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The HN headline is incorrect. It’s not “12 hour shift for women”. It’s “12 hour shifts AND night shifts for women”. Night shift were not allowed earlier most li

The HN headline is incorrect. It’s not “12 hour shift for women”. It’s “12 hour shifts AND night shifts for women”. Night shift were not allowed earlier most likely because of safety reasons considering India’s not so great women safety record. Not saying it’s justified but that was the reason most likely.

lostlogin 4y ago
That’s just made it even darker. Holy crap.
- 29083011397778 4y ago
  At the headline itself: only literally. For example, I (and many others in Canada) work graveyard. I only have to work 4 days a week (which is fantastic), and it's apparently echoed in this legislation as it "...limits the maximum workweek to 48 hours". Graveyard can limit ones health, but I think it gets a bad rap, and could wax poetic about other reasons I prefer it. Sent during day two of my long weekend :)
dang 4y ago
I believe you but I don't fully understand this. Can anyone suggest an accurate, neutral title, preferably using a representative phrase* from the article? If so, we can edit it. * https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=representative%20article%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- throw93 4y ago
  The title of the referenced article itself should be good enough "Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts and night shifts for women at iPhone production in India". The original poster omitted the words "and night shifts" for some reason.
  - thunderbong 4y ago
    OP here. Tried to add that but HN has a limit to the length of the title and couldn't fit it.
  - dang 4y ago
    HN has an 80 char limit, which made that impossible (as thunderbong said).
vivegi 4y ago
Labor regulations in India are at state-level. Minimum wages, max hours per day, max hours per week/period, duration of breaks, spacing of breaks if overtime is involved, number of consecutive days of work (eg: 7th day must be off, if for some reason the worker must be scheduled for the 7th day, then policies for dayoffs/compensatory offs required), overtime pay rules, hours of operation and what is considered night shift, supervisory requirements (eg: need a night shift woman manager if utilizing women in night shifts), transportation and security requirements and the list goes on. At some level, the states do compete on setting labor rules policies to appear business-friendly. The article mentions three southern states where Apple's plants are operating. You can be sure that the rules vary in slightly different ways between the states. Again, the statutory rules are governed by different laws -- eg: Shops and Establishments Act vs. Factories Act. Historically, they have been different. For eg: A software company or contact center might be governed by the former while a manufacturing plant would be governed by the latter.

lostlogin 4y ago

That’s just made it even darker. Holy crap.

29083011397778 4y ago
At the headline itself: only literally. For example, I (and many others in Canada) work graveyard. I only have to work 4 days a week (which is fantastic), and it's apparently echoed in this legislation as it "...limits the maximum workweek to 48 hours". Graveyard can limit ones health, but I think it gets a bad rap, and could wax poetic about other reasons I prefer it. Sent during day two of my long weekend :)

dang 4y ago

I believe you but I don't fully understand this. Can anyone suggest an accurate, neutral title, preferably using a representative phrase* from the article? If so, we can edit it. * https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=representative%20article%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

throw93 4y ago
The title of the referenced article itself should be good enough "Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts and night shifts for women at iPhone production in India". The original poster omitted the words "and night shifts" for some reason.
- thunderbong 4y ago
  OP here. Tried to add that but HN has a limit to the length of the title and couldn't fit it.
- dang 4y ago
  HN has an 80 char limit, which made that impossible (as thunderbong said).

vivegi 4y ago

Labor regulations in India are at state-level. Minimum wages, max hours per day, max hours per week/period, duration of breaks, spacing of breaks if overtime is involved, number of consecutive days of work (eg: 7th day must be off, if for some reason the worker must be scheduled for the 7th day, then policies for dayoffs/compensatory offs required), overtime pay rules, hours of operation and what is considered night shift, supervisory requirements (eg: need a night shift woman manager if utilizing women in night shifts), transportation and security requirements and the list goes on. At some level, the states do compete on setting labor rules policies to appear business-friendly. The article mentions three southern states where Apple's plants are operating. You can be sure that the rules vary in slightly different ways between the states. Again, the statutory rules are governed by different laws -- eg: Shops and Establishments Act vs. Factories Act. Historically, they have been different. For eg: A software company or contact center might be governed by the former while a manufacturing plant would be governed by the latter.