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4y ago
That’s why I asked meaningful in what way. Meaningful to me is something that improves quality of life for majority of people like vaccines, cure for terminal decease, better public transport etc. Making a $1000 phone sadly does not fall in
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> Apple employees..get to do some really meaningful and impactful work. Meaningful and impactful in what way? They make phones, that’s it. They are not solving some big world issues. World won’t end if we don’t get phones with bigger scr
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> Although I maintain there are going to be a lot more than 100 children illegally employed as cleaners in the US The point is the minors working at a meat packing company are victims, it’s ridiculous to blame them regardless of whether
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I mean it’s clearly written here, there is no ambiguity. “Packers Sanitation Services’ systems flagged some young workers as minors” The real question is why so much trust in a company which has clear motive to ignore these red flags for th
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The agency had enough information to prosecute and fine the company. I would rather trust a govt agency than a for profit company whose only motivation is earn profit by any means necessary.
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The age of the kids was in their system. So the children did not lie about their age. It’s weird to defend the company that knowingly illegally employs kids in hazardous job and instead doubt the govt agency that brings this problem to ligh
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This story is not about fake identity. Company knew they were minors and ignored it. Excerpt from story: “Our investigation found Packers Sanitation Services’ systems flagged some young workers as minors, but the company ignored the flags.”
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> Presumably the children in question lied about their age when they signed up. That’s not true though. The company knew exactly what they were doing and still they went ahead and doubled down on it. Excerpt from article: “Our investigat
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> There are millions of undocumented workers in the US using fake identities to get jobs. How is this related to the story? The story is about companies using children as workers in hazardous job. It’s illegal regardless of their documen
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4y ago
Meanwhile Iowa proposes bill to do exactly this. https://www.weareiowa.com/amp/article/money/business/sf-167-...
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4y ago
“the department assessed PSSI $15,138 for each minor-aged employee(102)”
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4y ago
The title of the referenced article itself should be good enough "Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts and night shifts for women at iPhone production in India". The original poster omitted the words "and night
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It’s always race to the bottom for workers when multiple states are fighting for iPhone factory. They drop the labor protections, drop minimum wages($2-3 per day), increase working hours. It’s just a win for Apple and nobody else(maybe poli
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The HN headline is incorrect. It’s not “12 hour shift for women”. It’s “12 hour shifts AND night shifts for women”. Night shift were not allowed earlier most likely because of safety reasons considering India’s not so great women safety rec
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Lawyers definitely cost companies less than paying victims, that's why they have them in first place. You can refer to DuPont lawsuits for this. As regards to the accurate number I don't have any, but it should definitely not be t
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4y ago
The penalty definitely needs to be steeper. Companies this big see $1.5 million penalty as just “business costs”. It doesn’t act as a deterrent. I think it should be steep enough for GoodRx and other companies to think 10 times before doing
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4y ago
FTC was created to protect consumers though "strong and effective law enforcement"(their mission statement). This FTC action is not "strong" enough, it's just a slap on the wrist. > If you also give them the abi
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I want FTC to put fear of god in bad actors like GoodRx. $1.5 million is pocket change for a company with $765 million annual revenue. They've spent $400k just on lobbying. This isn't gonna change anything.
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This is awesome. I hope people realize this came out of public funding and not made by a corp. Although eventually some corp will make a minor tweak to this and copyright the hell out of it. Really excited to see this in a car soon!
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Wow, this is eerily similar to what happened in India during second wave of COVID. Tweets complaining about oxygen shortage or handling of Covid in general were restricted in India. It’s just weird why some governments do that. Playing down
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I will rather trust the democratically elected union leaders who are also my co-workers than the management. I don't really know what else to say at this point. It's just weird taking side of the management.
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>> If companies hear loud and clear from both their employees and from people they want to hire, they will do it if they want to compete. Yes definitely they will.."today". Companies don't need to do anything special if
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Again, which entity forces the employer to write these terms in the offer letter in the first place? Govt or courts can't. If you as the person interviewing asks for these terms, employer can just say no and move on to next person in q
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Who will enforce that? The policies are made by companies themselves and they can change them whenever/however they want with no employee welfare in mind. We as individual employees don't have any power influencing or enforcing th
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>>But is that the end goal? for the union to have power? sometimes it does seem like that is in fact the goal. The end goal is to balance the power dynamic between capital owners and the labor. As of today especially in US, the labor
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Organizations are nothing without labor. The 500k salaries are a but small percent of revenue the labor is generating. These companies are sitting on the largest ungodly amount of cash piles ever seen in history of mankind and that should b
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This is the kind of thinking that prevents labor from organizing and having no power. You always look at the person being paid less than you or working in "relatively" worse conditions and think oh at least I'm not doing that
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I hope this teaches everyone a lesson that all these glorified CEOs can be as dumb as rocks. Pichai, Zuckerberg, Musk, Nadella have proven this in last few months. We need to stop glorifying these people as demigods. Their only job is to ex
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CEOs have an army of people at their disposal to do the said “PR talent” stuff. They absolutely do not deserve what they get and they are not tech gods as media paints them to be. I’m sick of media defending CEOs instead common workers.
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