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by tessr 14y ago
You might be surprised.
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Hey HN: Blogs are projects, too(tessrinearson.com)
18 points by tessr 14y ago|0 comments
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by tessr 15y ago
As I've said before, in many places on this thread, this was less me sharing my feelings and more of a synthesis of a variety of ideas shared by a group of computer science students, male and female, at the University of Pennsylvania. (We d
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by tessr 15y ago
I loved it, too (see: https://twitter.com/#!/temiri/status/117771875618263040 ) and I wish it hadn't shifted the way it has. But it has.
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by tessr 15y ago
I'd guess that close to 100% of women in tech are offended by sexism. There is a group--almost certainly a subset--which is offended by brogramming . They have said so. Now, you can try to go convince them otherwise, but I strongly recomme
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by tessr 15y ago
Yes, earlier today threads on the Geeklist situation were closed, or so I heard... Well, I'm glad I'm still around.
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by tessr 15y ago
You're right, that hadn't occurred to me. I'm sorry--if I'd been a bit more thoughtful I wouldn't have reacted like that. I was, in part, trying to be appreciative of a comment that was clearly thoughtful. Penn sometimes jokingly refer to o
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by tessr 15y ago
Nice point. I, too, think that CS stands to benefit from more diversity, of all kinds. I find it interesting that you assumed that by "some women" I meant "me." These are not actually my views, exactly, on brogramming. If I were the only wo
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by tessr 15y ago
LOL @ Phi Delta Toolbag. So, here's the thing. I touched on this (but now I'm wishing I'd emphasized it more). Brogramming is moving away from satire. There are actually people who want to be brogrammers, just like there are actually people
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by tessr 15y ago
You know, I think I understand you better after rereading this a few times. Do you have any suggestions on how to help people (men) understand these issues? (That IS what the forum was supposed to be. Not a punishment.)
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by tessr 15y ago
well I upvoted you... I'm beginning to think that HN is getting sick and tired of having to think about women in tech. What a burden!
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by tessr 15y ago
That's a good idea. Will look into it, see if I can start something spontaneously... (; But no--I really wish there were, and I think there will be plenty eventually. In the meantime? I think it's worth writing down the ways that college st
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by tessr 15y ago
This actually is less "Tess writes about brogramming" and more "CS students (of ALL genders) got together and talked about it." So maybe you're just getting old and out of touch?
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by tessr 15y ago
So I don't actually find brogramming particularly offensive. A little exclusive? Yeah. Inappropriate as a recruiting tool? Definitely. But there are a large number of women who DO feel that it's offensive. And I cede to them. (Which is what
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by tessr 15y ago
One of the points that I make in my post is that it's not up to YOU (or even your girlfriend) to decide what offends ME (or any other woman in CS). If you take nothing else away, please understand that. With regards to "brogramming," I pers
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by tessr 15y ago
Well said. Thank you.
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by tessr 15y ago
I guess I don't understand, then, how society shifts. Some people who are racist/sexist/whateverist come around, but more often it seems to me that younger people grow up in a world with different paradigms. There has to be a huge number of
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by tessr 15y ago
I don't. I didn't elaborate much on how this got started, but this began when the CS group at my school (I'm on the board) considered printing shirts with "Brogrammer" on them. For all the CS students. Do you understand, then, why exclusivi
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by tessr 15y ago
See, this is the thing. Startups are now using "brogramming" as a recruiting buzzword (including one I interviewed with--though I dropped out partway through the process because I accepted an offer elsewhere).
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by tessr 15y ago
I think there's something to be said for faking it until you make it, in this case. IF men in tech learn to "hide" their sexist thoughts, this will help women in tech feel more comfortable and will thus encourage more of them. And then they
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by tessr 15y ago
Yes! (And what about men who aren't interested in women, too?)
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by tessr 15y ago
I agree 100%. It's a fantastic piece of satire. Now that people are going around boasting about how they go to parties with naked women? It's not so cool. When you take into account that the Sqoot API Jam was very brogrammer-like, too (alth
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Notes from UPenn's Forum on Brogramming and Sexism in Computer Science(tessrinearson.com)
82 points by tessr 15y ago|92 comments
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by tessr 15y ago
Oh yes, the marginalization of women in tech is definitely "internet drama that doesn't matter."
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by tessr 15y ago
TechCrunch? Backstabbing? Sorry, what?
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by tessr 15y ago
This is really cool! Keep on fighting!
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by tessr 15y ago
Yo! Wow! Can you tweet at us @_grassroutes? Would love to be in touch!
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by tessr 15y ago
If you're running any browser other than Internet Explorer there's a zip code indication which is obvious.
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by tessr 15y ago
The keypad is live now.
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by tessr 15y ago
We have a script! Just call and it pops up!

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