirectionally compatible with Java and has close enough syntax that a developer team well versed in Java will pick it up quickly. Groovy's only close to the Java 1.7 syntax. Java 1.8 uses the ->
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by vorg 11y ago
> Looking at the Tiobe list for concreteness [...] At 17 (Groovy) No need to consider whether Groovy follows the trend or not. Tiobe gives a history of all Top 20 languages as a graph, just click on the language name in the top 20 chart.
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by vorg 11y ago
> we can invite Groovy to the party Do you mean Apache Groovy? Since the former "Codehaus Groovy" joined the Apache Software Foundation, it's been an Apache requirement that it be referred to as "Apache Groovy" a
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by vorg 11y ago
Most names of programming languages are based on nouns (e.g. Ruby, Python, Lisp, Java) or noun-like (C, C#, PHP), whereas very few are based on adjectives (only know of Basic and Groovy) or verbs (only know of Go).
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by vorg 11y ago
You don't need a Rails clone just so you can work on the JVM -- you could use JRuby on Rails.
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by vorg 11y ago
> Glad to see Groovy rising If Groovy's rise was slow but steady, it would be good. But this latest rise is more a case of extreme volatility for Groovy in the TIOBE rankings. It went from #82 to #17 in a mere 12 months. The last ti

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