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by tovej 7mo ago
You say the threshold is not entirely subjective, but then you describe a subjective (you just know it) and ambiguous (transitioning back toward engineering) threshold. Sure seems to me like it's subjective. Also, I've nedlver eve
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by tovej 7mo ago
I like those. Or maybe vibe slop vs. vibe-checked code.
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by tovej 7mo ago
You're repeating the broader definition, great. But your post leaves me with the same question about degrees. You say there's two cases: no review and full review, "deep sense of the code", and that one is vibe coding an
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by tovej 7mo ago
I think it's perfectly serviceable. Prompting software into existance is a vibes-based activity, and it's completely at odds with engineering. Which is why it's good that there's a term that conveys this.
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by tovej 7mo ago
People use two definitions. There's this definition of LLM generation + "no thorough review or testing" And there's the more normative one: just LLM generation.[1][2][3] "Not even looking at it" is very difficu
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by tovej 7mo ago
What. Are you saying maintainable code is specifically related to startups? I can accept companies as an answer (although there are other places to cut your teeth), but startups is a weird carveout.
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by tovej 7mo ago
This is still not an argument. You are still just stating opinions without any arguments. If you think the tweet is crystal clear evidence of your point, please show why. If you think my interpretation is strange (even though I've alre
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by tovej 7mo ago
You say no, but then you agree that they think it's demeaning. Are you saying no just to say no, because you dislike how I'm framing this? I don't think you've shown that the narrow definition is the original one. That&#
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by tovej 7mo ago
You're saying what I'm saying. They feel self conscious about the term "vibe coding". And to be clear, nobody accused the people who lashed out here. They reacted to general statements that people are vibe coding. I also
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by tovej 7mo ago
Because I believe the broad definition is more widely used, I also don't think the narrow term is useful or meaningful, and I think it's being used purely by vibe coding practitioners who feel that the term has negative connotatio
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by tovej 7mo ago
Here's Merriam Webster with the same definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vibe%20coding That tweet coins the term, we agree there. The activity it describes is using natural language to generate
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by tovej 7mo ago
HRANA says thousands civilians dead. At least ~250 children. They are a reliable Iranian opposition source. https://www.en-hrana.org/day-35-of-u-s-and-israeli-attacks-o...
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by tovej 7mo ago
I believe he is using this World Bank dataset: https://datacatalog.worldbank.org/search/dataset/0064304/100...
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by tovej 7mo ago
The actual problem with technocracy is that you create a formalized hierarchy of leaders and rabble based on some credential granting authority that the technocrats control. That's a recipe for disaster. The technocrats define who can
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by tovej 7mo ago
Did you read tfa? The key word here is populism. Finding scapegoats (immigrants, woke feminists, lazy unemployed people) to explain away societal ills caused by inequality. Of course tech billionaires prefer blaming the scapegoats to blamin
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by tovej 7mo ago
Expected to read about past and current connections between technocracy and fascism. Was not disappointed. Musk, Altman, Thiel, Ellison, Zuckerberg, Page, and the like are trying to implement technocracy. And that's something we should
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by tovej 7mo ago
So is this a web app with a go backend? I don't know where you got the "just CRUD" quote from. I never mentioned CRUD. But this sure sounds like it would be CRUD with some additional models in the backend. What makes it not j
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by tovej 7mo ago
The size of the project is not what matters. It's the systems it includes and how complex they are. Actually, that raises a question: are the more complex systems in this collection of projects vibecoded or programmed by a human? Which
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by tovej 7mo ago
No, that is literally vibecoding. Reviewing vibecoded source is just an extra step. It's like saying "I'm not power toolgardening, I use a pair of gardening scissors afterwards." You still did power tool gardening. As ad
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by tovej 7mo ago
I have not met any engineer who is actually embracing LLMs. I have met managers and interns who are.
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by tovej 7mo ago
If you use an LLM to generate source code you are vibecoding. You specify the problem in natural language (the vibes) and the LLM spits out source (the code). Whether you review it or not, that is vibecoding. You did not go through the rigo
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by tovej 7mo ago
I'm curious, where are you using the tools? What programming language? what domain? Are you willing to share the projects you're working on?
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by tovej 7mo ago
I see. I would not consider these to be serious projects. I'm sure they give people joy, and contain some decent problem solving, but they are both small extensions to existing software, and are not really solving interesting new probl
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by tovej 7mo ago
The example I'm thinking of did not. It was just the dumbest way to execute an idea we knew was easy to execute (scanning a parameter space).
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by tovej 7mo ago
That makes me curious, would you like to list them?
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by tovej 7mo ago
The tool being useful sometimes does not support the statement that we are "past the point" of not using LLMs.
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by tovej 7mo ago
I have yet to run into any serious project in the wild that is using LLMs for development. I have seen vibecoded intern prototypes that took half a day to vet and dismiss because they were completely useless. I'm sure your experience i
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by tovej 7mo ago
A bit worse? The sanctions directly brought about this. Scott Bessent admitted -- unprompted -- that the purpose of the sanctions was to destroy the Iranian economy. I'm not saying the regime is good. It's not. It's terrible.
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by tovej 7mo ago
He is not proposing to do away with the median income measure (or other quantile measures), but to add to them. The median income is not a very good measure at all, you would need more quantiles to capture the distribution. This metric is m
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by tovej 7mo ago
I'm not pitching any metric. I'm describing the metric being discussed. The average is certainly not worthless. The average gives the expectation, which is more meaningful than the median, which is just the arbitrary line at the 5

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